Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
venugopalu007 said:
My relative got this, loved it.
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Good news
really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
:good:
shashank1320 said:
Happy users
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).
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In terms of looks, the 1+2 definitely looks better than its predecessors. Let's face it, it feels like a good phone, not a made in China phone.
For the hardware, I feel like there's everything we need, glad they listened to us about the alert slider and FP sensor. The camera is great, processor doesn't overheat as many other users report.
The ONLY time when I was reconsidering my purchase was when I was on OxygenOS, let me explain why :
The launched they built is complete garbage comparatively to the one plus one, big disappointment. They got rid of a bunch of useful apps we were all using on the one plus one such as the camera app, maxxaudio, the themes customizations were splendid and much more.
I have recently switched over to kingmartians hydrogen os and you know what... All the issues that we have been facing with oxygenos are inexistent in it. Its REALLY smooth, even the FP reader is faster. For all of you that doubt of the oneplus 2 should give it a shot, totally worth it. I finally feel like I'm getting what I paid for.
Feel free to post any comments, I'd love to hear from you guys as well. How do you enjoy your oneplus 2?
I am glad to you like the 1+2
The phone is worth the price.
Think marshmallow will enhance 64 bit performance?
Any updates on 6.0 for OPT? The official version ?
Sorry, but my honest opinion is the following:
there is not one rom for the 1+2 that comes completely without major bugs.
No big developer crew has ever made it to the one plus 2 and all the adoption of the big customs roms are "unoffical".
So, I believe it was a big mistake to break up with Cyanogen.
They completed the "package" around the oneplus 1 and made it perfect. It was a phone that people were drawn to.
Now for the 1+2 you see the company already heavily investing in advertising to "push" the people towards buying the device.
Another sign for the medium success of it...
It have it laying in my drawer, but since there is no respectable rom I could go with, it will probably stay there until it's sold
Just my pow...
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In light of OnePlus 3's release coupled with some less than desirable things about our phone, I want to know what you guys think about it. When I say less desirable I mean the build quality, poor developer support due to kernel source being held back by Xiaomi, smaller screen.
I have the 64GB Black version.
I'm doing exactly this. I purchased a OP3 straight away and I am so much happier with it than the Mi5.
It feels much more premium in the hand! The screen looks great compared to the Mi5. I don't like the haptic feedback on the Mi5 either, it's like getting a small electric shock, the OP3 is really soft.
I found MIUI quite irritating and wound up going with unofficial CM on the Mi5. Security features in MIUI annoyed the hell out of me and as for unlocking the bootloader, well. On the OP3, instant. Mi5, requests and waiting.
Oxygen OS is near stock with a few nice enhancements. Android Pay works out the box. I don't even feel the need to root this device, but lets just say I did - developer support is already excellent. Before the devices even hit, CM and TWRP were available for it. Oneplus encourage you to develop and test new ROMS. Doesn't void the warranty.
In essence, yes, selling on my Mi5. Feel much happier with the OP3. (despite the apparent memory issues, but it works well for me).
i would stay with my mi5, even though its underclocked 820, i expect kernel sources to be released soon and we can then over clock it a little bit also battery life is great and i love the light weight and smaller screen because i have used rn3 before and 5.5" screeb us too big for my taste.
well i keep mi 5.nothing much to upgrade to OP3.specially battery life that is more important to me.and i cant handle 5.5" screen.
It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
Both are budget phones the Mi5 is a bit more budget then the OP3 but that's it.
If I sell the Mi5 it's for a true-premium phone and not another budget SD 820 device.
Both phones have pros and cons.
It's very subjective to give the right (but still subjective) weight to them.
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- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
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Mi 5 ain't IP67. No dust/water resistance for Mi 5.
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
Steps Parku said:
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
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You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
Steps Parku said:
6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
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6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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I have an mi5 pro and an OP3 so i know what i talking about. op3 screens sucks, pentile low res shows text poorly, low brightness and strange colours.
Here for you to read:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/7
"Unfortunately, the display really kills the phone for me. Based on every other aspect I think it would be a no-brainer to replace the Nexus 5X with the OnePlus 3 as my daily driver, even if it is bigger than I'd like. I simply can't though, because I just feel unpleasant whenever I look at the OnePlus 3's display. I don't think it's a stretch to say it's the worst display I've examined during my time at AnandTech, as despite the Nexus 6's faults it didn't have the ghastly blue appearance of the OnePlus 3."
Steps Parku said:
6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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Proof your point and have the phone for six years.
The claim that a phone needs 6GB Ram to be future proof is just retarted.
The huge majority of OP3 customers will update the device long long before the 6GB RAM are required.
Future proofing on a PC is retarted but it's even more stupid on a Phone. Yet please proof me wrong and get an OP3 as main driver for the coming six years.
Challenge accepted.
Edit found this nice read on xda: The RAM Conundrum: How Much RAM Do We Really Need?
It's a good read for all who are able to read and think.
6GB of RAM feels as necessary as, say... 16-32GB on a computer. Sure, you're "future-proofing" your device for the few uses that may pop up occasionally in the future, but for most usage scenarios, it'll be unnecessary.
The real decision-makers are probably the (screen) size, price difference and software.
Some prefer a 129g 5.1-inch phone, while others a 158g, 5.5-inch phone. Colour accuracy is definitely an issue on the OP3 at the moment, but it seems like a fix is incoming to reverse OnePlus' "Optic AMOLED" tweaks. Not to mention the LCD/AMOLED differences, which further splits the fields between preferences. Additionally, the $50 difference at the 64GB models (Mi5 2299RMB (~346USD) to OP3 400USD) may also be a deal breaker. And yes, some prefer a more stock Android experience.
But in the end, it's all about personal preference. Make your own decisions based on your own judgement, but you shouldn't force that decision upon others. Even if 6GB of RAM on a phone right now really is slightly silly.
...But to address the OP: I'm sticking with what I've got, and I'm content with my Mi 5 Pro. If you like it, keep it. If you don't, go ahead and test new waters.
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It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
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MI5 doesent have water resistance !!!
http://en.miui.com/thread-231030-1-1.html
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Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
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OnePlus with their software support is crap. I am user of OPO and for me it is very clear - never again! Build quality of OP3? Look at all images done by iFixit and make your judgment. This is not top quality for sure. Screen? Better than MI5? If you think so you are probably color blind, I am sorry for hursh statement but it is true. Want more? Battery life, non-standard quick charge, unimpressive design, average cameras and so on ... and it is more expensive. So go ahead, buy one and in few months I feel very much like me - disappointed at best.
Hi XDA Friends
Below is an eye opener that I think got me convinced not to buy POCO- check out why:
I keep on hearing bad thing in my area about POCO from advanced users who judged the phone only by it's specification.
They told me that indeed the CPU/SoC (Snapdragon 845) is a great stuff but the phone as a whole makes no sense cause:
1. No NFC and no OIS (optical image stabilization)
2. Not so good cameras (Xiaomi used to delived better camers to other devices)
3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
4. They said that it's way better to buy Huawei Mate 10 Lite or Honor 10 cause these phones as a whole are well balanced.
5. NO Amoled display screen, just IPS.
6. Xiaomi lured users to buy a phone with that Snapdragon 845 but as a whole it isnt a photo phone, a storage phone, a gaming phone. It's just and overpriced Redmi Note 4/5.
What do You think dear Friends?
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
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3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
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tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
munchy_cool said:
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
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Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
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Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
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Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
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Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
munchy_cool said:
what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
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I agree about they money but they claim that this phone isnt worth even this $300. Either You buy something cheaper or something much more expensive. This phone is like a planet without a sun. No purpose at all.
This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Dude. Let's not start a fight. It will get us nowhere. If You would like to know I preordered POCO a couple of days ago and I always have the chance of canceling.
Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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And none of your points make any sense about soc and battery are senseless and for NFC personally in my country it's waste and no one gives shi*s it's useless.
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Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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I'm just saying that my these advanced users do make valid points.
Why do You think I ordered this phone in the fist place? Casue of Snapdragon 845 and I am not campaning against POCO. I;m just leaving this message for pleeople that have a big imagination.
Personaly, I'd like to have it but I care about XDA users and I respect others opinion. So chill dude, please.
I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
P650SE said:
I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
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so POCO is geat for You, Im happy to hear that. BTW You're the first person saying that dosnt like amoled
I kind of disagree with the post, several reviewers have rated the phone well on most counts, I am not a tech reviwer but an enthusiast who spends money to experience the new and the nice in tech.
Any phone has shortcomings, and so has this but imagine what you are paying for those, the curved screens on galaxy devices is effectively one of the things what one pays the premium for yet the real world functionality remains arguable. Having said that let me state whats amazing about this phone in my hands on experience so far.
1. Photo quality and Camera speed, the camera launches quick, snaps quick, the ai detection is fast and accurate and pictures are good with or without ai and hdr
2. Phone handling, single handed use, comfort, the phone gets this right. Face unlock, finger prints unlock are both very fast, the raise to wake feature is super useful. It does not feel a cheap phone by any means.
3. Battery life is too early to judge but my first charge has gone 30 hours with 3 hours screen time in a very bad reception area. (still at 50%)
4. The screen quality, contrast and outdoor usage all are at par with the good screens around. No complaints there yet.
5. The software on board is fast and functional, gestures work well plenty of settings to customize, the stock poco launcher is certainly better than what you see on Redmi phones
The minor annoyances come from the following
1. The curve at the bottom of the bottom could have been smaller, its not stopping anything functionally but just feels a bit more than needed.
2. Notification icons don't show up on the notification bar
3. Icons don't seem to have an option to resize. Nothing that another launcher won't solve.
Some may think its not a gaming phone, or a camera phone, why don't we think its a functional phone which ticks all the boxes without trying to be the master of one, the phone does everything well. If you must compare the phone, do so against the flagships and see how many contests it fights well, don't compare it to the midrange phones because it just bests them in all areas.
In an analogy form this phone is a new heavyweight boxer that can stand its ground well in the ring.
If someone has only 300$ to spend, they must buy this, if one has 250$ to spend, this is worth the 50$ extra if one can manage, if someone has 400$ or more they would not regret spending 300 here, though they are free to spend the extra bit on whatever feature specific phone they would like.
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Man, people say some funny stuffs that we can't know if it's serious or not. NFC isn't a deal breaker for many many people. The camera uses the same sensor as Mi 8, Mi Mix 2S, Vivo NEX S, Asus Zenfone 5z that are so much expensive. The lack of OIS is not the end of the world and if a person want it so just spend more money for that.
A lot of flagships has 3000, 3000, 3400mAh and Pocophone has 4000mAh and it's not good enough.
AMOLED? Really? Even Mi Mix 2S don't have it, LG G7 doesn't have it, Xperia XZ2 don't have it and some others. They are all much more expensive and don't have it. The important thing is that Pocophone has a good quality IPS display.
The phone has good screen, good battery life, good camera, it's well made, stellar UFS storage, stellar memory speed and stellar SoC and people complain. If someone wants stellar everything, so go buy a phone that is double or triple the price. The phone gives us more than we pay for sure. There are a lot of phones in the market that is medium to good in everything and costs around $300.
As person who have poco phone and Note 8 , i have to humbly disagree OP's points
1. NFC is good to have but not a necessity but personally i have far better option (Called note 8) and also we so called advances users would have over specs 1000 times before buying any device be it poco f1
2. It has good camera(s) with 1.9 and 2.0 aperture lenses with sony IMX sensors and for price point they do great in good lighting conditions and OIS is again good option to have but not a must.
3. Not sure how to answer that question as you have done it yourself as XIaomi has put SD 845 SOC in a budget phone
4. DOn't have those phone to comment on them
5. Amoled is awesome as i have one of the best amoled screen on phone but this IPS LCD panel is no slouch adequate brightness and color accuracy
just my .02 cents
NFC - you will not find NFC in any device in the same price range, not even Honor Play and what you will do with NFC? I have had atleast 3 phones with NFC but they were useless because except samsung pay my country has no support for NFC payment.
2. AMOLED? Are you serious?? Does honor 10 has amoled? I have used LCD all my life and had no problem, only viewing angles are bad, why would anyone see their phone from sides btw? I have 2 ways of getting an AMOLED:
i. If I buy a mid range phone that has AMOLED and useless processors like SD450 or SD430 Cost - 300USD-400USD
ii. If I buy a high end phone that has both AMOLED and great processor - Cost - More than 700USD
Xiaomi's LCD screen is on par with even expensive phone's display.
3. Honor and Huawei are worst companies in terms of open source and custom ROM development. I had an honor 8 pro, these idiots said they will support development but after few months they flew away, now there is no method to even root the phone and last I had heard, Huawei/Honor will not allow bootloader unlocking.
4. Everyone knows that the camera is not good, it is called cost cutting, everyone here is buying Poco just for the SoC. I was going to buy Honor Play, but however bad poco's camera is, it is still better than honor play's camera and android Pie is certain but Honor nowadays is not even providing patches on time and with each new update a new bug arises.
5. And you are right, Poco F1 is nothing but Redmi Note 5 with a better SoC. And don't even mention Widevine here, I have Moto Z play, Honor 8 Pro, Mi A1, Samsung J7 Max and none of them support Widevine L1 and most of them cost more than Poco.
Your power users are noobs and not experienced people and you sir, either are a very rich guy, else you are extremely stupid.
your points are all invalid because the phone costs 300 bucks lol
Dude, you high or something? Change the damn title to "is Poco F1 worth the price?". You are not giving some top secret news about POCO. You are just sharing your stupid opinion which anyone can. "Read before you buy?". I have it and it's awesome. You just don't understand tech stuff a lot. 100000 people already has it. 5000 has posted 5* review on flipkart.
Just takes a few minutes to read the customer review before buying anything. Do that.
Is US$300 reasonable to buy a Xiaomi Poco F1????
@everyone
Good Day!
I come across all earlier contributions with good and bad comments on this particular Poco F1 ...... .! Bear in mind from the business point of view ask ourselves why US$300 on a snap dragon 845 ... surely might be wrong on this huh! Well, Xiaomi is adopting very aggressive marketing penetration to wipe all the heavy weights like Apple, Samsung, Huawei and smaller ones as well on this! Poco F1 hits them well just like that.
Everyone is entitled to his/her own experiences based on what one believing in the pros and con ..... bearing in mind how long will this lasts! Is just another phone US $300 justify your meets/want for 1-2 years before the next wave going to hit in the market maybe the Oppo or Vivo phones are getting ready to hit back at Xiaomi with more prudent and well built features in probably less than US $250 for soc 855 or 865! Not forgetting that idiot Huawei good for nothing "No bootloader unlock" phrase and many still reluctant players NOT willing to open up bootloader unlock ..... . will count them out.
Conclusion is based on every individual who thinks value for money, ease of operation, good OS (nothing is perfect at least 90% satisfied), NFC not necessary ... many others can do away with it, and end up simply with a price of US $ 300 is certainly the justification that I want with following rationales:
1. Can you still find another alternative or replacement unit with US $300 for a soc 845 ;
2. I can still do my bootloader unlocking but with minimum frustration (1440 hours or 61 days to unlock >> latest new!!!) with Xiaomi;
3. I still can have my custom roms later part ([RECOVERY] TWRP-3.2.3-x [beryllium], Tool/Utility for the Xiaomi Poco F1) or maybe OrangeFox .... . more custom roms will be available by then;
4. If I don't like custom rom I still can revert back to stock roms which is another alternative! Bearing in mind Xiaomi is making a great impact now and maybe the next 10-20 years future to stay more competitive; and
5. Target on this model may last me for a year or 2 ..... by then a much better model with higher specs would surface to take over Poco F1.
Till then Good Luck guys! - -
Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
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I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
misiokicio said:
Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?
i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do
I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives
It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.
i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5