Question Time to stop using Pixel phones? Terrible experience through 1 year of ownership - Google Pixel 6

I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?

i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do

I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives

It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.

i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5

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Your next phone after the 6p?

I've had the 6p for about A year and a half basically since it came out. Think it's about that time to hang up it's cape this screen burn-in is really annoying me and that outdated processor is starting to show it's age. Would love to hear everyone's opinion on their next phone. I was thinking about the Pixel 2 myself if priced fairly ,or maybe the Note 8 , or the upcoming Essential Phone .
the nexus 6p has taught me how greatly important it is for phones to have a removable battery. I not will pay another $550+ for a smartphone, only to barely get 2 hours of SOT after a year of using it. I really hate planned obsolescence. I am trying to find a high end phone with removable battery other than LG ( bootloop ). But I think it's hard to find one in 2017 and later.
The pixel 2 will not be priced fairly. I would go for the note 8 if money is not an issue or the next oneplus
Yea tell me about it ! Battery life is horrible , buddy of mine at work has a S7 edge that gets double the battery life as my phone
I'm not getting rid of my 6p until i have to. Best phone I've ever had. The only reason people have bad battery life is because your battery is getting old, deal with it, replace it and your good to go again. Just like ANY OTHER sealed phone eventually. Anyone who complains about the processor being outdated as well just wants to justify getting a new phone for no reason IMHO. I haven't found anything yet that will tax my processor enough to have to get something new. Even if my 6p gives up the ghost for good, I'll probably buy another used one to replace it rather than spending insane amounts of money on something new and "improved"
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Xavier102296 said:
Yea tell me about it ! Battery life is horrible , buddy of mine at work has a S7 edge that gets double the battery life as my phone
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Give it time, his battery will give out one day to. EVERYTHING has a life span.
I just got an RMA so I'll likely keep it awhile. Depends on my luck of the draw with the replacement. If it sucks I'll grab the Oneplus 5 or note.
I doubt we see removable batteries in any higher end device again. Companies claim design but reality is most of these phones aren't water proof and planned obsolesce especially now that device upgrades really aren't necessary every year is a powerful motivator. Unless of course you got a lemon that shuts off at 30% or gets 2 hours SOT or plain doesn't boot after a year or so. I'm hesitant to buy another nexus / pixel after my 6p and 5x.
It's really hard for me not to get an s8 right now.
probably a pixel 2 or 3 by the time they come out and whether my beloved 6p won't decide to die on me.
Pixel 2 or OnePlus 5
Getting the oneplus 5 once it is released.
Pixel 2 for me .
Looks like I'll be keeping my 6p for a while still. The battery life my not be top notch, but I get 4 to 5 hours of screen on time regularly, which is enough for me, especially when I can charge it for 0-100% in like 1.5 hours. My biggest hold up on an upgrade is I demand stereo front facing speakers, a good camera (which the 6p has when using the modded camera nx app), and a no bull**** as close to stock os as possible. The Pixel ticked all those boxes expect stereo front facing speakers so I passed on it, and it doesn't look like the Pixel 2 will be any different.
Honestly the design, speakers and the price of the pixel killed it for me , that phone looks horrible honestly there's nothing on the market right now that i would wanna pick up except the s8+ and that's pushing it because I only love using stock Android. Boy oh boy if they had an s8+ with stock Android with regular timely updates .... lol in a perfect world.
OnePlus 5 or perhaps Pixel 2. Still happy with my 6P though!
Keeping my fingers crossed on the Pixel 2. I would gladly get a S8 if I could run completely stock Android without root (and with monthly updates). Security is super critical for me for numerous reasons, unrooted for the first time a few months ago, haven't missed it.
That having been said, this week I purchased a $299 Moto G5 Plus (64GB/4GB) for someone, and I'm super impressed with quality and speed. Bluetooth and software is a little wonky, last security update was January, hoping for a ROM update, but since it's Moto G, probably not gonna get many updates. Honestly, if it were a Nexus release, I'd be super happy with it, as the hardware is great.
Pig Vomit said:
Keeping my fingers crossed on the Pixel 2. I would gladly get a S8 if I could run completely stock Android without root (and with monthly updates). Security is super critical for me for numerous reasons, unrooted for the first time a few months ago, haven't missed it.
That having been said, this week I purchased a $299 Moto G5 Plus (64GB/4GB) for someone, and I'm super impressed with quality and speed. Bluetooth and software is a little wonky, last security update was January, hoping for a ROM update, but since it's Moto G, probably not gonna get many updates. Honestly, if it were a Nexus release, I'd be super happy with it, as the hardware is great.
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I picked up a new Moto Z on Verizon for $300 (for my wife).
Great phone if you can tolerate a locked bootloader.
Pixel 2, OnePlus 5 or Essential. Considering all of them
The Essential is out of the question for me. I like to take pictures, and the quality of the pictures I've seen from that phone are not that great of quality.
I'm looking at the OnePlus 5. The samples from them have been a heck of a lot better. I've been checking out the 3T forums to see what kind of roms are offered and its not bad looking at all. I'm going to get the 5 and sell my 6p on Swappa. I just hope it has the horizontal dual camera.
Not the iPlus 5 anymore. The OnePlus 5 with a copycat iPhone 7 style is so sad. And with only a small 3,000mAh battery. Screw that.
I switched to an iPhone 7+ last month and couldn't be more pleased. Tried to hold out until the iPhone 8 came out but the 6P was becoming too awful to be a daily driver for me. Lag lag and more lag whenever it is asked to do anything but the simplest of tasks. Then it heats up and throttles creating even more lag and drains the battery. But the main reason for me abandoning ship was because of my DJI Mavic Pro. Nougat and DJI Go 4 don't mix... I'm still keeping the 6P because it used to be a great phone but somewhere along the line, Google ruined it probably in hopes that we would switch to Pixel. Well I switched alright and probably for good! With iOS, everything just works. Only bad part is there's not a community like XDA Developers. Which is why I'm trolling the forums with my 6P lol.
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
venugopalu007 said:
My relative got this, loved it.
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Good news
really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
:good:
shashank1320 said:
Happy users
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
 Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
 Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
 Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
 Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).

Longevity with Honor phones

Hi
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S5, bought when it came out which makes it around 3 years and 8 months old. As with old devices it has started to frustrate me with lags and such so I am looking for good alternatives which have the same qualities even after 3-4 years with heavy daily usage.
Because I am a student, the new samsungs and even LGs are far too expensive so the Honor 9 is a top contender for me.
The reason I want to hear from you is that you, the users of Honor 7, have used your phones for a time close to mine and so you can probably answer my question in the best way. And i can apply that to the Honor 9 most likely
With it's comparatively cheap price to samsung, LG and Pixel etc it comes with scrutiny regarding this very topic, longevity. I can't switch phones every year so this is a very important to me to know before I buy it.
What kind of people am I looking for to reply with your usage? Users where these conditions apply:
- You bought it within the year of release
- You use it actively to this day
- You have 'more than normal' amount of apps
- Your phones is rooted with Xposed mods running
- You're running a custom ROM with a few tweaks
Please, I also ask you to be objective. I want to hear about the bad and the good things you experience, hopefully the negative doesn't happen daily - if it does, i want to know about it.
SO please, reply with your experiences with your old Honor 7 so I can decide whether to buy the honor 9. You can answer with one sentence if you want as long as it's true
I wouldn't recommend buying a Honor smartphone. I have a Honor 7 bought in November 2015. The update policy of Honor is really bad after 1 year no longer a new Android update. I am still running MM. And the battery is also bad. Today my smartphone was shutting it self off when the battery indicator was still at 30%. So no longer a Huawei or Honor smartphone for me anymore. My next smartphone will be a Motorola.
I've had the Honor 7 for 2+ years now.
I use latest official ROM.
I've always had problems with notifications, sometimes they just don't show.
It is better now on the latest firmware but it is not perfect.
Battery lasts a full day at best, but some days I need to charge it during the day.
I also experience restarts from time to time, maybe once a month or so.
My screen also got defect after a year or so, it has bright yellow spots on the left side.
So all in all not a great experience, but it works.
I think it's pretty much what to expect from such a "cheap" device, nothing more nothing less.
Same problem with my honor 7.
The battery is already finished. The phone now always switches off when it reaches 50% or 30%.
And security is very bad. When we get the Android security patches, it is always min 6 months or a year after Google releases them.
My Honor 7 is ok
I have had my Honor 7 from July 2016. I am happy, it has worked well. Now, one a half years on, the battery lasts a day but I do often have to top it up. My battery will go to 0% before it stops. Mine does not reboot like others have said. I have had issues with notifications but I worked out how to manage them, there are controls in the software. I do feel my Honor 7 is slower than it used to be. It does seem sluggish sometimes. But I still like it, it was good value. Overall I am happy.
2 years and still friends
I bought my Honor7 two years ago and It is still ok : I'am just upgrading to MM. The only problem is the battery, that doest last a entire day if I call, read and send emails (professionnal and personnal, so 40 times a day), and surf the web 2 hours... It stops only at 2% of the battery... But it is still responsive thanks to a good chip and enough memory (ram)... So I'am thinking about giving it a second life (extend the memory, change the battery and install a custom Rom like LineageOS, like I did on my old Galaxy note2 wich is still on duty)..
I hope this will help...
Hi,
Here's my experience :
- Previous phone was a Nexus 4 : Stock ROM, no bloatware, speed, many updates, the perfect phone for me !
- Before that I've got Xiaomi Mi 2 : MIUI is beautiful, fast, with many updates. And now MIUI is still a very good ROM.
- Why I'm presenting my previous phone ? To tell that Honor phones aren't like that... Honor don't update there phones, after 1 year you will not see a major release. And EMIUI is a mess, there is bloatware and system apps everywhere.
- I've got my Honor 7 since January 2016 and the battery is pretty bad now. I'm recharging my phone at the middle of the day to finish the day.
It was my first and last Honor/Huawei phone... I think I will take a Xiaomi next time
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I have had my Honor 7 from July 2016. I am happy, it has worked well. Now, one a half years on, the battery lasts a day but I do often have to top it up. My battery will go to 0% before it stops. Mine does not reboot like others have said. I have had issues with notifications but I worked out how to manage them, there are controls in the software. I do feel my Honor 7 is slower than it used to be. It does seem sluggish sometimes. But I still like it, it was good value. Overall I am happy.
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Exactly my experience too.. got mine June 2016..
What really disappointed me was the software (and the not so many updates) and the display/ general build quality. I had issues with my display and had to send it to honor 3(!) times until they replaced the display. The new one has errors (bright spots/broken pixels) all over it too now, but my warranty ended in November 2017 and its not worth replacing it. The volume buttons were really weird to click and felt unbalanced
The software just isnt good, the issue with notifications was already pointed out. Battery usage management doesnt seem to be great either
Besides that, most things were average or even good for the price, performance was mostly smooth and battery life was ok for me because Im not a heavy user.
I wouldnt recommened honor to anyone, however, I think there are better alternatives, also with better custom rom support to not depend on the publisher for good software and plenty of updates
Pretty pleased with my Honor 7, musst have bought it in 2016, when my Honor 6 quit on me(mic error, and I destroyed the phone trying to change it....my fault).Battery life on 7 has never been as good as on the 6.
I'm on 390, and currentlybattery drops from 99 to 75% after 1-2 hours use, browsing FB, Tapatalk, etc. Really like Themes for EMUI, changing gives the phonenew looks, almost like getting a new phone[emoji4].
Speed has been enough, usually hav 5-10 apps going. Guess the battery is ready to change, but....just ordered a Mi Mix 2 on sale, as I want to try abigger screen instead of dragging both a phone and tablet around when travelling. I recently got short on storage, and have an adapter which let me use both SIMs and and SD card simultaneously.Works, but a it slow, fine for storing media, though.
I have flashed a lot of different firmware during the years on other units, but stuck to official Rom on this. Looking forward to using the Mix 2.My wife has still her Redmi 3 pro running....
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My honor 7 is fine.
I purchased honor 7 in 2015 October. It has been my one and only phone since then. It is working fine. I use it a lot each day. It has to be charged twice a day. I would say that it requires around 1.5 times full charge for whole day. There has not been any problem with the phone since the beginning. I keep 4G turned on for whole day on this phone. The only shortcomings of this phone are that it's rear camera pics are a little grainy. Secondly, it does not have dual SIM for the model that I have. The headphone jack is loud and clear for earphones but is not sufficient for even medium impedance headphones. The build quality is solid though I'm a careful user and have dropped this phone only twice so far. I do not use any cover as the back gets very warm sometimes.

good buy 2020?

Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)
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Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor
Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.

Question Is Pixel 6 (still) buggy? Please help with a buying decision 🙏

Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
I've had my P6 for 7 months now and I'm still super disappointed. There are constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint until i restart. It's been by far the worst experience, and I've been on Android exclusively since the G1. To call this a flagship phone is a cruel joke
mascool said:
constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint
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Jeez!.. I am so sorry to read that
What ever you do.
Stay away from the Pizel 7.
The Pizel 7 sux.
JetVoz said:
Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
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Greetings, i hope you and your family are ok and that nightmare end soon. I have my pixel 6 for about 2 months, and sincerely haven't had the bunch of bugs that people complain, no reboots, no freezes, maybe a couple of times an app has closed, and besides with Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable. The majority of bugs was only on early firmwares l guess. Phone been working great for me, fast, smooth and it's one of the best camera on the (phone) market, so i would say don't worry about bugs and get the phone.
Pixel 5a it's a good phone but with the pixel 6, you get 90hz screen, better camera, future proof (in theory +1 android version support) more ram.
So all it's up to you and your budget, forget about Pixel 6 being buggy as a factor in your decision.
I have the Pixel 6 now since 6 months. Except the fingerprint problem, which was fixed in the June update, I had no issues with the mobile. One time some software problems, but these I fixed by deleting the data from Google Play Services.
Overall, a very good experience for me.
Cheers
Tom
vandyman said:
Pizel 7
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I thought it is not on sale yet
snake218 said:
ith Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable
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Is Android 13 already available for Pixel 6 uses? Or are you talking about beta?
Android 13 is in its last beta phase, rollout will begin in about a month.
Got mine since 2 months, absolutely 0 issues at all, whether on 12 or 13 beta. Great battery life, amazing software experience.
Only complaint goes to the fingerprint scanner being a bit slow.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/is-the-pixel-6-reliable-now.4473305/
Overall I'm very happy with my Pixel 6. I have not had the bug problems other people have commented on, it's been very reliable for me.
The *only* warning I would give you about this phone, and it's a big one, is the fingerprint sensor. It absolutely sucks for me, always has. It's bad enough for me to consider trading it in for a Pixel 7 in October. Never had a problem with the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone, but this under the screen thing is crap. At least on Pixel 6 (and, I suspect, Pro).
Honestly, if it were me.....I'd wait on the Pixel 7 unless you like unlocking your phone with your PIN most of the time. You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month. I'd wait 2 more months and get the 7 along with whatever free goodie they give for early orders (and it better not be another Buds A!).
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You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month.
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man... the battery life on my P4A was so horrible that I switched to Realme.
However, last weekend, I enrolled my P4A in a beta program, maybe the Android 13 will improve the battery life.
Guys in the 4A thread also advise me to try some Magisk+LSposed(Zyrgist) stuff. I haven't investigated this yet, would you say it's worth trying?
Android 13 has improved most things. The fingerprint reader now works 70% of the time for me. But it has not fixed the awful modem. I still get significantly lower signal than I did with my Pixel 3 in the same areas. When I work from home (and am thus on wifi) i really like the P6. Then I go out into the world and struggle to get data and use apps (streaming music/podcasts, store/restaurant apps, etc.). I will be replacing the P6 with a 7 or S22 in October. One way or another, I only need to keep this phone three more months.
Hope you and your family are safe. I am using Pixel 6 since a month. I have not faced any issues which other people have mentioned. The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection but i never felt it a deal breaker, especially since the last update.
If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it. Pixel 6 camera makes up for any buggy experience (which is not really a lot now).
aniztar said:
If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it.
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My P4A camera is good enough for me. I can't say it is among the most important things for me on a phone. The interface and user experience are.
aniztar said:
The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection
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How do you say it works compared to the one I have on my Realme? Here's a 20-sec video
It seems like they ironed out the bugs since I got it. I had some around the beginning of the year but haven't noticed any for a few months
Just wait for de OnePlus 10T to release

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