Hello I've got this weird issue.
So during video recording on 1080p 60fps I see this weird latency, it's like captured video is a couple of miliseconds behind. It's the opposite of smooth. Just watch the video. I think it's part of the "optical stabilization option" because the same problem persists on 1080p 30fps with optical stabilization ON.
There's NO problem with opt. stab. OFF on 1080p 30fps and also there's no problem on 4k.
My girlfriend with her Moto G5 Plus doesn't have any issue at all on 1080p 60fps
Just watch the samples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMbYUKT4xZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWWwOgdZYEU
What do you think?
Thats normal, Software OIS.
So all devices got this problem? It's not like I have a faulty device? Can I get rid of it somehow?
My Honor 9 do that same glitchy thing
Yeah, the Honor 9 doesn't have OIS on it's camera set up. Instead it has Electronic Stabilization. Which isn't the best.
It should be improved with time (EIS)
I got Honor 9 tested. That is normal.
Sarikoo said:
So all devices got this problem? It's not like I have a faulty device? Can I get rid of it somehow?
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You can turn off stabilization. Then it will react normally, but it will be more shaky.
minio.cz said:
You can turn off stabilization. Then it will react normally, but it will be more shaky.
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It's OFF by default on 1080p 60fps and still does that non-smooth thing.
Sarikoo said:
It's OFF by default on 1080p 60fps and still does that non-smooth thing.
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I am sorry. I just tested my phone and it is doing the same thing during recording. Interestingly it seems that 4K has lowest lag.
minio.cz said:
I am sorry. I just tested my phone and it is doing the same thing during recording. Interestingly it seems that 4K has lowest lag.
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Wut. That's unusual.
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi A1 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
dego_ said:
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
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Yes it is
Take a look here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qgfwQwRbI
Then see this example too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ncyEPZIds
For me, video seems way more pixelated than it should be when zooming, even in 4K. 4x zoom should be 1080p and it doesn't look like it is, and I can't see an option to use the zoom lens either. And 4K isn't selected by default.
Considering the lack of EIS and OIS it's not good, but not really bad. Avoid shooting videos in low light - they will be awful and they will have a lot of frames dropped.
Without any kind of EIS or OIS, MiA1 is not ideal for video recording.
Alanjameson99 said:
Without any kind of EIS or OIS, MiA1 is not ideal for video recording.
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I tried using the GCam HDR+ with its EIS and to be honest.. I have to really hold the phone as steady as possible and also in walking slowly, the end result is a bit much better than using the camera app by xiaomi..
the quality overall improved a lot, but for usable footage I guess a dedicated gimbal is needed
Pixelation is algo a problem for me. I think that the video is a little bit dark too.
Even using the Google Camera, it's something better but it's not good for me. At least the EIS helps to stabilize the video but the quality is far from good.
jglass071 said:
For me, video seems way more pixelated than it should be when zooming, even in 4K. 4x zoom should be 1080p and it doesn't look like it is, and I can't see an option to use the zoom lens either. And 4K isn't selected by default.
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Man, I think the same thing. It's very weird to see the video so pixelated even using Google Camera. Sometimes it really looks like a low resolution video upscaled to a more resolution.
dego_ said:
Guys, could you please comment on audio quality on videos made with this device. On few video reviews people mentioned that sound is kind of choppy or glitchy. Looks like noise reduction isn't utilized, when Mi A1 shoots video. As workaround they mention that it can be solved by shooting video by a 3rd party app (FV-5).
I'm thinking to buy this device, but this bug is holding me from it.
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Go to setting>audio and check the disable Automatic Gain Control. Now record will have stereo audio.
any idea about 60fps ??
Hello I was wondering why we can't record 1080p 120fps or 720p 240fps. Our phones can record 4K with no problem and 4K is exactly 4 times bigger than 1080p by that logic we should be able to record 1080p 120fps and 720p 240fps. Is it really the sensor that holds us back or software limitations?
interesting thought, i am afrait that is because of binarys for hardwaredrivers that are not open source.
But you can have a look at the pixel camera hacks... not shure if they did something like that
We do not even have 60 fps...it even shows in google cam mod but don't actualy record with 60 frames
doru25 said:
We do not even have 60 fps...it even shows in google cam mod but don't actualy record with 60 frames
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Using Open Camera I was able to get 60fps
LameMonster82 said:
Hello I was wondering why we can't record 1080p 120fps or 720p 240fps. Our phones can record 4K with no problem and 4K is exactly 4 times bigger than 1080p by that logic we should be able to record 1080p 120fps and 720p 240fps. Is it really the sensor that holds us back or software limitations?
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which phone has 1080p 120fp ?
cgigate said:
which phone has 1080p 120fp ?
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Galaxy S7 can do it :T
Also Google pixel too
LameMonster82 said:
Using Open Camera I was able to get 60fps
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I recorded with Open Camera and even that its says that is recording at 60fps actualy is 30. Played both samples on PC side-by-side and checked with mediainfo, 30 fps on booth.
Yes, would be nice to have 60 [email protected], don't think 120 fps is possible with the hardware.
LameMonster82 said:
Using Open Camera I was able to get 60fps
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Use mediainfo to confirm it's 60 fps. Open camera reports 60 fps but it's not actually 60 fps, just 30.
nature boy said:
Yes, would be nice to have 60 [email protected], don't think 120 fps is possible with the hardware.
Use mediainfo to confirm it's 60 fps. Open camera reports 60 fps but it's not actually 60 fps, just 30.
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I'm using MOKEE rom and I see a noticeable difference.
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I'm using MOKEE rom and I see a noticeable difference.
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Haven't tried that rom, but I haven't seen any reports of 60 fps working.
I've seen pseudo-60fps with Open Camera on other devices, but it's not 60fps on Media Info. Not sure the reason why
I have an Exynos S9+ (SM-G965F) with no SD card, I'm using WQHD+ screen resolution and recording at UHD 3840x2160 30fps in auto mode. HDR is on auto and image stabilization is on.
I haven't done too much testing but all the footage I've recorded so far has been a stuttery mess.
My other issue is that the 4K recordings don't upload to youtube at 4K, they are all capped at 1080p and look pretty garbage on top of all the stuttering and distortion. I've checked with 10 second clips over 4 days to make sure it wasn't still processing. I've tried both direct uploads and moving files to PC and then uploading but it makes no difference.
One interesting thing to note is that when I play my own youtube video back on the S9 I get the option to watch at 1440p but that doesn't exist anywhere else.
If anyone has any helpful information I would appreciate it.
Mine has same issue. You need to either record 4k 30fps with video stabilisation turned off, or, 4k 60fps which automatically turns off video stabilisation. Video stabilisation is only software EIS anyways. The phone will still use the hardware OIS. For some reason sanding aren't able to get OIS and EIS to play well together.
This issue has been fixed in the latest update (BRE5 for my international device). I had it on my device too, but only in 4k 30fps. Now its fixed.
Huey85 said:
Mine has same issue. You need to either record 4k 30fps with video stabilisation turned off, or, 4k 60fps which automatically turns off video stabilisation. Video stabilisation is only software EIS anyways. The phone will still use the hardware OIS. For some reason sanding aren't able to get OIS and EIS to play well together.
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It is still a little bit clunky, the only resolutions I got the most stable shots are in FHD60 and FHD30 (without video stabilization). Surprisingly, FHD60 is not jerky at all, only sacrificing quality compared to 4k.
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This issue has been fixed in the latest update (BRE5 for my international device). I had it on my device too, but only in 4k 30fps. Now its fixed.
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30 FPS 4K now recording fine without stutter or choppiness? That's great. I will test it myself. But I've started to prefer 60 FPS as it's much smoother than 30 FPS.
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It is still a little bit clunky, the only resolutions I got the most stable shots are in FHD60 and FHD30 (without video stabilization). Surprisingly, FHD60 is not jerky at all, only sacrificing quality compared to 4k.
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Is 4K60FPS still choppy and stuttering for you? 60FPS is fine for me.
I had the same problem before the BRE5 update, only with stabilization on and UHD30FPS, It's fixed now but I prefer 60fps and OIS either way.
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Is 4K60FPS still choppy and stuttering for you? 60FPS is fine for me.
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Not anymore, but I am not getting smooth videos out of it. FHD60 seems to be the balance between more stable videos and without stuttering.
With 4k60, no stuttering but videos are unstable.
FHD30 with stabilization on is great too, but sometimes choppiness strikes.
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I had the same problem before the BRE5 update, only with stabilization on and UHD30FPS, It's fixed now but I prefer 60fps and OIS either way.
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Yeah, im recording at 60fps too, much smoother than 30fps. And if you keep your phone steady, OIS is enough for nice footage.
Hey guys can you confirm that HDR works only in 30fps video modes? I noticed difference while recording in4k60 and 4k30. Same with FHD60 and FHD30
That choppiness shaking and floating makes Samsung s9+ and basically all other Samsung's unusable.... My iPhone 6 plus feels like a professional camera vs this hyped up camera gimmick
Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
mike_8 said:
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
mike_8 said:
I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?
Hello,
First of all, we glad that xiaomi produced this completed package phone with budget price.
Lets share our photos and videos experiences using this lovely device.
Currently the downside that I found in video is lack shooting 24fps video and Filmic Pro wont open.
Feel free to share your photos guys
The phone is capable of taking great pictures with the Stock Camera if you have good light conditions like you see in my sample shots. They were taken with the main camera and just point and shoot. No fiddling around in the pro menu. However in low light I would recommend using the Google Camera port. The results are night and day compared to the stock camera and also selfies come out better with the Google camera.
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The phone is capable of taking great pictures with the Stock Camera if you have good light conditions like you see in my sample shots. They were taken with the main camera and just point and shoot. No fiddling around in the pro menu. However in low light I would recommend using the Google Camera port. The results are night and day compared to the stock camera and also selfies come out better with the Google camera.
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This was with stock camera or google camera app. Cause it looks a bit blurry.
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This was with stock camera or google camera app. Cause it looks a bit blurry.
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No it was the stock camera and tbh the pictures look fine to me.
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No it was the stock camera and tbh the pictures look fine to me.
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maybe it's some little hand movement while taking the shot, you should try to take a picture with the phone fixed so you see the real result.
Default camera with all 3 zooms
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maybe it's some little hand movement while taking the shot, you should try to take a picture with the phone fixed so you see the real result.
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I'm not a huge photographer. I really need the camera only for point and shoot scenarios and for that the cameras in this phone are more than enough. And for low light and selfies I just use Gcam.
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Default camera with all 3 zooms
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That's actually impressive that a phone can capture that much details!! I wonder how it looks with Gcam.
GCam result look better for me, even the Night Mode. Stock cam sometimes abit blur/miss focus, dunno why... but with GCam, the contras is more stunning than the stock.
Pro mode stock app can take longer shutter speed than Moment Pro Camera app that i have.
anyone tries the video? Moment Pro Camera app video still cannot shoot 24fps, Filmic Pro cannot open the app.
Any idea why the phone doesn't support 4k60 Video? Because it can take 1080p240 Video which uses the same bandwidth .
What version and settings of Gcam are you guys using?
Florian990107 said:
Any idea why the phone doesn't support 4k60 Video? Because it can take 1080p240 Video which uses the same bandwidth .
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The IMX582 doesn't take 4K60 but only 30 frames. If you go full HD then 60 fps is ok. It is the snapdragon 730 that can't and it's the only difference with the pro version (snap 855)
Here are from my "Redmi K20"
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What version and settings of Gcam are you guys using?
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the latest on that poat in this thread
MIUI Sky Filter can help changes dull sky to a blue sky ? awesome
FilmicPro team still working on issue for Mi9T, just got invitation beta tester, they say will update it soon.
Do you guys have autofocus issues while recording videos? Mine aren't smooth at all, few sporadic lags and a lot of "bounce" effect caused by the lense that fails to focus.
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Do you guys have autofocus issues while recording videos? Mine aren't smooth at all, few sporadic lags and a lot of "bounce" effect caused by the lense that fails to focus.
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yes, autofocus was or maybe still is broken, especially in 60fps mode - not sure how it is now on stable roms, as am using betas.
4K video are nowhere at 30 fps, more around 20fps.
I can see that EIS is working at 4K res on 9.8.8 beta
Honestly my Pocophone is much better in video recording than Mi9T.
Still photo wise - I have made many nice shots with pocophone in past, not a single one as nice with Mi9T so far...
pro mode, 32seg expó. beautiful night
Night mode stock cam.