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Don't hesitate to post your settings, samples and comparisons !
Before installing
If you have installed an update of Oneplus Camera before, you have to understand that the update is "above" the original system application. Because my mod replace the original system application, you will never see a difference because the current app will be the updated app and not the system app.
To remove the update, go into the App Info of Oneplus Camera, press the tree dots in the top right and press "Uninstall Updates".
Changelog
Code:
[B]2018-09-23[/B]
- Based on 2.8.20 (New UI design and others improvements)
- Fix issue of wrong orientation
- Compatible with Android 8.1 and 9
[B]2018-08-12 TEST [/B]
- First release
- Based on new version 2.7.3
- Possibility to control sharpness post-applied
- Possibility to control noise reduction
- Only working on OP6 ! I don't have made a version compatible both for OP5 and OP6 yet.
- This is a test version. I hope everyone plays with options available to find out bests configurations at certain conditions (bright light, mid-light and low-light). I can after that define a pattern to be applied according to what you decide.
Downloads
Magisk Module
Older (2018-08-12 TEST)
Big credits for
@Arnova8G2 , massive thanks for helping me understand better Camera2 API and motivates me to do all this. Without him, this mod would be not here today.
@DorianX for finding solution to get Panorama working
Reserved
Installed and it's working perfectly!
It is dark here so I'll do more testing next morning.
WHOA
My biggest issue on the OP6 camera is the heavy oversharpening and too much noise reduction (aka water color effect). I rather have a little bit of grain like Gcam does while showing way more fine detail and texture.
Let's see what this one does.
Please add a saturation, tint (the OP6 is quite on the magenta side) and contrast slider if possible
Will do some tests and comparisons tomorrow.
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My first observations:
Edge sharpening off doesn't mean sharpening is off. The picture is a bit cleaner already though - no more oil-painting effect. I wish it would be possible to dial it down even further though.
Noise reduction off means that chroma reduction still works the same but luma noise reduction is greatly reduced. Way more detail but also some film-like grain. Fast and minimal cause too much of a detail and texture loss. Off is perfect in terms of detail, but lots of noise. Is it possible to have something in-between?
The picture output is way closer to gcam!
Thanks for the mod! @txx1219
Will keep me from using gcam in many situations.
Damm!
Now that i going return the phone!!
Using the app from now. Tomorrow I will do tests to see how.
Thanks!!!
deezid said:
WHOA
My biggest issue on the OP6 camera is the heavy oversharpening and too much noise reduction (aka water color effect). I rather have a little bit of grain like Gcam does while showing way more fine detail and texture.
Let's see what this one does.
Please add a saturation, tint (the OP6 is quite on the magenta side) and contrast slider if possible
Will do some tests and comparisons tomorrow.
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My first observations:
Edge sharpening off doesn't mean sharpening is off. The picture is a bit cleaner already though - no more oil-painting effect. I wish it would be possible to dial it down even further though.
Noise reduction off means that chroma reduction still works the same but luma noise reduction is greatly reduced. Way more detail but also some film-like grain. Fast and minimal cause too much of a detail and texture loss. Off is perfect in terms of detail, but lots of noise. Is it possible to have something in-between?
The picture output is way closer to gcam!
Thanks for the mod! @txx1219
Will keep me from using gcam in many situations.
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What I don't like about the stock cam is that it's never sharp enough and always tries to smooth everything out which I hate. It would be nice to have the pic process exactly the way it is shown in the viewfinder before you take it. The Google Camera's that we have are much sharper but have too many other bugs. This camera M doesn't really take good quality photos. It's similar quality to the ones on the older builds of Lineage custom roms before the camera fixes were applied.
But Potraits images are better on stock OOS AS compared to camera M
Installed it on the DP3, seems that it works but the camera app looks funky.
Is it possible that you could apply these mods to the Android P cam? Here is the download link from the APK i pulled from beta 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6a4zto66rrrt62n/OnePlusCamera.apk/file Thank you!
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Is it possible that you could apply these mods to the Android P cam? Here is the download link from the APK i pulled from beta 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6a4zto66rrrt62n/OnePlusCamera.apk/file Thank you!
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Why not wait till the final android p release? No doubt that the camera apk will be updated also then
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
deezid said:
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
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Really good photos and nice garden too
The amount of detail missing between the 1st photo and the last photo is shocking, for me personally fast+no nr is the best option by far.
daleski75 said:
Really good photos and nice garden too
Which settings did you use for the 3rd photo?
The amount of detail missing between the 1st photo and the last photo is shocking, for me personally fast+no nr is the best option by far.
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Thanks, it's set to "fast" for both sharpening and noise reduction.
Both fast is the best Option?
SpectraFun said:
Both fast is the best Option?
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I would say so, until we have the option to dial noise reduction and especially sharpening even further down. OFF is too much for this tiny sensor.
OnePlus camera M for op6, :good:
Thank you.
deezid said:
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
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That's the issue, there is no options between off and fast.
I'm glad to see that we have the same conclusion : Fast - Fast is the best compromise at the moment.
Also, avoid as much the ZSL - ZSL combination because it produces a lot of oil-painting inconsistent pictures.
My recommandations at the moment are Fast-Fast on good light condition and HQ - HQ on low light condition.
txx1219 said:
That's the issue, there is no options between off and fast.
I'm glad to see that we have the same conclusion : Fast - Fast is the best compromise at the moment.
Also, avoid as much the ZSL - ZSL combination because it produces a lot of oil-painting inconsistent pictures.
My recommandations at the moment are Fast-Fast on good light condition and HQ - HQ on low light condition.
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Pity, really hoped there was something in-between. Maybe let the camera 2 versions (off/fast) at the same time and combine them at 50/50. lol
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Despite the limitations it's nice to have some control over the camera and it's surprised me at just how over processed the image is when using the default options.
I take it the changes we can make affect both the front and rear cameras together?
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hi guys, i took a look around the forum regarding high lvls of noise in the pictures in low light conditions, but mine just seems to be worse! this pic was taken on auto, in a corner of the room. 5.22pm, with the sunlight behind me. this happens in the video too; other videos taken at night(on youtube) that i've seen seem to be almost grain free. should i get a replacement?
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here's a short video taken in the same room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bCXYfM62Vw&feature=youtu.be
For sure that camera didnt work correct
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I have same thing! Maybe even worst. Picture I just take is with outdoor light thats coming through window.
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Chagrim said:
I have same thing! Maybe even worst. Picture I just take is with outdoor light thats coming through window.
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oh boy that's indeed worse...why do others have such good quality? i wonder if it's hardware =(
here's a shot of the street; this is so frustrating ='(
I think some of you guys expect to much from a mobile phone camera, this is not a DSLR or EOS. The camera makes descent pictures with sufficient lighting but not in the dark or darker twilight condition.
gee2012 said:
I think some of you guys expect to much from a mobile phone camera, this is not a DSLR or EOS. The camera makes descent pictures with sufficient lighting but not in the dark or darker twilight condition.
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i scoured the whole forum, and i've seen pics with better quality in worse conditions..and apparently this is due to the firmware version(Z being inferior samsung sensor, G sony). double checked with friends who have good/bad pics and their firmware versions so im pretty sure now. just sent an email to samsung...i'm pretty pissed about this. can this be considered fraud?! same price for inferior products -_-"
SexyIceCream said:
i scoured the whole forum, and i've seen pics with better quality in worse conditions..and apparently this is due to the firmware version(Z being inferior samsung sensor, G sony). double checked with friends who have good/bad pics and their firmware versions so im pretty sure now. just sent an email to samsung...i'm pretty pissed about this. can this be considered fraud?! same price for inferior products -_-"
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Sony has a better camera, especialy with low lighting. The best camera phone is still the N8. No it`s not fraude because you buy a phone as it is, not as you want it to be.
check camera settings.
Try manually selecting a lower iso.. that will reduce the noise, but results in a darker shot or longer shutter speed.
You can't just post a picture without specifying the iso and shutter speed to tell if the camera is taking worse pictures.. especially since every environment is different.
gee2012 said:
I think some of you guys expect to much from a mobile phone camera, this is not a DSLR or EOS. The camera makes descent pictures with sufficient lighting but not in the dark or darker twilight condition.
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Yes that's true! But my HTC ONE S and the oldest GS2 makes better picture than my GS3!
I hope SAMSUNG will fix it...
BlueG2 said:
Try manually selecting a lower iso.. that will reduce the noise, but results in a darker shot or longer shutter speed.
You can't just post a picture without specifying the iso and shutter speed to tell if the camera is taking worse pictures.. especially since every environment is different.
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true that...i'll keep that in mind as i try to take more test shots. but the video should be obivous too, right? since theres no mode or such for the video. other youtube videos i've seen of indoors have close to no noise, but it runs rampant in mine.
P.S. this is a pic i found on another s3 forum, person claims it was taken on auto.
heres my shot of a street, also on auto
you see the difference? =(
Auto contrast off
try it
SexyIceCream said:
P.S. this is a pic i found on another s3 forum, person claims it was taken on auto.
heres my shot of a street, also on auto
you see the difference? =(
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Like I said, Auto doesn't mean anything.. people need to specify the same setting to compare photos. The metering from the camera can easily be thrown off with a bright light or dark area causing the camera to select different ISO/shutter speeds even at the same location. Different camera firmwares between units may also cause for different 'auto' settings. Even using different camera apps can effect the image quality and settings.
I just took a peek at your photo and the file info showed that it was shot at 1600iso. That would explain all the noise and why your image seems 'brighter' than the photo you found as 1600iso is very high (I think highest). I can't even get my camera to shoot below 800iso even in the darkest settings (not that I'd want to). That 800-1600iso jump makes a big impact on image quality.
On the photo you found, the camera info also wasn't available so the picture might even be edited. I'm going to guess however that it was shot at 800iso.. and definitely much less than your 1600.
So I can't say there's anything wrong with your images you provided as I would expect that type of quality on those settings.
SexyIceCream said:
hi guys, i took a look around the forum
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do u have antishake and auto contrast ON? if yes turn them off and when u take a pic u have to be REALLY still, otherwise the pics will be blurry, also u can try taking a pic with HDR mode, it makes a huge difference
gee2012 said:
Sony has a better camera, especialy with low lighting. The best camera phone is still the N8. No it`s not fraude because you buy a phone as it is, not as you want it to be.
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Off-topic here: Isn't the new Lumia 808 better at taking pictures than the N8?
On-topic: my SGS3 also takes bad pictures on low light, but I have yet to see anything other than a full-blown camera do otherwise. It does seem to get better with any of the following:
HDR Shooting Mode
Night Scene Mode (slower shutter)
Manually set lower ISO (takes darker pics)
You would have same result if the condition and settings are the same...
Every image will become worst if it has high ISO... Manually lower your ISO and you will have a better image... You may need a better lighting for this... I just dont know if it's possible to control manually the hutter speed of galaxy s3 for low ISO settings?
wicked1683 said:
You would have same result if the condition and settings are the same...
Every image will become worst if it has high ISO... Manually lower your ISO and you will have a better image... You may need a better lighting for this... I just dont know if it's possible to control manually the hutter speed of galaxy s3 for low ISO settings?
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Camera FV-5
will let you control the shutter speed.
But in my exprince the photos arnt that good . i have tried only indoors.
it produce like BW pics.
But then i am no expert in shutter timers and such. but you can try it.
scroll down to see my post with updated pics with the new tricks!!
so one thing i noticed is that the camera doesn't light up the flash to focus when you have the flash on like most other phones do (the S3 is one)
this makes low light shots 10x worse on the DNA than the S3 for example. If there was a way to make the camera flash while focusing so it can actually get that thing in focus in the dark, then i believe low light pictures would come out much better.
i've tried Camera JB+ but it's the same as the stock...wonder if theres a cmaera app out there that uses the flash while focusing? any thoughts?
here's two pics:
http://imgur.com/a/Bb5ju
the first is the S3. the second is the DNA. since when you focus with the S3, the flash comes on, it was easily able to focus and get a better shot. on the DNA, it was blindly focusing on whatever, despite the fact the screen was black since there was no light in the room.
you can also notice how soft the DNA seems...which is the post-processing "auto enhance" crap that HTC forced us to use on this camera. on my Rezound, i always turned that off because it looked awful, and now they're not giving us a chance to.
I'm very interested in the answer to this, as I think that low-light shots with flash are absolute garbage on the DNA. I love everything about the phone except for that. I think even my old Blunderbolt did better.
earthrocker said:
so one thing i noticed is that the camera doesn't light up the flash to focus when you have the flash on like most other phones do (the S3 is one)
this makes low light shots 10x worse on the DNA than the S3 for example. If there was a way to make the camera flash while focusing so it can actually get that thing in focus in the dark, then i believe low light pictures would come out much better.
i've tried Camera JB+ but it's the same as the stock...wonder if theres a cmaera app out there that uses the flash while focusing? any thoughts?
here's two pics:
http://imgur.com/a/Bb5ju
the first is the S3. the second is the DNA. since when you focus with the S3, the flash comes on, it was easily able to focus and get a better shot. on the DNA, it was blindly focusing on whatever, despite the fact the screen was black since there was no light in the room.
you can also notice how soft the DNA seems...which is the post-processing "auto enhance" crap that HTC forced us to use on this camera. on my Rezound, i always turned that off because it looked awful, and now they're not giving us a chance to.
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odesskiy said:
I'm very interested in the answer to this, as I think that low-light shots with flash are absolute garbage on the DNA. I love everything about the phone except for that. I think even my old Blunderbolt did better.
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the big problem here is Auto ISO. do me a favor, turn the ISO to 200, and then try to take a low-light photo with flash. It may be very hard to focus on exactly where you want, but i guarantee there will be MUCH less noise. the ISO over-compensates, and at auto, its very grainy. i took pitch black shots last night at iso 200 and 400 with flash on, and to my surprise there wasn't much noise.
also, turn your sharpness up +1. this helps compensate for HTC's built in auto-enhance, which tends to "blur" the background out to try to get rid of noise..the rezound had this too, and i always had it off because it looks terrible. unfortunately, on the DNA, you can't turn it off yet.
I know it's not the solution you were looking for, but on my Rezound if I were taking very low light shots I'd turn on my flashlight app first, so the flash would be on permanently. The phone would then both focus with and take the photo with the flash on.
Until such time as a solution is found, feel free to try my hassle of a work-around haha
xxfallacyxx said:
I know it's not the solution you were looking for, but on my Rezound if I were taking very low light shots I'd turn on my flashlight app first, so the flash would be on permanently. The phone would then both focus with and take the photo with the flash on.
Until such time as a solution is found, feel free to try my hassle of a work-around haha
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hey thanks for the tip! what app did you use to do it? that would be great, but unfortunately, the flashlight shuts off the second i enter the camera app :\
It might just be part of the ROM I'm on, but I use the flashlight toggle from the quick-settings pull down menu. If that's the case, then I apologize for getting your hopes up haha.
ahh dang! yeah, tiny flashlihgt doesn't let me keep it on when going into the camera app
earthrocker said:
the big problem here is Auto ISO. do me a favor, turn the ISO to 200, and then try to take a low-light photo with flash. It may be very hard to focus on exactly where you want, but i guarantee there will be MUCH less noise. the ISO over-compensates, and at auto, its very grainy. i took pitch black shots last night at iso 200 and 400 with flash on, and to my surprise there wasn't much noise.
also, turn your sharpness up +1. this helps compensate for HTC's built in auto-enhance, which tends to "blur" the background out to try to get rid of noise..the rezound had this too, and i always had it off because it looks terrible. unfortunately, on the DNA, you can't turn it off yet.
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and change white balance to flourescent, this will make photo not yellowish.
Sweet! I'm gonna try this tonight at home. I've been trying to take pictures of my Xmas tree, which is really beautiful and photos were coming out horrid. Too bad you can't save all these settings to some sort of a preset to be enabled quickly for low-light shots
guys, I've figured out the secret to low light shots! the pic I took looks identical to the gs3 now, from what I can tell on my dna. check it out!
set your iso to 200...always use 200 for least noise possible. put sharpness up + 1. then, the secret here, jack exposure up ALL THE WAY! bam! great night shots with flash that even focus decently too. your screen will be black bevsuseThe iso is so low, but take the pic and you'll see!
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Holy crap! That totally worked! Much, much better results! Now we need some sort of a settings switcher for the camera
Check the contrast
Hey all, this is my first post and I know that I'm a noob - glad I got that out of the way.
As I read these posts and looked at the settings on my DNA, I found that by defult HTC sets their contrast WAY too high - it actually makes the pictures look darker. So I suggest that you play around with the contrast. I lowered it all the way down and my scenes look brighter and cleaner.
Yes, ISO 200 and 400 work best. Also, if you want to make your images looks 'artsy,' the camera app has built in filters.
Well, that's all I have for you all.
Later.
xeroatticus said:
Hey all, this is my first post and I know that I'm a noob - glad I got that out of the way.
As I read these posts and looked at the settings on my DNA, I found that by defult HTC sets their contrast WAY too high - it actually makes the pictures look darker. So I suggest that you play around with the contrast. I lowered it all the way down and my scenes look brighter and cleaner.
Yes, ISO 200 and 400 work best. Also, if you want to make your images looks 'artsy,' the camera app has built in filters.
Well, that's all I have for you all.
Later.
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hey, thanks for the contribution! i'm going to give the contrast a shot now. i never really played that much around with that, just ISO and exposure. thanks!
ok so here's a small contrast comparison:
the first picture is contrast -1
the second picture is stock contrast
which looks better to you?
http://imgur.com/a/Jjplk
earthrocker said:
ok so here's a small contrast comparison:
the first picture is contrast -1
the second picture is stock contrast
which looks better to you?
http://imgur.com/a/Jjplk
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tonight i'm going to try some night shots again, wtih the same liquor cabinet pic, but make the contrast -1 and -2 and throw them up here.
Great thread and info guys. Always looking to make phone camera pics the best possible...
Some of my own tests
Hey, I like the first image: the one that has stock contrast.
I will also be making some tests, I will post them soon.
HDR is also a great option under well lit conditions. It will give the the greatest range.
xeroatticus said:
Hey, I like the first image: the one that has stock contrast.
I will also be making some tests, I will post them soon.
HDR is also a great option under well lit conditions. It will give the the greatest range.
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to be honest, i never really knew what HDR meant or did lol sometimes it looks great, soemtimes terrible
xeroatticus said:
Hey, I like the first image: the one that has stock contrast.
I will also be making some tests, I will post them soon.
HDR is also a great option under well lit conditions. It will give the the greatest range.
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btw the first pic is the -1 contrast..second is stock..
Very interesting thread!
Hey Guys,
I got my Note about 2 weeks ago and have noticed that the camera and pictures are unusually grainy/noisy and the auto focus is subpar which results in blurry pictures. I have messed with the ISO settings changing it to 100 and 200.. which seems to help some, but its still noticeable as well as the settings dont save. I have tried 3rd party apps as well, still the problem persists. I've also compared my camera and photos to a buddy's Sprint Note 2 and his are far superior. My next step is to go to Verizon, but i just wanted to see if anyone else was having issues. I have heard that it could probably be the Drivers and that it might be fixed with an update, hopefully so, because of now, im highly disappointed.
any input or advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Josh
That doesn't sound right, I get great pics from mine.
Obviously they are not as good as my EOS 1D Canon DSLR but they are amazing for a camera phone IMHO.
Here is a shot I took in a very dimly lit room where I wasn't even sure the pics would come out:
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
I took over 100 shots and they all came out great. I printed an 8"x10" pic from this and nobody can believe it's from my phone.
I have used Camera ZoomFX or Camera FV-5 (to save RAW images) in my last 3-4 phones.
it's definitely not right.
to get even a decent picture, i have to manually set the ISO to 100 or 200, then focus (because the auto focus is terrible as well) and then if i move even the slightest, the picture comes out blurry.
Moose1988 said:
it's definitely not right.
to get even a decent picture, i have to manually set the ISO to 100 or 200, then focus (because the auto focus is terrible as well) and then if i move even the slightest, the picture comes out blurry.
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You have anti shake on?
Like most phones I find pics pretty bad if im not in bright light...or using flash..
And manually setting the iso at 100 in dark conditions is obviously gonna blur..youre better off using the flash and turning the exposure down a bit
bendystrawboy said:
You have anti shake on?
Like most phones I find pics pretty bad if im not in bright light...or using flash..
And manually setting the iso at 100 in dark conditions is obviously gonna blur..youre better off using the flash and turning the exposure down a bit
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well when setting the ISO to lower levels, Anti Shake is greyed out.
and everything in low light is gonna blur, yeah.. but im talking about all the time. regardless of light. I can get somewhat better pictures when I adjust the settings, but, that is somewhat time consuming when wanting to take a quick picture, especially since it doesnt save the settings I choose.
I am having the same problem. No solution yet.
Is your camera lense dirty? Wipe it with a microfiber cloth or something.
I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture. I've got it set to single shot, highest resolution, auto iso and auto exposure and still get some noisy pics and blurry faces. Not sure what it is....
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gime_time said:
I am having the same problem. No solution yet.
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Maybe an update will help. Here's to hoping
nnnnr14 said:
Is your camera lense dirty? Wipe it with a microfiber cloth or something.
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I make sure its clean everytime. I thought that might be it but no. Its more of a grain.. like its the software or a driver issue
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I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture. I've got it set to single shot, highest resolution, auto iso and auto exposure and still get some noisy pics and blurry faces. Not sure what it is....
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Yeah exactly. I have the same exact issues.
Could it be a Verizon Note issue?
I just did some testing, seems anti shake adds an enormous amount of noise to images, as does auto contrast.
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I just did some testing, seems anti shake adds an enormous amount of noise to images, as does auto contrast.
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I never use either of those settings, but I'm definitely surprised that as ruins the image like that.
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I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture.
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LOL, no big surprise there.
Some real digital cameras are going to have that problem..
I don't think its the anti shake as I have mine turned off. I have my flash set to off but maybe because the room I'm in isn't bright enough so it's pumping up the iso to capture the shot and thus its grainier..
But I've still notice that it's hard to get a good picture of moving subjects like kids oe dogs as it doesn't seem to focus on the right place or the focus point moves to easily.
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But I've still notice that it's hard to get a good picture of moving subjects like kids oe dogs as it doesn't seem to focus on the right place or the focus point moves to easily.
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These are some of the main reasons people buy DSLRs. NO little dc is going to be fast enough for any kind of action shots.
I have done pro photography for years. When I want to take any kind of action (especially in lower light like you typically find inside your house), I grab my DSLR with a fast lens. That camera will shoot 8 frames per second, all in perfect focus, stops all action and will do it easily in lower light conditions.
The camera phone however works great if you give it half a chance. If you are taking a posed shot (like the one I posted where the girls were not moving) and have enough light (use the flash if necessary) then the phone and its tiny little lens and sensor will give very decent results.
I have been playing with the camera a ton in the last couple days using this app:
http://www.camerafv5.com/
The more I practice with it, the more impressed I am with this device.
If you understand basic photography, FV-5 gives you tons of ways to very quickly/easily make a fast settings change with one fast click to change things like the auto focus point, white balance setting etc to give really outstanding results within the limitations of the actual hardware.
Posters talk about an update like that will magically cure why they can't take a decent picture. No update is going to fix blurry pics when the cause of that is user error (and reading some of these posts it is obvious to me that is the case).
Posters are expecting results that are way beyond the capabilities of a device that is a phone first and also happens to also take snapshots. Expecting it to capture perfectly focused, sharp images of your kid or dog running around the yard is ridiculous. That is the job of a DSLR, even some of the better dedicated DCs will struggle with those kind of shots.
There are two basic settings that apply to any picture taken, F stop (how much light the lens lets in) and shutter speed (how long the shutter stays open while snapping the picture). Both these settings are adjustable on the better quality digital cameras. The faster the shutter speed, the better it is for stopping action. If you shoot at say 1/1000 of a second, you can shoot a clear pic of a race car. On the other hand, 1/15 of a second is so slow that even a slight twitch on the photographers part will result in a blurry image.
With the phone cameras, you don't have the luxury of altering these settings much (if there is any adjustment at all). With the tiny lens of the N2 (or ANY camera phone) you cannot alter the F stop setting at all, it is what's called a fixed aperature and is not adjustable. That only leaves the shutter speed to change to get the correct exposure for any particular shot.
Using Camera FV-5, you can get a small amount of manual control to make that shutter speed faster (better to stop movement) but it doesn't help all that much because if you pick a really fast/short shutter speed the image will usually come out way too dark as it is not letting in enough light to properly expose the image. With a good quality DC, you would open up the F stop more to compensate for this, but you can't do that with the fixed aperature phone camera lens (which is so tiny it doesn't let in much light to begin with)
Camera FV-5 gives you more control than the stock camera app which gives you no control al all, but the tiny lens/sensor etc can only do just so much. I have simplified a lot of this info to make it easier to understand, but the same basic principles apply to any camera all the way back to film cameras.
To take better pics with the N2, try to...
1: hold the camera as still as possible, brace it against something to help with this if possible
2: provide as much light as possible. Either add more ambient light or use the flash (or both)
3: don't expect results that equal a good quality digital camera, the N2 works great for basically posed snapshots etc. If you're trying to shhot your kids Varsity Basketball league or your 2 year old chasing the dog around the back yard get yourself a basic DSLR.
Well for me... I do know how to use a camera.. I've set all the settings, I know basic photography. I know its a phone camera, but my thunderbolt took better pictures than this. To me it seems like a phone issue... NOT a user issue. Thanks for the lesson though. Appreciate it. :good:
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Well for me... I do know how to use a camera.. I've set all the settings, I know basic photography. I know its a phone camera, but my thunderbolt took better pictures than this. To me it seems like a phone issue... NOT a user issue. Thanks for the lesson though. Appreciate it. :good:
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So maybe it is a phone issue, maybe yours has defective hardware??
I'm hoping so. It really seems more grainy than it should be. I still need to go to Verizon and check another Note 2.
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I never use either of those settings, but I'm definitely surprised that as ruins the image like that.
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LOL, no big surprise there.
Some real digital cameras are going to have that problem..
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I'm not talking about kids running around but rather them sitting still long a full 2-3s so I can snap a good picture without them moving their head. I don't have problems with my gnex camera at all in the same location. I seem to be having similar focus or grainy images that the op is seeing.
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The problem is that your last phone was an htc. Im coming from a Rezound and that camera was way better than this one. Never really even mess with the settings on the Rezound and the pictures always came out crisp and detailed.
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The problem is that your last phone was an htc. Im coming from a Rezound and that camera was way better than this one. Never really even mess with the settings on the Rezound and the pictures always came out crisp and detailed.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative here at all, but I don't agree with this.
I still have two Rezounds and I rarely used the cameras because even though I kept reading how awesome the Rezound camera was I was never overly impressed with mine. I recently compared identical shots from one of the Rezounds with my N2. I left both on full auto so it was a fair comparison.
All the shots from the N2 came out perfect while the shots from the Rezound varied considerably. Some of the Rezound shots where too dark and others missed the focus point.
I really think some of you guys may have defective N2s and should go back to verizon and compare yours to another unit to compare results. My N2 is the first phone camera that works so well for me that I don't feel the need to carry an extra small P&S camera with me along with the phone.
I took over 100 shots of a Christmas party for my 12 year old daughters soccer team. I sent them to all the parents of the girls and they are thrilled with the shots. I took them inside where the light was not that great and most other phone cameras would have produced disastrous results. The shots are all perfectly exposed and it only missed the AF point on a couple shots.
The parents have all seen me shooting with my Canon EOS 1D DSLR over the years and naturally assumed that was what I was using to take the shots. When I told them the shots all came from my phone they where astounded. I printed a few 8"x10" shots for some of the parents and they can't believe it was possible to get a shot of that quality from a phone.
One of them told me yesterday they had framed the shot and hung it in their family room. Now, granted I have been doing photography professionally for years and I will always take better pictures in most situations without even thinking about it but I don't think that's the case here. I had my wife take some shots with the note to make sure that it wasn't just me. Her results where not as good as mine, but they where just fine as far as the camera performance.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are some some daytime shots comparisons with an Lg G4. Just move the slider to view one photo or the other...
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thanks
the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Wow! The Edge does so much better! Way to much brightness and less detail on the G4.
There is a bit too much sharpening on the third comparison on the Edge side, but it still looks better than the G4 that is kind of blurry.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
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When looking at full screen colours on the cars are better on the g4 for picture number 1. However, I really feel the contrast and white balance are better on the s7. Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Good point. On the other hand, in the same picture the S7E missed the different colour of the sky/clouds at the end of the alleyway, trough the branches. The next comparison shows similar stuff - in the one with the statue - the G4 captures more of the color in the sky (actually closer to what it was in reality). While in the third one both are similar sky-wise.
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a
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Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a bigger sensor like Panasonic did with the CM1. I would have loved to see a CM2! Their 20MPx was producing better results than most dedicated cameras!
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Anyway out of some software bugs with the S7 (Samsung mail crashed in loops and Play Store kept saying data in background need to be activated when they were already... each time solved by a restart, the S7 is a nice piece of technology.
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Phil
Took a picture of our new Pup, first picture using the the S7 edge.
Impressed with how awesome it came out, just used a tool to blur the background around him.
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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Those of us coming from less than spectacular cameras, such as me (HTC one m8), I'm finding the camera incredibly awesome. I got this phone mainly for the camera. The focus is super quick, the color reproduction is very good and I do enjoy the pro more the Galaxy S7 offers.
Were this pictures taken with manual or auto mode on G4, since my son had a G4 and it's auto mode really sucks.
Getting excited .. wish it's 18th now that I can take my hands on this beast..
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Loss of detail in normal/good light conditions vs Note 4 / S5
S7 camera looks a bit over sharpened for my taste at the same time there is more details in every picture (shooting raw will be a solution for this).
Colors looks better and more realistic on the S7 (not knowing how the original scene looks), but the first shot is a bit too much contrast.
Overall the S7 is the better camera in this shootout.
pogi.paul0119 said:
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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i saw an article in GSM arena wherein they compared the Sony and Samsung Sensors and theres no much difference.. they are both good in different aspects
Front facing camera focus issue
Anyone else have issues with the front facing camera not focusing?
Here are two pictures as examples, one with the front facing and the other with the rear camera
This shooter is top notch. Love the Pro mode. That's the killer app I've been waiting for from Samsung or Android. The manual controls are easy to toggle and the snappy hardware enhances the experience.
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Please Samsung, ease down on the artificial image sharpening: youtube.com/watch?v=OR5UziCqXew
Have anyone tried 10 sek shutter by hand? Is it possible to hold it still enough?
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
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ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
Have you tried the high efficiency pictures option? It saves pictures in HEIF instead of JPEG, maybe it'll help?
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
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ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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The focus should be done to the same point, is not the case for Samples A, and you should share what is the complete camera configuration including the Camera Assistant.
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Any specific one? There are multiple threads on this topic. This one?
Image quality not great
Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?
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As mentioned I have found it possible to reproduce the "more natural" GCAM results by tweaking down saturation, shadows, and brightness a few clicks in pro mode. Don't see a reason to futz with GCAM at the moment but open to changing my mind.
Speaking of which, why did Samsung decide to brighten the shadows when you move the slider to the left? Literally every other piece of software brightens shadows when you slide to the right.
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Go back some posts/pageand fibd my gcam vs stock post
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Listen dude, colors are a preference thing and they can be tuned. Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
There is not a single stock phone that can beat gcam in overall output, sure the phone at stock can have a bit more accurate colors, a bit better white balance, and so on, maybe even main video or portrait shots, but thats it, everything else will favor GCAM.
Share you settings from the xml/apk you use, and tell me what do you want to improve, i will help you fix it.
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Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
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Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
citytrader said:
Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
citytrader said:
You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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Example, very low light scene
Let me guess, now you will claim the stock is good and better right?
Stock camera, 1/4 shutter speed, night mode, 5 sec (maximum exposure)
GCAM 1/3 shutter speed, night mode
This why GCAM is a none sense.
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This why GCAM is a none sense.
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
I'm playing with my S23 Ultra for 2 weeks now, and it can sometimes give good results in 50Mpix ExpertRAW, but GCAM is just more reliable. Every time I snap a picture it looks the same, with no halos, artifacts, etc. With the Stock app, it is not the case. Over processing is just ridiculous. And most annoying part is that it, unfortunately, happens in ExpertRAWs as well. On top of that, seems like the process is not being applied in the same way for each of the photo parts. Look at this comparison of the iPhone 14 PRO RAW 48 Mpix (left) and S23 Ultra ExpertRAW 50 Mpix (right).
Look at the center of the picture. For Samsung, the details of the wooden structure are gone. This part of the picture has very strong Noise Reduction applied. Looks just ugly. And then below that block and above, you have parts, that are being processed in another way round - over sharpened. For both pictures, sliders for noise reduction and sharpening are at a minimum. So this is the main reason for using GCAM and not stock software in Samsung.
That said, it is sad that Samsung cannot make processing better, because this sensor has so much potential!
ajarosz said:
Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
citytrader said:
I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
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Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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It Look like artefacts from resizing. For me it is miss for most of the time. If I do not resize the image it ok i woudl say, but only the. If light conditions are perfect, then 50 mix from expert raw is ok and can have more details than gcam. But if there is no enough light, then i was not able to produce anyrhing that is even close to results from gcam. Pictures from stock app and camera raws are very inconsistent. Like I can have picture where in some places I have oversharpened result, while just few pixel in any dirextion from there there is a spot with no details at all because of the noise reduction. I hope that samsung will do something about it. Here is a link to the example of what I am talking about: Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88226029
All this reminds me of S20 Ultra when the 108MP sensor was first introduced. Took more than 6 months to tune the software for it.
I'm bracing for the same bumpy ride here....the current images we are getting are beta quality.