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Hey guys.
I just made this account because I have a major phone crisis. I was thinking of buying a C5 Ultra to replace my broken phone.
But I'm not sure if the 3G and 4G LTE will work with it? I'm not particularly tech saavy. I asked five different representatives from my phone company and they said yes. I've also talked to two Sony reps and they weren't very helpful.
But I'm still unsure. My phone carrier is Claro (Puerto Rico). This is the info they've provided me with:
3G Operable: 850MHZ, 1900MHZ
4G Operable: 850MHZ-1900MHZ, B4 AWS (1700-2100), B17 (700MHZ), B12 (700MHZ)
Which left me still slightly confused. My band knowledge is basically squat. And I've been pulling my hair trying to make heads or tails of the different statements the reps have told me. They all say it'll work and yet I don't want to spend money on the equipment only to find out it doesn't work.
Anyways if anyone could help me out with this I'd be super grateful.
According to this Wikipedia list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks) your operator seems to be using LTE Band 17.
And according to Xperia C5 Ultra specification white paper from Sony website (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/e5553/whitepaper_EN_e5553_e5506_xperia_c5_ultra.pdf) the only model that supports LTE Band 17 is the E5506 (Single SIM, none of the Dual SIM variants support the LTE Band 17).
When I bought mine the model number was printed on a sticker on the bottom of the box.
Also, I would suggest you double check with your operator whether they’re actually using LTE Band 17.
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malih16 said:
According to this Wikipedia...
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They use Band 4, 12 and 17. I've actually asked them extensively about it. My only option would be the E5506, but I've no idea where to buy that -specific- model. I've been searching for almost a month. Sending e-mails and posting on forums, ect. No dice.
Looking at the Wikipedia list it seems that Band 4, 12, and 17 are mostly used in the countries around Northern America.
Based on past releases, Sony has always prioritize the Asian and Europe market first. Northern America model is almost always released last. I guess you'll have to wait.
Of course this is just a guess, I could be wrong.
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Just wanted to update this thread with new info. I'm now in possession of a C5 ultra E5506. I saw it come up on B&H photo and video and immediately bought it. It seems to work with 4G and 3G just fine.
So yes, its out there now. It just took a while.
I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
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Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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Is there any available information on the US carriers that use this phone? I am unfortunately on sprint so I know that the chances are non-existent but I'm still curious on who will get this. In my short google searches, I see Verizon pop up quite a bit.
Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
ZerosMadness said:
Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
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The ASUS ROG is now live on the US site,the specs,including 2G/3G/4G/LTE/CDMA is also posted (pricing & availability are still MIA, release is stated for Q3 2018):
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/Tech-Specs/
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
I would gladly give you a kidney tomorrow for an Asus ROG Phone today.
Any further info heard on a North American release? Been all silent from what I can tell.
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
Jared Foster said:
What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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They are referring to Band 66 and Band 71. Band 66 is a combined band of two of TMobile's bands. I think 2 and 4, to increase throughput. Band 71 is the new 600Mhz band that is being rolled out. This low frequency band will greatly increase building penetration and cover greater distances. Band 71 roll out is scheduled to be mostly completed within the next 2 years. So for those who keep their phones for more than one year, or who live in an area where it has already been rolled out, they will see no benefit from the expanded coverage. The phone does support 2, 4 and 12 which are the minimums for a TMobile customer.
Edit: I was wrong on band 66. It's an extension of band 4 used to increase download speeds only. You can see more about it here https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570
Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
SgtGoldy said:
Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
Taiwan version works on AT&T network.
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
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As long as you already have an active Verizon sim you should just pop it in and it will work. I have done this with non Verizon unlocked phones while having phones repaired.
You may have issues if were to go into store and try and set up a new account using it. This may depend on your store you go into as well. I have heard of some stores doing it with no problem, while others wont do it or have issues.
So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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This could be caused by multiple different things.
1. It could be caused by an app that supports calling (ex. skype, tango or similar) being set as the default calling program.
2. Needing to switch network type in network setting to force it to acquire the needed network info.
3.The phones APN might need changed.
4. If the phone is dual sim try the other slot.
@Mdaly001 Which model do you have? Which region did it come from?
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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From Tech spec page on Asus website, the phone has 2 versions (A and B). Only version B has CDMA (Band BC0). Asus US store listing doesn't spell out which version is sold in US. But it listed CDMA 2000 (only exists in version B). However, it also states "This device is not compatible with CDMA Networks such as: Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular." So I still don't know if the US version will "work" on Verizon. It's certainly not certified for Verizon.
For Taiwan version of the phone, can you enable VoLTE on your Verizon account and phone?
Mdaly001 said:
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
spoonerweb_com said:
If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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Is there a chance the US will work with Verizon?
Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
saroeum said:
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.
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The rollout is well underway. Could one of you gents within range of one of the towers please force band 71 on, and see if you get any signal?
No.
-- Brian
Well, that's unfortunate.
It's an H932 on the shopping list after all, then.
We don't need band 71 though to operate on T-Mobile right? I mean I have a V20 and V10 and they don't get band71. It s just newer phone correct?
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We don't need band 71 though to operate on T-Mobile right?
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Strictly speaking, no. It's not a CDMA sort of situation, lack of band 71 isn't going to make any phones outright obsolete.
T-Mobile is rolling it out hard to improve their coverage, particularly in places that don't have a signal now: rural areas for instance, the sort of places where Verizon has reigned supreme for entirely too long. I would say that band 71 is TMO's Verizon-killer, but I know better...it's going to take more than stiff competition to rid the world of Verizon, unfortunately.
It's not completely rolled out yet, but I figure if I'm going to get a "new" phone and switch to T-Mobile, I might as well future-proof a bit and be able to use their full network once it gets there.
This is a little OT...I remember reading that apple wasn't going to have any phones on tmobile that supported the new band. But it seems that is untrue with the latest release of iphones.
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This is a little OT...I remember reading that apple wasn't going to have any phones on tmobile that supported the new band. But it seems that is untrue with the latest release of iphones.
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Yea, that was the case with the 8 and 10. If I recall right, they were using the Intel radio prior to the one that supports band 71.
There was apparently quite the push to get the H932 out as the band 71 flagship, with the probable intention to boost contract sales for more money to do the rollout with. Poor ol' T-Mobile didn't realize (until it was way too late) just how bad LG's marketing and PR departments are, I guess. What a mess.
Seems the later-2018 iPhones do include support due to a newer radio, though, along with a bunch of other 2018 phones.