Ram Management on POCOF1 - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
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Free ram is wasted RAM in an OS like android, as it becomes almost full, it will automatically clear the oldest apps so you don't need to worry about that. If you're rooted you can use ram management tweaks like changing minfree values.

Ashish M Shet said:
#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
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To run everything quick and smooth. It keeps everything in RAM to access instantly. This happens with most of the phones with 4GB + ram. Don't worry about it

Ashish M Shet said:
#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
Please retweet the issue guys
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i too was puzzled why , yes free ram is wasted ram theory but i have not installed most of mine own apps yet .surprised nobody bother , what if this phone come with 4 gb ram , it would be maxed out easily

That's not how android ram management works, if you would have 4 GB of ram, the phone would load apps on background up to 2 GB. Free ram is wasted ram, miui ram management is aggressive enough already. You guys need to understand that the phone automatically closes down apps when more ram is needed.

Andreyq123 said:
That's not how android ram management works, if you would have 4 GB of ram, the phone would load apps on background up to 2 GB. Free ram is wasted ram, miui ram management is aggressive enough already. You guys need to understand that the phone automatically closes down apps when more ram is needed.
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good to hear then , i have been manually closing background apps ,guess a habit , back in the day when ram was 1 gb or less, it was precious, haha

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[Q] My RAM usgae is appalling!!!

My RAM (not internal memory) usage is terrible. Out of 190MB I have 63MB free. Anyone have any ideas how I can improve it, or is this normal??
I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1 with Flykernel 12a (well check my SIG for info).
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!
That is normal. In fact, 63MB is quite a lot, usually it'll dip to between 35-40MB.
Why are you bothered by 63MB? After all, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
skymera said:
That is normal. In fact, 63MB is quite a lot, usually it'll dip to between 35-40MB.
Why are you bothered by 63MB? After all, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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I was under the impression it was like a computer, the more ram available, the faster it was...
Is that a wrong assumption?
RAM is fast(er) than flash memory (Which may be used for swap etc).
So loading apps into RAM is beneficial.
While having more RAM is indeed good, having more free generally isn't.
RAM is there to be used. I run CM6.1 and it manages itself fine, so you need not worry
no probs, I'll stop fretting... My Internal storage sits at about 157MB
When I free my RAM I'm getting about ~70Mb maximum but normally 35-45Mb. Remenber that's not Desire HD that's an old phone.
Android's internal memory killer will keep everything OK... There's no need for more RAM to make it faster.
In fact, using taskillers to close apps in the background actually may slow the phone, as the apps have to "reload" fully again, rather than residing in RAM. If that space is needed, it will be freed immediately
So yeah, don't worry about RAM usage whatsoever

[Q] Percentage of RAM used

I've got my device for one day already.
This is my first Sony Android phone and ... compared with my previous HTC old phone, Z2 is perfect.
However I find that the ram usage is terrible. There is only 1.1GB free RAM just after the device is booted up.
That means... the phone has used 1.6~7 GB RAM before I open the browser or games.
Quite ridiculous...
Is it normal? or what can I do for more free RAM
I don't think it's a problem but a good thing. Android has a smart/good RAM management. That means apps are kept in RAM until other apps need more. If you don't like you can try in developer option to play with "don't keep activities" and background process limit".
Right, you want your phone to use as much RAM as it can, this is a good thing. Also notice, the "unused" portion of RAM is also used to cache certain processes android believes you use often or will need. All of this is to speed up access to those applications as much as possible.
Take note on this
What is shown as free ram in linux is actualy freeable ram, your actual free ram is about 5mb
Linux has the motto of free ram wasted ram so when you have around 200mb freeable when your total is 3GB then there is a problem
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How much ram your idle phone use?

Hi, i just wonder why this phone use ram so much high? (mine: usually at 1,7GB). At first time i use this phone it was used about 1.1GB of ram.
I'm trying to compare this phone usage with my previous tablet, samsung galaxy note 10.1 and it just consume about 700MB of 2GB ram it have and at first time i use it consume about only 500MB ram.
For your information, i use almost same app running in my booth device. But..
Why it come so much different? Z2 for sure have 3GB ram (bigger than other) but i think the system at least consume much more ram too than others. Are I'am right? Can u tell me what do you think? And tell us about your idle ram usage too if u can..
denny9unawan said:
Hi, i just wonder why this phone use ram so much high? (mine: usually at 1,7GB). At first time i use this phone it was used about 1.1GB of ram.
I'm trying to compare this phone usage with my previous tablet, samsung galaxy note 10.1 and it just consume about 700MB of 2GB ram it have and at first time i use it consume about only 500MB ram.
For your information, i use almost same app running in my booth device. But..
Why it come so much different? Z2 for sure have 3GB ram (bigger than other) but i think the system at least consume much more ram too than others. Are I'am right? Can u tell me what do you think? And tell us about your idle ram usage too if u can..
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I think nothing of it
Linux is healthy to use ram unlike other OSs when ever you open an app your phone will free ram if needed, its not to hard seeing as how its managed
Your actual free ram is always 15mb but freeable is usualy always %90 of your total ram, ignore how much ram is avaliable
If you want to know more, look up linux ram management
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Looking at RAM usage is entirely pointless.
Apps allocated RAM as they like but the operating system makes all kinds of predictions ahead of time to preallocate blocks of RAM to increase speed, eg when an app requests to allocate some memory the OS gets to instantly go "here you go; hehe sucker I already prepared that earlier".
The OS will more or less allocate as much RAM as you throw at it up to realistic limits. Eg once a tiny app has 1gb of ram the OS will take the educated guess that will be more than enough for it and not allocate any more.
If another app opens up and the OS is running low on memory it will rejig how much it has allocated to apps that never actually requested that much memory.
This happens on any modern OS and is why you should never really care how much RAM things are using.
In Windows under process manager if you looked you would find there is about 10 different ways to look at the RAM usage per app. Unless you really know what the numbers are saying they will all means basically zero in the real world.
Woa.. I never know it before.. Thanks for the info..
Mine 1.5gb used
More then enough
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mine is usually about 1.5 to 1.9GB
keep in mind it caches apps too incase you reuse them, at the top right of the usage screen hit the menu to see the cached apps.
Mine is usually 1.5 to 1.7GB, even I don't run any app...
BTW, I install the app Clean Master ( like CC clean on Windows). And I always do clean Junk file and Boost ram once a day.
Is it good to use this app everyday?
vdanh said:
Mine is usually 1.5 to 1.7GB, even I don't run any app...
BTW, I install the app Clean Master ( like CC clean on Windows). And I always do clean Junk file and Boost ram once a day.
Is it good to use this app everyday?
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If it's another generic 'ram booster', it's next to useless, but it won't be dangerous to use unless the app is programmed poorly. As others have pointed out, if there's no problem with the system (e.g. memory leaks), the RAM it allocates is used for caching apps so they may load quicker. Simply put, this behaviour is intended.
Cleaning junk files will probably have next to no effect on perceived performance as well untill you've hoarded enough junk files that your internal memory is almost full. But I see where you're coming from; it's very satisfying to see memory freed.
And while I am at it, I'd like to recommend SD Maid for this purpose. It's one of the few apps that actually do something useful. You can delete orphaned folders by apps that are no longer installed, delete junk and duplicate files, bulk clean app caches as well as optimise internal app databases.

More Free ram on nougat custom roms?

I was on miui8, where i used to get 1.3 to 1.7 Gb of ram free on my redmi note 4 mido 3gb ram phone. But on every los14 based rom i get only 700 to 900 mb ram free. Does anyone knoe how can i get more free ram on custom roms?? Is there any app or tweak which can free ram, please tell.
ayush.gl said:
I was on miui8, where i used to get 1.3 to 1.7 Gb of ram free on my redmi note 4 mido 3gb ram phone. But on every los14 based rom i get only 700 to 900 mb ram free. Does anyone knoe how can i get more free ram on custom roms?? Is there any app or tweak which can free ram, please tell.
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Why do you think more free RAM improves anything?
Free ram = wasted ram.
cy_coe said:
Why do you think more free RAM improves anything?
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Exactly the same question I was going to ask. Forget free RAM. Forget RAM management apps. Forget closing apps to free up more RAM. Linux memory management is already quite efficient. Your utilities are not going to improve it (either at all, or by any significant amount).
That's it. Free RAM is unused RAM. It's useless until it is used... Any device has inbuilt memory management that cares about the memory needs of running processes. If your device shows free RAM of 1GB all the time than your device has 1GB more RAM than it needs.
Why you want more free ram? You bought a phone with 3GBs of ram just to use half of it, why?
They think its windows, when you dont have free ram anymore it will lags or out of memory lol...

Ram usage/total ram/ram managment

Hello there,
I've been using a honor 10 for a long time now (almost since they announced and started selling it) and not once needed to check my ram usage cause it was flawless... But after 9.0 update and more seriously after last security patch my ram usage is going nuts just yesterday my free ram went down to 700mb with only SNAPCHAT running... Decided to download CPU-Z, turns out i actually dont have the said 4 gigs (4096mb) or rather 3686mb in total (note that it says 4gb in app switcher and says that i have more free memore than i really do)... Well any suggestions on how to really drop the usage? Or something else? I can feel the slowdown...
Well i can't actually post the screenshot so im gonna describe it..
CPU-Z says available ram 1317 mb (35%)free out of 3686
And phone itself 1.69gb out of 4gig....
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. The phone will free up some RAM by killing other apps if it detect app that need more RAM.
If the free RAM is low, then its possible the phone load some apps that you usually use to reduce loading speed when opening those apps.
If you feel your phone slows down after upgrading to EMUI 9, you should consider a hard reset, it might help.
For the 3,6GB RAM detection from CPUZ, I dont really care, and I dont consider it a problem.

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