Any limitations with the international version on TMOUS? Phone specs don't mention bands 66 or 71
Pauls57 said:
Any limitations with the international version on TMOUS? Phone specs don't mention bands 66 or 71
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It does not have band 66 or 71. T-Mobile also hasn't widely rolled out these bands either. In my area I only have access to band 4 and 12. I am waiting to see when I get my phone if it supports wi-fi calling or VoLTE.
LYA-L09: Single Sim UK Variant
4G LTE TDD: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40
4G LTE FDD: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B6 / B7 / B8 / B9 / B12 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B26 / B28 / B32
3G WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B6 (Japan) / B8 / B19 (Japan);
3G TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
2G GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8 (850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz)
WiFi calling is a must have for me. Cell coverage is spotty at work and non existent at home. WiFi calling has solved this for the most part. The mate 20 pro looks so appealing, but I'd hate to find out I couldn't make a phone call.
Pauls57 said:
WiFi calling is a must have for me. Cell coverage is spotty at work and non existent at home. WiFi calling has solved this for the most part. The mate 20 pro looks so appealing, but I'd hate to find out I couldn't make a phone call.
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I will make a thorough review for US compatibility when I receive mine.
Pauls57 said:
WiFi calling is a must have for me. Cell coverage is spotty at work and non existent at home. WiFi calling has solved this for the most part. The mate 20 pro looks so appealing, but I'd hate to find out I couldn't make a phone call.
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I believe the phone has an option to turn it on. But I think TMobile is unique in allowing wifi calling, so not sure if it'll work. I "think" I saw it on an EMUI 9 feature walkthrough.
Nicelysedated said:
I will make a thorough review for US compatibility when I receive mine.
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Please do! And link it here when you get a chance. Thanks!
Huawei Canada is now listing a model LYA-L0C which does have band 66, but not 71. Not sure when they are shipping.
I have the Asian version (sold for Hong Kong, Australia and Philippines) of the Huawei Mate 10. Use it on Tmobile in US. I could never get wifi calling or VOIP to work although Tmobile supports this. Maybe an edit to build.prop could fix this but I decided not to root phone. Interesting to see if same for Mate 20 pro.
https://consumer.huawei.com/ca/phones/mate20-pro/specs/
The Canada Mate 20 pro will have Band 66 in it
( Model LYA-L0C:
FDD LTE: B1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 12 / 17 / 18 / 19 / 20 / 26 / 28 / 66
TDD LTE: B34 / B38 / 39 / 40 / 41
WCDMA: B1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8 / 19
GSM: B2 / 3 / 5 / 8
*In Dual SIM version, either card slot can be set to accommodate the primary or secondary SIM card.
*Functions available on the live network depend on the situations of carrier's network and related services deployment.
Nicelysedated said:
I will make a thorough review for US compatibility when I receive mine.
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Hi Nicely!
I assume by now you've received your Mate 20 Pro for use on T-Mobile's network as it's been 2 1/2 weeks since your last post in here. I too have T-Mobile.
Just got the OnePlus 6T after seeing how great that phone is, though the camera isn't as good as Huawei's, even with the modded GCam options out there.
So I'm DYING to know lol......................were you able to successfully enable or activate VoLTE on T-Mobile's network? I would like to read your thorough review, but right now, I just want to know about the VoLTE thing. Wi-Fi Calling too, but that is NOT a deal breaker like not having VoLTE is. Please just let me know. If you have screenshots of the option in Settings, or even more importantly, of a call where 4G LTE stays in place (and doesn't revert back to 4G or 3G) during the duration of the call, that would be awesome too.
Also, did you get the Single or Dual SIM version??
This is always a pain in the a$$ thing I have to research when recently buying unlocked phones for use on T-Mobile's network. I wish it wasn't like this, but whatever. lol
Thank you!!
RockStar2005 said:
were you able to successfully enable or activate VoLTE on T-Mobile's network?
Also, did you get the Single or Dual SIM version??
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I'm curious to know about the EU/UK and CA versions, too.
Regarding the Chinese variant (mine is LYA-AL00) on TMO US, I haven't been able to see the options for VoLTE or VoWIFI. Somebody on a European network with this version had the option, however. I guess TMO just seems to be special in that regard?
I'm at .137 as of last night.
ONikku said:
I'm curious to know about the EU/UK and CA versions, too.
Regarding the Chinese variant (mine is LYA-AL00) on TMO US, I haven't been able to see the options for VoLTE or VoWIFI. Somebody on a European network with this version had the option, however. I guess TMO just seems to be special in that regard?
I'm at .137 as of last night.
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Ok so you live in the U.S. AND have T-Mobile. Cool!
AL00?? I have only seen the L09 and L29 versions. Which version do YOU have???
.137??
RockStar2005 said:
Ok so you live in the U.S. AND have T-Mobile. Cool!
AL00?? I have only seen the L09 and L29 versions. Which version do YOU have???
.137??
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Firmware update is .137
AL00 is one of the models sold and warranted in China. Mine is dual SIM, 8GB/128GB.
ONikku said:
Firmware update is .137
AL00 is one of the models sold and warranted in China. Mine is dual SIM, 8GB/128GB.
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Oh ok. I checked and that one doesn't have Band 12. Only 2 & 4. In my area (Chicagoland) I need Bands 2, 4, and 12, and 71 is about to get deployed in the next few mos. However, I think I can live without it IF VoLTE is found to work on T-Mo for it like it was for the P20 Pro.
Thanks!!
RockStar2005 said:
I checked and that one doesn't have Band 12. Only 2 & 4.
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It should support band 12? The seller I bought it from, PhoneDB and FrequencyCheck all list band 12.
ONikku said:
It should support band 12? The seller I bought it from, PhoneDB and FrequencyCheck all list band 12.
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Oh, my bad! I didn't scroll down far enough to the LTE section. Yes it does!! :good:
But of course, on T-Mobile, and the reason why it's a big deal to me, is that T-Mobile WON'T let you access its Band 12 radio band UNLESS the phone is certified with T-Mo for VoLTE. But I'm finding more and more exceptions to this. The OnePlus 5 for example that my dad has shows VoLTE as an option, the brand new Sony Xperia XZ3 I just bought (and returned) surprisingly had it, and the P20 Pro has it too. None of them have Band 71 though, which annoys me lol, b/c my area is about to get it soon. But whatever. I'm finding also that having the perfect phone just isn't an option for me. lol
RockStar2005 said:
Hi Nicely!
I assume by now you've received your Mate 20 Pro for use on T-Mobile's network as it's been 2 1/2 weeks since your last post in here. I too have T-Mobile.
Just got the OnePlus 6T after seeing how great that phone is, though the camera isn't as good as Huawei's, even with the modded GCam options out there.
So I'm DYING to know lol......................were you able to successfully enable or activate VoLTE on T-Mobile's network? I would like to read your thorough review, but right now, I just want to know about the VoLTE thing. Wi-Fi Calling too, but that is NOT a deal breaker like not having VoLTE is. Please just let me know. If you have screenshots of the option in Settings, or even more importantly, of a call where 4G LTE stays in place (and doesn't revert back to 4G or 3G) during the duration of the call, that would be awesome too.
Also, did you get the Single or Dual SIM version??
This is always a pain in the a$$ thing I have to research when recently buying unlocked phones for use on T-Mobile's network. I wish it wasn't like this, but whatever. lol
Thank you!!
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VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling are a no-go. I bought a single sim version which does have the slot for the NM card also.
Nicelysedated said:
VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling are a no-go. I bought a single sim version which does have the slot for the NM card also.
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Hey Nicely,
Thanks for responding back so quickly!
Ok. That sux!! lol But ok. I guess I'm keeping my OnePlus 6T then. Awesome phone for sure, but I know the camera on the Mate 20 Pro would outdo it, even with me using the GCam mod from XDA devs on it.
Ok how about anyone who owns the DUAL SIM L29 version?? If you have T-Mobile, does VoLTE work?? Sometimes different models work I think, so hopefully someone reading this has one and can confirm.
If not, I will wait for the P30 Pro and HOPEFULLY that does (and Band 71 wouldn't hurt either Huawei!! lol) too.
Again, thanks so much. At least now I know I'm not missing out since VoLTE is deal breaker for me personally.
RockStar2005 said:
Hey Nicely,
Thanks for responding back so quickly!
Ok. That sux!! lol But ok. I guess I'm keeping my OnePlus 6T then. Awesome phone for sure, but I know the camera on the Mate 20 Pro would outdo it, even with me using the GCam mod from XDA devs on it.
Ok how about anyone who owns the DUAL SIM L29 version?? If you have T-Mobile, does VoLTE work?? Sometimes different models work I think, so hopefully someone reading this has one and can confirm.
If not, I will wait for the P30 Pro and HOPEFULLY that does (and Band 71 wouldn't hurt either Huawei!! lol) too.
Again, thanks so much. At least now I know I'm not missing out since VoLTE is deal breaker for me personally.
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Sorry for my ignorance but can I ask why no VoLTE is a deal breaker?
What network info app tells me.
Nicelysedated said:
What network info app tells me.
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Hmm ok.
To be sure, I'd prob make a call and see if it stayed in 4G LTE or not. That's the BEST way to know for sure really. Up to you. That app could just be wrong too.
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Hi forum. I currently have Verizon service and am considering this phone. I asked a Verizon employee about using it on T-Mobile and she said it wouldn't work. Looking at frequencycheck.com I see the following supported bands:
Band LG V10 - VS990 LG V10 - H901
Band 8 - GSM 850 Yes Yes
Band 10 - E-GSM 900 Yes Yes
Band 13 - DCS 1800 Yes Yes
Band 14 - PCS 1900 Yes Yes
Band 1 - 2100 Yes Yes
Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
LTE Band 3 - 1800 + Yes Yes
LTE Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
LTE Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 7 - 2600 Yes Yes
LTE Band 12 - 700 ac Yes Yes
LTE Band 13 - 700 c Yes
LTE Band 20 - 800 DD Yes
I see that it supports the same bands as T-Mobile version ( model H901 ) and I understand that it is carrier unlocked so why wouldn't it work if I used a T-Mobile SIM ?
slomo
She lied.
It will work fine out of the box since VZW phones come factory unlocked. Just no VoLTE/Wifi calling obviously. Band 2/4/12 is what T-mobile uses for LTE so if you have those then you are set.
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Hi forum. I currently have Verizon service and am considering this phone. I asked a Verizon employee about using it on T-Mobile and she said it wouldn't work. Looking at frequencycheck.com I see the following supported bands:
Band LG V10 - VS990 LG V10 - H901
Band 8 - GSM 850 Yes Yes
Band 10 - E-GSM 900 Yes Yes
Band 13 - DCS 1800 Yes Yes
Band 14 - PCS 1900 Yes Yes
Band 1 - 2100 Yes Yes
Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
LTE Band 3 - 1800 + Yes Yes
LTE Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
LTE Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 7 - 2600 Yes Yes
LTE Band 12 - 700 ac Yes Yes
LTE Band 13 - 700 c Yes
LTE Band 20 - 800 DD Yes
I see that it supports the same bands as T-Mobile version ( model H901 ) and I understand that it is carrier unlocked so why wouldn't it work if I used a T-Mobile SIM ?
slomo
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No offense to them, but I doubt the majority of in-store sales associates have knowledge of frequency bands between carriers. They are likely told to tell customers that the phones won't work if they just intend to take it to another carrier (but there is some truth to that, my old Verizon Galaxy S4 didn't get 4G or MMS on AT&T, but recent phones appear to be more uniform). But anyway, like you said, the frequencycheck list checks out. If it is indeed unlocked as you say, you should be good. Do be careful though. You're missing LTE Band 20, and I don't think it's for anything important (normal LTE operates on 2, 4 and 12), but I can't find any information on this band. And, of course, these lists are not always perfect.
Do you think the info from frequencycheck.com is not correct? Accounting the official specs for V10 from Verizon.com, it is only supports LTE Band 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 which is missing the most important Tmo's Band 12.
Of course Verizon is going to tell you that. It should work.
My verizon note 3 works on Tmobile. The v10 from VZW should work with Tmobile too.
T-Mobile V10 on Verizon?
Would then the T-Mobile V10 work on Verizon?
Pink is the new red.
It works. I am using my tmo sim in my vzw lgv10. It rarely get 4Glte tho. Mostly on H or H+.
Oyeve said:
It works. I am using my tmo sim in my vzw lgv10. It rarely get 4Glte tho. Mostly on H or H+.
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Did you have to get it unlocked or did you just put your sim in?
The vzw v10 works on att and tmo. It does use up slightly more battery than normal, because it will always search for cdma first.
clockcycle said:
The vzw v10 works on att and tmo. It does use up slightly more battery than normal, because it will always search for cdma first.
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Good to know. Got mine and I'm debating on switching carriers and today's announcement pushes me a little more to do so. Just wanted to make sure it was possible before my return period was over. So far I love the phone. Just need to get used to carrying the beast.
papalion said:
Would then the T-Mobile V10 work on Verizon?
Pink is the new red.
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Anyone know?
Yes
It should work. I had a good 1/2 hour conversation with the local sales rep, in Fort Lauderdale. He said all the new Android phones are unlocked. We also discussed rooting. His phones are rooted. He said not to root until the Knox counter is not tripped.
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preludemd said:
Did you have to get it unlocked or did you just put your sim in?
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No unlockingg or rooting required.
rlivin said:
Anyone know?
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Here is my story.
I am using Cricket wireless and bought a Verizon version LG 10 from Best Buy. It's a unlocked phone by default. This phone dose support LTE band 2, 4, 12 (Not sure 17) that compatible with ATT. But there is an issue when you use it in GSM/LTE mobile carrier.
By default the network type is set to "Global". This allows you to talk, text under GSM network (HSPA+, 3G), not in LTE network. If you switch the network type to "LTE/CDMA", you are able to connect to 4G LTE network, but you cannot talk or send text message.
Is there anyone who knows how to have voice, text with LTE network at the same time? Thanks
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Will not get 4g LTE
I purchased an unlocked verizon lg v10 and when i plugged in my sim i realized it will not get 4g lte only HSPA+, LTE will display here and their but will disappear and change over to H. I hope someone can fix this or else i think ill be getting a different device.
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miguel72389 said:
I purchased an unlocked verizon lg v10 and when i plugged in my sim i realized it will not get 4g lte only HSPA+, LTE will display here and their but will disappear and change over to H. I hope someone can fix this or else i think ill be getting a different device.
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I have the same problem and cant seem to resolve it, were you able to get this fixed???
Its because i belive tmo uses a band that verizon doesnt to run its lte service I'm trying to trade. If root comes maybe someone will be able to assit damn verizon
yes it works with t-mobile, i am using verizon v10 on t-mobile right now, i disable most of verizon apps on the phone. also set up the apn for t-mobile in order to get data. the only annoying part left is that the phone tell you the sim is not from verizon everytime you restart, but that can easily swipe away just like any other notification.
Lazybumx said:
yes it works with t-mobile, i am using verizon v10 on t-mobile right now, i disable most of verizon apps on the phone. also set up the apn for t-mobile in order to get data. the only annoying part left is that the phone tell you the sim is not from verizon everytime you restart, but that can easily swipe away just like any other notification.
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You get lte speeds?
Anyone tried this or seen this?
I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
iOR3K said:
I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
car2carl said:
There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
danman0 said:
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
banch said:
I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.
Hi, some of you know the 4G frequencies of Honor 8x (No MAX). Is that there is controversy in some sales pages and in the Chinese official does not clarify.
In some they say that they have the B7 and in others they do not, thank you very much for your help.
it's rolling out now. well see as reports come in. early results this will not work LTE & vokte in USA TMobile or ATT. I am wondering if there will be different versions.
roadrunner4spd said:
it's rolling out now. well see as reports come in. early results this will not work LTE & vokte in USA TMobile or ATT. I am wondering if there will be different versions.
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The phone is releasing in the US, they even held an event in NY recently...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Honor-8X-smartphone-now-official-for-U-S-market.336630.0.html
What's not clear is whether it'll support B46, B66, and B71 for T-Mobile.
band 71 will probably make it break many unlocked phones in the USA. myself I won't buy one unless it has band 71 and preferably band 66 as well. no one works volte with ATT and OnePlus is preparing to sell thru T-Mobile
roadrunner4spd said:
band 71 will probably make it break many unlocked phones in the USA. myself I won't buy one unless it has band 71 and preferably band 66 as well. no one works volte with ATT and OnePlus is preparing to sell thru T-Mobile
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If this representative is right we might not have to wait long for band info. Huawei phones usually launch around Oct - Feb.
The Honor 7x, View 10 and Mate 10 Pro feature 2, 4 and 12. So I'm a little concerned about the company's support for newer bands in the US.
I do not have high expectations for band 66 and 71. i want to be wrong though
Haha. I'm trying to stay optimistic. Very few phones around ~$200 carry a battery this size and certification by Rheinland. If Huawei disappoints there aren't any real alternatives.
Well, no. There's the Moto G7 but that's several months away.
Hello,
I'm trying to acquire a lg v60 but it seems that the european version is impossible to get.
Are the others versions working in Europe ?
Here are the frequencies in France that I need : 800 MHz (B20), 1 800 MHz (B3), 2 100 MHz (B1), 2 600 MHz (B7)
Will a V600TM be fine or not ? I don't mind the 5g, only 4g.
Thanks.
tutov said:
Hello,
I'm trying to acquire a lg v60 but it seems that the european version is impossible to get.
Are the others versions working in Europe ?
Here are the frequencies in France that I need : 800 MHz (B20), 1 800 MHz (B3), 2 100 MHz (B1), 2 600 MHz (B7)
Will a V600TM be fine or not ? I don't mind the 5g, only 4g.
Thanks.
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you can take one TM or ATT, TM is a bit more sensitive to bugs and has the possibility of OTA upgrade, but it won't be for long because the support ends. ATT is somewhat more resistant to bugs, but there is no OTA, but again it does not matter because we have all backups up to the latest version of frrmware.
JigsawMobile said:
you can take one TM or ATT, TM is a bit more sensitive to bugs and has the possibility of OTA upgrade, but it won't be for long because the support ends. ATT is somewhat more resistant to bugs, but there is no OTA, but again it does not matter because we have all backups up to the latest version of frrmware.
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If I buy one, I'll plan to keep it for a long time but I don't know if we the updates are available in Europe.
Frequencies bands are also important, there is no point that I buy the phone if I can't use it with my network operator.
Thanks for the infos, if the frequencies can work, I'll take the TM.
tutov said:
If I buy one, I'll plan to keep it for a long time but I don't know if we the updates are available in Europe.
Frequencies bands are also important, there is no point that I buy the phone if I can't use it with my network operator.
Thanks for the infos, if the frequencies can work, I'll take the TM.
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Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
JigsawMobile said:
Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
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Does it mean that if I crossflash to the ea rom I will be able to use all frequencies (I live in France) ?
As long as I have 4g it's fine.
tutov said:
Does it mean that if I crossflash to the ea rom I will be able to use all frequencies (I live in France) ?
As long as I have 4g it's fine.
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Well yes and no, i did not having experience about it other guys says it can but i think yes with additional customization.
However buy one TM or ATT.
I have att and all works but in my country i do not have 5g so i can not test. Other guy who used my patched modem says they having 5g.
JigsawMobile said:
Well yes and no, i did not having experience about it other guys says it can but i think yes with additional customization.
However buy one TM or ATT.
I have att and all works but in my country i do not have 5g so i can not test. Other guy who used my patched modem says they having 5g.
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Are phones with 5g logo instead of the V60 thinq logo in the back like this one https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmv600vmwavrzcw-verizon-v60-thinq-5g# only verizon version ?
tutov said:
Are phones with 5g logo instead of the V60 thinq logo in the back like this one https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmv600vmwavrzcw-verizon-v60-thinq-5g# only verizon version ?
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If i understand you question,
Yes all phones 5g but i am not sure will all phones 5g logo
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If i understand you question,
Yes all phones 5g but i am not sure will all phones 5g logo
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Phones with the 5g logo in the back (like the one in the link above) are v600vm model only ?
No 5g
tutov said:
Phones with the 5g logo in the back (like the one in the link above) are v600vm model only ?
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No 5g logo its only when booting device. I have att and no 5g logo on the back side
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No 5g
No 5g logo its only when zurning on device6. I jave att and no 5g logo on tje back side
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It seems weird, some sellers are selling lg v60 but the back side of the phone has 5g logo instead of 60thinq logo...
The T-Mobile version will work on all frequencies in Europe. I'm in the UK and all 4g bands work. Except 5G
JigsawMobile said:
Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
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Is it really like that, that TM will work in Europe? I checked the kimovil.com page and according to this website I will not have support for any frequency in Czech Republic (just 2G). They say that B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600) and B20 (800) are not supported. According to the website the ATT version will support all 4 bands of 4G, 3G, but no 2G (I don´t know if I need 2G, do you have any problems?). According to the website the Verizon version will support 3 bands out of 4 of 4G, 3G and 2G, so I guess the Verizon version would be the best.
I am using the Sprint version of LG V50 Thing 5G. It shows I have 5G, but kimovil.com says it does not support. I installed netmonster app to my phone and realized that the phone shows 5G but it does not have any 5G, just 4G. That is a funny thing too.
gothaj said:
Is it really like that, that TM will work in Europe? I checked the kimovil.com page and according to this website I will not have support for any frequency in Czech Republic (just 2G). They say that B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600) and B20 (800) are not supported. According to the website the ATT version will support all 4 bands of 4G, 3G, but no 2G (I don´t know if I need 2G, do you have any problems?). According to the website the Verizon version will support 3 bands out of 4 of 4G, 3G and 2G, so I guess the Verizon version would be the best.
I am using the Sprint version of LG V50 Thing 5G. It shows I have 5G, but kimovil.com says it does not support. I installed netmonster app to my phone and realized that the phone shows 5G but it does not have any 5G, just 4G. That is a funny thing too.
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No problem it support 2G in all countries.
I think only 5g wont work without modifications different.
Kimovil.co. is not right site to see bands, in most of sites shown bands without roaming. Eg. you can see for att officiall site there are roaming bands but on the site no roaming bands.