The next device?? - Moto Z Questions & Answers

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My moto z will be die,I wan buy next device, maybe Moto g6 plus or moto x4,Which one is better?I mean development. The moto G6 plus support project treble??

rakee said:
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My moto z will be die,I wan buy next device, maybe Moto g6 plus or moto x4,Which one is better?I mean development. The moto G6 plus support project treble??
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You're talking about downgrading your device.
Any phone which is launched with Oreo has to support Treble. I doubt an OEM would add support for Treble to a budget device which launched without it.

The Marionette said:
You're talking about downgrading your device.
Any phone which is launched with Oreo has to support Treble. I doubt an OEM would add support for Treble to a budget device which launched without it.
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I know that,But the Snapdragon 630 chipset is enough for me,and moto g6 plus have 5.7 screen, support project treble,Better battery.

If you've already have Moto mods, the Z3 play is around the corner
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DayDream ready ?

Qualcomm confirmed that only SD821 will be compatible with Daydream view, but recently the Moto z(which has SD820) got upgraded to 7.0 nougat, and alongside that update, it's now compatible with the Daydream view VR, so.... Is there a chance the G5 will be compatible with Daydream anytime soon ?
ramqashou said:
Qualcomm confirmed that only SD821 will be compatible with Daydream view, but recently the Moto z(which has SD820) got upgraded to 7.0 nougat, and alongside that update, it's now compatible with the Daydream view VR, so.... Is there a chance the G5 will be compatible with Daydream anytime soon ?
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I guess very likely via inofficial ways i.e. xda but officially questionable. The moto z is still not officially regarded as compatible afaik.
lolmensch said:
I guess very likely via inofficial ways i.e. xda but officially questionable. The moto z is still not officially regarded as compatible afaik.
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The moto z is officially compatible after nougat update,
Verizon Moto Z and Z Force reportedly receiving Nougat update http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-moto-z-and-z-force-reportedly-receiving-nougat-update
ramqashou said:
The moto z is officially compatible after nougat update
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"Another Redditor who received the update confirms that it enables Daydream support, which would make the Moto Z and Z Force the first devices outside of Google's own Pixels to support the company's new VR platform"
Yeah I've seen that. Not sure whether this is intended as this info is not from an official source like moto themselves but lets hope for the best
So i've installed the 7.0 KDZ and the Daydream app+VR framework from google. I can open the app and browse stuff, but as soon as i want to go into VR mode it crashes.
Is LG G5 compatible with Daydream View on Nougat (7.0). I wouldn't thought so since LG is selling their VR headset,
According to an article about the T-Mobile G5 update, the screen needs to be AMOLED.
avenje said:
According to an article about the T-Mobile G5 update, the screen needs to be AMOLED.
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Source? Never heard of this...
androidpolice.com/2016/11/29/android-7-0-nougat-rolling-lg-g5-t-mobile/
It is also mentioned in the TMobile G5 forum too.
avenje said:
androidpolice.com/2016/11/29/android-7-0-nougat-rolling-lg-g5-t-mobile/
It is also mentioned in the TMobile G5 forum too.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/daydream-vr-ready-phones-specs-727780/
Here they say:
"Google doesn’t specifically demand an OLED display in the CDD, but the need for low latency and persistency probably means that only phones with OLED panels will make the cut. That could increase even further the demand for AMOLED displays, which is already on the rise and expected to boom in 2017."
Which is much more precise, and there are the full requirements, this confirms that if the G5's IPS display doesn't respect those specification it will never support daydream.
But it also says that the only soc supported is Snapdragon 821, beside that the Moto z supports daydream, at this point who knows xD

[MOTO G4/PLUS] Android O (8.0) Confirmed by Motorola/Lenovo

Greetings to all, I just saw great news that made my hair stand on end, incredible, here I will leave the list of mobile phones that will update to Android O.
Moto G4
Moto G4 Play
Moto G4 Plus
Moto Z
Moto Z Play
Moto Z Force
Moto G5
Moto G5 Plus
Moto G5S
Moto G5S Plus
Moto Z2
Moto Z2 Play
Moto Z2 Force
any official proof ?
JassyelZ said:
Greetings to all, I just saw great news that made my hair stand on end, incredible, here I will leave the list of mobile phones that will update to Android O.
Moto G4
Moto G4 Play
Moto G4 Plus
Moto Z
Moto Z Play
Moto Z Force
Moto G5
Moto G5 Plus
Moto G5S
Moto G5S Plus
Moto Z2
Moto Z2 Play
Moto Z2 Force
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No moto g4 plus will not update to android O,tell me have you saw a nougat update for moto g3 ,then howcome g4 will go android 8
It's just what he dreamed last night. Lenovo is not to be trusted with any updates, make no mistake, it's no Motorola.
SoNic67 said:
It's just what he dreamed last night. Lenovo is not to be trusted with any updates, make no mistake, it's no Motorola.
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Font by AMP: Motorola Is Confirm.
The Moto G3 did not update to nougat because at that time there were problems with Lenovo, but Motorola has already confirmed the Update to Android O, only remains to see if it is true and wait
As Moto X Play is getting 7.1.1 (Comes with 5.1), we can hope for 8.0. It is very probable!!
JassyelZ said:
Greetings to all, I just saw great news that made my hair stand on end, incredible, here I will leave the list of mobile phones that will update to Android O.
Moto G4 Plus
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Did the announcement provide a timeline?
Good news .................Shame they can't support the devices for warranty properly ......... worst company I have ever dealt with will never buy from moto or lenovo again!
tomolewis said:
Good news .................Shame they can't support the devices for warranty properly ......... worst company I have ever dealt with will never buy from moto or lenovo again!
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You're right..
Can u provide the like to that news?
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moto g4+ has capability to upgrade
rijazbinu said:
moto g4+ has capability to upgrade
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Every decent smartphone manufactured after 2014 would undoubtedly be capable, it's just that matter of what manufacturers think they should do, I don't think android o will be pushed to Moto g4 plus if Google will complete it and release after this September
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I don't think so.
JassyelZ said:
Greetings to all, I just saw great news that made my hair stand on end, incredible, here I will leave the list of mobile phones that will update to Android O.
Moto G4
Moto G4 Play
Moto G4 Plus
Moto Z
Moto Z Play
Moto Z Force
Moto G5
Moto G5 Plus
Moto G5S
Moto G5S Plus
Moto Z2
Moto Z2 Play
Moto Z2 Force
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There is no official announcement made? What is tour source of posting ?
pooniaprashant said:
Every decent smartphone manufactured after 2014 would undoubtedly be capable, it's just that matter of what manufacturers think they should do, I don't think android o will be pushed to Moto g4 plus if Google will complete it and release after this September
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I think it will lets see
Any official proof?
G4 play is getting Android 7.1.1 OTA right now, let's hope we get it soon
Enviado desde mi Moto G4 mediante Tapatalk
I need the 7.1.1 for just 1 reason, night light
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ozgurubuntu said:
Any official proof?
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moto has said that moto g4/plus will get android 7 and android 8 for moto g4 promotion time
Kumarranveer_RK said:
any official proof ?
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i think this is can be used for conformation ??
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ll-Get-Android-O-8-0-Oreo-update/td-p/3684721
ADPL said:
i think this is can be used for conformation ??
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ll-Get-Android-O-8-0-Oreo-update/td-p/3684721
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No, it cannot. Check the second post of the thread and you'll know why.

Newbie Planning To Get Moto Z

Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
Defaultnickname said:
It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
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Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
41LY45 said:
Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It's brand new if I get Verizon variant. I am not into photography that much. I am looking for a better Snapdragon processor with the good amount of RAM so that it still holds resell value in the future. If I opt for a mid-range device like Xiaomi or Huawei I am getting a good deal in 200$ but then it would not hold much resell values after 6-9 months.
PS. I see that you Malaysian too
Ampicillin said:
Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
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Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
Defaultnickname said:
Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
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Okay, I will check it out :good:

Project Treble Support?

Hello,
Do you think that when and if lg releases Android 8.0 it would have support for Project Treble? Possible it would over time be done through development be done if people are still willing to for this device.
8.0 official upgrade with treble support? You should pray for LG to release Oreo for G5. It would be a miracle if they releases official Oreo upgrade. LG many told that G5 sales were disappointment for them. As far as project treble is regarded, there is possibly no chance LG would be giving that for G5 (Even G6 and V30 seems to not have project treble support). And Project Treble can only be supported if OEM gives it support. Developer probably can't give any device that support as it includes low (hardware) level programming and requires exclusive resources.
Hey I wouldn't even be surprised if LG releases their G7 and V40 phones with Android Nougat for 'logistic reasons' to avoid including Treble. They abandoned the G3 AT&T, US Cellular, and Sprint variants especially. They killed nougat support for the G4 as well. Not to mention they neglected to fully address bootlooping phones (5x, G4, V10). My next phone definitely will not be LG, likely Huawei, Xiaomi, Oneplus, Leeco, or ASUS. This customer support thread gives hope that the G5 will update to Oreo and get Treble: https://reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/7fh1g7/will_lg_g5_receive_oreo_on_july_2018
If they do update the phone, it would be nice for them to update all variants this time around: H830, H850, H820, VS987, and RS988.

Getting lineageOS dev (@rahulsnair) a Moto G6 Plus

Hello everyone,
Thank You Everyone. We have purchased this device. ???
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g6-plus/how-to/1-preparing-to-unlock-bootloader-t3854240
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g6-plus/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-t3857238
The Moto G6 Plus has been getting custom ROMs thanks to our developer
@erfanoabdi (who does not even own this device).
Without him None of this would be possible.
We wanted to donate him this device, but sadly he doesn't have enough
time to support it. Instead he set us up with a Friend of his, Recognized
Developer @rahulsnair.
Rahul is a Recognized lineage developer who also has a large history with
Motorola Phones. Check out the first post in the thread where he'll list some of his work.
Moto G6 Plus has the attention of our developer @erfannobdi but has passed his Development
over to Recognized Developer @rahulsnair. Neither of whom Own this Device & Development
Can Not Continue Without this Device in the Hands of an developer.
I created a PayPal money pool to collect the needed money:
Http://paypal.me/pools/c/86Vae0UExE We're aiming for about $315.00 (current Amazon price)
Moto G6 Plus has the attention of our Developer @erfannobdi but has Passed his Development over
to Recognized Developer @rahulsnair. Neither of whom Own this Device & Development can Not continue without this Device in the hands of an developer.
Link to our telegram channel with our beloved developers = https://t.me/joinchat/GdyK5BB44joobth3umlAJA
Donations List (time of writing):
@isaac702: $15.00
Anonymous: Today $40.00
Anonymous: Today $10.00
Anonymous: Today $25.00
Michael Chow: Today $30.00
Thomass Ballenger: Today $10.00
Rolando Ordoz: Today $15.00
Erik Tunison Today. $10.00
Anonymous Today $15.00
I am now matching dollar for dollar.
Target =. $315.00 US
Received = $155.00
Total Received = $310..close enough to ORDER TODAY!!
Looking forward to contribute Moto G6 plus community.
Listing some of my previous works below.
Moto Z2 Play: Lineage OS
Moto G4 Plus: Lineage OS AOSCP
rahulsnair said:
Looking forward to contribute Moto G6 plus community.
Listing some of my previous works below.
Moto Z2 Play: Lineage OS
Moto G4 Plus: Lineage OS AOSCP
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What a great community! Love seeing tech enthusiast work together helping one another! As non-plus G6 user I'll definitely be contributing to this effort as it may lead to development for non-plus G6.
I'd also encourage other non-plus G6 users to contribute as well.
giant22000 said:
What a great community! Love seeing tech enthusiast work together helping one another! As non-plus G6 user I'll definitely be contributing to this effort as it may lead to development for non-plus G6.
I'd also encourage other non-plus G6 users to contribute as well.
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I'd also encourage other plus users to contribute to non-plus G6 donations as well....ya know, since we're crossing boarders and all ?... *Cheers* To bridging the gap!
Great to see this set up - thank you I've donated, due to the hope we see more custom ROM development for the G6 Plus (natively 64 bit OS and drivers from what I recall), and because of rahulsnair's excellent previous work on the G4 Plus Lineage OS official build. Here's hoping for a long life for the G6 Plus and the rest of the G6 family
Oh, Transaction ID: 6M673377FT333500V if you needed verification.
It's not Moto g6+ but I have an extra Moto g6 play that I'm literally willing to give to any developer.
I want to thank all of you guys. Without help collaboration between developers along with community would be near impossible.
Moto G6 Play
ninjakira said:
It's not Moto g6+ but I have an extra Moto g6 play that I'm literally willing to give to any developer.
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Is this device still available? @ninjakira
Moto G6 Play
ninjakira said:
It's not Moto g6+ but I have an extra Moto g6 play that I'm literally willing to give to any developer.
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Is this device still available? @ninjakira
I don't want our developer to give up on our development. Without this device in the hands of our developer, we are stuck. We have a ways to go on donations. Chip in a bit to continue our progress. It helps the entire community.
Our developer's are well known throughout this community helping all of us..
I look forward to what can potentially be accomplished with this line of Moto.
I would like to chip in for this however Paypal Money Pool's are not available in my country so I can't contribute to it. Is there another way I can contribute to this fund?
If I send a paypal transfer to @rahulsnair can to be associated with this?
ninjakira said:
It's not Moto g6+ but I have an extra Moto g6 play that I'm literally willing to give to any developer.
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That would be awesome! I just recently bought the "international" version from Amazon which I guess is the "brazillian" model XT1922-5 and need root on the latest firmware OPP27.91.87. The Play is about half the price of the Plus through Amazon. I'm willing to donate towards the Play device also.
Of course
isaac702 said:
I would like to chip in for this however Paypal Money Pool's are not available in my country so I can't contribute to it. Is there another way I can contribute to this fund?
If I send a paypal transfer to @rahulsnair can to be associated with this?
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Sure @isaac702! I know you've been trying to donate
To the project & would like your participation in this.
Refreshing to see the enthusiasm. ??
I have the phone for Moto g6 play. Just need the funds to send it out.
Ok
ninjakira said:
I have the phone for Moto g6 play. Just need the funds to send it out.
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I will pay the cost of shipping & handling. If @rahulsnair can accept it. Please correspond with him 1st.
Thank You @ninjakira!
New Invicta OS for moto g6 plus??! ?
I was under the impression that the Moto g6 plus worked flawlessly with GSIs, wheras the play and (g6) worked for the most part (except for some quirks with Bluetooth audio playback). Regardless I'll pitch 25$ twords fixing the gsi Bluetooth issue with ALI
nightjorge said:
New Invicta OS for moto g6 plus??! ?
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Invicta? What does that mean? Either way this is not a promised step forward. It has potential but is. Not a gautentee.
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Xplorer4x4 said:
Invicta? What does that mean? Either way this is not a promised step forward. It has potential but is. Not a gautentee.
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Invicta was a popular custom ROM built for the Moto G4/Plus, based on lineage os but patched specifically for the G4/plus; unfortunately, the developer, Silesh Nair, ceased development on the project some time ago. I'm guessing that member is hoping that a similar project may arise if lineage OS is fully operating on the G6 device family.
For reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/rom-t3693479
I can`t undestand - Moto G6 Plus is fully trebled device - why you don`t try GSI treble ROMs?

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