What is treble? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers

I've seen this word around here. Ex: "non-treble model". What does it mean?

fede01_8 said:
I've seen this word around here. Ex: "non-treble model". What does it mean?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...ze-android-so-oems-can-update-devices-faster/
Read this article it explains in detail what Project Treble is.
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/amp/
This explains why Project Treble is a huge thing for Custom ROM development.
(Read the next part after reading those links, it will make more sense)
Now why most of the ROMs are non-treble for vince is because treble is most useful only if officially supported by the OEM. Some devs have been able to port treble unofficially to many Xiaomi devices. In the start vince also had custom ROMs with treble support. It meant that after flashing that ROM once you could then flash any Treble GSI on top of it. It does help that there are more ROMs that you can try out. But for a device with a good development base does not benefit much because most of the Treble GSIs available have ports available native to that device and a native port for a device is always better than flashing a GSI. But you would ask that if Treble has been ported then why not just leave it as an option for the few who would still want to try it. Many other devices are working this way such as mido which has several working Treble enabled ROMs. But on vince the Treble builds were causing many bugs and it was too much of a hassle to iron them out so it was easier to just remove Treble so that devs could focus their time on things that are more useful.

And how do I know if my phone is treble?

baby don't hurt me

fede01_8 said:
And how do I know if my phone is treble?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kevintresuelo.treble
Check with this app

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h0ttentot said:
baby don't hurt me
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W h a t i s l o v e
tu tu tu du dudu tu tu dududu

langster- said:
Project Treble is just another fancy catch phrase from google, what it really is, is google taking mobile users one step closer to being locked into to their closed source monopoly structured cloud based services.
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Did you smoke the wrong stuff?

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Xorianator said:
Did you smoke the wrong stuff?
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Lmao

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native signature spoofing ROMs?

Do any of the ROMs available for the 5x include native signature spoofing support, like Omnirom does? Thanks!
signature spoofing support?? can you please explain??
thilak devraj said:
signature spoofing support?? can you please explain??
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For microG to work properly, one has to use Xposed or a patch like Tingle by @ale5000 in order to spoof the signature of a bunch of google play services. That is, unless they use Omnirom, which allows it to work out of the box. See the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616
animeme said:
For microG to work properly, one has to use Xposed or a patch like Tingle by @ale5000 in order to spoof the signature of a bunch of google play services. That is, unless they use Omnirom, which allows it to work out of the box. See the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616
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sorry, i have heard about the microg , but i have not used it yet
thilak devraj said:
sorry, i have heard about the microg , but i have not used it yet
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There's another link in that thread (the one that says "read here about why it's not") that probably explains how sigspoofing works better than I ever could. But I'm wondering if RR or anything incorporates that particular feature of Omnirom
animeme said:
There's another link in that thread (the one that says "read here about why it's not") that probably explains how sigspoofing works better than I ever could. But I'm wondering if RR or anything incorporates that particular feature of Omnirom
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well, omni is based on aosp, and rr is based on lineage, they has their differences
If you have a know-how/resources, you can manually patch necessary repos and build ROM yourself (I did that for Slim builds on my previous device), commits are available on gerrit, you'll just have to fix some merge conflicts... CM didn't want to support that on CM12.1 (I remember discussion from their gerrit back then), others followed their example, so I guess that is current state of things on Lineage and other CM based ROMs even now...
thilak devraj said:
well, omni is based on aosp, and rr is based on lineage, they has their differences
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I thought I read somewhere that more recent Omni 6/7 builds have been somewhat based on CM as well. Not that that would stop Omni from including sigspoofing, but I guess this is more a question whether RR includes that aspect of Omni in our device's unofficial RR release despite it being based on Lineage
ShadySquirrel said:
If you have a know-how/resources, you can manually patch necessary repos and build ROM yourself (I did that for Slim builds on my previous device), commits are available on gerrit, you'll just have to fix some merge conflicts... CM didn't want to support that on CM12.1 (I remember discussion from their gerrit back then), others followed their example, so I guess that is current state of things on Lineage and other CM based ROMs even now...
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I definitely have neither the knowhow nor the resources. :silly:
(Edit: idk how to link posts, I thought it would combine, sorry)
I guess if I want this sort of support consistently, I'll have to choose my next device based on Omnirom availability...
animeme said:
I definitely have neither the knowhow nor the resources. :silly:
(Edit: idk how to link posts, I thought it would combine, sorry)
I guess if I want this sort of support consistently, I'll have to choose my next device based on Omnirom availability...
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Well, if I ever decide to start working on kiwi, I'll probably patch necessary stuff, you can count on that.. But I still haven't even unlocked and rooted mine (in case I suddenly decide to resell it/replace for something with bit more regular updates - still haven't decided anything, not too happy with software and official support, but to lazy to anything about it).... Who knows when will that happen.
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ShadySquirrel said:
Well, if I ever decide to start working on kiwi, I'll probably patch necessary stuff, you can count on that.. But I still haven't even unlocked and rooted mine (in case I suddenly decide to resell it/replace for something with bit more regular updates - still haven't decided anything, not too happy with software and official support, but to lazy to anything about it).... Who knows when will that happen.
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Youll probably never find any solace in official support/EMUI. Rumor has it that an official Nougat will be released at some point, but my only foray into Nougat gave me horrible battery life. I'm pretty happy with MM.
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Thank you for the tip!
animeme said:
Youll probably never find any solace in official support/EMUI. Rumor has it that an official Nougat will be released at some point, but my only foray into Nougat gave me horrible battery life. I'm pretty happy with MM.
Thank you for the tip!
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"At some point" can be deep into 2017 or never but ok, I'm used to that, had a LG device which suddenly went out-of-support after not even full year of life. And it was a flagship. I'd be glad if even monthly patches are kind of regular... just dreams, haha.
animeme said:
I thought I read somewhere that more recent Omni 6/7 builds have been somewhat based on CM as well. Not that that would stop Omni from including sigspoofing, but I guess this is more a question whether RR includes that aspect of Omni in our device's unofficial RR release despite it being based on Lineage
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Include the patch is really simple for any ROM, it doesn't depend on anything particular, it is just a choice of the one that build it.
The official patches are here.
animeme said:
I thought I read somewhere that more recent Omni 6/7 builds have been somewhat based on CM as well. Not that that would stop Omni from including sigspoofing, but I guess this is more a question whether RR includes that aspect of Omni in our device's unofficial RR release despite it being based on Lineage
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you should ask any dev, they might help
thilak devraj said:
you should ask any dev, they might help
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I'd probably ask if anyone would build Omnirom for this device. Idk if a dev wants to change their current ROMs just for this feature
There is a setting available in CrDroid
animeme said:
I'd probably ask if anyone would build Omnirom for this device. Idk if a dev wants to change their current ROMs just for this feature
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there has been attempts to build omniro.. stay tuned..
rodolphe06 said:
There is a setting available in CrDroid
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Awesome! Fantastic find, thank you for sharing.
thilak devraj said:
there has been attempts to build omniro.. stay tuned..
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If you need help testing it, just let me know!
animeme said:
Awesome! Fantastic find, thank you for sharing.
If you need help testing it, just let me know!
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yeah we will count you in bro.. jion our discussion thread
I tried crDroid and spoofing worked like a charm, but for some reason my battery does not like Nougat. Has MM development/building completely ceased for the 5x?

Is project treble supported by kenzo?

I am curious that is kenzo able to boot a GSI image? I haven't found anything related to kenzo treble support but most of the xiaomi phones support project treble. Is there any way to make it work?
No news
spshubham53 said:
I am curious that is kenzo able to boot a GSI image? I haven't found anything related to kenzo treble support but most of the xiaomi phones support project treble. Is there any way to make it work?
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Kenzo already is treble supported.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/help/treble-support-kenzo-t3794886
No Not Yet But I hope Devs Will after This
Please check your links while posting ..... This isn't I'm asking. ?
Never say never...
https://github.com/Treble-RN3
spshubham53 said:
most of the xiaomi phones support project treble. Is there any way to make it work?
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U really dont know what project treble is. So go through google search before asking.
Project treble is not some kind of lever or switch which you can enable. And who told u that most xiaomi phone support it?
Project treble is not worth for existing phones. Its xiaomi who should give it.
To make device trebelize.
1) device should have vendor partition.
2)device should have vendor blobs written in binderized format. And it should be wrapped HIDL.
Our kenzo have old marshmallow blobs written in legacy. So cant support.
Only hydrogen has same hardware and soc to kenzo.
So pray for hydrogen to get miui oreo. We will copy oreo blobs from hydrogen to make treble. Thats the only hope.
Thanx mate.
We can wait no issues!
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spshubham53 said:
Thanx mate.
We can wait no issues!
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Dude.....dont reply to thread. U need to reply to the person.
If u want to reply to me Press quote or reply button directly below my post . How will i get notify if u replying to thread and not my post.

no treble rom

Last month's when ROM starts to come their are lots of treble ROMs available but all roms are turning to non treble any specific reason
Any specific reason for you wanting treble.
harishmenace said:
Any specific reason for you wanting treble.
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Android p gsi when googel is releasing

Is there anyone with linux running?

I was wondering if anyone Here is running Linux
Why? Probably everyone wants a "usable" Version of RR or Pixel dust
And it would be highly apreciated if that guy who has it would Compile a Rom for us (Please no GSI)
That's not how it works.
Building with Linux is only the last 10% of the process. The reason why there's no RR or PD for this phone is that no one has made the source code for it yet.
iH8Ecchi said:
That's not how it works.
Building with Linux is only the last 10% of the process. The reason why there's no RR or PD for this phone is that no one has made the source code for it yet.
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Oh Wut.....okay but why did i find a non Working zip of pixel experience on andeoidfilehost when i have gone to: people developing for xperia x?
Someone already Tried and its only 14 days ago
Some random said:
why did i find a non Working zip of pixel experience on andeoidfilehost
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Could be either fake, a pre-packed GSI, or a port from some community outside of xda.
The only certain thing is that it's not official.
iH8Ecchi said:
Could be either fake, a pre-packed GSI, or a port from some community outside of xda.
The only certain thing is that it's not official.
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It has unnofficial in the package name

Question LineageOS

Now that Kernel source has been released by the manufacturer.
Here's hoping Lineage/ArrowOS/CrDroid/Havoc/AOSP is released for this brilliant value-for-money device!
Those ROMs doesn't require kernel source.
You can already run all those ROMs on OP Nord2 as GSI.
phhusson said:
Those ROMs doesn't require kernel source.
You can already run all those ROMs on OP Nord2 as GSI.
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Soo when can we expect official roms ? Waiting since launch day.
phhusson said:
Those ROMs doesn't require kernel source.
You can already run all those ROMs on OP Nord2 as GSI.
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Is there another way to run ROMs then?
Is GSI some emulator style? Why do devs crib about Mediatek sources not being available? Is there another way of making ROMs in a native way? This is the first time I'm reading about something called as GSI ?!
LeDiable said:
Is there another way to run ROMs then?
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I don't understand that question
LeDiable said:
Is GSI some emulator style?
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Not at all, it runs natively just like stock rom.
The idea of a GSI is simply that we keep the drivers from stock ROM. They are working perfectly fine for stock ROM users, there is no reason those drivers wouldn't work fine for us.
LeDiable said:
Why do devs crib about Mediatek sources not being available?
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Honestly? I'd say stubborness. Yes, we can use sources of more drivers on Qualcomm devices than on Mediatek devices, but to what end? Everytime needed sources of a driver on a Qualcomm platform, its sources were not available at all.
On Mediatek side, there is some source code available, but from shady origin, so they can be used to learn more about how Mediatek drivers work, but it can't be used to build drivers directly from sources. Again, we can just use stock ROM's drivers.
LeDiable said:
Is there another way of making ROMs in a native way?
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GSI are native.
LeDiable said:
This is the first time I'm reading about something called as GSI ?!
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Yeah well GSI are severely underrated, because you can't make a news about a generic image working on a new device at every new device...

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