Hey there!
I'm jumping off the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 ship, as it has suddenly died with all my data (thanks, samsung, for using slow and low quality
EMMC flash memory!)
just received my Mate 10 and the key issue (if i should dismiss weak vibro) is low headphone volume.
I have high-quality 35 ohm Denon headphones that deliver outstanding sound quality, and had no problems using them with samsung devices (Note 4, S3, tablets). I usually listened to the music on 60-70% volume and it was REALLY loud).
Now, with Mate 10, I had to max up the volume, but even at 100% it's not enough. Well, its sort of ok mostly, but not so enjoyable, and many tracks say "a bit more volume please".
Is there anything that can be done? I remember that custom kernels allow increasing volume, but that means rooting. Could anyone give an advice?
What is their sensitivity? If I use it with my Hifman HE400i the volume is also a bit low. They are 35ohm and have a sensitivity of 93dB. If they are really good headphones you wont be able to use them to their full potential plugged in to a phone anyways, so it will probably be better to pair them with an external DAC/amplifier. The usb-c port can output a bit of power, so you can probably use a decent usb DAC like the audioquest dragonfly for example. I use a hegel super DAC without any problems.
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What is their sensitivity? If I use it with my Hifman HE400i the volume is also a bit low. They are 35ohm and have a sensitivity of 93dB. If they are really good headphones you wont be able to use them to their full potential plugged in to a phone anyways, so it will probably be better to pair them with an external DAC/amplifier. The usb-c port can output a bit of power, so you can probably use a decent usb DAC like the audioquest dragonfly for example. I use a hegel super DAC without any problems.
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sensitivity 104dB/mW.
Well, the thing is that i used them with Note 4 and galaxy s3 (both are phones) with no problems - the sound was outstanding and volume very decent.
I did some more tests and found out that volume in videos that i see with VLC player is much higher (and more satisfactory). So the port is physically capable to deliver. Maybe should try a different media player?
You could try Foobar 2000. There is a setting called replay gain in the menu that will probably be able to boost the volume.
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as per title..anyone? mean to say PORTABLE.
I've stopped using gs2 to listen to music long time as the volume is too low and also finding harder to drive my headphones to full. Just only yesterday, my iriver broke and in the market for new player. Thinking whether should be better off with just getting Fiio E6.
yes, we do lack line out through usb (very hopeful that it'll be put on ICS) and the only way to connect is through headphone out which is already amplified.
impressions pls. Thanks.
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as per title..anyone? mean to say PORTABLE.
I've stopped using gs2 to listen to music long time as the volume is too low and also finding harder to drive my headphones to full. Just only yesterday, my iriver broke and in the market for new player. Thinking whether should be better off with just getting Fiio E6.
yes, we do lack line out through usb (very hopeful that it'll be put on ICS) and the only way to connect is through headphone out which is already amplified.
impressions pls. Thanks.
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volume is too low???? either your ears or s2 is done!!!!
think it's both. But yes normally I listen to a high level of volume and gs2 is the one of the lowest sounding device (ie through headphone out) i've ever owned. Not made for each other and made worst by owning couple of higher impedance headphones.
i have been using a FiiO E5 from when i had a n900, i think the volume is too low on the s2 aswell, i think you can get them for less than 20quid now, deffo worth it imo
thanks for that. I'm almost set my heart to buy one of these for later to be paired with sansa clip+ or similar. Probably will be cheaper and better than cowon's or sony x's. It's just curious what will be the effect on sound which is already amplified as HO in gs2.
Try Voodoo Louder from the Market for a 6dB increase, or the app in my sig for more than that. I use Brainwavz M3's with this app & find I only need to have volume at around 30% even in noisy environments (public transport, walking around town).
I've not found the S2 volume to be too bad, but I've used both one of the small "pop up" speakers, as well as a full blown amp, and a car headphone in socket - all absolutely fine.
you've tried Equalizer?, is in the market, is very good. regarding your original question, i use mine with logitech LB21, and it's sounds amazing.
Regards.
with Poweramp I think the sound is louder than the music original application, you can find it on the market
yes i use the E6 - it works fine and the quality is good.
Do not use any of the EQ's etc as suggested here to get it louder. The samsung internal amp can only go so loud without distorting - all u are doing with software boosts is dynamically effecting the music you are listening to. Somewhat like the radio does. It makes all of the instruments in the track as loud as each other by compressing the loudest sounds and lifting the volume of the lower ones. If you really want to get a louder performance from your phone use different headphones - that run on less ohms or use an external portable amp like any of Eii's series.
that's a very good explanation. I've also tried with low impedance headphones but still lacks the "punch". My bad as in OP I used the wrong word "loud" instead of "punch".
so what's the effect of E6 on already amplified Headphone out? just to amplify few dbs on all spectrums??
Rockbox on [email protected] and [email protected] with Voodoo [email protected] did improve the overall sound. Also maybe in that time, my ears started to adjust with the sound coming off GS2. Found similar thread here where ppl's had good experience with amplifer. Ordered Fiio E11 and will post impressions arrive.
Hi everyone.
I did a Google search and did not find anything related.
As we already know/experienced, the sound quality on cellphones when playing music on headphones/earphones is not that good. Someone might suggest boosting the audio file with pc software or even using a 3rd party app to make the sound better/louder on the phone, but this usually does not help that much, if not make the sound even worse.
So this got me thinking... what if we could somehow harness the power of our portable x-fi go soundcard. It's a soundcard integrated in a USB stick.
http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content...-Sound-Blaster-X-Fi-Go-Pro-USB-Sound-Card.jpg
So what would theoretically be needed if this is to be implemented.
* Female USB to Male MicroUSB/MiniUSB cable, to make a connection between the stick and the cellphone.
* Android drivers for Creative X-Fi Go, so that the cellphone can detect the stick and utilize its magic power.
* If the cellphone is not able to give enough power to the USB card, there's always the possibility to split the power cable of the usb cable and connect it to a external battery.
Anyone here with greater knowledge know if this is possible?
If this idea becomes real, we will also eliminate the need to buy external amps like Fiio.
If this problem has already been solved, then please point me to right directions because i did not find anything related on Google or xda search.
Thanks in advanced.
I'm sure this is possible but I don't see the benefit of it. The sound on my device I think is awesome as it is. Investing in some good headphones will probably be a lot more beneficial than implementing this idea.
Out of curiosity what device and headphones do you have?
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I'm using Samsung Galaxy S2 with Sennheiser HD215, and believe me, there's a huge difference, when listening to music on my laptop trough X-Fi vs sg2 with my headphones.
http://www.virtualdj.com/image/22168/3424/s_headphones.jpg
I think the audio quality on my Android devices are fine, the sound is usually limited by the quality of the input file since I'm usually playing lossy formats like MP3. On GB or newer you can get a system wide EQ app, I use Equalizer. It will allow you to set and EQ and bass boost which can make earbuds sound a lot better.
If the audio simply isn't loud enough from your phone you could get an external headphone booster. Boosting audio in files or via an EQ too much will only lead to distortion, where as a headphone booster is a small amplifier that runs from external power and amplifies the analog audio output. These will be helpful when powering larger headphones.
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I am known to headphone amps, such as FiiO. That's why i was wondering if someone knew how to create some sort of android drivers for creative x-fi usb sound card, and i could use that as an amp instead of buying a new one.
For Recording!
I want to see support for USB sound cards not so much for playback but for recording! There is currently no way to get sound from a microphone into an android thing.
An app that made an android sound studio using a USB sound card would be a major winner. Yeah, drivers and all that but hey!
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I want to see support for USB sound cards not so much for playback but for recording! There is currently no way to get sound from a microphone into an android thing.
An app that made an android sound studio using a USB sound card would be a major winner. Yeah, drivers and all that but hey!
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i'm not a hardcore programmer, but i'm pretty sure if someone actually got a sound card working, the recording part would follow along.
How about porting X-Fi functionality from Creative ZiiO 7 tablet. think it can be done if the X-fi is not hardware base unlike, Beats, xLoud can be ported to other devices.
people with stock earbuds will never notice a difference lol. people who invest in premium earbuds of $150+ get used to the higher quality available on high quality audio devices. and yes my samsung galaxy note has horrible sound compared to the x-fi mp3 player.
the x-fi crystalizer is no marketing gimmick. it's an audiophile's wet dream. i sometimes process things through it like a real-time sfx filter haha
Hello.
I wanna to ask you for something - stock earphones from L9 has got 18 OHm impedance, but if I plug in earphones with 16 OHm impedance will broke my phone/DAC/jack or something other?
I wanna to buy Panasonic HJE120. Will be ok, or not?
Thanks for reply!
It's alright
I hate that not enough people use RMAA or just test these things (unless they're high-end devices). My NuForce NE-700Ms have 16ohms impedance, and they sound fabulous. The source impedance for the L9 has not yet been tested, but they at least seem to be able to drive my IEMs with little/no fuss.
On that note, I'll probably switch to an Optimus G. Source impedance of 1.89ohms places it just above the iPhone 4S (first [tested] smartphone to do that, as far as I know), and overall audio output is impressively low on distortion.
So, I haven't got any problem with 16OHm earphones, yeah?
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So, I haven't got any problem with 16OHm earphones, yeah?
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Too much of worries with so much of details, may leads to heart problems after few years. I would have just plug in and use it without asking anyone. At least I am sure the headphone does not explode in my years. lolz
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2 OHM's difference can't broke your phone but this headphones will be little bit louder than stock.
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B007F906Q2/...and=476253706331216390&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
i use this ones, hope that helps. stock jb rooted...,poweramp profile for headset, tasker turns headphone to max vol because controller at the cable.
beautifuel musik, heasdset!!! in ear, tel extrem good, test in wind and little storm...
If the music stutters in Poweramp when the mobile is in lock state, increase audio buffer one notch. Headset button controller app is also fine for volume setting, however, button long press is reserved by JB in contrary to ICS.
On my various Nokia phones, the volume limiter annihilated any volume differences between 16 and 32 ohm headsets to keep the phone and mainly you healthy. ****ing EU law.
Is there a way to increase the maximum headphones volume ?
Yes buy another headphone i am already on samsung one and soud is awesome
i use Denon AH-C50MA and sound is great
What's you headphones impedance? Mine piston 2's are loud even 3 volume bars @ 16ohm
Well i don't care about my earphones impedance as my previous smartphone (S3) could easily drive these with louder sound.
I think i will probably give a try with Viper4Android.
I also find the Honor 7 volume levels too low. The phone speaker as well as the headset.
Call volume is low as well but you can fix that by setting it into speaker mode.
The low headset volume annoys me the most. (I use HQ headset)
I found the service mode menu and had hoped i could increase headset volume levels there.
https://youtu.be/r0gSdYQ5egw
Sadly, there is no option. I tried some apps from the playstore but they didnt do anything.
I'm currently (officially) participating in the Android 6 Beta so am not rooted or anything.
Is there a way i can increase the level already?
Or maybe once I have the final Android 6, can i root/unlock the phone and increase the volume in another manner? I want to stay on the original roms, dont want to flash something else on my phone.
Anyone else finding this annoying as well and has a fix?
I am running 80ohm sennheiser dt880 and the volume is high enough for me so every mobile headphone with 32ohm should be easily powered to painful volume . Not sure which media you play, but if you need higher volume i suggest a mobile dac as headphone amplifier
Hey, I'm not sure if anyone else is having this issue but when the dac isn't on, it's static during the music and when I'm in a call, there is static in calls on the left side. Does any one have a fix for this? I've had these headphones in my V20 and this is my first day with my V30+
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Hey, I'm not sure if anyone else is having this issue but when the dac isn't on, it's static during the music and when I'm in a call, there is static in calls on the left side. Does any one have a fix for this? I've had these headphones in my V20 and this is my first day with my V30+
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haha - and here I am and thought this phone was having hardware issues or something (does it ?) - perhaps it's just the headphones and they have an inherent flaw ?.
At least I'm getting the same weird behavior that at some points it plays fine but at others there's LOTs of (electric sounding) static on the left side.
It's actually never fully continuous for longer periods - it's more of a stuttery (multi-second) behavior for several seconds that this noise appears.
Also at first it was only via quad dac enabled - on AOSP Pie (internal LineageOS 16.0 build) it's existing no matter whether I play via Android Audio or Hi-Res Audio (USB Audio Player Pro).
And this exists on very low volume levels - there seems to be a connection that when the volume levels are raised (above 25/30% or so - I'm usually listening rather low but with this phone and hi-res - why not go higher ?)
it's way more salient and there also may be distortion involved:
An especially remarkable track in this regard is Thomas Bergersen's [from Two Steps From Hell] "Lost in Las Vegas" (around 08:30 or so towards the end, 10:14 long) towards the end - a rather electric part of the track and
when you raise the volume the output becomes rather distorted which might be connected to that "issue" and the left channel is also hissing/giving off static way more.
Perhaps audiophile folks and audio hardware experts have a better idea what this is hinting at ?
So:
not sure if it's an issue itself with the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD that they can't take that extra AMP (they are supposed to be low impedance and thus not require high output)
but somehow this behavior only occurs on the LG V30 - so perhaps there some kind of hardware issue ?
It seemed to have gotten better however from my impression with all those updates to the subsystems in the kernel - so it's perhaps just bad hardware design and the headphones are rather sensible
with their balanced armatures ?
Anyone else with balanced armature (BA) headphones observing a similar effect ?
I haven't had any trouble with my (dynamic driver) headphones. I wonder, have you messed around with forcing high impedance mode?
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I haven't had any trouble with my (dynamic driver) headphones. I wonder, have you messed around with forcing high impedance mode?
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You mean high impedance adapters and such ?
Nope, only directly connecting the headphones.
And whereas before it only happened with the quad dac activated (which might provide more juice),
it now also seems to appear with the internal DAC used only (toggled via USB Audio Player Pro).
There might be a difference on how the internal and quad DAC interact or are active on recent Pie AOSP ROMs however ...
It still doesn't explain that weird behavior from the headphones themselves
Thx
I have tried it stock with no mods and it has static. Slide down the drop down and turn on the Dac and it goes away but only for music and system sounds. With calls it definitely makes noise all the time. I tried with a AOSP rom and it makes noise system wide because of the Dac. I did try my Phillips headphones and those work fine without the Dac on but I think it's a specific issue with these ear buds because I also have a 2nd pair and they also make the same noise.
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I have tried it stock with no mods and it has static. Slide down the drop down and turn on the Dac and it goes away but only for music and system sounds. With calls it definitely makes noise all the time. I tried with a AOSP rom and it makes noise system wide because of the Dac. I did try my Phillips headphones and those work fine without the Dac on but I think it's a specific issue with these ear buds because I also have a 2nd pair and they also make the same noise.
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yeah, the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD are the only headphones so far that show this kind of "behavior" with the LG V30,
not sure what is up with that.
but I think it's a specific issue with these ear buds because I also have a 2nd pair and they also make the same noise.
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very well could be, I wonder though where the reason for that might lie and if a fix of some sorts is possible - quite like those headphones and would like to use them on the go
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yeah, the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD are the only headphones so far that show this kind of "behavior" with the LG V30,
not sure what is up with that.
very well could be, I wonder though where the reason for that might lie and if a fix of some sorts is possible - quite like those headphones and would like to use them on the go
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Trying to figure that out myself. I love these headphones now I have to find replacements