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Question for you guys!
Brief background:
I live in MN, USA and currently have a Nexus 6 on the Verizon network (works great as it's unlocked).
Just got a SIM card on T-Mobile (the $30 a month plan). Also works great on the Nexus 6.
What I am hoping to do is use the T-mobile SIM for Data and the Verizon SIM for voice calls. By looking at the frequency bands, it "looks" like this should work. What do you guys think? I am planning on installing some kinda of custom ROM on the 5X also. Something like CM12/13 if possible.
Not sure but with Verizon, I am assuming that the Honor 5X will only be able to use the WCDMA frequencies on Band 1.
I cannot post external links, so I've taken some screenshots of the frequencies and Bands.
Thanks!
setipollux said:
Question for you guys!
Brief background:
I live in MN, USA and currently have a Nexus 6 on the Verizon network (works great as it's unlocked).
Just got a SIM card on T-Mobile (the $30 a month plan). Also works great on the Nexus 6.
What I am hoping to do is use the T-mobile SIM for Data and the Verizon SIM for voice calls. By looking at the frequency bands, it "looks" like this should work. What do you guys think? I am planning on installing some kinda of custom ROM on the 5X also. Something like CM12/13 if possible.
Not sure but with Verizon, I am assuming that the Honor 5X will only be able to use the WCDMA frequencies on Band 1.
I cannot post external links, so I've taken some screenshots of the frequencies and Bands.
Thanks!
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I don't think the phone supports CDMA at all, I would be surprised if Verizon will work
Verizon wont work, it's CDMA not GSM.
Doesn't work very well on tmobs either. I don't know if I have a bad device, but the signal is horrible compared to other devices (S7e, HTC 10 and Galaxy Prime)
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Does anyone get VoLTE working on O2 or Three in the UK? Does the phone show any VoLTE icon on the notification bar or switch in settings?
Hi,
I've just got a Mate 10 (standard) ALP-L29 8..0.0.128 (C363) running on Three UK
Sadly neither Volte nor VoWifi work with Three
I'm hoping a rebrand to an European version might make it work, but am at a loss to know which version is possible and if it will even work.
Any advice appreciated
thanks
Which region do you buy the device from?
Bought from Wonda in Hong Kong who rebranded it to the above
It does not work on mine either. I am using ALP-AL00 8.0.0.126(SP2C00).
I am using ALP-AL00 8.0.0.126(SP2C00) and not working either.
I'm in the UK. on the three network running BLA-L09 8.0.0.124 (c782)... sometimes it pops up in the top left corner "Wi-Fi calling" ..... is this the same thing ??
evantkh said:
Does anyone get VoLTE working on O2 or Three in the UK? Does the phone show any VoLTE icon on the notification bar or switch in settings?
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If you mean wifi calling, I think it may be working on my O2 branded Mate 10 pro. Had to enable in the O2 app first.
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No, VoLTE means not dropping to 3G when making calls. Does the signal drop to 3G when making calls without WiFi?
Does the signal drop to 3G when making calls without WiFi?
When making a call with three it automatically drops to 3g , I do get WiFi calling when my network signal is weak
On Three UK on Mate 10 pro. Not bought from Three. However on Vodafone VoLTE works... 3 claims ThreeinTouch app supports Supervoice/VoLTE though no options appear for me. Send a like and/or comment here on this tweet to Three UK. https://twitter.com/AminYacarEvaday/status/953734315560579073
And on here
https://twitter.com/AminYacarEvaday/status/953735074264043521
Thanks
Just got a Dual SIM Mate 10 Pro, and I have VoLTE working on Three UK.
I did a fair bit of research in to VoLTE / Wifi Calling (lots of lurking on these forms) before I got it, as access to SuperVoice would have been a dealbreaker if I couldn't get it (and other networks' full 4g spectrum).
It's worth understanding how Three currently structure their spectrum in the UK. I did a lot of head scratching when I used to have an iPhone, as despite Three texting me to say I was in a SuperVoice 4g area, my calls mostly dropped down to 3g.
Three have lots of high frequency 3g and 4g spectrum. They also have some low frequency 4g spectrum (band 20, 800Mhz), but there's a bit less of that.
Three's SuperVoice (VoLTE) only runs on the low frequency 4g 800mhz. The high frequency 4g does not carry VoLTE.
So - if you're on the high frequency 4g band (which is set by Three to be the first choice for locking on to) and you make a call, you need to get bumped to another band. If you're in range of 3g, and get so much as a whiff of it, it'll put you on that. If you can't get any 3g, but you can get lower frequency 4g (it travels further / deeper), it'll allow you on to that band and then - and only then - will you be able to make a VoLTE call.
Maybe one day Three will open up their higher frequency 4g to VoLTE if they restructure their spectrum, but I speculate that for the moment with the spectrum structured as it is, there isn't the justification for taking up high frequency 4g bandwidth with VoLTE call traffic, if there's increasingly unused 3g capacity sat alongside it. If however a phone is out of range of the high frequency 3g signal, the phone can use the low frequency 4g VoLTE for calling and, as Three put it, 'banish the indoor blackspots'.
My Mate 10 Pro is working in exactly the same way as my old iPhone used to - in that if there's any 3g whatsoever, it uses that for calls, often dropping to 3g from the higher frequency 4g (that doesn't allow VoLTE). It's only if you're somewhere where there's no 3g but there is 800mhz 4g, that you can use VoLTE. That makes testing it really hard! I've only had the Mate 10 for 2 days, and managed 2 VoLTE calls in a rural location. Near home I don't see VoLTE at all as there's very decent high frequency 3g coverage.
I also get the Wifi calling option in settings, however I haven't tested that yet, as I haven't been anywhere in the 2 days of phone ownership where mobile reception has been poor and there's been accessible Wifi to fall back on. There is no VoLTE toggle in settings, nor an icon in the status bar - the phone just quietly made a call over 4g (checked by using the 4g icon next to the signal bars, and using the settings>system>about phone>status>network menu whilst on a call to see whether the mobile network type remained 4g).
I'm hoping to test VoLTE on other networks shortly using my 2nd sim slot, however as the networks only allow VoLTE on contract it's not just a case of trying it out with a free PAYG SIM, unfortunately.
In terms of my phone, I ordered a Mate 10 Pro Dual sim Asian/International version (C636), that didn't seem to work with VoLTE (although as above it's hard to test with Three). If I'd have known that I could have bought a single SIM UK version and flashed new firmware to get dual sim I would have done to get a warranty, but when buying it I incorrectly thought maybe the hardware was different and I need 2 sims... I rebranded it to the Euro version (C432) and flashed Euro firmware, and I've since managed two VoLTE calls on Three UK. I'm hoping that other networks work as well... In hope of it doing so is partly why I bought the phone, and there are lots of reviews (that smell a bit of being paid for) that state Huawei has worked with networks to pre-install the VoLTE / Wifi Calling settings in to the Euro firmware.
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The Pro was a Three exclusive so even if you buy a unbranded one it downloads Three firmware which allows Volte, the standard Mate 10 isn't a Three handset so wont have Volte
I don't think the unbranded phone will download Three firmware if it is on different generic firmware such as the AL00 model. However, VoLTE does have GSMA standard and iPhone has made VoLTE work around the world no matter where you buy the device.
That means Huawei is not actually showing the VoLTE toggle on Three. Based on the configuration files on the firmware of the ALP-AL00 model, I think not showing the VoLTE toggle is happening on O2 UK as well but I never get it working.
@evantkh
Yes, it seems that way, I made a few more calls over Three's 800mhz VoLTE yesterday so it's definitely working in line with Three's priority settings, there's just no toggle or icon. I also monitored using the LTE Monitor app to check the band and in all cases I was on 800mhz before making the call, maybe as it was the only band it could receive. I'm quite impressed with how seamlessly it works.
I don't have the same region as you, have you tried a rebrand and firmware flash to Euro? Mine didn't seem to work on the non Euro version, with the limited amount of testing I did before I flashed Euro firmware.
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Also, I can confirm WiFi calling works as well on Three. I saw that working yesterday, briefly.
I'm interested to know that you haven't seen VoLTE working on O2 - I was probably going to get my 2nd sim with them.
@Thasscas44
It's not worth re-branding and firmware flashing to Euro.
1. The hardware of AL00 model and L29 model are different at least the bands and possibly the security chip as well.
2. I will lose Huawei Pay functionality for NFC mobile payments in China.
3. I will only use O2 for a few months more as I am going to leave the UK in a few months.
Sounds fair enough, I changed region of my BLA L29 but not model. I definitely wouldn't have wanted to lose other functionality.
I've seen people say they've changed from an L09 to L29 but not the A00.
Err they don't stock the standard Mate 10 so the branded firmware doesn't exist
Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here.
I had a moto e4 plus but I'm ditching it as I've bought a redmi 5 plus 4 /64 (I believe) from eglobal.
The terrible thing is that I don't know which carrier it works on. I didn't do much research. I just read that it was really good for the money so I bought it impulsively.
It's all my fault, I know.
Can anyone be so kind as to tell me what carrier it'll work on? I tried to do it myself but all the different bands and networks and frequencies confused me.
I'm in the USA in Texas, if that helps any.
Thank you in advance.
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All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
Thunderdr said:
All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
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There is a suggestion why don't you borrow sim card from any of your friend and check either it will work or not.
Or you may go to service center and try different carriers.
Redmi 5 Plus supports almost all kind of popular carriers I am from Pakistan and have friends of almost all countries and they use use redmi 5 plus with carriers available at their country.
Regards
The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The global version should work on most popular carriers. I can't say for the US but for the PH, Smart and Globe (carrier duopoly) work perfectly fine and support voLTE
I'm starting this thread to provide a more direct way for owners of the VOG-L04 P30 Pro variant to post some findings for people wanting to buy in the US.... Primarily if you can provide screen captures to prove some of the following:
1. With TMobile or ATT Sim in, Does the phone have wifi and / or VoLTE (use the cell network info app in the play store
2. Do you have wifi calling as an option in the network settings menu with ATT / TMobile Sim in?
3. Where / How did you get your phone? Buy online, cross the border, etc.
4. Any additional info you may want to share
With Band 66 on this phone and the possibility of better compatibility in the USA, we need your help to determine if we should wait for the L04 to become more available or just buy an international L09 / L29 if there's no real added benefit
Help us L04 owners, you're our only hope.....
Yeah, same. Wondering if Canada / Latin America variants have slightly better coverage in the US>
Im interested also
Me too! I believe there is a lot of interest regarding us "USA" consumers trying to find a better fit.
My AT&T SIM has been inactive too long, or I could help out. I'll see if I can obtain another one.
I got mine.
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
I highly doubt it will have VOLTE or wifi calling in any of the US carriers.
VoLTE looks to work just based on call connection speed, etc. Even though there's not a toggle for it. Wifi calling is a definite no
Don't count on getting WiFi Calling or VoLTE using AT&T SIM on VOG-L29
Unlike iPhone where iOS can download carrier settings, Andriod does not.
My dual sim L29 bought in Thailand will have VoLTE & WiFi calling options for all local SIM inserted. When I insert my AT&T, the two options disappears. I can get WiFi Calling using the same AT&T SIM in my iPhone X no problem.
kittiyut said:
Don't count on getting WiFi Calling or VoLTE using AT&T SIM on VOG-L29
Unlike iPhone where iOS can download carrier settings, Andriod does not.
My dual sim L29 bought in Thailand will have VoLTE & WiFi calling options for all local SIM inserted. When I insert my AT&T, the two options disappears. I can get WiFi Calling using the same AT&T SIM in my iPhone X no problem.
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But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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marcopolo1 said:
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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You don't need to be in the USA to try it out. Just put in your AT&T SIM card in the phone while in Canada or wherever you are on earth
Resetting the phone to factory won't help.
marcopolo1 said:
I live between USA and Peru. I just upgraded my plan and got the huawei P30 pro 256gb VOG-L04. For us$600.
Now is I am in San Francisco and using it. In peru I have volte and wifi calling option. But when I change sim cards.. The phone locks those options. Probably os because the phone is unlocked but attached to a carrier..
I get lte speed on 35 to 60 mbps in San Francisco using band 4. I don't know where to find lte 66. I will go to Guenerville, nyc. Boston during the next weeks and try the reception.
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kittiyut said:
You don't need to be in the USA to try it out. Just put in your AT&T SIM card in the phone while in Canada or wherever you are on earth
Resetting the phone to factory won't help.
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Actually it does. The first SIM card you put in dictates what "features" the phone downloads, the bloatware, if you will.
I put my local sim card. The option of carrier aggregation is on. With the tmobile sim card some options are off, like volte a d wifi calling. With my local sim card those options are on.
shollywood said:
But we're talking about the L04 though...which I get both in Canada (V & Wifi), and will try in the USA when I can.
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What SIM card did you put in at the switch (carrier)? I think if you reset the phone to factory, then put the US SIM card, you may find you have those features. Just trying to troubleshoot everything here......
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shollywood said:
Actually it does. The first SIM card you put in dictates what "features" the phone downloads, the bloatware, if you will.
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Not necessarily - it depends on what firmware the phone has. Phones sold in HK and most of SE Asia are, by law, unlocked. Bloatwares and "features" are already there with the out-of-box firmware.
When you update your firmware - that's another story.
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
udaredme said:
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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I second this!!!
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I second this!!!
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udaredme said:
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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We do know that the Canadian (Americas Model) has Band 66 as opposed to the International Versions... Its on Huawei site... So that's confirmed... AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 66 (launched 2016, 2017)... not everywhere as it is a newer band. Band 66 is an extension of Band 4.... What does that mean? From what I gather and someone maybe able to clarify that is a little more familiar with it, if a phone supports Band 4 and Band 66, it allows for more LTE headroom which results in faster speeds... not necessarily better reception...
With that said, I have the L29 on T-Mobile... do I notice any differences than the other countless phones I've had... No... but Band 66 may also not be a huge thing in Indianapolis either meaning there's nothing to test. In other words, the L04 is more compatible on paper... Is it a deal breaker... probably not. Especially when you can get the International Version on amazon.es shipped Global Priority with arrival by April 30th (if not faster) 256GB / 8GB Version for $918 USD... That's a deal... It hard to even find a L04 256GB / 8GB and good luck getting it at that price, even with the exchange rate.
mahst68 said:
We do know that the Canadian (Americas Model) has Band 66 as opposed to the International Versions... Its on Huawei site... So that's confirmed... AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 66 (launched 2016, 2017)... not everywhere as it is a newer band. Band 66 is an extension of Band 4.... What does that mean? From what I gather and someone maybe able to clarify that is a little more familiar with it, if a phone supports Band 4 and Band 66, it allows for more LTE headroom which results in faster speeds... not necessarily better reception...
With that said, I have the L29 on T-Mobile... do I notice any differences than the other countless phones I've had... No... but Band 66 may also not be a huge thing in Indianapolis either meaning there's nothing to test. In other words, the L04 is more compatible on paper... Is it a deal breaker... probably not. Especially when you can get the International Version on amazon.es shipped Global Priority with arrival by April 30th (if not faster) 256GB / 8GB Version for $918 USD... That's a deal... It hard to even find a L04 256GB / 8GB and good luck getting it at that price, even with the exchange rate.
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Is that a no?
For me a no, living in Indianapolis. For you, living somewhere else where Band 66, it could be yes it does matter to wait for L04. Really depends on your current phone and cell company, does your current phone support band 66? If no, and you’re fine with it’s connection speeds for 4G LTE then get a L29... it subjective to the person and requires self research...
udaredme said:
Any updates on a reasonably easy way for USA customers to purchase this model? I'm almost ready...
I am headed to Germany in a few weeks again, I keep drooling over the UK model and I keep touching it fondly....
I dont really wanna give in and get one if the canada version fits better for north american customers.
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Might be a trade off....
Canadian Version will probably be a single SIM, but might have the necessary firmware to support AT&T's VoLTE & WiFi calling.
The former is hardware and can not be changed, the later is software/firmware. For me, Dual SIM is a must so it's an easy choice for me.
Why not get the L29 and try to get Canadian firmware? If that's doable...
I'm traveling to the US soon, and i find out most companies like t-mobile verizo and at&t don't list the phone as compatible with their networks, and more over, when putting the IMEI on those websites, it just says not compatible.. any of you has any experience in the US with this specific phone? Global model ofc
I have it here in the US and I use t-mobile. I do not get good service and do not have VOLTE or VOWIFI. I did get missed calls time to time but it still worked.
The Realme GT2 PRO has compatibility issues with T-Mobile. I'm currently using mint mobile which is an mvno of T-Mobile and the service is pretty bad. In fact mint mobile says that the Realme GT2 pro is not compatible although it does work... barely. Unfortunately I had to buy Pixel 7 for use at work which is fine because it takes so long to charge that phone I end up using the GT2 pro at night for media and gaming. It's not a band issue as much as US carriers simply don't want to status the software.
Hopefully this will change soon. I haven't tried an att mvno but that's definitely on my to do list as the 5G and 4G band compatibility is better than T-Mobile.