GPS receiver (Galileo) on Qualcomm Snapdragon (G965U1) - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I have G965U1 (USA unlocked) based on Qualcomm Snapdragon. I use GPSTest, Geo++ RINEX Logger, GPS Satellites Viewer apps. All doesn't show Galileo, BDS, QZSS satellites at all. I can see GPS and Glonass satellites only. I have S8+ nearby and S8+ shows Galileo satellites as well as others.
I checked https://www.usegalileo.eu/EN/inner.html#data=smartphone and it looks like S9+ should be supported. Also I had a conversation with Samsung Support and they told that G965U1 supports Galileo.
According to this article http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/samsung-galaxy-s9-teardown/ G965U contains Integrated in Qualcomm SDR845. However I have no information if SDR845 supports Galileo. And there is no possibility to contact with https://www.qualcomm.com/contact
The question is - why I can't see Galileo satellites on S9+ and is there are any other applications / system codes which can check Galileo support? I am not asking about dual band (L5 GNSS) support. I am asking why in S9+ we lost possibility to see Galileo?

Does anybody have fair SM-G965U1 (XAA region)? Could you check if you phone has possibility to get data from Galileo? YOu just need to install and run GPSTest or GPS Satellites Viewer app.

Seems repetition as with US unlocked Note 8 N950U1 (Snapdragon), which to my disappointment also cannot receive or use Galileo Satellites.
While specs did suppose it would.
My earlier question did not result in any answer

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Does Galileo satellites visible on your S9/S9+ phone?

Could you check if your phone has possibility to get data from Galileo satellites? You just need to install and run GPSTest or GPS Satellites Viewer app.
It would be great if you could answer with specifying phone model:
yes, I have 965F, baseband G965FXXU1BRE5
no, I have 965U1, baseband G965U1UES2ARF4
From my side I can confirm several issues with Galileo satellites on SM-G965U1 (Snapdragon) and one issue on SM-G965F (Exynos). I am trying to gather statistic to provide it to Samsung Support for future investigation.
I've attached a screenshot from the gpstest app.
I have a G965F with baseband version G965FXXU1BRF5.
Hope this is what you need.
no, I have 965U1, baseband G965U1UEU3ARH7
no, I have G965U baseband vs G965USQS3AR16
965U on ARI6 has no Galileo. Glonass and GPS are instant.
No. SMG960W baseband in the screenshot.
From the European GNSS agency:
Dear Michael, thank you for your question. In principle Canadians should already be able to use Galileo if they have a Galileo enabled receiver. The FCC waiver only affects users in the US and there is no equivalent waiver required for Canada. We hope to have answered your question! Have a nice day
just go interested in and test were succesfull ....with E1 works for me SM-G960F see me screen

Does the mido support Galileo GPS?

According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
iamfoolish said:
According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
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Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
Noter2017 said:
Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
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Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
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Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
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To save money.
It's just like with LTE bands. For every LTE band you use in your phone, you have to pay Qualcomm.
Enabling Galileo would have made the phone probably 0,05% more expensive and you probably have to put a Galileo chip on the mainboard which would have cost another 20 Cent.

Full 855 features.

Hi all,
I have been reading the Snapdragon 855 specifications:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-855-mobile-platform
And I can see there are some interesting features not activated in the MI9.
I am talking about WiFi-6, LTE Cat-20 speed, 4x4 MiMo, CA7, etc.
All of them related to data on air speed.
Some of them need specific hardware (basically antennas) but I wonder if some of them could be activated modifying the Kernel and ROM.
For example, the Galaxy 10 has same 855 processor but has these features activated.
I guess Xiaomi has left some features off thinking on future models.
Thanks
Probably waiting to release an upgraded version of the Mi 9 with 5G capabilities
Not 5G, because MI9 uses X24 Modem, not the newest X50.
Most likely on the MI10
But some other features should be doable to get.

BE2026 - Dual Band Galileo?

Anyone able to verify if the BE2026 only supports single frequency Galileo or does it actually receive both E1 & E5A?
Oneplus’s specs state dual frequency GPS while not specifically calling out if Galileo is dual frequency.
What is worrying is that specs for the Oneplus 8’s and the 7T do list support for both frequency bands.
Been looking for a moderately priced Android phone that supports GPS and Galileo dual frequency reception for outdoor activities.
Well, after some further research, it appears that it does....(provided there is isn’t some weird hardware omission between the various models)
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329174087231442944
Be nice to have an Android device again after a few years of iOS. Excited to see what has changed.

Question No Dual Band GNSS reception on Xperia 1 III

While using location services on my 1 III I noticed that I am not able to receive any L5 GPS or E5a Galileo Satellites with my 1 III (XQ-BC52 FW 61.0.A.15.35 Android 11). Dual Band GNSS is very useful for improving accuracy in challenging terrains or situations (e.g. using location services in a train), which is explained here https://www.xda-developers.com/dual...location-feature-your-phone-probably-missing/. The lack of Dual Band GNSS for 1 III is suprising because not only do almost all High End Smartphones since 2020 come with it, the Xperia 1 III is even listed as being Dual Band Galileo Capable on the official European Union Galileo Info Page, a reliable source (see https://www.usegalileo.eu/EN/inner.html#data=smartphone or attached screenshot below). I've attached screenshots of GPS Data, GPSTest and Geo++ RINEX Logger, which are tools that can verify L5/E5a Band Reception on capable devices through the Android API. I tested outdoors in Germany on a cloudless sky, but wasnt able to catch a single L5 GPS/E5a Galileo Satellite in various scenarios.
My Question is if you guys can confirm this behavior for your Xperia 1 III (Use the Mentioned Tools from Play Store), preferably on Android 12 (I didn't update yet due to the incompatibility of Gravity Box with A12, maybe Sony added support for Dual Band via the Android 12 Firmware Update). If the stock firmware isn't able to process L5/E5a satellites (judging by the EU listing, the hardware is dual band capable and certified), maybe a modding guru can provide a guide for it. I have Root Access on my device and I am willed to test stuff if needed to make it work.
Thank you all very much in advance.
Best regards
The US model doesn't show dual bands either. I guess Sony's GPS is like their 5G - technically present but incomplete.
I have the same model as you, XQ-BC52, running the latest software A 12 61.1.A.7.35.
Getting the same results as you with GPS test. Have not tried the others (running Google free so it's a pain it it's not on f-droid).
Please post if you find a work around.
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