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Somebody asked me a question in a PM which is worth discussing. My answer is easy -- LG V30. But my priorities may differ from others, so the answer may be different for you.
melihcarter said:
I wanna ask your opinion about something... I really like v30, have been planning buying it but since it's almost 2018 and G7 should be around the corner. What would you say? Get V30 or wait little longer for G7?
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LG V30 or 2018 LG G7?
I would choose the LG V30.
FIRST, it has all the specs (except for front facing stereo speakers) I desire in a phone.
OK, maybe it could have more RAM, maybe an LED notification light, maybe a slightly larger battery (even though this one is getting good reviews). But the LG V30 hits most of the boxes I wanted:
Qi wireless charging (which I have now),
1440p OLED display (which I have now),
at least 64GB internal memory (which I have now),
headset jack (which I have now) +
Snapdragon 835 (which is a next gen gigabit LTE chipset) and
high IP rating (which is requisite now for 2017 top-tier smartphones). Those that don't have that -- cough -- Essential, OnePlus are pretenders.
Even though I have a 2014 Moto XT1225, thanks to the stellar specs it had, it really kept pace with phones through 2015 and 2016. (Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, 3900 mAh battery, 1440p AMOLED display, Qi wireless charging, 21MP rear camera, 3.5mm headset jack).
Sure, each year brought iterative CPU updates, but only with the 2017 phones was there a feeling I needed to update. A lot of it was cumulative: stuff like fingerprint sensors, more RAM, and high IP ratings which became common (Motorola, Samsung, LG, Pixel, even iPhone). But suddenly with Snapdragon 835 was there a real "next gen" difference not only in computing speed but also LTE download speeds.
But I didn't want to give up what I already had. Qi wireless charging was my line in the sand. Laugh at that, but it's a real convenience for me and my wife.
Point is, the LG V30 is the first phone that makes me want it as bad as the when I bought three of the 2014 Moto XT1225 phones. (I bought two for me and my wife and later bought a 3rd for emergency backup purposes.)
SECOND, why not the LG G7? Won't it be better than the LG V30?
1) Tell me how it will be better?
Front facing stereo speakers would pique my interest. Yes, more RAM would be nice.
Yes, it will probably have Snapdragon 845, but that's just an iterative update -- much like the Snapdragon 820/821. The Snapdragon 835 was the "next gen" chipset (in manufacturing process, CPU speed and LTE speed). 845 will be a slight improvement, but not earth shattering.
2) But, did you see how LG screwed up the release of the LG G6?
I don't trust them to do any better with the LG G7. They will have a nice phone "on paper" but somehow manage to mess it up.
The real problem with the LG G6 was the STUPID regionalized specs scheme.
Want more than 32GB internal storage? Only some of the Asian variants had that.
Want Quad DAC? Out of luck if you live in Europe or U.S.
Want Qi wireless charging? Better move to the U.S.!
WHY? I want more storage, better audio AND Qi wireless -- but there was no LG G6 with ALL the specs. The U.S. unlocked and European unlocked did also qualify for official bootloader unlock, but those were limited to 32GB models only. And the U.S. was the only LG G6 sold world-wide that had Qi wireless. Yes, they all have microSD card expansion -- but only the Asian models had 64GB internal memory + microSD card and then even fewer Asian models had Quad DAC. NONE of the the "better" LG G6 was on the bootloader unlock list, and NONE had "all" the specs.
LG had a winning phone on paper, but they cut that paper up and shipped it to various parts of the world. You could not tape it all back together to get the FANTASTIC phone that could have competed with the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+. (Plus, it used "last year's Snapdragon 821.)
Only with the LG G6 Plus (which was NOT bigger, just had more specs) -- released MONTHS later as a follow-up to the LG G6 -- did LG include quad DAC and more storage for ALL countries where it was sold. It was the LG G6 they should have sold in the first place! The mid-year LG G6 Plus (South Korean edition) was the phone LG should have released at the BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
BUT even then, only the South Korea LG G6 Plus also had Qi wireless charging -- but NOT the European LG G6 Plus or Taiwan variant or others. WHY? (Apparently the LG G6 Plus was not released in U.S. markets officially.) And the super-duper South Korea LG G6 Plus was not on the official bootloader unlock list. NONE of the LG G6 Plus are on the bootloader unlock list.
Also by this time (mid year 2017) when the LG G6 Plus was released, there was no excuse not to have Snapdragon 835. The South Korea LG G6 Plus (with Qi wireless charging, quad DAC, 64GB memory) was the phone LG should have released back in the beginning to the ENTIRE WORLD. At that point (early 2017, with the LG G6) they were beating Samsung to market and had to go with last year's Snapdragon 821. Even with "last year's" Snapdragon (which the Pixel XL also has), at the point in time (early 2017) the LG G6 Plus would have been a winner.
Instead they released parts of the phone to various parts of the world as various crippled flavors of LG G6, then later released the LG G6 Plus -- which not only made LG G6 buyers feel STUPID (they should have waited for the BETTER phone)... but then LG then still didn't fix the "last year" Snapdragon issue. Who is going to pay NEW prices for a Snapdragon 821 phone in mid-2017, MONTHS after other phones with Snapdragon 835 is on the market?
The mid-2017 LG G6 Plus should have had Snapdragon 835, and Qi wireless for all countries, as well as bootloader unlock at least for U.S. and Europe (like the LG G6). Maybe LG felt that would step on the release of the LG V30, but so what? It would have made amends for their very idiotic "regionalization" specs scheme for the LG G6 at the beginning of the year. Also, the LG V30 has AMOLED with a bigger display, so they would not have been identical phones.
OK, rant over about the LG G6 -- but LG has said over and over that now with the "V" series, the "G" series is no longer their premier phone. And how they treated the G6 really proved that point. I'm afraid they will do the same with the G7, and you would say, "I should have gotten the LG V30".
I think LG's attitude is wrong. I think they should release TWO top tier flagship phones per year, like Samsung does.
THIRD, bootloader unlock and root.
For the LG G6, LG did not release the "open market" variants (which are eligible for bootloader unlock) until several weeks later, and only placed them on bootloader unlock list in June 2017. June 30, for the LG G6 US997, practically July 1!
Already I'm waiting until DECEMBER for the LG V30 US998, and hoping it will be placed on the bootloader unlock list by the end of the year. But could be even January 2018.
For those who don't care about root and buy from carrier stores, this third point may not matter. You'll have your LG G7 by March 2018. For those who care about specs, you can always order from South Korea -- but you'll pay full price. Unless LG messes up again and waits to release the "super duper" spec "LG G7 Plus" in mid-2018.... even the one from South Korea -- like they did with the LG G6 Plus.
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So, even though the G7 will have some slight improvements, I'm afraid LG will mess it up with stupid "regionalized" specs scheme again. Even if they don't, still the version that I want (open market) would probably not be available until mid-year.
Maybe they should wait for the V40... or the G8... or the V50... or the G9.....
CHH2 said:
Maybe they should wait for the V40... or the G8... or the V50... or the G9.....
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At some point you have to jump into the river and swim.
I used to upgrade every year. 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014. Phones that were obviously better, faster, had more features I wanted. LG phones, Nexus phones, and basically the smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6.
The 2014 Moto XT1225 is the longest period I've owned a phone to use as daily driver.
I even briefly owned a 2015 LG G4 I won in a launch contest, but sold it because I still loved my 2014 Moto XT1225.
I've also worked on family members and friends' newer phones (LG, Samsung), but still liked my phone better.
Only with the 2017 LG V30, I'm about to jump back in again.
Thank you friend
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ChazzMatt said:
Somebody asked me a question in a PM which is worth discussing. My answer is easy -- LG V30. But my priorities may differ from others, so the answer may be different for you.
LG V30 or 2018 LG G7?
I would choose the LG V30.
FIRST, it has all the specs (except for front facing stereo speakers) I desire in a phone.
OK, maybe it could have more RAM, maybe an LED notification light, maybe a slightly larger battery (even though this one is getting good reviews). But the LG V30 hits most of the boxes I wanted:
Qi wireless charging (which I have now),
1440p OLED display (which I have now),
at least 64GB internal memory (which I have now),
headset jack (which I have now) +
Snapdragon 835 (which is a next gen gigabit LTE chipset) and
high IP rating (which is requisite now for 2017 top-tier smartphones). Those that don't have that -- cough -- Essential, OnePlus are pretenders.
Even though I have a 2014 Moto XT1225, thanks to the stellar specs it had, it really kept pace with phones through 2015 and 2016. (Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, 3900 mAh battery, 1440p AMOLED display, Qi wireless charging, 21MP rear camera, 3.5mm headset jack).
Sure, each year brought iterative CPU updates, but only with the 2017 phones was there a feeling I needed to update. A lot of it was cumulative: stuff like fingerprint sensors, more RAM, and high IP ratings which became common (Motorola, Samsung, LG, Pixel, even iPhone). But suddenly with Snapdragon 835 was there a real "next gen" difference not only in computing speed but also LTE download speeds.
But I didn't want to give up what I already had. Qi wireless charging was my line in the sand. Laugh at that, but it's a real convenience for me and my wife.
Point is, the LG V30 is the first phone that makes me want it as bad as the when I bought three of the 2014 Moto XT1225 phones. (I bought two for me and my wife and later bought a 3rd for emergency backup purposes.)
SECOND, why not the LG G7? Won't it be better than the LG V30?
1) Tell me how it will be better?
Front facing stereo speakers would pique my interest. Yes, more RAM would be nice.
Yes, it will probably have Snapdragon 845, but that's just an iterative update -- much like the Snapdragon 820/821. The Snapdragon 835 was the "next gen" chipset (in manufacturing process, CPU speed and LTE speed). 845 will be a slight improvement, but not earth shattering.
2) But, did you see how LG screwed up the release of the LG G6?
I don't trust them to do any better with the LG G7. They will have a nice phone "on paper" but somehow manage to mess it up.
The real problem with the LG G6 was the STUPID regionalized specs scheme.
Want more than 32GB internal storage? Only some of the Asian variants had that.
Want Quad DAC? Out of luck if you live in Europe or U.S.
Want Qi wireless charging? Better move to the U.S.!
WHY? I want more storage, better audio AND Qi wireless -- but there was no LG G6 with ALL the specs. The U.S. unlocked and European unlocked did also qualify for official bootloader unlock, but those were limited to 32GB models only. And the U.S. was the only LG G6 sold world-wide that had Qi wireless. Yes, they all have microSD card expansion -- but only the Asian models had 64GB internal memory + microSD card and then even fewer Asian models had Quad DAC. NONE of the the "better" LG G6 was on the bootloader unlock list, and NONE had "all" the specs.
LG had a winning phone on paper, but they cut that paper up and shipped it to various parts of the world. You could not tape it all back together to get the FANTASTIC phone that could have competed with the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+. (Plus, it used "last year's Snapdragon 821.)
Only with the LG G6 Plus (which was NOT bigger, just had more specs) -- released MONTHS later as a follow-up to the LG G6 -- did LG include quad DAC and more storage for ALL countries where it was sold. It was the LG G6 they should have sold in the first place! The mid-year LG G6 Plus (South Korean edition) was the phone LG should have released at the BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
BUT even then, only the South Korea LG G6 Plus also had Qi wireless charging -- but NOT the European LG G6 Plus or Taiwan variant or others. WHY? (Apparently the LG G6 Plus was not released in U.S. markets officially.) And the super-duper South Korea LG G6 Plus was not on the official bootloader unlock list. NONE of the LG G6 Plus are on the bootloader unlock list.
Also by this time (mid year 2017) when the LG G6 Plus was released, there was no excuse not to have Snapdragon 835. The South Korea LG G6 Plus (with Qi wireless charging, quad DAC, 64GB memory) was the phone LG should have released back in the beginning to the ENTIRE WORLD. At that point (early 2017, with the LG G6) they were beating Samsung to market and had to go with last year's Snapdragon 821. Even with "last year's" Snapdragon (which the Pixel XL also has), at the point in time (early 2017) the LG G6 Plus would have been a winner.
Instead they released parts of the phone to various parts of the world as various crippled flavors of LG G6, then later released the LG G6 Plus -- which not only made LG G6 buyers feel STUPID (they should have waited for the BETTER phone)... but then LG then still didn't fix the "last year" Snapdragon issue. Who is going to pay NEW prices for a Snapdragon 821 phone in mid-2017, MONTHS after other phones with Snapdragon 835 is on the market?
The mid-2017 LG G6 Plus should have had Snapdragon 835, and Qi wireless for all countries, as well as bootloader unlock at least for U.S. and Europe (like the LG G6). Maybe LG felt that would step on the release of the LG V30, but so what? It would have made amends for their very idiotic "regionalization" specs scheme for the LG G6 at the beginning of the year. Also, the LG V30 has AMOLED with a bigger display, so they would not have been identical phones.
OK, rant over about the LG G6 -- but LG has said over and over that now with the "V" series, the "G" series is no longer their premier phone. And how they treated the G6 really proved that point. I'm afraid they will do the same with the G7, and you would say, "I should have gotten the LG V30".
I think LG's attitude is wrong. I think they should release TWO top tier flagship phones per year, like Samsung does.
THIRD, bootloader unlock and root.
For the LG G6, LG did not release the "open market" variants (which are eligible for bootloader unlock) until several weeks later, and only placed them on bootloader unlock list in June 2017. June 30, for the LG G6 US997, practically July 1!
Already I'm waiting until DECEMBER for the US998, and hoping it will be placed on the bootloader unlock list by the end of the year. But could be even January 2018.
So, even though the G7 will have some slight improvements, I'm afraid LG will mess it up. Even if they don't, still the version that I want (open market) would probably not be available until mid-year.
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No offense but, your write up seems like an awful lot of work to explain the common sense situation with every consumer decision everyone makes on...anything, ever. You could buy a phone....or wait because the next model could be better. You could buy a toaster...or wait because the next model could be better. That is literally the point..."things" we spend money on need to show they're "worthy" of our dollars so they have to come with slight "improvements" to wow us.....
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dc82 said:
No offense but, your write up seems like an awful lot of work to explain the common sense situation with every consumer decision everyone makes on...anything, ever. You could buy a phone....or wait because the next model could be better. You could buy a toaster...or wait because the next model could be better. That is literally the point..."things" we spend money on need to show their "worthy" of our dollars so they have to come with slight "improvements" to wow us.....
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But with LG it's a little different. They treat the G series differently from the V, and that's been a recent development. The G series (Optimus G aka G1, G2, G3, G4) were the premier phone from LG. Some people still don't realize that LG executives have publicly stated over and over the V series is now the premier phone and the G series is for people who don't care about specs.
Just like since people don't realize T-Mobile is no longer dev-friendly!
The LG G7 will be announced in January, supposedly released in February. This is now mid-November. So, it's a real question, do I wait 2 or 3 months to buy the "newer" LG phone or buy now? Based on how LG thinks of the "G" series, I think buy now. Because the "newer" phone coming out is not LG's premier 2018 phone -- that will be the LG V40. They'll find SOME WAY to make sure the G7 is not "too good".
Even Samsung treats their Galaxy S/S+ more equally to Note series than LG does with G and V series. I know some people have disagreed with this opinion, but Samsung basically releases TWO premier phones per year -- S/S+ in early year, and then Note at end of year. There's enough industry movement in specs throughout the year (RAM, cameras, maybe newer CPUs) to justify that. What is the "norm" at the beginning of the year looks old by end of the year.
I will be very surprised if the G7 is substantially better than the LG V30. It won't have a 7th gen OLED display, they barely got the 6th gen up and running. It might have 6GB RAM, but I would bet they will regionalize that and give that to South Korea and no one else. It probably won't have front facing stereo speakers. IF they do what they did with the LG G6, some regions may have quad DAC, but others won't.
Maybe 128GB internal memory? That would be nice, but will ALL countries get that?
ChazzMatt said:
At some point you have to jump into the river and swim.
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That's pretty much what I was insinuating.
you could still wait an buy the v30 in February probably much cheaper, if the g7 is not what you wanted. and i guess they still mess up the release next time. so g7 in May/June...!?
Don't know what the point of this topic really is. OP does not own a V30 and nobody knows jack about the G7. Total personal if you want to spend budget now or wait till price drops or if the new phone will be better...
1979Sentinel said:
Don't know what the point of this topic really is. OP does not own a V30 and nobody knows jack about the G7. Total personal if you want to spend budget now or wait till price drops or if the new phone will be better...
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The point is "Will the G7 be better than the V30"?
I know all about the V30, but I'm waiting for the dev version. (Besides extensive research, I have fondled several in stores.) I actually know about a lot of LG phones -- from either owning them or working on them (rooting, setting them up, maintaining) for friends.
And I know -- even if you don't seem to? -- LG's stated philosophy on the G series starting with the 2015 G4 is: "Don't make it 'too good'.
You don't have to know the specs of the LG G7. Last year the specs "on paper" of the G6 were great, but you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the stated specs. LG regionalized the specs, so no one got a great phone.
So, the choice between the two phones is easy. The answer is easy.
How long you want to wait to buy the LG V30, for price drops, is personal choice.
ChazzMatt said:
The point is will the G7 be better than the V30?
I know all about the V30, but I'm waiting for the dev version. And I know -- even if you don't seem to? -- LG's stated philosophy on the G series. "Don't make it 'too good'.
You don't have to know the specs of the LG G7. Last year the specs "on paper" of the G6 were great, but you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the stated specs. LG regionalized the specs, so no one got a great phone.
So, the choice between the two phones is easy.
How long you want to wait to buy the LG V30, for price drops, is personal choice.
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I do know the philosophy (don't make it personal as always, and yes I have stated you don't own a V30 yet, but that is a fact you mentioned yourself). But philosophy as well as strategy can be easily changed especially when you are fighting/competing and not being the best on a lot of subjects. I think by now they will be realizing that "Don't make it too good" is a stupid strategy and need to reevaluate G7 philosophy.
I think they are already making that strategy too much appearant on roll out plan over the world. Europe lot of countries still no V30
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I do know the philosophy (don't make it personal as always, and yes I have stated you don't own a V30 yet, but that is a fact you mentioned yourself). But philosophy as well as strategy can be easily changed especially when you are fighting/competing and not being the best on a lot of subjects. I think by now they will be realizing that "Don't make it too good" is a stupid strategy and need to reevaluate G7 philosophy.
I think they are already making that strategy too much appearant on roll out plan over the world. Europe lot of countries still no V30
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Not making it personal, but I explained in detail LG's G series philosophy. Stated publicly by LG themselves many times over the past couple of years, in a more polite way of course.
This article below alludes to it, but I read others where the reporter said "off the record" execs were very plain spoken.
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g6-shows-lgs-commitment-v-line
Therefore it seemed you still didn't seem to know it... per proof in your post saying no one knew the specs of the G7. My point clearly is we don't need to know the specs.
And yes, that philosophy NEEDS to change. Samsung doesn't do that with their Galaxy S/S+ models vs Note, and neither should LG with G vs V.
The G7 will be announced in Feb and go on sale in June.
justibasa said:
The G7 will be announced in Feb and go on sale in June.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't go rushing them in to a release date. They may need until August.
It won't be ready for prime time either. They will ship reviewers a 6 month old pre-production model and the first run will be buggy. By october you might see it at it's full potential.
They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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What "happened" was last year's G6: Regionalized specs, extremely slow rollout is what happened -- coupled with "last year's" Snapdragon. They went with 821 to BEAT Samsung to market, and they didn't beat them to market because of slow rollout.
Other companies like HTC, Motorola were able to sell phones with 835 even after S8/S8+ was released.
So, LG is re-examining all their flawed business practices for the G series, including even the name.
They also need to preemptively place the open market flagship phones on their bootloader unlock list.
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melihcarter said:
They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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The LG G7 is cancelled and will be replaced by some diffrent kind of line/model.
Source: https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g7-video (watch the video)
If G7 was to follow the last year G6 model (release it fast but with "last years" SoC ) it make sense. LG is usually slow to release after announcing a phone and by the time the phone is out there are already rivals out with the newest SoC. The V30 already looks like 2017 flagship for LG ( what G7 should have been) repeating this business model does not make sense. I suppose we are still going to see one flagship from LG every year, but only one so no more G and V models) and the cycle will change probably released and hopefully available in summer. This is probably what the message says, competing with Samsung for an early release with no SoCs available does not make sense. the G7 was a mess, released in multiple variants with missing features and released with previous year's SoC . By the time they release the 128 GB version V30 was already announced which is a much better phone.
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. the G6 was a mess, released in multiple variants with missing features and released with previous year's SoC . By the time they release the 128 GB version V30 was already announced which is a much better phone.
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Right. And that G6+ model released in July, still had Snapdragon 821.
Samsung manages to release two flagships per year. LG can do it too. But Samsung differentiates the Galaxy S/S+ series from the Note series while not demoting S/S+. Past couple of years, especially with the G6 it was as if LG didn't want to make it TOO GOOD. "Can't give everyone quad DAC or extra storage or Qi wireless charging. That would make it better than our V20." WHO CARES? Put the best phone out there you can.
Yes, the V30 is what the G6 SHOULD have been.
Now go out there and give us an even better one for whatever the G7 replacement is going to be. Make it better than the V30. I dare you.
Give it better selfie camera, slightly bigger battery, more RAM, stereo speakers. Give it dual cameras with one that can also do portrait mode via software.
Make the 2018 V40 team break out into a sweat. "How are we going to top that?"
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This is also confirmed to work for the open market V30S sold by B&H Photo:
WTF V30/V30+/V30S Bootloader Unlock and Root (MOST VARIANTS)
Enjoy!
coalase said:
I am glad to report (bootloader) unlock worked on the new V30S
Simply unboxed, loaded new unlock bin (ADB returned "OKAY"), and rebooted
LG Developer unlock page method did not work
Big thank you to everyone, @txanmoe and @ChazzMatt in particular.
Matte Blue looks pretty sweet as well! :good:
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ChazzMatt said:
Fantastic! B&H photo V30S?
I'll edit the instructions post tonight to include to include the V30S
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coalase said:
correct
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I'm sure the answer is that it won't work, but I want to confirm.
Will doing this ruin LG Pay when it's eventually released in the US or will there be a way to fix it IE Magisk or something.
Recently switched from an S8 and I miss Samsung Pay.
like the look of the V30S, especially since it's $230 cheaper than the V35. Has anyone actually bought and tried it? I'd like to use it on Verizon and it has all the right bands to work but I want to be sure. And it would be nice to know if it's Treble enabled.
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like the look of the V30S, especially since it's $230 cheaper than the V35. Has anyone actually bought and tried it? I'd like to use it on Verizon and it has all the right bands to work but I want to be sure. And it would be nice to know if it's Treble enabled.
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As a user of Straight Talk, which uses Verizon networks, the phone works just fine.
Switched from an S8+ to this. So far I'm liking it. The only real difference I've noticed is that it's only slightly smaller. Battery great. 50% after 12 hours. About four of which it was used.
V30S on the way
Sweet my V30S is on the way from B&H!!
Cheers
Xanderghul said:
I'm sure the answer is that it won't work, but I want to confirm.
Will doing this ruin LG Pay when it's eventually released in the US or will there be a way to fix it IE Magisk or something.
Recently switched from an S8 and I miss Samsung Pay.
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You can use Magisk to hide bootloader unlock and root.
You need to ask these questions over in the V30 forum. The V30S is just another V30 "Joan" variant, like the V30+. They are all "Joan" devices, same TWRP works for all, same ROMs work for all.
The LG V35 is the one that is different that need their own forum! V30S is just another V30, but with more RAM.
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You need to ask these questions over in the V30 forum. The V30S is just another V30 "Joan" variant, like the V30+. They are all "Joan" devices, same TWRP works for all, same ROMs work for all.
The LG V35 is the one that is different that need their own forum! V30S is just another V30, but with more RAM.
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Are the V30S and V30 (and V30+, and...) stock ROMs the same? In the V30 forum, for the latest 20E update, you wrote:
NOTE: This is for all V30/V30+ US998 -- open market US998 V30/V30+ as well as U.S Cellular US998 V30/V30+.
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"V30s" is not in the list. Is that because it's not compatible... or because LG has mucked up the model numbers so much that it's hard to keep straight and it was accidentally omitted? lol
I thought the V30S has Google Lens and more AI options in the camera and voice controls, hence the ThinQ in the model name. Like the G7 has. If all this is true... Does that mean I could flash the V30S stock ROM to my V30 (US998, 64GB, 4GB) and get those extra features?! Or, am I wrong, and the stock V30S ROM is the same as my stock V30 ROM? Where can I even get the V30S stock ROM? It's not in the V30 forum, nor is it here.
I know that LG has cast off the shackles of the traditional release cycle, and is releasing much more iterative updates more frequently... so... at what point does the hardware diverge enough to prevent cross-flashing the stock ROMs among versions?
Thanks for the help. I've been happily humming along with my US998 on 20B lately, and just recently played with a G7 and Google Lens in the camera. Now I'm digging a little and getting confused.
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Are the V30S and V30 (and V30+, and...) stock ROMs the same? In the V30 forum, for the latest 20E update, you wrote:
"V30s" is not in the list. Is that because it's not compatible... or because LG has mucked up the model numbers so much that it's hard to keep straight and it was accidentally omitted? lol
I thought the V30S has Google Lens and more AI options in the camera and voice controls, hence the ThinQ in the model name. Like the G7 has. If all this is true... Does that mean I could flash the V30S stock ROM to my V30 (US998, 64GB, 4GB) and get those extra features?! Or, am I wrong, and the stock V30S ROM is the same as my stock V30 ROM? Where can I even get the V30S stock ROM? It's not in the V30 forum, nor is it here.
I know that LG has cast off the shackles of the traditional release cycle, and is releasing much more iterative updates more frequently... so... at what point does the hardware diverge enough to prevent cross-flashing the stock ROMs among versions?
Thanks for the help. I've been happily humming along with my US998 on 20B lately, and just recently played with a G7 and Google Lens in the camera. Now I'm digging a little and getting confused.
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Yes, ALL V30/V30+/V30S are ThinQ, with Oreo. ALL the US998 V30/V30+/V30S use the SAME KDZ.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Hey all.
So lets take a little poll...
Now that the V40 has officially been announced; I was just thinking about opinions from the experts.
If you had to choose one or the other to be your daily driver; would you opt for a the new V40 or would you rather keep your rooted V30?
Obviously, V40 remains to be tried & tested, but likely will prove to be very satisfying in the end.
Cheers!
i'd rather save some money and get a V35. Reviews of the V40 say the telephoto lens is not good. Plus I never cared to have a telephoto lens. The wide angle lens on the V40 is 107 degrees (like G7), from V30/35's 120 degree. V35 has SD845 and 6GB ram just like V40.
Edit: LG keeps dropping the wide angle lens degree. I guess to minimize the fisheye effect.
G5/V20: 135
G6: 125
V30: 120
G7/V40: 107
if the V40 has the ugly notch like the G7 and every new iPhone then i will stick with the V30+ or go to the V35 if offered on Sprint
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYoGMsImJhw
HKSpeed said:
i'd rather save some money and get a V35. Reviews of the V40 say the telephoto lens is not good. Plus I never cared to have a telephoto lens. The wide angle lens on the V40 is 107 degrees (like G7), from V30/35's 120 degree. V35 has SD845 and 6GB ram just like V40.
Edit: LG keeps dropping the wide angle lens degree. I guess to minimize the fisheye effect.
G5/V20: 135
G6: 125
V30: 120
G7/V40: 107
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Yeah, if you're talking having a non rooted phone, I'd take the Snapdragon 845 V35 over the V40. V40 only comes in 64GB by the way. I don't see a V40+ announced.
steevo23 said:
Hey all.
So lets take a little poll...
Now that the V40 has officially been announced; I was just thinking about opinions from the experts.
If you had to choose one or the other to be your daily driver; would you opt for a the new V40 or would you rather keep your rooted V30?
Obviously, V40 remains to be tried & tested, but likely will prove to be very satisfying in the end.
Cheers!
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Right now?
v30+ - unlocked/twrp/rooted - $300
v40 - locked - $1000
Ask me again when the v35 or v40 is unlocked and rooted and down to $300
Alibaba0101 said:
Right now?
v30+ - unlocked/twrp/rooted - $300
v40 - locked - $1000
Ask me again when the v35 or v40 is unlocked and rooted and down to $300
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Exactly. 128GB V30+ with TWRP and PIE right NOW for $300.
vs WHAT? 64GB Oreo locked down V40 for $1000? With an almost-wide angle lens? Ours is 120°. V40 is 107°. Why?
I've had several people on here as well as friends and brother in law who are amazed at the "mint" $300 V30+ on eBay.
V30 all the way. I personally can't live without root but seriously, why would you ever want a phone with a notch? It's bad design and a compromise done by apple and blindly copied by everyone else.
Also the v30 is almost too big for me and the v40 is even bigger...
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V40 only comes in 64GB by the way. I don't see a V40+ announced.
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PCWorld writer Michael Simon has two articles about the V40 and they both state there is a 64GB and 128GB version - Meet the LG V40 ThinQ: More screen, more battery, more cameras, and more fun and Android Confidential: The LG V40 is a better G7, with an OLED display and an extra camera.
what about samsung s9 plus on 845 snap? T
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PCWorld writer Michael Simon has two articles about the V40 and they both state there is a 64GB and 128GB version - Meet the LG V40 ThinQ: More screen, more battery, more cameras, and more fun and Android Confidential: The LG V40 is a better G7, with an OLED display and an extra camera.
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OK. It's just I read three articles yesterday and scanned a couple of others, and they said 64GB. I admit I'm not doing as much deep reading so I did on the V30.
Last year I was looking for a replacement phone for my 2014 Moto Maxx (international version of the Droid Turbo, but had more LTE bands). Early in the year, I made an XDA thread with my needs -- and listed all contenders with pros and cons. I wasn't even looking at the LG V30, but the LG G6 was an early favorite until LG unveiled their idiotic regional specs scheme.
I thought I was going to be forced to get a Note 8... Then the V30 happened, which was what the G6 SHOULD have been. It hit almost every box on my checklist. I even specifically held out until December to buy it, to get the Open Market variant that could be officially rooted (and LG screwed screwed the US998 V30+ owners on that and they tried to screw the US998 V3O owners by never officially listing it on the LG bootloader unlock website...
Luckily we got WTF in May 2018.
@ChazzMatt maybe it is little offtop, but can I ask you what US carriers have lte bands B3 and B7 in their smartphones? As I know ATT and Verizon have this bands.
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@ChazzMatt maybe it is little offtop, but can I ask you what US carriers have lte bands B3 and B7?
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None, I'm aware of, but those are the primary bands in Brazil and several other Latin America countries. I visited Brazil 6 times in 10 years, and plan to go back again, so helps to have a phone that works there.
My 2014 Moto Maxx XT1225 (QUARK) had bands 3 & 7, but also had all the AT&T LTE bands (2/4/5/17). Which is why I would not buy the sibling Moto Droid Turbo sold here in the US. It didn't have as many bands, especially for AT&T. So, even though I imported three from another country, the Moto Maxx was a fantastic "AT&T" phone. (Not branded AT&T, but in actual use.)
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ChazzMatt said:
None, I'm aware of, but those are the primary bands in Brazil and several other Latin America countries. I visited Brazil 6 times in 10 years, and plan to go back again, so helps to have a phone that works there.
My 2014 Moto Maxx XT1225 (QUARK) had bands 3 & 7, but also had all the AT&T LTE bands (2/4/5/17). Which is why I would not buy the sibling Moto Droid Turbo sold here in the US. It didn't have as many bands, especially for AT&T. So, even though I imported three from another country, the Moto Maxx was a fantastic AT&T phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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I know that US carriers use other lte bands, but in ATT and Verizon there're no lock as I know and ATT or Verizon phones can works in Ukrainian carriers with LTE.
Sergykm said:
I know that US carriers use other lte bands, but in ATT and Verizon there're no lock as I know and ATT or Verizon phones can works in Ukrainian carriers with LTE.
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Right, Verizon phones are NOT SIM card unlocked since 2012, due to order of FCC. Not going to go into why. But a lot of people here remember when Verizon DID lock down their phones (like Sprint) and some people still don't understand they are no longer locked.
However, AT&T phones are SIM card locked to AT&T, but when you buy them in Ukraine the dealers must have already unlocked them. It's not hard to SIM card unlock an AT&T phone.
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@ChazzMatt I know about locked and unlocked. I always buy unlocked phone, but now in Ukraine is LTE (only last year, it's crazy but true) and if I buy unlocked phone from t-mobile or sprint they does't have b3 and b7 as I know, but ATT's and Verizon"s have it. Is it right?
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@ChazzMatt I know about locked and unlocked. I always buy unlocked phone, but now in Ukraine is LTE (only last year, it's crazy but true) and if I buy unlocked phone from t-mobile or sprint they does't have b3 and b7 as I know, but ATT's and Verizon"s have it. Is it right?
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Ah, I see where your coming from. You want bands 3 and 7 in Ukraine. I was puzzled how you knew I wanted bands 3 and 7 for Brazil.
Yes, AT&T and Verizon typically have bands 3 & 7 because of either U.S. territories that might use them or international roaming agreements.
But for the V30, you CAN buy a Sprint phone. Frankenstein it to US998 and it will be SIM card unlocked and have these bands. You can even use WTF to bootloader unlock and root. I bought TWO Sprint LS998 V30+ and converted them to US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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Ah, I see where your coming from. You want bands 3 and 7 in Ukraine. I was puzzled how you knew I wanted bands 3 and 7 for Brazil.
Yes, AT&T and Verizon typically have bands 3 & 7 because of either U.S. territories that might use them or international roaming agreements.
But for the V30, you CAN buy a Sprint phone. Frankenstein it to US998 and it will be SIM card unlocked and have these bands. You can even use WTF to bootloader unlock and root. I bought TWO Sprint LS998 V30+ and converted them to US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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Thanks for the answer. Yes I have already use lg v30 v300s(or k) converted to H930 and I have all LTE bands in Ukraine.
But I think about galaxy s9 plus (with snap of course) after v30. What do you think about it? It has better main camera for lowlight and fastest focus. What do you think about it? I don't like g7 and v40 because they have notch. I also like v35 but it is without root.
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Thanks for the answer. Yes I have already use lg v30 v300s(or k) converted to H930 and I have all LTE bands in Ukraine.
But I think about galaxy s9 plus (with snap of course) after v30. What do you think about it? It has better main camera for lowlight and fastest focus. What do you think about it? I don't like g7 and v40 because they have notch. I also like v35 but it is without root.
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I'll let you make that decision. I do admire Samsung for not caving into the stupid notch design. Apparently the V40 lets you HIDE the notch, in which case why have it in the first place? I think Google forced LG to do it, because THEY wanted the notch for the Pixel 3 XL so they continue down their path to copy Apple. Which is why Google brought back Qi wireless charging after having dumped it, when they were early adopters back in 2012. Apple FINALLY went to Qi wireless charging and now Google is going back after idiotically dropping it. But since the Pixel 3 XL uses the same display as the V40, just like the Pixel 2 XL/V30, LG then had to have a notch in the V40.
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V30 all the way. I personally can't live without root but seriously, why would you ever want a phone with a notch? It's bad design and a compromise done by apple and blindly copied by everyone else.
Also the v30 is almost too big for me and the v40 is even bigger...
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I agree on the notch, but you can minimize the look by turning the two sides black. Kinda like the second screen with the v20. That was a notch, the notch was just on the left.
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what about samsung s9 plus on 845 snap? T
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no root or bootloader unlock
Crazy side glass which is pretty bad
screen is smaller or at least appeared to be when i put the phones side by side
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Sergykm said:
@ChazzMatt maybe it is little offtop, but can I ask you what US carriers have lte bands B3 and B7 in their smartphones? As I know ATT and Verizon have this bands.
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At&t does not use either band.
I'm liking the input so far!
Alrighty then, lets expand our field...
Now you've just won a poker hand and get to(have to) select to be YOUR ONE & ONLY for the next 6-12 months; sitting on the table free of charge:
S9 plus; Note 9; Mate 10 pro; iPhone XS MAX; V40; Pixel 3 XL or keep your rooted V30+.
Which would U choose???
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the differences between the V30 and the V35 as far as installing ROMs and such? There is a thread for the V35 but its pretty bare. Do all the installation procedures and work the same on both?
V30: a only, SD835
V35: A/B (recovery is in boot partition, slots, and so), SD845
juniorD said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the differences between the V30 and the V35 as far as installing ROMs and such? There is a thread for the V35 but its pretty bare. Do all the installation procedures and work the same on both?
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Just to be clear, you do know V30 and V35 are completely different phone series? Custom ROMs for V30 (Joan) will not work on V35 (JudyP).
LG V35 (JudyP), G8 (JudyN) and V40 (JudyPN) with LG "Judy" internal code names and Snapdragon 845 are all more similar to each other than to V30/V30+/V30S (Joan).
Now you need TWRP and a V35 ROM to install.
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Just to be clear, you do know V30 and V35 are completely different phone series?
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....ahhh no thats why Im asking. lol. But thanks for the info. :good:
SGCMarkus said:
V30: a only, SD835
V35: A/B (recovery is in boot partition, slots, and so), SD845
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The same goes for the V30S ThinQ? Im thinking about buying one of these and I just want to know which one has the most support when it comes to custom ROMs and everything associated with it.
juniorD said:
The same goes for the V30S ThinQ? Im thinking about buying one of these and I just want to know which one has the most support when it comes to custom ROMs and everything associated with it.
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I specifically mentioned the V30S in my reply:
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Just to be clear, you do know V30 and V35 are completely different phone series? Custom ROMs for V30 (Joan) will not work on V35 (JudyP).
LG V35 (JudyP), G8 (JudyN) and V40 (JudyPN) with LG "Judy" internal code names and Snapdragon 845 are all more similar to each other than to V30/V30+/V30S (Joan).
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V30/V30+/V30S are all the same phone (JOAN), just with different options for internal storage and RAM. They all run the same firmware, same mods, same ROMs. This is why the official V30S forum is dead, because all V30S users are here. THIS is the V30S forum.
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The same goes for the V30S ThinQ?
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Drop the "ThinQ" part. Every V30/V30+/V30S on Oreo or later is ThinQ. No one actually uses that word.
Back when the late 2017 V30/V30+ Snapdragon 835 was still on Nougat, LG introduced the V30S in early 2018 with Oreo software and AI cam -- calling it "ThinQ" -- and trying to pretend it was a totally different phone to compete with the new Galaxy S8/S8+ which had Snapdragon 845.
It wasn't a totally different phone. It was merely a V30+ (128GB) with 6GB RAM, instead of 4GB. It was still a "Joan" phone.
When all the other V30/V30+ got Oreo, they also received this "ThinQ" AI cam. And LG grudgingly admitted all V30 would become "ThinQ" (stupid name no one uses) once they all got Oreo -- while they were still trying to sell this "new" V30S.
For the US998, all the V30/V30+/V30S all use the exact same KDZ firmware.
The only issue with US998 V30S is it's hard to find and when you can, it's too expensive for what you are buying. Most people just buy V30+.
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I specifically mentioned the V30S in my reply:
V30/V30+/V30S are all the same phone (JOAN), just with different options for internal storage and RAM. They all run the same firmware, same mods, same ROMs. This is why the official V30S forum is dead, because all V30S users are here. THIS is the V30S forum.
Drop the ThinQ part. Every V30 on Oreo or later is ThinQ. No one actually uses that word.
Back when the late 2017 V30 Snapdragon 835 was still on Nougat, LG introduced the V30S in early 2018 with Oreo software and AI cam -- calling it ThinQ -- and trying to pretend it was a totally different phone to compete with the new Galaxy S8/S8+ which had Snapdragon 845.
It wasn't a totally different phone. It was merely a V30+ (128GB) with 6GB RAM, instead of 4GB. It was still a Joan phone. When all the other V30/V30+ got Oreo, they also received this "ThinQ" AI cam. And LG grudgingly admitted all V30 would become "ThinQ" (stupid name no one uses) once they all got Oreo -- while they were still trying to sell this "new" V30S.
For the US998, all the V30/V30+/V30S all use the exact same KDZ firmware.
The only issue with V30S is it's hard to find and when you can, it's too expensive for what you are buying. Most people just buy V30+.
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Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
The Razer Phone 2 is pretty good, BUT you need a dongle.
LGAGaming said:
The Razer Phone 2 is pretty good, BUT you need a dongle.
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Thanks man ill check it out
el.quechon said:
Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
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Don't think there's any non LG phone with this good audio. Try and see if Axon phones have a high quality dac
Otherwise I'd say redmi k20 pro is a pretty solid phone for the price of around 350$
I was also thinking about maybe replacing the screen but i see that tmobile v30 costs almost the same as a replacement screen
el.quechon said:
Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Thanks a lot man i will be doing that buying right now
Edit: ordered already that quality of music from v30 cant keep me away from it
I cracked my V30 screen too, couldn't stand looking at it anymore so I grabbed a mint condition V40 for $180. The screens only .4 inches bigger but that lil bit makes a huge difference. Plus the colors/resolution are much better too. V50 is nearly identical except for 128GB vs 64GB, a lil bigger battery and 5G, everything else is same, chip, RAM, screen, size.. Still use the V30 though for root apps.
This is what I would get if my V30 died today:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362882303051
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I cracked my V30 screen too, couldn't stand looking at it anymore so I grabbed a mint condition V40 for $180. The screens only .4 inches bigger but that lil bit makes a huge difference. Plus the colors/resolution are much better too. V50 is nearly identical except for 128GB vs 64GB, a lil bigger battery and 5G, everything else is same, chip, RAM, screen, size..
Still use the V30 though for root apps.
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My two US998 V30+ are both 128GB.
2018 V40 (Snapdragon 845) has completely different chipset from 2019 V50 (Snapdragon 855).
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HKSpeed said:
This is what I would get if my V30 died today:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362882303051
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Nah. Notch.
If you're going to get a 2018 LG 64GB Snapdragon 845, get the LG V35 not the V3l40
V35 is a V40 in a V30 case, but with no notch.
V35 is also less expensive than the V40, but same internal specs. Not only sold by AT&T, but Amazon, several Latin America variants and North American Open Market, all of which can be cross flashed.
Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
Brazil got 128GB V35+, but I can't get one online.
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Nah. Notch.
If you're going to get a 2018 LG 64GB Snapdragon 845, get the LG V35 not the V3l40
V35 is a V40 in a V30 case, but with no notch.
V35 is also less expensive than the V40, but same internal specs. Not only sold by AT&T, but Amazon, several Latin America variants and North American Open Market, all of which can be cross flashed.
Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
Brazil got 128GB V35+, but I can't get one online.
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Are either of the V35 or V40 bootloader unlocked yet? That would be a major dealbreaker for me.
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Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
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LMFAO man, when my V30 dies I'm going to PM you to buy a V30 from you. You have about 10.
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Are either of the V35 or V40 bootloader unlocked yet? That would be a major dealbreaker for me.
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EU V40 has the LG official bootloader unlock.
All others including V35 have paid root through TeamViewer, which may or may not include Bootloader Unlock. People remote into your PC and work on your phone through your PC. Costs like $20, I think?
Or you can buy a used phone, already rooted from China seller.
This is why V35 in particular never took off in this forum (unlike V30), and has no custom ROMs, etc.
Dev runningnak3d started working DYI Bootloader Unlock and Root on the V35, then gave up.
V35 is a better phone than the V40. It's sad that LG caved into the notch on the V40.
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EU V40 has the LG official bootloader unlock.
All others including V35 have paid root through TeamViewer, which may or may not include Bootloader Unlock. People remote into your PC and work on your phone through your PC. Costs like $20, I think?
Or you can buy a used phone, already rooted from China seller.
This is why V35 in particular never took off in this forum (unlike V30), and has no custom ROMs, etc.
Dev runningnak3d started working DYI Bootloader Unlock and Root on the V35, then gave up.
V35 is a better phone than the V40. It's sad that LG caved into the notch on the V40.
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So no, they aren't That's a shame, there's no way I'm letting someone into my PC on TV, that's insane. Still rocking the 128GB V30+ so guess I'll stick with it forever!
how about the lg g8 ( unlocked from sprint/verizon ) ? any possibility of flashing stock rom on that?
I went with the v30 im getting it today the 998 version 128gb just 130 dollars didnt want to spend too much money been happy with v30 when the new one dies ill get v40 maybe
el.quechon said:
I went with the v30 im getting it today the 998 version 128gb just 130 dollars didnt want to spend too much money been happy with v30 when the new one dies ill get v40 maybe
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That's called the V30+ and you've made the right choice.
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Now $125 from same seller:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/183795406681
Got my baby it looks brand new
I am in the same boat: My H932 V30+ is finished, digitizer got wonky to the point where I couldn't use it anymore. I didn't want to spend $150 to repair it this time, but also not sure what to choose instead.
Following are my thoughts:
1) I love V30+ and would buy another in a heartbeat if I could get a new one at a reasonable price with 2 years warranty. Between my wife's and my own V30 I've seen enough issues that I want (need) that warranty. Buying used or "seller refurbished" I'd assume that either the battery is in poor shape, OR the phone has been opened and lost IP68, OR both. I don't trust ”mint" to mean anything other than "no deep scratches". I am not ruling it out, but it has to be cheap compared to the alternatives.
2) I always found V35 a great alternative, being a V30 with 6GB/SD845. I really kick myself for not buying one of those unlocked Cricket/AT&T units for $149 last summer. Right now it's probably my best bet at ~$275-300 new (2 years warranty). Downsides are just 64GB (not much on an A/B slot phone). And it would be an AT&T model which cannot be updated without cross-flashing -- which will lose that 2 year warranty anyway. Non-AT&T variants (ULM/GFI) are overpriced.
3) I've looked at G8, which is now $4-500 new for TMO/AT&T variants (more for factory unlocked QM7 variants). Solid specs with 6GB/128GB/SD855. It also supports Band 71 which I would like: If TMO ever goes live with B71 where I live, I'll switch my Red Pocket plan from AT&T to TMO and gain VoLTE. (V30 and V35 don't have B71, except H932 which I would never buy again). But G8 price is still too high for me. And I hate that power button on the side, love V30's fingerprint/power combo on the back. I am OK with G8's form factor and notch, although not as elegant as V30/V35. I also found my V30 screen to be better than G8, even after adjusting color and brightness settings.
4) I don't really need root: I can uninstall bloat and trackers with ADB, and I am more concerned about warranty anyway. But I hate not having the OPTION to root after the warranty period. That of course means V30 > V35 > G8: I don't expect G8 will ever get root. I am not ruling out remote root of V35, though I dislike it as much as the next guy. And I doubt there will ever be custom ROMs to keep V35 relevant after LG stops updating.
5) Unfortunately Quad DAC is less of a priority for me than it was: In just a couple months Meniere's disease has killed my ability to listen to music at anything but the most rudimentary level. I am still hoping I can beat it or improve it over time, so having the Quad DAC would be nice. But if such a wonderful thing were to happen, I could just buy a USB DAC or Shanling M0. Most of my listening is (was) at home anyway.
6) I checked OnePlus 7T in a TMO store and would consider it (not from TMO, of course) if it cost less (currently $599); and more importantly, if the form factor wasn't so ridiculous: It's narrower than V30 and about 12 inches long (well, maybe not quite ) The OnePlus notch is the best I've seen, and I could live with it.
I've been using my old Nexus 5 backup phone for the last few weeks, hoping some deal will come out to sway me one way or another. But that may not happen until after MWC in late February...
Any thoughts or input are much appreciated.
Edit: I saw the eBay listing linked by @ChazzMatt and wrote the seller to ask if he can say anything about battery and whether the phones have been opened. I imagine he bought them bulk, so may not be possible for him to answer -- which I can understand.