New Honor flagship camera will support Multi-Scene Detection - Honor View 10 Guides, News, & Discussion

In the course of daily FunkyHuawei business, we have come across some interesting documents containing information regarding the camera capabilities of the upcoming Honor flagship device, which we think will probably be called the Honor 10. It seems this is the killer feature of the upcoming phone, so we'll share it.
Without redistributing the actual documents, allow us to paraphrase.
Based on what we've discovered, Honor will be introducing semantic image segmentation mode. Similarly to the Mate 10 series, it can detect scenes like pets, snow, beach, and so on, and apply filters for each situation, but with the new camera tech, it can detect multiple scenes within the same image and apply precise multiple filters simultaneously.
The new technology can pinpoint the outlines of objects like the sky, plans, humans, water, etc., in an image, identifying their locations, and apply the appropriate filters.
As opposed to server-side deployments like DeepLab-v3+, this is all done on-device with Honor's solution, which includes the semantic image segmentation algorithm alongside the chipset acceleration platform, the NPU in the Kirin 970. This lets the upcoming Honor phone process semantic image segmentation faster and more efficiently that Google's Deeplab, because the NPU accelerates CNNs for the process of object and scene recognition and 'applies perfect real-time parameters on every segment to generate the most realistic photography.'
Attached are some pictures to show what I'm talking about. More info/pictures coming as I figure it out.

Will it be a device specific feature or a software roll out for other devices incuding or specifically honor V10?

Is it a software that can be installed on all Honor devices?

harshvns111 said:
Will it be a device specific feature or a software roll out for other devices incuding or specifically honor V10?
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pasasa said:
Is it a software that can be installed on all Honor devices?
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Sorry, I have no idea. Let's hope it rolls out to other devices, but probably can't be too optimistic. No evidence either way.

Is it software?

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Overcoming Android’s issues

Sources and references : This list, by Charles Hudson, was a part of a talk he gave this week at an event put on by Yetizen. Betable reposted it on their blog and we couldn’t resist re-re-posting it.
1. Fragmentation
Problem: Unlike the iPhone, there are many types of Android devices, which leads to OS fragmentation, varying screen size and resolutions, and types of hardware. This means that the user experience can vastly differ from user to user. Also, developers can drown themselves in work trying to make their game compatible with everything.
Solution: Charles suggests that you test your game on multiple devices to make sure the user experience can consistent across a sea of devices. He said that he bought old, “well loved” Android phones from resellers to cheaply test his game on each type of hardware. As for OS, if you need to draw a line in the sand and not supporting older OS versions to provide a consistent experience, then do so. According to Ngmoco, which spoke later in the evening, 94% of Android gamers are on 2.1 or above, so you won’t miss many customers by cutting out the troublesome 1.6 and 1.7 versions.
2. Development & Testing
Problem: Because it is so easy to launch new applications and versions on Android – you are essentially just one button away from pushing new versions – developers can sometimes get trigger happy. This can overwhelm users and stop them from updating your game.
Solution: Android users typically don’t update their apps as often as iOS users, so Charles recommended a minimum period of one week between app updates, excepting urgent bug fixes of course. And as we mentioned before, you should test your game on each major type of phone and supported OS version before an update goes live. This can prevent unforseen hiccups and help you avoid those urgent bug fixes.
3. Metrics
Problem: Developers are typically flying totally blind when it comes to the way that users are interacting with their app, especially on Android.
Solution: Look into integrating with an analytics platform that fits your budget. Google Analytics is free, but can be a trickier integration as it isn’t built for mobile. If you are looking for an easier and more mobile-friendly solution, there are mobile game analytics platforms that are free to try such as Flurry and Localytics.
4. Platform Wars
Problem: 23% of all smartphone customers are on iOS devices, and conventional wisdom states that iOS users are more likely to pay for apps and complete in-app purchases than their Android counterparts.
Solution: To paraphrase Charles Hudson, “it is better to build a great game on one platform instead of a mediocre game on two platforms.” Each platform has different capabilities, so focus your resources in building an awesome game on one platform before you worry about iOS. Bionic Panda is an Android only game studio, so Charles clearly practices what he preaches.

To HUAWEI Technology Co., Ltd's open letter

To HUAWEI Technology Co., Ltd. Mr. Ren Zhengfei, HUAWEI consumer BG CEO Mr. Yu Chengdong's open letter​Dear Mr. Ren Zhengfei, Mr. Yu Chengdong:
After the launch of the new flagship P10 and P10 plus phones from your mobile terminal series, the market has been warmly received and sold well. Here, I would like to extend my warm congratulations to you and express my sincere appreciation for your persistent belief in your efforts to create the perfect product.
Since the P10 series has been sold, up to now,only as far as I know, there are a lot of negative voices about the products in the European,Japanese and Chinese mainland market. In this regard, as a P10 plus consumers, I expressed serious concern and identified with them.
These different voices I call the "gate" incident. Including but not limited to: "OC (Oleophobic Coating) gate", "flash memory gate", "WIFI gate","memory gate" etc..
OC Gate, the P10 phone's screens don't have a oleophobic layer, which makes the screen feel dry and the screen is prone to a lot of fingerprints and sticky dust.
Flash Gate, the same type of P10 phone uses flash memory components that are significantly different from the speed level.
WIFI Gate, the p10 phones have an unstable connection when use WIFI function.
memory gate,the p10 phones lpddr3 and lpddr4 memory mix
Incident has been erupting for more than a month, although HUAWEI officials during the above incident made some statements, but in my opinion, the statement did not positive respond to the demands of the consumers. That is, there is no clear answer to whether the P10 series has any of these problems (especially flash memory), and a viable solution to the problem.
Huawei's achievements as a company have been remarkable, and it is not easy to develop. As a person concerned with supporting huawei's development and huawei product users, it is not expected that the above incidents will have a negative impact on future development of HUAWEI. To this end, I would like to ask the official HUAWEI to make a positive answer to the following, and give solutions.
1: HUAWEI consumer BG CEO Yu Chengdong said that the latest P10 phones have been sprayed oleophobic layer,pre purchase of the users can go to the HUAWEI experience store for free film or spray oleophobic layer.
For the latter solution, please:
a: Free film has the validity and the number of restrictions?
b: Whether the experience store ready for spraying?
c: Can the early buyers to replace the same type of P10 phones that have been sprayed oleophobic layer?
2: For the use of different speed levels of flash memory of the P10 phones, is there a monetary compensation for that?
3: As soon as possible to release the firmware upgrade package to solve the problem of unstable WIFI connection.
A great company in addition to possess extraordinary innovation ability and the outstanding product, it should have excellent customer relationship processing capabilities, able to face up to the customer reasonable demands and positive response. Again, i would like to ask HUAWEIi officials to give an answer to these questions.
HUAWEI P10 plus users
2017-05-02
Wasn't there an issue with the ram also?
ClausG76 said:
Wasn't there an issue with the ram also?
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I think Kirin 960 does not support lpddr3 and "memory gate" are so far rumors only. Only the "flash gate" is established.
Regarding the Wifi, i heard its something to with the 5Ghz connection. Also have you tried turning off the "WLAN+" option.

Gms vs hms

I truly believe that having these in competition will better everyone's experience with both. Competition is good. Look at Apple vs Microsoft years ago.
What's everyone else's thoughts on this ?
Competition is always good
Competition is good. Google is boring and old school.
Time for HMS to change the definition of Smartphone.
I wish HMS would get up to speed fast. That way I don't need to be so reliant on one company for mobile-related services.
Still GMS is better for now
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Indeed the competition is good and I hope Huawei succeeds in dethroning the giant Google.
HMS
Indeed the competition is good and I hope Huawei succeeds in dethroning the giant Google.
Indeed, I'm all for increased competition as it should benefit end users!
HMS and unlocked bootloader would be awesome. Huawei needs to be unlocked in order to be relevant for the community.
HMS is way better than gms.
I hope we will get a nice alternative to Huawei. Would be nice to see this in custom ROM's as well as an alternative to GAPPS.
Sorry I am new to this community. I feel like GMS and HMS are pretty similar at the moment but HMS could be a lot more personalised whereas GMS will have stay pretty much the same to remain user friendly to all
I really don't feel like this will bring any good, even when i feel as competition is always better than monopoly, but i don't use either GMS nor HMS, i prefer use FOSS and nothing from these ones.
Bests ^^.
It would be interesting to see how it plays out. Since HMS is developed by Huawei, there is definitely more of a negative stigma towards it due to that whole CCP and Huawei scandal.
Its competition which makes one discover new ways.
from my point of view
Global Reach:HMS Core have covered 570 million users in over 190 countries and regions, which helps developers acquire new users quickly and efficiently. HMS Core establishes a seamless connection between your application and users around the world.
One-stop Integration: The Huawei Developer Website provides API references, development guides, sample codes, and video guides to make you know how to integrate quickly with HMS Core in your app’s development.
Comprehensive Capabilities of Basic Services:HMS Core provides 24(still increasing:good:) kinds of capabilities based on the Chipset-Device-Cloud mode, which helps developers integrate into the HMS Core ecosystem quickly and brings better and intelligent experience to Huawei users in all scenarios.
Competition is good for better development
Something new to look Forward
Finally we have something new to look forward to. It would be interesting to see how Huawei goes against Google
I think the gotcha is push notifications. Many (most) apps uses services that require GMS on the phone, so their notifications simply do not work on HMS. It is unrealistic to expect app developers to port their code for HMS.
I wonder if there's any scope for a 'proxy' service to forward notifications from services that target GMS to ones that can only use HMS.
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HUAWEI AR Engine: The Whys, Hows and What’s Next

Motion tracking, environment tracking, body tracking and face tracking – while they might be basic Augmented Reality (AR) capabilities, these are the technologies that allow your app to bridge virtual world with the real world. At the core of it, what drives this brand new visually interactive user experience is the AR Engine.
Huawei has launched the HMS Core 5.0 in June last year to bring comprehensive Huawei's leading core service capabilities to developers, in return helping them elevate the user experience. One new feature is the AR Engine that offers a wide range of AR-related capabilities, giving developers the means to easily create an all-new interactive and immersive AR experiences.
The project to build the HUAWEI AR Engine began, simply enough, by considering what the next generation of consumer electronics and computing platforms might look like. It’s commonly accepted that the biggest developments in the electronics industry only occur maybe once every 10 to 15 years. Mobile phones have been around since the mid-1990s – over two decades now. Even smartphones have now been on the market for 13 years if you count from 2007 when we saw the first real breakthrough.
So, isn’t it about time we consider exactly what the next generation of technology will look like? What will be the most important new operating systems and software technology for new consumer electronics? And what will the user interaction be like with this new generation of products? It’s high time the electronics industry reflected on its changing business models, as well as changes in the habits of its users.
To answer some of these questions, Huawei tasked numerous research teams with conducting a range of comprehensive studies on the industry. After long periods of research and discussion, these teams identified AR as one of the most important new directions the electronics industry will take. After months of discussion and planning that involved even top management, Huawei engineers are now on a mission to commercialise an AR Engine.
The development team debated at great length on the potential scope of applications this new technology might have. This began with a discussion on the traditional uses of AR to date; functions like Simultaneous Location and Mapping (SLAM), light estimation, image recognition and tracking being the most notable examples. We then launched a systematic development of new algorithms, optimising performance at the system- and chip-level to improve key factors like accuracy, reliability, performance and power consumption. Finally, with the launch of the HUAWEI P20 at the 2018 Huawei Developer Conference (HDC), we were ready to release the first ever commercially available version of our new AR Engine on the HiSilicon Kirin 970.
Following that, at the launch of the HUAWEI Mate 20, we provided an in-depth showcasing of our AR 3D modelling software. Soon afterwards, new features such as the AR Lens and 3D Qmojis were successfully adopted into main product lines by both Huawei and Honor.
However, initial research returned with mixed feedback and confusion about some of these features. Established industry experts claimed that AR was yet to establish itself as a truly stand-out feature of any smartphone. Indeed, many applications of the technology were slow to take off. As an example, due to limited smartphone rendering capabilities, AR 3D modelling has struggled to guarantee the high levels of accuracy and precision that are needed to support a mobile display online in real-time. The perception of AR technology remained that it was just a “toy”, something confined to the periphery of the electronics industry, at least for the time being.
We spent a lot of time thinking about these challenges. That’s when we decided to orient Huawei’s AR 2.0 towards three digital technology areas: people, objects and the environment. Step by step, we then laid out four priority business areas, corresponding to the technology’s core capabilities, applications, ecosystem and Cloud solutions. Finally, the AR Engine 2.0 was successfully launched in 2019. This second generation helped to redefine the AR Engine as an intelligent geometric AI platform, but more clearly distinct from generic AI platforms both in terms of its construction and purpose.
The AR metrics we have created have quickly become some of our users’ favourite gadget hacks, including an AR-assisted ToF camera. In a short space of time, this tool, in particular has proven extremely popular, racking up tens of millions of users every month. The AR Lens app, combining the Huawei camera and AR Engine technology, really is great fun to use. It’s no wonder, then, that it has already accumulated over 10 million MAU (monthly active users). We’ll continue polishing these two applications to provide Huawei customers with the great user experience they expect.
In the first half of 2020, the AR Engine, having completed a number of important optimizations and quality-control checks, went live around the world with Huawei’s accelerated development of the HMS Ecosystem. Updates to the AR Engine are now at the forefront of HMS Core 5.0, which is expanding by over 20% per month, indicating an adjusted growth rate of over 100%. The Huawei AR Engine is supported on most phones and tablets using Huawei's Hisilicon Kirin 970/980/990 and Series 8/Series 7 chipsets.
Over the past three years, we have worked extensively, closely and openly with leading partners in a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, gaming, education, maps and ecosystem toolchain developers to create an improved AR ecosystem in China. We’ve also released Reality Studio to support the rapid development of new AR applications.
With complete upgrades to portraiture, lighting, SLAM and more, don’t miss the release of our AR Engine 3.0 and the much-anticipated Reality Studio at Huawei HDC 2020.
Learn more from the video:
For more details about AR Engine, please visit the official website:
https://developer.huawei.com/consumer/en/hms/huawei-arengine/?ha_source=hms2
Very nice upgrade of AR Engine. It's very nice.
Is Huawei M and P series news is real?

HarmonyOS: The New Possibilities

Huawei just finished introducing HarmonyOS and everything looks promising. From HMS core to the updated AppGallery, everything falls into place as Huawei officially unveiled and welcomed everyone to their highly anticipated in-house operating system.
Highlights and Features
HarmonyOS has a lot of new features that makes their system worth checking out.
Combination of Apps and Widgets
HarmonyOS expands the overall functionality of simple app icons and widgets by combining them and creating icons that you can tap/swipe up and see the background activity and convert into widgets if you need to.
One OS for All Devices
As existing Huawei smartphones prepare for their turn on switching to HarmonyOS. Software fragmentation is one of the leading concerns of operating systems in general. This means that some software cannot be easily implemented on other devices because of their difference in terms of hardware and software configurations. An example would be a certain GAME that can be played on DEVICE A which also shares almost the same hardware configuration with DEVICE B .. BUT .. device B is from a different brand. There are scenarios where you can play it on device A but cannot on device B due to this premise.
Harmony OS makes this possible across brands and models and configurations.
Control Everything From Your Huawei Smartphone
As Huawei envisioned HarmonyOS, the smartphone is at the center of almost everything. You can change the temperature on your air conditioning unit, monitor and adjust the air purifier. You can switch in between devices and rooms and control almost every appliance and light bulb in the house. What better way to have a unified and centralized controller other than your smartphone.With this technology, you can even lock/unlock or even start your car.
Smart devices are becoming a main part of the household. Smart coffee machines, toasters, induction cookers, vacuums, bulbs, washing machines, cars and ovens. As technology moves forward, so will smart devices.
Keeping Things "Open" For Everyone
Huawei's goal of keeping HarmonyOS open to all makes things more interesting and more versatile. This allows for more development as well as faster progress and updates not only for HarmonyOS but also for the applications, software and hardware that manufacturers and brands will produce.
Having an open system gives us a bigger ecosystem of devices as well.
Home appliances - Personal equipment - Vehicles - Machines
Everything can be possible. Can't wait to see what HarmonyOS can do more and can't wait to get my hands on it when the update arrives.

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