Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
mwatson said:
Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
Goronok said:
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
arghness said:
Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
misiokicio said:
Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
Phil750123 said:
yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
xtrocata said:
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
venugopalu007 said:
My relative got this, loved it.
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Good news
really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
:good:
shashank1320 said:
Happy users
:good:
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).
Hi d00ds,
I'm thinking of exchanging my pixel 2 for the mate 10 pro. What do you guys think?
I don't care for the camera as I barely use it on my pixel. Main things are software experience and battery life
Thanks!
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Hi!
The camera is the biggest drawback on this phone, but if you dont care about that the phone in general is great. Battery life is insane! 6 hours SOT without powersave. Lasts days if you turn down resolution and turn on powersave. There are useful functions in the Emui that I enjoy as well.
Get the regular Mate...best phone ever...put Nova on it. Camera is great.
Dont
Just DONT
Huawei P20 pro will be out end of this month.
Depends on the price.
If you love stock android, just wait for the whole treble thing to mature.
I came from years of Nexus / OnePlus devices. I simply HATE EMUI, even with Nova and everything changed to the max to fit what I would call a decent OS, EMUI makes it look like a hackjob...
But for me the Camera is great (coming from a OP5T) the stereo speakers are not the best thing ever (still sure the Nexus 6P had the best speakers... Sad Huawei didn't continue in that direction)
It of course also depends on what you want from a screensize point of view... (PS : The Screen is awesome)
Love it great camera not sure why people are slating it reviews are very positive too, battery best I've had easily a day and half with moderate usage. But my favourite feature is Emui projection perfect work tool for me using a hp lapdock
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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blackrome0 said:
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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If a dedicated Dev is ready to work on the little tidbits, we could quite quickly have a good working AOSP base for our phones as I don't see many things missing (will maybe try to do a recap of I have time)
As no phone on the market suits me right now and I want to wait for the whole "1000+dollar phone with ugly notches" thing to calm down this phone is a great compromise and quite cheap to find sometimes.
Dude if u insist I am willing to trade u with a mate 10 regular not pro
It has a headphone jack. 2k display. Memory card and 16:9 screen.
blackrome0 said:
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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I have the mate 10 pro from Vodafone. It really is a good phone. Battery amazing, camera amazing. Updates are fast ish. I've not had a fault with mine. . I've not even had the need to root it either
blackrome0 said:
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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I would say do it, both phones are very good but as I've used a Huawei in the past I was used to EMUI, even though Nova is my launcher of choice
Only you can then experience first hand it its good enough for you but for the price point is definitely value for money
You can even pick up some bargains online and get it even cheaper if your not bothered
All the best
If the video camera matters to you, I'd say don't do it.
The video recording ability of this phone is the same as the mate 9. Any slight jolt or knock results in some strange wobbling video effect. I've tried with stabilisation and without.
I recorded a takeoff while on my way to the states and I wash shocked at how awful the quality was. My mate has an S8+ and I tried that for landing. The difference was astonishing.
The camera on the Mate 10 Pro is fabulous generally and I've taken to brilliant shots that trump may mates S8+ but I'm so very disappointed by the video recording. The video distortion is just so bad. My old Note 4 takes batter video with no jitter.
For this reason I'm contemplating getting rid of my Mate 10 pro. In so many areas it excels but video recording for me is important. Unless I find a way to reduce the jitter, its probably going.
What OIS system to Huawei use?
Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
At this point I haven't had any negative experience...I'm more frustrated with the decisions that Google made in Android Pie than anything related to the phone itself.
So yeah, I have recommended it to friends.
No. I really don't enjoy using EMUI.
I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
j0ff said:
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I'm wondering if memory management is a phone issue or an android pie issue. I have seen others complaining about this with other phone brands.
mwatson said:
Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
i love my mate 20 pro it is a great phone. there seems to be a whole lot of negativity about it on here but i have had no problems even with the dreaded lg screen lol. yes i would buy it again.
djBarren said:
I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
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why not give it another try? my concern is how long huawei will support the device for. They have no official time frame for firmware and security updates. At least you have 3 years with a pixel.
Yeah looking forward on mate 30. Like the others that never had any single issue.. This phone is great in any aspect of everyday usage. Might buy another mate but let see how huawei would stand after the nonsense banning of their other services
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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I bought mine off eBay. If I had to do it again I'd use wonda mobile. They'll actually check if it's a boe panel for you before they ship and they handle warranty. You'd have to ship to China but that's better than ZERO support from even the best eBay sellers. Huawei doesn't do international service so your sol here in the US.
Amazing phone.
I have had great experience! Nice battery life is the best perk no use in having the hardware to do things if the battery won't last! Also have a second one I bought for the wife and she's an iPhone user and didn't like it. If anyone is interested send me a personal message
I know for sure, I would buy it again, it has given me a great service
My only nitpick with this device is the gesture control, so I'm back to 3 button mode. The native Pie gestures work brilliantly, I don't get why Huawei broke it. That's not a deal breaker for me. It's the best phone I've ever used, better than the pixel or note. I'm unashamedly a huge fan of pure Google Android/ asop and use Nokia 7 plus as my second phone, but nothing comes close to my experience with the Mate 20 pro.
j0ff said:
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
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why would you not buy Huawei again?
No.
Because of green tint, emui, how notifications are handled, and lack of customization options.
I've been on Samsungs since the S2, so this was quite a change for me, so at first I didn't like the general UI side of things (especially the AOD compared to Samsung's is pretty basic), but I have to say its grown on me.
Speed/fluidity etc on the hardware wide of things are excellent
Fingerprint detection can be random at best, but I'm amazed at the speed and reliability of the face recognition, especially when its dark
Also amazed at the battery life
Shame there's no SD slot. Would be much easier to just take all my music etc from my S7 if it had one. No problem as internal storage isn't an issue, but I'd have preferred an SD slot all the same.
Biggest gripe for me is the notch, or should I say the lack of statusbar icon space.... If you set to "hide" the notch, I would rather there be an option to drop the icons down a line so that a full row of statusbar icons can be seen (I'd rather lose 4-5mm of the screen and gain a full statusbar)
Notch aside, yes, I would definitely recommend, but now I've finally made the plunge and broken away from Samsung after all these years, I think I'd probably go for whatever the current OnePlus offering is in 2 years time to see what thats like!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I've already changed those settings and they've made little difference. Perhaps I need to wipe it and start again (but to be fair, all I've really done is install nova and some Google apps).
I've been pretty happy with my Mate 10 but feel it's time for a change. Almost got the Mi 9T Pro but then specs for the Oneplus 7T emerged and that is now the favourite. Tried the Oneplus 7 Pro earlier but hated the curved screen. Mate 30 probably out due to the google apps nonsense.
Just wondered what fellow Mate 10 users have moved to and how it worked out. Or which device(s) you have your eye on?
Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
My mate 10 pro will have an afterlife in the hands of my wife. :fingers-crossed:
But it won't be a Huawei anymore. Just because there is no development around these brand and that sucks.
For now I would prefer Oneplus devices. Also Xioami isn't too bad either.
Will see what the market has to offer next year.
I am fascinated by all the new devices that come out. But also I always come to the conclusion. that the Mate 10 (Pro) is still a very good smartphone that is very capable of keeping up with the new ones. Sure the wide angle and zoom lenses are great and also the SoC are better in Benchmarks, but at the end of the day my Mate 10 Pro can do all I need.
One reason why I decided to buy a flagship smartphone in 2017 was "I want a phone that can keep up for a while". I knew I didnt need the flagship SoC performance but I bought it so it would still be fast 2 years later. Now the time begins where I think I profit of paying extra in 2017. Thatswhy I'll keep it till it breaks, hopefully many years from now. I will soon order a new battery and replace it myself (while also changing my shattered back panel). Very happy with the device and Huaweis promise "wont slow down within at least 2 years" proved to be right.
I change device because i would reduce form factor, but with best camera
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Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
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Personally, I love mine and I have no reason to upgrade. If I could pick any, I would still be pretty open minded as I don't do roms so bootloader locked isn't an issue for me. As long as it is pretty equal in features to price ratio and it has all the ones I need, gladly it can be my next.
It's amazing I've had my M10P for almost two years cos it's as new and fast as the day I bought it!
I gave my Mate9 to my wife then and she stopped using her Sammy for the M9. I wanted to get her a Y9prime but she wants the M10P so I guess it's the M30P for me.
I used to have LGs (G2, G3, V10 & G5) - the last two got affected by bootloop and being out of US, I wasn't entitled to a replacement. Those days, I flashed custom ROMs bi-weekly my favourite was Cloudy.
I didn't think I could survive with a locked bootloader but here I am 3 & 1/2 years after switching to Mate 9.
I will still stick to Mate series but I wish Huawei will create their own OS probably off Sailfish which means we can still install Google services.
If Huawei want to retain market share, they should unlock bootloader in devices as it'll not only keep us but also entice new users of their devices.
Talking about changing devices, I may go for the new P30 Pro.
But if I had to move away from Huawei all together, I'll consider the K20 Pro as an alternative - for me, it's better than OP7 Pro
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I think I may go for Asus ROG phone II or Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Pro
I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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OnePlus 7 seems like a good bargain nowadays.
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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I haven't been getting updates but I have 2 possible reasons,
A- not in the region I bought my phone.
B- been in repair for the past month.
Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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I'd buy the M30P. If you were happy with Huawei than it's the best choice imo. I'd just wait for some real reviews to see if you really can get all Google services to work properly.
I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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Why do U need a 7 inch screen?
If I was upgrading and sticking to huawei I'd rather get the Mate 30 (non pro). The only things I don't like are that it doesn't have QHD display and no support for standard SD card. And also I think it doesn't have dual speakers but I'm not sure. I'm holding off until the Mate 40 unless my Mate 10 become unusable.
The lack of Google apps doesn't bother me at all but for the average consumer it could be an issue.
I like to watch a films at my car during my journeys Larger screens are better for this.
I'm leaning towards the Oneplus 7T. It looks like the uk will only get 128gb but Wonda Mobile think they might have the 256gb version in November.
Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
I've had my P6 for 7 months now and I'm still super disappointed. There are constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint until i restart. It's been by far the worst experience, and I've been on Android exclusively since the G1. To call this a flagship phone is a cruel joke
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constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint
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Jeez!.. I am so sorry to read that
What ever you do.
Stay away from the Pizel 7.
The Pizel 7 sux.
JetVoz said:
Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
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Greetings, i hope you and your family are ok and that nightmare end soon. I have my pixel 6 for about 2 months, and sincerely haven't had the bunch of bugs that people complain, no reboots, no freezes, maybe a couple of times an app has closed, and besides with Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable. The majority of bugs was only on early firmwares l guess. Phone been working great for me, fast, smooth and it's one of the best camera on the (phone) market, so i would say don't worry about bugs and get the phone.
Pixel 5a it's a good phone but with the pixel 6, you get 90hz screen, better camera, future proof (in theory +1 android version support) more ram.
So all it's up to you and your budget, forget about Pixel 6 being buggy as a factor in your decision.
I have the Pixel 6 now since 6 months. Except the fingerprint problem, which was fixed in the June update, I had no issues with the mobile. One time some software problems, but these I fixed by deleting the data from Google Play Services.
Overall, a very good experience for me.
Cheers
Tom
vandyman said:
Pizel 7
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I thought it is not on sale yet
snake218 said:
ith Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable
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Is Android 13 already available for Pixel 6 uses? Or are you talking about beta?
Android 13 is in its last beta phase, rollout will begin in about a month.
Got mine since 2 months, absolutely 0 issues at all, whether on 12 or 13 beta. Great battery life, amazing software experience.
Only complaint goes to the fingerprint scanner being a bit slow.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/is-the-pixel-6-reliable-now.4473305/
Overall I'm very happy with my Pixel 6. I have not had the bug problems other people have commented on, it's been very reliable for me.
The *only* warning I would give you about this phone, and it's a big one, is the fingerprint sensor. It absolutely sucks for me, always has. It's bad enough for me to consider trading it in for a Pixel 7 in October. Never had a problem with the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone, but this under the screen thing is crap. At least on Pixel 6 (and, I suspect, Pro).
Honestly, if it were me.....I'd wait on the Pixel 7 unless you like unlocking your phone with your PIN most of the time. You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month. I'd wait 2 more months and get the 7 along with whatever free goodie they give for early orders (and it better not be another Buds A!).
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You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month.
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man... the battery life on my P4A was so horrible that I switched to Realme.
However, last weekend, I enrolled my P4A in a beta program, maybe the Android 13 will improve the battery life.
Guys in the 4A thread also advise me to try some Magisk+LSposed(Zyrgist) stuff. I haven't investigated this yet, would you say it's worth trying?
Android 13 has improved most things. The fingerprint reader now works 70% of the time for me. But it has not fixed the awful modem. I still get significantly lower signal than I did with my Pixel 3 in the same areas. When I work from home (and am thus on wifi) i really like the P6. Then I go out into the world and struggle to get data and use apps (streaming music/podcasts, store/restaurant apps, etc.). I will be replacing the P6 with a 7 or S22 in October. One way or another, I only need to keep this phone three more months.
Hope you and your family are safe. I am using Pixel 6 since a month. I have not faced any issues which other people have mentioned. The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection but i never felt it a deal breaker, especially since the last update.
If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it. Pixel 6 camera makes up for any buggy experience (which is not really a lot now).
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If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it.
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My P4A camera is good enough for me. I can't say it is among the most important things for me on a phone. The interface and user experience are.
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The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection
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How do you say it works compared to the one I have on my Realme? Here's a 20-sec video
It seems like they ironed out the bugs since I got it. I had some around the beginning of the year but haven't noticed any for a few months
Just wait for de OnePlus 10T to release