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Hey guys.
I have been a user of an LG G2 for the past three years and I must say it has served me amazingly well. It still functions awesomely but the wear and tear of the years is starting to become more apparent lately, so I'm thinking it's time for a new one.
Since I am not able to buy a flagship phone right now, I have to resort to a budget choice.
So what would be the best phone under 300€? I am based in Europe btw.
Currently I am in between the ZTE Axon 7 Mini, LG G5 SE, P8 Lite 2017, Honor 8 and Honor 6X, but any other suggestions will of course be appreciated.
Since the G2 is such an old phone, I can imagine that any one of these phones will feel like an upgrade in terms of performance, so what I value most right now is 1) the camera and 2) general build quality.
So basically, which is the overall best of the budget phones that has the best camera out of the bunch?
I'm leaning towards the Honor 6X because of its camera. What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
giorgos123 said:
Hey guys.
I have been a user of an LG G2 for the past three years and I must say it has served me amazingly well. It still functions awesomely but the wear and tear of the years is starting to become more apparent lately, so I'm thinking it's time for a new one.
Since I am not able to buy a flagship phone right now, I have to resort to a budget choice.
So what would be the best phone under 300€? I am based in Europe btw.
Currently I am in between the ZTE Axon 7 Mini, LG G5 SE, P8 Lite 2017, Honor 8 and Honor 6X, but any other suggestions will of course be appreciated.
Since the G2 is such an old phone, I can imagine that any one of these phones will feel like an upgrade in terms of performance, so what I value most right now is 1) the camera and 2) general build quality.
So basically, which is the overall best of the budget phones that has the best camera out of the bunch?
I'm leaning towards the Honor 6X because of its camera. What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello, we already have two threads for this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1620179
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1846277
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Took the words right out of my mouth lol.
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Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
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Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
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Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
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Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It's brand new if I get Verizon variant. I am not into photography that much. I am looking for a better Snapdragon processor with the good amount of RAM so that it still holds resell value in the future. If I opt for a mid-range device like Xiaomi or Huawei I am getting a good deal in 200$ but then it would not hold much resell values after 6-9 months.
PS. I see that you Malaysian too
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Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
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Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
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Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
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Okay, I will check it out :good:
Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
Flagship is what you are asking for, you should decide upon your needs because it is unfair to put the devices you mentioned in a comparison.
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Flagship is what you are asking for, you should decide upon your needs because it is unfair to put the devices you mentioned in a comparison.
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If it were SPECS differences that I'm looking for then yes but I'm looking for not SPECS but something else (I wrote it in the topic).
Why is it unfair? Is it because You think that POCO is a flagship?
But Thank YOU very much for a reply sir!
Probably A2
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Probably A2
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Dude, really?
I'm a bit shocked cause in Europe the sales of A1 and A2 with all it's variants were nothing compered to Redmi Note 5 (Pro)
Thanks for answering but please tell my why would You pick A2 and which variant?
get the poco, or the note 5 (whyred). But I'd suggest poco because it's better, newer and more popular.
This forum is for Redmi 5 plus (vince)
Also. Redmi series are midrange devices with lower prices, poco is a flagship device with a midrange price. If you can afford poco, go for it. People are crazy about it now.
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get the poco, or the note 5 (whyred). But I'd suggest poco because it's better, newer and more popular.
This forum is for Redmi 5 plus (vince)
Also. Redmi series are midrange devices with lower prices, poco is a flagship device with a midrange price. If you can afford poco, go for it. People are crazy about it now.
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I am considering POCO but imagine that in Europe my native tribe has nowhere POCO in mall shops or dedicated electroncis shops. The only way to get it is by ordering online (not from China).
However, the RN5 (whyred) is widely spread in every shop. The online shops have always some percantage off the price of that phone. The sales of this model is beating every sale that both kind of shops had and thay can't keep up with supplying the overwhelming demand. So I think because RN5 (whyred) is so popular that it will get much more custom roms than any other phone. For POCO is to early to see cause they don't have it in local stores.
nah. devs will soon move on from RN5. Most custom rom devs are from Asia anyway so availability in Europe is irrelevant. Just check their XDA sections for both and see.
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nah. devs will soon move on from RN5. Most custom rom devs are from Asia anyway so availability in Europe is irrelevant. Just check their XDA sections for both and see.
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Did I understand You correctly?
The current situation is that in XDA's CUSTOM ROM section of RN5 (whyred) has less custom roms than the XDA's CUSTOM ROM section of POCO?
Here are some informations from xiaomi India official Twitter
https://twitter.com/RedmiIndia/status/1147030045216526336?s=09
yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
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yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
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I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
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I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
I think that will be named as anticipated K20 Pro. but they were advertising as k20 pro so who knows. Im just sure that software development wise they'll share the same stuff
I'll wait for reviews from early adopters. I have never owned a Xiaomi device before and I am only inclined towards this because of its AMOLED panel. If the quality isn't as good as OnePlus panels or if the device has issues itself like people faced touch issues on Poco F1, I might skip it completely.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
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They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
SozzR said:
They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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Thanks again for the quality information
Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
Funk Wizard said:
Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I bought it on mi website
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I HAVe just read the t&c and it says atleast incase of purchase from mi website that only the people with the access pass will be able to purchase the phone on 17th and also that if you dont complete the purchase or the validity has expired your money will be refunded
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I don't think that's the case. AFAIK only people with Alpha Sale pass will be able to order a unit on the launch date 17 and 18 and all the others can do so post 23rd onwards. If this is the case everyone with the alpha pass should be able to secure a unit without any flash sale.
Let's see and wait for the launch on the 17th, I'll share my experience if I am able to get my hands on the pro :laugh:
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It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
ganeshp said:
Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
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Yes it is too annoying. I bought a Redmi note 7 recently, i feel i have no control over my phone. MIUI is a s**+. This is my first time using a MIUI. You have can't even debloat your phone, unless you root it/install TWRP in it. You have to disable ads everywhere in each app individually, but still ads pop up. I faced problem of even changing default browser, music ,video player etc... Its messed up. You better stay on pure android UI device (like that of one plus/android one phones), that will make your life peaceful. I need to switch to google pixel rom in my phone.
Doge199 said:
It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
I booked K20 128gb 6gb varient will be getting on. 23rd
Doge199 said:
Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
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Samsung just released A80 with Snappy730G and the price is an eye-watering INR 48K. That's ridiculous.
I am sure Poco F2 won't come this year. If it does, it'd be with a 730G or 730 chipset. No way Xiaomi is releasing a competitor to K20 Pro from one of their own sub-brands.
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If anyone has an Indian K20 Pro unit, I would appreciate if you can post your initial impressions and IF this still comes with Xiaomi ads.
Hello All,
I am planning to buy oneplus 7t pro in upcoming sale. Is it worth going for? How is the custom from development support for this device ?
I know its already a year old device but if development support is good then I can expect at least till Android 13 for this device.
How is the device itself first ?
HatRiGt said:
Hello All,
I am planning to buy oneplus 7t pro in upcoming sale. Is it worth going for? How is the custom from development support for this device ?
I know its already a year old device but if development support is good then I can expect at least till Android 13 for this device.
How is the device itself first ?
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Custom rom support are not that great for 7tp.....but you will get android 13 for sure.. great phone ..better than op 8... only problem is less better camera than 8 series...and custom rom support is dying day by day... it's very unfortunate that Google is trying to take control over android security.. that's why 7t and 7t pro has no twrp with the ability to decrypt data in twrp recovery.so now it's you who has to take decision...
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I bought the same model just a week ago because it was a great value today UNDER 600 dollars and it ticked all the boxes for what I basically wanted. I have a P30 Pro as well, and while I'd say it gets better battery life overall and that the camera can take better shots in SOME conditions, the gap isn't really that great. Most of the shots I've A/B with random people have chosen the OP7T Pro shots over the P30 Pro. It does get better brightness at night, but the details are lacking and seem over-processed. The P30 Pro definitely has a faster shutter.
After much deliberation I just received mines yesterday. I had a Mi 9 SE which was ghost touching on me so I had to change over asap. Figured I'd give OnePlus another go, I'd owned the one, the two, and now the 7t pro.
Really happy with the decision so far, just need to get used the massive size. Runs kinda hot tho, but that just maybe because I've been using it quite intensely for the last day or 2.
I'm happy with the decision.
I am also thinking of buying the 7T PRO or the Redmi K300 Pro ZOOM edition.
I am currently using a S8 PLUS and I would like a better camera.
I was supposed to get the S20 FE 5G but in my country Samsung only released the Exynos variant.
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I am also thinking of buying the 7T PRO or the Redmi K300 Pro ZOOM edition.
I am currently using a S8 PLUS and I would like a better camera.
I was supposed to get the S20 FE 5G but in my country Samsung only released the Exynos variant.
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You'll probably get more software updates with the OnePlus. That's what tipped it for me.
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You'll probably get more software updates with the OnePlus. That's what tipped it for me.
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A better camera is more important to me than future software updates.
Would you still recommend the 7T Pro over the K30 PRO zoom edition?
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A better camera is more important to me than future software updates.
Would you still recommend the 7T Pro over the K30 PRO zoom edition?
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Haven't seen that model or used it, so I couldn't comment, but I can compare it to the P30 Pro I own. I'd say that the P30 camera is better in 70 percent of photo scenarios, but it does lack detail often. The P30 tends to over-sharpen images and smooth faces too much, even without portrait features on, whereas the OP7TPro does tend to have more noise in low-light, but produces a more accurate rendering of color and better fine detail, ironically.
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Custom rom support are not that great for 7tp.....but you will get android 13 for sure.. great phone ..better than op 8... only problem is less better camera than 8 series...and custom rom support is dying day by day... it's very unfortunate that Google is trying to take control over android security.. that's why 7t and 7t pro has no twrp with the ability to decrypt data in twrp recovery.so now it's you who has to take decision...
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Which device would you consider to have the best custom development/ROM support?
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Which device would you consider to have the best custom development/ROM support?
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Oneplus One! ?
I moved back to 7T Pro from OP8. It was a great decision in my opinion. I hated the punch hole. the 7T Pro checks all the boxes for me.
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HTC HD2 had em all lol
I'm also looking to buy a 7T Pro but I would like McLaren international edition for use in the US. Any one have any suggestion on where to get one in the US? If I was to buy a CN edition off Alibaba could I easily flash it to the international rom?
Planning to buy it also because it has nice hardware (no hole on the screen), and supports LineageOS.
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If you want a device just like the 7T pro but with far more rom support as well as extended custom development, then Id go for the 7 Pro. Both are pretty much the same device, except youd be more satisifed with 7 Pro as it has a much larger community surrounding it and there's alot of things you can mod on the device without having to deal with the new android 10 dynamic partitioning that made TWRP not fully functional on the 7T pro
Wifi + bluetooth unstable connection
I bought the phone too.
So far everything is fine - except wifi stability issues (seems to be affected by bluetooth being on).
I don't understand how this still can be a thing. I read posts about this model having this problem a year ago.
How is this possible?
I did update the phone to the 10.0.12.HD01BA and tried all the suggested solutions (reseting network settings, switching airplane mode on and off.... one thing I haven't tried is factory reset) yet the problem still persist, it's occassional, but.... I'm still kind of disappointed.
For my part I had the 7pro and now I have the 7T pro and the 2 are very good ... I must say that I still have some frustration from the 7t pro, less good battery and twrp which is not 100% functional which gave me some headaches for the rest it is like the 7pro the best device i have had, for those who wonder why i got the 7 pro and the 7t pro? Between the 2 I decided to try the samsung note 10 plus ... but what a bad choice lolll and I had already sold my 7 pro so I wanted to try the 7T pro.
I have just bought OP7TPro today. It runs like a champ. Only not so good thing is camera. But GCam blew me way. Definitely a great buy if the price is right.