According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
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According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
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Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
Noter2017 said:
Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
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Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
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Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
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To save money.
It's just like with LTE bands. For every LTE band you use in your phone, you have to pay Qualcomm.
Enabling Galileo would have made the phone probably 0,05% more expensive and you probably have to put a Galileo chip on the mainboard which would have cost another 20 Cent.
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Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
you need the Note 3 Pro Special Edition (aka Kate) which has a snapdragon 650. It's also known as the International edition but that may depend on the seller.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371103.html
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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There are two versions of Snapdragon phones, kenzo and kate. Get the kate version, available at Geekbuying.
Link already provided in this thread.
BobSlob said:
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
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My carrier supports 1700/2100 for AWS, so that's the big one I need. I don't see it listed anywhere (1700 listed under LTE). I'm not sure if they're the same or not. I'm ready to pull the trigger, just wanna make sure it works =D
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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No, I was about to pull the trigger on one (and still fighting with myself) but decided to wait until the Redmi Note 4 comes out. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which is still a pretty good phone so I'm not in a huge rush.
Im fairly sure Snapdragon 625 supports it, so why it doesn't work?
Can this be enabled in custom ROM's?
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/625
Wi-Fi Standards
802.11ac Wave 2
802.11n
802.11a/b/g
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I noticed this today as well. Really surprised. I'm connected to 5Ghz 802.11n no problem though. I wonder if it's possible to inject blobs from another SD625 device and unlock 802.11ac.
Edit: Did some quick research. The Asus Zenfone 3, Samsung Galaxy C7, Lenovo P2 and Oppo R9S all have the SD625 and have 802.11ac, but the Huawei Nova, Moto Z Play and Moto G5 Plus also have the SD625 but only 802.11n. Weird. Our Redmi Note 4X can definitely use dual band though, so the antenna is there.
Yup, probably cost cutting by Xiaomi. (like Qualcomm Quick Charge)
Is there an answer to the AC question? Can it be unlocked by software, or is AC disabled in hardware on the redmi note 4 snapdragon?
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Is there an answer to the AC question? Can it be unlocked by software, or is AC disabled in hardware on the redmi note 4 snapdragon?
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I would like to know the answer as well, especially for Redmi 4X.
Good day, everyone
TL;DR - WTK Model Numbers for Snapdragon 625 [Note 4] & [Note 4x]
So far;
2016100 = Redmi Note 4 4Gb/64G (credit: @sachin n)
2016101 = Redmi Note 4X 3Gb/32G (credit: @Delkapone)
2016102 =Redmi Note 4 3GB/32GB (credit: @krasCGQ)
I am about to finalise the purchase of a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 OR 4X.
I am trying to find ONLY the MODEL NUMBERS for;
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 - 4gb RAM, 64gb storage (Snapdragon 625 Variant; might be 2016100 or 2016102, need confirmed)
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X - 4gb RAM, 64gb storage (Snapdragon 625 Variant)
Some threads have said the SD 625's of both the 4 and 4x and identical, yet others go on to state physical differences in feature/hardware placements.
I just want to ensure that I get the Snapdragon 625 version, I do not want to end up wit a device that has the Mediatek CPU.
P.S.
Please don't turn the question into an argument for the Mediatek Variant and/or the 3GB models and your experience with them, I've already decided on the Snapdragon 624 4gb/64gb and I'm just trying to ensure I get the correct product.
I understand that the model numbers may vary slightly, possibly dependent on region and storage configuration.
I've looked for the questions/answers in the forum and others as well and can't seem to get a straight idea.
Thank you everyone, any relevant constructive help will be greatly appreciated.
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 - 4gb RAM, 64gb storage (Snapdragon 625 Variant; might be 2016100 or 2016102, need confirmed)
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I've 2016102 model, but it comes with 3GB RAM & 32GB storage instead.
EDIT:
FPC fingerprint.
Sent from my Redmi 3 using XDA Labs
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I've 2016102 model, but it comes with 3GB RAM & 32GB storage instead.
Sent from my Redmi 3 using XDA Labs
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Thanks for the response and clarification
I've 2016101 model..
Redmi note 4x, black matte, 3Gb/32Gb, with goodix fp and Samsung sensor on back and front camera.
I've 2016100.
Indian variant of Redmi-note-4 snapdragon.
FP : Goodix
4GB /64GB Black.
BTW, thanks @krasCGQ bish ?
Double post, sorry :c
SD 625 is octa-core while Mediatak Helios X20 is deca-core. Some shop list it, I think it's a good indicator to buy the right version.
And I also read something about that the differnt SD 625 versions have difference only in supported network frequency.
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SD 625 is octa-core while Mediatak Helios X20 is deca-core. Some shop list it, I think it's a good indicator to buy the right version.
And I also read something about that the differnt SD 625 versions have difference only in supported network frequency.
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Thank you for responding.
I do know the SD625 is an octa-core vs the deca-core of the Mediatek version.
I've already decided on the SD 625.
The problem I am having is that I was told in passing that the NOTE 4 SD625 (4GB/64GB) is identical to the NOTE 4X SD625 (4GB/64GB).
I am just trying to find a way or confirm if there are physical differences or not.
They are identical, the only difference is that the 4x doesn't have b20(800 MHz) band...But some shops
report It in the specification, I think it's an error...
I don't remember where i red this, but another difference is in the Quality of construction that in 4x is lower than 4 ( I don't know if it's true)
The Redmi Note4x is the global (or international) version. It has 4g lte radio bands that will work on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the U.S. The Redmi Note 4 will not work on any 4g lte band in the U.S. It will work on 3g band 1900 which is supported by AT&T and T-Moibile but you can forget about 4g lte in the U.S. with this version. The 4X was released about 10 months after the 4 version was and there are some hardware differences because of that (different brand sensors and camera's) but don't confuse the the different SOC options (MTK or Snap) with one version or the other. You can find both of those SOC options on either version. Even though there are some brand differences in the internal hardware the X of the 4X version is simply meant to signify that it is a global use phone with additional radio bands that the 4 version does not have. BTW, the IR blaster is not in the same position so if you are buying a case or other accessories, buy the case that is specifically for the 4 or the 4X version.
This comparison chart came directly from Xiaomi....
The Differences
Redmi Note 4
Bluetooth 4.1
Network Bands
4G FDD-LTE B3 / B5
4G TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDM 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz
Redmi Note 4x
Bluetooth 4.2
Network Bands
4G FDD-LTE B1 / B3 / B5 / B7
4G TDD-LTE B38 / B39 / B40 / B41 ( 2555-2655MHz)
TD-SCDMA B34 / B39
3G WCDMA B1 / B2 / B5 / B8 (850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz)
CDMA2000 / 1X BC0
2G GSM B2 / B3 / B5 / B8 (850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz)
The Note 4 is made in India and the Note 4x is made in China. The differences in bands on the chart above reflects the needed bands to work in China. Since they posted this chart they have also added lte bands that work in the U.S. (band 4 and whatever AT&T uses) but did not update the chart to reflect that. All newer Note 4X's are global 4G capable though.
I'm in need of a replacement for my current phone, since it just can't handle modern workloads anymore. Now I noticed this phone on AliExpress and I'm wondering if it's worth buying.
I don't need that much, mostly just being able to run WhatsApp, LinkedIn and a few light apps. Although maybe some multimedia would be nice. I like speed over beauty. And one feature I find pretty much essential is the ability to record my calls.
I notice a whole bunch of different Note 4's on Ali. Two different CPU's, both 8-core and one 10-core variant, 2/3/4G RAM and up to 64G storage capacity. Note 4 and Note 4X. Reading some of the other threads I should go for a SnapDragon, and one can never have enough RAM. But most of those threads are a bit older, maybe the development has opened up more and this changed?
My previous experience with a phone directly from China wasn't the greatest, with battery calibration errors and some apps that just wouldn't install. So I could use some advice here.
Can this phone do what I need it to do (with or without a custom ROM)? Can it be rooted? Which model should I get?
I appreciate any tips and answers you can give me.
Check the following points before buying:
- the 4 / 4X differences are 0, the only important difference is about the chipset
- get the version with Snapdragon chipset, MediaTek is crap
- check the 4G bands available if they're compatible with your country (mainly it's all about band 20)
- choose from the 3GB RAM / 32GB storage version or the 4GB / 64GB
Usually they call 4X the Snapdragon version and 4 the MediaTek one, but this difference is used mainly for identifying the ROMs. Because in reality there are 4X with MediaTek and 4 with Snapdragon. And on the phone box there is written always 4, never 4X.
Then unlock bootloader and install Xiaomi.eu ROM to get all the features you want. It's a lighter and optimized version of stock ROM.
Check if your carrier is using B4 or B20 LTE band. Redmi Note 4 Global support this bands (it's international version of the phone), Redmi Note 4x doesn't support them (it's Asia variant).
Always make sure you buy the variant with Snapdragon 625 chip (Mido).
So that would be a Global Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 with 4/64GiB based on a 8-core Snapdragon S625 CPU?
No surprises? I won't get apps that won't install because they don't recognize the phone? Or a boot loader that's too new to unlock, preventing me from installing a new ROM?
And there are ROMs out there that support call recording?
Looks like the main carriers in NL will support it.
Did I forget anything?
And for the current owners: know of a good flip case or at least something that will keep the scratches off?
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So that would be a Global Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 with 4/64GiB based on a 8-core Snapdragon S625 CPU?
No surprises? I won't get apps that won't install because they don't recognize the phone? Or a boot loader that's too new to unlock, preventing me from installing a new ROM?
And there are ROMs out there that support call recording?
Looks like the main carriers in NL will support it.
Did I forget anything?
And for the current owners: know of a good flip case or at least something that will keep the scratches off?
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Yes you will be fine, just confirm twice before buying that the phone has Snapdragon 625 chip and that it does support B20 band (800MHz), it will guarantee that it is Redmi Note 4 Global variant you absolutely need it since you are from Europe.
Call recording is available even on stock ROM.
I have G965U1 (USA unlocked) based on Qualcomm Snapdragon. I use GPSTest, Geo++ RINEX Logger, GPS Satellites Viewer apps. All doesn't show Galileo, BDS, QZSS satellites at all. I can see GPS and Glonass satellites only. I have S8+ nearby and S8+ shows Galileo satellites as well as others.
I checked https://www.usegalileo.eu/EN/inner.html#data=smartphone and it looks like S9+ should be supported. Also I had a conversation with Samsung Support and they told that G965U1 supports Galileo.
According to this article http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/samsung-galaxy-s9-teardown/ G965U contains Integrated in Qualcomm SDR845. However I have no information if SDR845 supports Galileo. And there is no possibility to contact with https://www.qualcomm.com/contact
The question is - why I can't see Galileo satellites on S9+ and is there are any other applications / system codes which can check Galileo support? I am not asking about dual band (L5 GNSS) support. I am asking why in S9+ we lost possibility to see Galileo?
Does anybody have fair SM-G965U1 (XAA region)? Could you check if you phone has possibility to get data from Galileo? YOu just need to install and run GPSTest or GPS Satellites Viewer app.
Seems repetition as with US unlocked Note 8 N950U1 (Snapdragon), which to my disappointment also cannot receive or use Galileo Satellites.
While specs did suppose it would.
My earlier question did not result in any answer