Hi, I bought a mate 10 pro three days ago, but when I connect my device with Bluetooth (sbc codec) the quality is very poor and distorted.
I tried the same connection with same audio device and same audio file but with other phones (s8 plus, s7, A5 2016) and the quality was much better.
I also tried with a p10 lite and the quality was the same of mate 10 pro, so I think that the problem is in emui software.
Maybe there is a problem whit the sbc conversion because with ldac codec there is no problem.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/mate-10-bluetooth-audio-unbearable-t3751932
Tl;Dr SBC codec causes distortion, AAC is broken, Huawei said they were aware of that, but I've my doubts .... Hoping for a software update that will bring things back to normal.
Any updates?? I have mate 10 pro, with same problem... SBC much noise... Acc totally broken. Beats X my earphones
q2DarkLord said:
Any updates?? I have mate 10 pro, with same problem... SBC much noise... Acc totally broken. Beats X my earphones
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EMUI 8 doesn't support AAC, SBC seems to be fixed on the latest firmwares for the C432.
Long story short if looking to buy new Bluetooth headphones, look forward for aptx or LDAC support.
B141 fixes Bluetooth issues.
I had problems before and so far, using the Mate 10 Pro with the Jaybird X3 for about 10 days on B141, I had no more issues.
Before that, I had the audio switch to loudspeaker all the time.
Have the same poor quality here with my jbl Xtreme. Rocking on bla-l29133c605 here...
I have just attempted to pair my Mate 10 Pro with Sony WI-1000X, and guess what — it won't connect via anything but SBC, no matter in what order I turn their Bluetooth signal on and how many times I try to select LDAC in the Android settings.
Curious if this update fixes BT.
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Just got a mate 10 Pro to compare to my u11+ and found that every dongle used with the Mate 10 Pro sounds so quiet. The U11+ is so much louder but even the OP3T and S8 seem louder. Has anyone else found this to be the case? I've used the stock dongle, Google's and Razerphone and they are LOUD on S8 and U11+ but extremely quiet on Mate 10 Pro
Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
amonrei said:
Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Same here.
Sound could be better honestly.
With dongle or with Bluetooth headset, sound is just ok...
Audio capabilities of this phone are a big disappointment in my opinion. If someone can help to make things better please let us know.
Same issue. Mate and 10 lite
No issue whatsoever. I bought the fabulous sony-wh-1000xm2 and live is seriously good. Streaming high res flacs over 990 kbs LDAC
With Mate 10, even with cheap Philips in-ear headset (Philips-SHE3595BK) sound is very clear and loud.
I can't even imagine with a good quality headset.
Using some mdr-1a and the USB c headphones from htc bolt/10 Evo. Both sound very very good, clear and Loud.
I have rooted my phone and can try to find out if there is a way to boost audio via USB c headphones / the adapter
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Sound is good but imo, not enough high with headsets
Yes, the max output level is quite low for the dongle. Over BT it's the same as other sources in output level since that's not set by the phone.
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
john.6 said:
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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Asia model here. Again: it's only playback through the dongle, not Bluetooth.
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Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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I think so.
It was always like that with all devices I had before.
Need root to increase level sadly
@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
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With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
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I did the audio tweak now, and it is much louder with original dongle and audio is good too
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On my Mate 10 non pro bt audio is not as loud as my mate 9 but wired is good.
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@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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oh crazy, then I gonna order it, if it is available in germany
Hi all,
I searched through a lot of forums and video reviews but couldn't see anyone doing a clear review of the quality of sound from the headphone jack.
I'm considering getting the F1 to replace my Axon 7 so wondering if the sound quality will be much worse?
If you can compare it with Axon 7 it would be great.
I knew about the GSMarena test of audio quality but that may not be the same in real life. Also it seems that the phone didn't utilise the Snapdragon 845 chip's audio capability which should be better than older phones.
Thanks
Anyone?
I don't know why people ask this question on every phone's page? IF there is no dedicated hardware used for audio it will should sound same as all SD SOCs. You can try all kinds of fancy software optimisations and equalizers it doesn't matter as long as the audio hardware is the same.
For answering your question in particular, IIRC Axon 7 has dedicated AKM 4490en for processing audio signal which is top notch. So NO Poco or any other phone with SD SOC audio is not even come close in audio quality for that matter. And since we are there take my advice and don't sell that phone(AXON 7). For it's audio capabilities you can take out the sim and can use it as a Android DAP for as long as it can serve you. A simple android DAP sells for quite a bit. I was myself very interested in this phone for audio but since it was not available in my country I went for LG V20 which I sold 2 weeks back.
I haven't had the pleasure to try the Axon 7 before, but I have used the HTC 10. The amp on this thing is weak,on my IEMs I had to crank it up to around 60-70% to get to my usual volume. Compared to a HTC U11 dongle (with DAC in it) that I have around, the dongle simply sounds better.
With all of that said, the fact that the headphone jack is there is still very much appreciated.
The headphone lacks depth and bass though it can improved through through Mi Sound Enhancer but still won't be somewhere near phones with built-in DAC.
We can hope for upcoming Dolby support soon.
I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied here.
I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
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I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
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What about the volume? Is it high enough?
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I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
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Duude, we have the same IEM, KZ ZS6. Poco does create a static noise in a specific situation (can only be heard when nothing is playing):
1. Enable tap to wake.
2. Don't play any audio with Poco.
3. Connect your IEM.
4. Lock the phone or just manually turn-off the display.
5. Rest your whole hand on the LCD, you'll hear a static noise and mine was prominent on the left channel. I noticed that the static noise is stronger when the LCD is turned-off.
How did I find it?
Since fingerprint cannot be disabled, I always place my Poco in my pocket with the LCD facing my leg and I always hear static noise every sone transition.
I disabled double tap to wake due to this.
Weird interaction. lol.
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What about the volume? Is it high enough?
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Yes, on my Beyerdynamic COP I need set volume to 40-50% for comfortable listening (Spotify). I think with all IEMs or over ear headphone to 64 ohm you will not have problem.
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Duude, we have the same IEM, KZ Zs6.
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Funny. On poco I don't have problem with kz zs6, but on axon 7 it was really bad when I heard static noise from WiFi... I think that Kz zs6 are very sensitive headphones
I recently updated the global version to Android 9 and noticed that I distorted the audio with headphones, perform a factory reset and continued, go to the latest beta and follow the distortion, why is it? will it be software, hardware or is it the audio adapter that comes from the factory? I still do not try Bluetooth headphones
I do not have any problem after update to Pie sound was even improved. I was very surprised with the audio quality of the mi 8 lite. I normally use an external DAC and lately sometimes use it direct with Samsung Level phones... And Sound is excellent. You should try with other phones otherwise might be hw problem.
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I have the same problem on my mi 8 lite
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
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Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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I have noticed a number of issues with Bluetooth audio on the S23 Ultra. When using AAC codec there is an intermittent delay between the two channels (if you have bassy headphones, you'll hear the bass doubles up). The distortion is gone when using other codecs including SBC, LDAC or Samsung Seamless Codec, althoughI still run into occasional crackling in busy environments or when multitasking. While AAC might not be the best-sounding codec I never noticed this problem on my Windows 11 laptop or my Note 9. I could just resort to using the higher quality codecs but LDAC is quite unstable in congested areas like my morning commute, and Soundcore products disable multipoint when using LDAC.
I've tested this on various earbuds and headphones including Samsung Galaxy Buds 2 Pro, Sony Linkbuds S, Soundcore Space A40 and Soundcore Space Q45, all have the same problem with AAC codec. I've tried clearing the Bluetooth cache and cache partition which didn't help at all.
I also notice that quality of the sound is poor on 23ultra. I have buds pro that s used on my 10+ before 23u. After 3 weeks i still can't find proper EQ to balance the highs and mids... Whenever i touch those music start to be dull and lost dynamic. But without it mids and highs are like from very old mp3 compression. I start to believe that Samsung go cheap on amplifier on 23u. I can't enjoy the music right now. I tried AAC and SBS but same result. Also dolby atmos working wierd. When on auto i can't here any diff in movies and music. When on movies also music goes up, on music is going flat... Completely strange behave. I never have issue like that on 10+, s6edge or S5... I'm lost right now...
Using Soundcore Liberty 3 Pro I didn't notice any of the above. I did disable Dolby atmos (don't care for heavily processed music) and use the EQ that comes with a Soundcore app, not the built in.
Using wired headphones with a pretty crappy adapter ( I doubt the 32bit DAC claim ) I also got same sound as with the old S21Ultra....
Either my ears are getting old, or there isn't a noticeable difference between my 2 phones.
PS. I didn't try LDAC yet, my comments are based on using AAC.
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Using Soundcore Liberty 3 Pro I didn't notice any of the above. I did disable Dolby atmos (don't care for heavily processed music) and use the EQ that comes with a Soundcore app, not the built in.
Using wired headphones with a pretty crappy adapter ( I doubt the 32bit DAC claim ) I also got same sound as with the old S21Ultra....
Either my ears are getting old, or there isn't a noticeable difference between my 2 phones.
PS. I didn't try LDAC yet, my comments are based on using AAC.
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I've tested Liberty 3 Pro and the issue I have is fairly noticeable with it, mainly due to the deep bass. It's less noticeable on the Soundcore Space A40. For some reason it seems to be doing this less often with the Linkbud S with AAC.
Test track - Grace by ADOY - there's a bit of crackling throughout the song which is normal, but the main issue is the drum hits like there are two.
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I've tested Liberty 3 Pro and the issue I have is fairly noticeable with it, mainly due to the deep bass. It's less noticeable on the Soundcore Space A40. For some reason it seems to be doing this less often with the Linkbud S with AAC.
Test track - Grace by ADOY - there's a bit of crackling throughout the song which is normal, but the main issue is the drum hits like there are two.
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Weird, I'll pay more attention and test when I get a chance.
I'm using soundcore liberty air 2 pro in ldac mode, they sound pretty good but when I go to developer settings and select ldac (it's in aac when I open device settings even tho the air 2 pros are in ldac mode) if I return to dev settings/bluetooth audio codec it's back in aac. And if ldac is selected and I tap on bluetooth audio codec when it opens aac is selected even tho it showed ldac as selected before I opened this setting. So I'm not actually sure what codec it's using.
Edit: Just had "ldac" show up in bt settings it wasn't showing before, this has sorted it . . . I think