Unable to record in 4K due to stuttering? - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I have an Exynos S9+ (SM-G965F) with no SD card, I'm using WQHD+ screen resolution and recording at UHD 3840x2160 30fps in auto mode. HDR is on auto and image stabilization is on.
I haven't done too much testing but all the footage I've recorded so far has been a stuttery mess.
My other issue is that the 4K recordings don't upload to youtube at 4K, they are all capped at 1080p and look pretty garbage on top of all the stuttering and distortion. I've checked with 10 second clips over 4 days to make sure it wasn't still processing. I've tried both direct uploads and moving files to PC and then uploading but it makes no difference.
One interesting thing to note is that when I play my own youtube video back on the S9 I get the option to watch at 1440p but that doesn't exist anywhere else.
If anyone has any helpful information I would appreciate it.

Mine has same issue. You need to either record 4k 30fps with video stabilisation turned off, or, 4k 60fps which automatically turns off video stabilisation. Video stabilisation is only software EIS anyways. The phone will still use the hardware OIS. For some reason sanding aren't able to get OIS and EIS to play well together.

This issue has been fixed in the latest update (BRE5 for my international device). I had it on my device too, but only in 4k 30fps. Now its fixed.

Huey85 said:
Mine has same issue. You need to either record 4k 30fps with video stabilisation turned off, or, 4k 60fps which automatically turns off video stabilisation. Video stabilisation is only software EIS anyways. The phone will still use the hardware OIS. For some reason sanding aren't able to get OIS and EIS to play well together.
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It is still a little bit clunky, the only resolutions I got the most stable shots are in FHD60 and FHD30 (without video stabilization). Surprisingly, FHD60 is not jerky at all, only sacrificing quality compared to 4k.

-Vulture- said:
This issue has been fixed in the latest update (BRE5 for my international device). I had it on my device too, but only in 4k 30fps. Now its fixed.
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30 FPS 4K now recording fine without stutter or choppiness? That's great. I will test it myself. But I've started to prefer 60 FPS as it's much smoother than 30 FPS.
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kyooohei08 said:
It is still a little bit clunky, the only resolutions I got the most stable shots are in FHD60 and FHD30 (without video stabilization). Surprisingly, FHD60 is not jerky at all, only sacrificing quality compared to 4k.
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Is 4K60FPS still choppy and stuttering for you? 60FPS is fine for me.

I had the same problem before the BRE5 update, only with stabilization on and UHD30FPS, It's fixed now but I prefer 60fps and OIS either way.

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Is 4K60FPS still choppy and stuttering for you? 60FPS is fine for me.
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Not anymore, but I am not getting smooth videos out of it. FHD60 seems to be the balance between more stable videos and without stuttering.
With 4k60, no stuttering but videos are unstable.
FHD30 with stabilization on is great too, but sometimes choppiness strikes.

Sora94 said:
I had the same problem before the BRE5 update, only with stabilization on and UHD30FPS, It's fixed now but I prefer 60fps and OIS either way.
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Yeah, im recording at 60fps too, much smoother than 30fps. And if you keep your phone steady, OIS is enough for nice footage.

Hey guys can you confirm that HDR works only in 30fps video modes? I noticed difference while recording in4k60 and 4k30. Same with FHD60 and FHD30

That choppiness shaking and floating makes Samsung s9+ and basically all other Samsung's unusable.... My iPhone 6 plus feels like a professional camera vs this hyped up camera gimmick

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[Q] Slow Motion in 240fps

hello guys, you can mod room in slowmotion 240fps as 6 Iphone?
That's an awesome collection of random words.
KingVeto said:
That's an awesome collection of random words.
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sorry for my english, but I wanted to present an easy way to ask if some developer to be able to modify the application of room to run the video in slowmotion 240fps just as it does on the iPhone 6 Thanks
No, I should apologize for my jerkass comment. You should ask this question in the General Android Development forums, man.
The camera app can already do 240fps
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Theres a camera module to download on samsung apps for slow motion...
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sorry but I can not find this app on samsung
Good Thread, also interested.
S5 camera doesn't do 240 FPS, it has the same 1/8 slow motion, but it shoots at 120 FPS, and the video output is actually 8 times slower with 15 FPS. with 240 FPS i would be 8 times slower but with 30 FPS for a much smoother motion.
Thanks!
AMoosa said:
The camera app can already do 240fps
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Go into camera mode and select mode then scroll to bottom and select download... Itll take you to samsung store into camera extra modules listing. Its the sequence module.
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deadlocked007 said:
I don't understand? 1/1 would be 30fps 1/2 would be 60fps. 1/4 would be 120fps. Last but not least is 1/8 at 240fps. So yes we can record in 240fps.
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1/8 actually means that the video would be 8 times slower than in reality, for example if you film 1 second, when you play it, it would have 8 seconds. and the playback video is at 15 frames per second, 15 x 8 seconds equals with 120 frames shot. the video was 1 second so, 120 frames per second you can record the same 1/8 speed, but after that the video you watch has 15 FPS, it it were 240 FPS the video would had 30 fps.
deadlocked007 said:
Lol I still don't understand what you are saying. The human eye captures 30 fps so reality to us would be 30 fps is it not?
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Uhm... The human eye captures an infinite amount of "frames", its how our brain processes the images perceived by our eyes that changes things up and we can actually see up to about 250-300fps. Which is why looking at a 60hz and a 144hz screen is a completely different experience.
deadlocked007 said:
So then what is the fps for "reality" like you were saying?
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"Reality" would be recording and playing back at the same fps... If you record in 240fps and play back in 240fps, it's going to be normal speed... However, if you record in 240fps and play in 30fps, it will play back in slow motion. There are plenty of apps that will slow down any video taken, however, those apps can not create more data than was recorded by the camera.
Recording at 30fps and playing back at 15fps will be the same slow motion "speed" as recording at 120fps and playing back at 60fps... etc, etc, etc... If you record at 24,000fps and play back at 12,000fps, you are going to see the same "speed" as the 30fps video played at 15fps. The difference is the quality. When you have more fps, you can slow it down further before it begins to look choppy.
The higher the fps, the more you can slow the video before it gets choppy.
The S5 will only record 120fps, record a slo-mo video at 1/4 speed and then record one at 1/8 speed and look at the quality difference. The 1/8 speed video looks a lot less smooth because it is the same fps at the 1/4 speed video, but they have slowed the playback speed on it.
KingVeto said:
No, I should apologize for my jerkass comment. You should ask this question in the General Android Development forums, man.
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^This guy. We need more like him on the interwebs.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG G6 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I did a few sample videos with the different quality settings and WOAH!!! Especially the videos at 60fps with adequate light from a lamp. When a lot of light it's even smoother when I figured it could not be smoother. Nothing like it. Heck, video of hands looks better than real life and you could see every piece of detail in the skin easily. But I am a photographer so am good with taking photos and have very still hands, so others experience might be a bit different from mine.
Looked great in a well-lit environment as stated above. Had a lot of noise in a darker environment, but not so much as to render it unusable. Someone that does a better job of holding the camera steady and framing the video might have a better result though.
Anyone tried the audio/video quality in loud environments such as discos, festivals , concerts ...?
Very interesting in this feature .
Thanks in advance
kodenho said:
Anyone tried the audio/video quality in loud environments such as discos, festivals , concerts ...?
Very interesting in this feature .
Thanks in advance
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Here is a link to a song I recorded at a Ghost/Iron Maiden song. I forgot to put it on concert mode and left it on normal . Here is a link to a video I recorded later in the show as well, still processing so I don't think YouTube will have it in HAD for a while .
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_nCXjv-woY5ekJmalQ5TmhoOTg/view?usp=drivesdk
Here is the night video, I think I remembered to switch to 4k.
Very poor audio quality
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVQUqvHhw9h/
good video
Is it just me or is the video quality really bad? Full HD videos are not sharp/crisp at all and there's a slight painted/blurry look to frames, even in moderately good sunny conditions.
This is more apparent with the wide angle lens but the normal lens has this too. I tried shooting with the GCam app and the normal lens video is worse than the stock app. Video Stabilisation is on. 4k videos are pretty sharp but Full HD is my preferred choice.
Anyone know any settings that could be changed to fix this?
Ok guys, this is my try. First and last part of video is recorded with LG G6, 1080p 60fps on DJI Osmo Mobile. It's not bad at all. Sharpness and crispness is better on 1080p 30fps but I needed slowmo. In manual mode you have much more control but it's OK even in auto mode. What do You think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLgYlADImc
neoxx3m said:
Ok guys, this is my try. First and last part of video is recorded with LG G6, 1080p 60fps on DJI Osmo Mobile. It's not bad at all. Sharpness and crispness is better on 1080p 30fps but I needed slowmo. In manual mode you have much more control but it's OK even in auto mode. What do You think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLgYlADImc
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Fun Tip - Add motion blur to the parts where you increased the footage speed to sync up with the music. Will literally make it look 2x better.
Gagan Bhat said:
Fun Tip - Add motion blur to the parts where you increased the footage speed to sync up with the music. Will literally make it looks 2x better.
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Thanks for the tip Gagan. This is my first video in Premiere, after only 30min of tutorials. I'll try that in my next video. Cheers.
Reading posts i must ask, am i the only one who thinks that the quality of video taken with lg g6 camera is terrible and unacceptable, 1080p looks like upscale from 480p and is very overprocessed? i wrote about it to lg and they replied that everything is fine, can't believe it! 1080p video from my old lg g3 was great, g6 sucks more then anything that has ever suck before. is there any way to change it and turn current '1080p' on g6 into real 1080p?

Honor 9 video recording latency

Hello I've got this weird issue.
So during video recording on 1080p 60fps I see this weird latency, it's like captured video is a couple of miliseconds behind. It's the opposite of smooth. Just watch the video. I think it's part of the "optical stabilization option" because the same problem persists on 1080p 30fps with optical stabilization ON.
There's NO problem with opt. stab. OFF on 1080p 30fps and also there's no problem on 4k.
My girlfriend with her Moto G5 Plus doesn't have any issue at all on 1080p 60fps
Just watch the samples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMbYUKT4xZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWWwOgdZYEU
What do you think?
Thats normal, Software OIS.
So all devices got this problem? It's not like I have a faulty device? Can I get rid of it somehow?
My Honor 9 do that same glitchy thing
Yeah, the Honor 9 doesn't have OIS on it's camera set up. Instead it has Electronic Stabilization. Which isn't the best.
It should be improved with time (EIS)
I got Honor 9 tested. That is normal.
Sarikoo said:
So all devices got this problem? It's not like I have a faulty device? Can I get rid of it somehow?
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You can turn off stabilization. Then it will react normally, but it will be more shaky.
minio.cz said:
You can turn off stabilization. Then it will react normally, but it will be more shaky.
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It's OFF by default on 1080p 60fps and still does that non-smooth thing.
Sarikoo said:
It's OFF by default on 1080p 60fps and still does that non-smooth thing.
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I am sorry. I just tested my phone and it is doing the same thing during recording. Interestingly it seems that 4K has lowest lag.
minio.cz said:
I am sorry. I just tested my phone and it is doing the same thing during recording. Interestingly it seems that 4K has lowest lag.
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Wut. That's unusual.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi A1 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
dego_ said:
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
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Yes it is
Take a look here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qgfwQwRbI
Then see this example too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ncyEPZIds
For me, video seems way more pixelated than it should be when zooming, even in 4K. 4x zoom should be 1080p and it doesn't look like it is, and I can't see an option to use the zoom lens either. And 4K isn't selected by default.
Considering the lack of EIS and OIS it's not good, but not really bad. Avoid shooting videos in low light - they will be awful and they will have a lot of frames dropped.
Without any kind of EIS or OIS, MiA1 is not ideal for video recording.
Alanjameson99 said:
Without any kind of EIS or OIS, MiA1 is not ideal for video recording.
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I tried using the GCam HDR+ with its EIS and to be honest.. I have to really hold the phone as steady as possible and also in walking slowly, the end result is a bit much better than using the camera app by xiaomi..
the quality overall improved a lot, but for usable footage I guess a dedicated gimbal is needed
Pixelation is algo a problem for me. I think that the video is a little bit dark too.
Even using the Google Camera, it's something better but it's not good for me. At least the EIS helps to stabilize the video but the quality is far from good.
jglass071 said:
For me, video seems way more pixelated than it should be when zooming, even in 4K. 4x zoom should be 1080p and it doesn't look like it is, and I can't see an option to use the zoom lens either. And 4K isn't selected by default.
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Man, I think the same thing. It's very weird to see the video so pixelated even using Google Camera. Sometimes it really looks like a low resolution video upscaled to a more resolution.
dego_ said:
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
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Go to setting>audio and check the disable Automatic Gain Control. Now record will have stereo audio.
any idea about 60fps ??

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi A2 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The 4K video looks good, but the catch is there is no EIS support for it.
Even though 1080p/60 or 1080p/30 do support EIS, the video quality is not as good (and looks unrealistic) as recording in 4K.
There are two samples over at GSMArena Mi A2's review, watch two of them in 1080p and you can see the clear difference.
This also happened in Mi A1, which is quite surprising. But it does not happened in other Xiaomi phone like Pocophone F1 and Mi 8.
Tried increasing the bitrate of 1080p video to 40Mbps but no clear result.
You can stabilize the 4K video using the Google Photos app so it's no biggie
If you are on stock rom without root or somekind mod like camera2 api, you can use Open Camera to enable 4K EIS and it is fantastic. Here is sample from youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXy5sdevXE
If you have enabled camera2 api to use google camera port, than you lose 4k video recording option i open camera, and you need to use Snap Camera.
So you can have 4K eis, and it is working really good, do not need to use google photos stabilization because it produces wobbly picture sometimes. Even better use eis and than apply google photos stabilization after for rock steady video
Is it only me or it's common - when record the video, it's not as wide as when making photo. The ratio is the same BTW.
Cropped up video - Reason
Gabskz said:
Is it only me or it's common - when record the video, it's not as wide as when making photo. The ratio is the same BTW.
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Yes, this is the case.
As you know, Mi A2 doesn't offer Optical Image Stabilization, but just Electronic Image Stabilization/ EIS.
The concept of EIS revolves around stabilizing by using the cropped out parts as buffers so that the visible window is less prone to shake. However, if the pixels themselves are blurred, EIS can not do a lot. This is why EIS is bad at low light conditions.

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