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Hello XDA,
I've searched around for this problem a bit, and it seems this issue hasn't been brought up anywhere. If it has, then I apologize.
The S2 has an awesome display with great colors, blacks included, but I noticed this issue one night when I was watching a film on my S2. When the display is showing black/dark images you can clearly see what appears to be glue smudges all over the screen, especially along the rims. It is only noticeable when there's little to no other light in the surrounding environement. Increasing brightness seem to worsen the problem.
It is hard to describe and very difficult to capture on camera but I made an attempt. I can't post links yet it seems but here's an imageshack url:
img842.imageshack.us/img842/5420/blotches.jpg
The image was taken with a Canon 450D with 20 sec exposure (hard to focus when it's that dark I'll tell you). Edited slightly in photoshop to cut down the size.
Here you can see the general color of the screen (gray-ish) and some of the blotches of (what I'm guessing is) glue in the back. If I had to guess I suspect the blotches might come from the capacitive touch layer of the screen. Is this an issue or is it to be expected on phones like these? It's not a major problem but it's actually quite annoying when you're watching a film/youtube clip/playing a generally dark game or whatever. Should I return my device? I've used it for just about a week and a half.
Thanks in advance for any help.
i have this too, its the AMOLED display. you can turn the screen off and on and you'll see it go off n on. not the sgs, but amoleds generally. my omnia HD had this too (1st gen AMOLED)
the blacks are not 100% black i say
Im having this too, nothing to worry about this as it doesnt disturb the beautiful display of this mobile.
Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
willww said:
Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
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that is because you are accustomed to AMOLED, i feel the exact opposite
I actually prefer to view it slightly off centre, images / video look over contrasted to me particularly with the mobile bravia engine enabled.
I find the image also looks more uniform if you view it slightly off centre.
Either there is something wrong with your phone or your another one of these fussy sods.
I can look at my phone from an angle and its fine, but why the hell would you use your phone at an angle anyway!
Seansmit17 said:
Either there is something wrong with your phone or your another one of these fussy sods.
I can look at my phone from an angle and its fine, but why the hell would you use your phone at an angle anyway!
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Call me fussy if you want. It seems you have never been annoyed or frustrated at something you bought in your life. Good job *thumbs up*!
Testing using a image of a gradient as an example. I went on Google and searched for 'blue', a few images down there is a gradient picture (attached). Display it on your phone, and tilt it any angle until the bright middle section completely disappears, for me a left/right tilt is about 20 degrees until it's significantly noticable and at 45 degrees becomes a solid colour and I can't see the middle bit anymore. This isn't apparent with any other phone I've had.
As I said, I like to use my phone in bed and sometimes it's not possible/comfortable to constantly hold the phone at the right angle.
I have to agree. The viewing angles are bad. It has about the same viewing angels as most laptops. I don't know how it is in comparison with other lcd phones since I used an amoled phone before.
And yes I am really fussy about most things. I can find faults with every phone but I can live with it.
But if you done your homework you would know that an LCD screen has poor viewing angles compared to a AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen.
Maybe before owning the phone you should have experimented with just how good/bad the viewing angles were by trying one in a shop before committing.
dibdin said:
But if you done your homework you would know that an LCD screen has poor viewing angles compared to a AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen.
Maybe before owning the phone you should have experimented with just how good/bad the viewing angles were by trying one in a shop before committing.
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I know that LCD is going to have a bad viewing angle compared to an AMOLED, everybody knows this. But I've owned a lot of phones with LCD screens in the past before, but none of them have had such a poor viewing angle as this one.
Try that gradient test with any other LCD screen you have, I'm sure the viewing angle would be better than the one on the Xperia.
In hindsight, testing the phone in a shop would have been best, but when you're that excited to get a new phone, buying online before release is what a lot of people would have done.
I dont see what the issue is. Lcd always has a more limited viewing angle.
My XperiaS is fine for me. My eyes are straight ;-)
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I just love how you had to go hunt down an image to show the problem.
While watching a video or looking about the net or even looking at pictures on your phone there is no issue when looking at the screen from an angle, witch is what I'm doing now. All the colours look fine and I can see what's on the screen fine as well.
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willww said:
Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
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Who cares? I never and don't want to look at the screen from the side
I love it, and i never used a Amoled phone so 4 me it's ok like the way it is
Had them all, iPhone,HTC,SGN,and now my EPS and it's by far the best yet, as for using it at an angle.... why?
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A phone with an angle might be even better,since someone is less likely to be able to read or see what you do if he is not supposed to do so.
I like the screen a lot,it looks great,it performs well in bright light and the angles are fine as well. I used an OG Droid before,the XPS's display is so much better.
If you don't like it,go and exchange the phone.
Tried it in my car to use the sat nav, the screen is wonderful, in sunlight the screen is still as clear as it normally is which is crystal!! Love the screen. Better then other high powered phones out there
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dgattenb said:
Tried it in my car to use the sat nav, the screen is wonderful, in sunlight the screen is still as clear as it normally is which is crystal!! Love the screen. Better then other high powered phones out there
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Agree....
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Why
Why would you want to look at the screen from a angle there is absolutely no reason for it
My thoughts also,I use my phone in bed every night, but hold it straight with on prob what so never!
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I should have pictured that people who obviously own the phone are going to defend it.
From most of the replies, people think I use my phone at an angle. This isn't the case. The problem I have is that the viewing angles are poor, which leads to colours being easily shifted and this can become quite distracting especially on a mobile where it's constantly being moved/tilted. Like a shade of grey will change from dark to light with just a slight movement, if you can't notice this, get your eyes checked, if you don't care, I don't mind.
If it's all good for you that's fine. I was only trying to see who had the same mindset as I do. I can gather that a lot of you haven't seen a quality screen before. Resolution isn't everything.
i come from a galaxy s. Amoled is better in every way more vibrant colours, brighter,better viewing angles, etc. Not mentioning xperia s's resolution, the plus side on the xperia s is having a more natural colour, galaxy s is a little yellow while xperia s shows real colours. For the viewing angles, yeah it is a little bothersome even a 10 degree tilt will make it slightly blurry, if it had a 20 degree tilt viewing angle that would be fine that would be great but all in all i can live with it. At least on the train you will have privacy
I've come from Samsung Galaxy nexus, and I have to say it's better, colours are more natural it just pops, wife has iPhone4 and the screen on that looks pants compared to the experia s.
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Guys I need some help here! Here are the photos my tab's screen, I hardly can get the better ones.
As far as you can see, does it have the bleeding issues or those are only blueish IPS tints there?
Really appreciate any input!
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
Guys I need some help here! Here are the photos my tab's screen, I hardly can get the better ones.
As far as you can see, does it have the bleeding issues or those are only blueish IPS tints there?
Really appreciate any input!
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this is what light bleed looks like:
ure looks fine from what I can see.
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
Guys I need some help here! Here are the photos my tab's screen, I hardly can get the better ones.
As far as you can see, does it have the bleeding issues or those are only blueish IPS tints there?
Really appreciate any input!
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I cannot see due to the reflection. Take a picture in the dark. The blacks aren't black on the nexus 10. And its not a IPS screen it is PLS display.
My advice is to not hunt for defects and just enjoy your device.
Yeah you're right, but I am not in US and have not received it yet to enjoy, unfortunately, and if I will forward this there will be no going back with warranty etc) Also can't get the clearer images, that is why I decided to kindly ask someone who has the device in hand to determine the situation I am in.
If you want to know it has light bleed, ask the person that has it right now to take a picture of it with a black wallpaper in a completely dark room.
download light bleed app from play store, take snap shot of the screen, post here.
I never noticed anything until I actually tried this "light bleed" test, but I noticed there is a YouTube video for testing light bleed and that was much less noticible, if at all, compared to the app on the play store..
Moral of the story is: When actually using the device, light bleed has made ZERO difference for me - Nexus 10 is great so far
EVERY LCD Screen has light-bleeding, but you don't always see it.
If you see it in daily use - you may have a problem.
If you don't see it in daily use - where's the problem?
People crank the backlight all the way up and then take pictures in a pitch dark room...but that doesn't represent the practical use.
When booting the N10, the backlight is set to maximum. Wait till it adjusts itself and then look for light bleeding.
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If you don't see it in daily use - where's the problem?
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This
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I wonder if Samsung /Google fixed the issue? I i saw pics from people who received their n10 on the initial launch week and could easily see light bleed in all the pics posted. i remember comparing them to my own tf700, and wifes ipad3 at the time and saw the n10 bleed pics to all be worse than my tf700 which had a little bleed in 2 of the corners and no bleed on my wifes ipad. i received my n10 this week after having it pre-ordered thru staples and just checked it using one of the bleed checking apps and it looks great at full brightness.. better than my tf700, looks equal to my wife ipad 3, with maybe one tiny spot that was only visible at 100 % brightness.
It's almost impossible to take adequate pictures of backlight bleeding. Just like with clouding or banding on TVs. You just can't take them as a comparison.
Search for iPad backlight bleeding in Google and there you have it...
Hi all, How are you?
I have a Nexus 9 wifi 32GB "volantis" running stock Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C).
Its display shows a white border/blurry around the device edge on black screens ( or when there is a black area close to the device display edges ), Is this behavior normal?
I appreciate any hlp you can give me,
Roger
Welcome.... Just search for light bleed and you got enough to read ?
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Hi mrorange2108,
Thanks a lot for helping.
It looks like that It is indeed backlight bleeding
My screen looks like this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-9-tablet/457830-example-light-bleed-nexus-9-a.html
Please, Is there any work around for this issue?
I have read lots of users reports saying that they had requested for a RMA, and They received another Nexus 9 with the same issue.
So, It looks like that It is useless to request a new one, as It will probably have the same problem.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
RogerSilva said:
Hi mrorange2108,
Thanks a lot for helping.
It looks like that It is indeed backlight bleeding
My screen looks like this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-9-tablet/457830-example-light-bleed-nexus-9-a.html
Please, Is there any work around for this issue?
I have read lots of users reports saying that they had requested for a RMA, and They received another Nexus 9 with the same issue.
So, It looks like that It is useless to request a new one, as It will probably have the same problem.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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It's a flaw in the manufacturing process. Basically a hardware flaw, so you cannot fix it, only HTC can replace the parts or replace the whole device. If it really bothers you I suggest using low brightness, since the bleed will appear worse as you increase it.
Also the problem isn't universal. Mine has little bleed, and others can have even cleaner screens depending on their revision code.
Ace42 said:
It's a flaw in the manufacturing process. Basically a hardware flaw, so you cannot fix it, only HTC can replace the parts or replace the whole device. If it really bothers you I suggest using low brightness, since the bleed will appear worse as you increase it.
Also the problem isn't universal. Mine has little bleed, and others can have even cleaner screens depending on their revision code.
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Ace42, How are you?
thanks for helping.
I have searched about screen bleeding issue, and It looks like that all IPS screen have this problem, is that correct?
If it is something related to IPS screens, thus It does not help to request a RMA, as the new device is going to present the same issue , right ?
It looks like that all Nexus 9 are affected with this problem because It relies on IPS screens, some of them with major degree of screen bleeding, and others less affected - but still with bleeding issue.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
RogerSilva said:
Ace42, How are you?
thanks for helping.
I have searched about screen bleeding issue, and It looks like that all IPS screen have this problem, is that correct?
If it is something related to IPS screens, thus It does not help to request a RMA, as the new device is going to present the same issue , right ?
It looks like that all Nexus 9 are affected with this problem because It relies on IPS screens, some of them with major degree of screen bleeding, and others less affected - but still with bleeding issue.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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You will most likely get another N9 with this issue, but maybe you could get lucky and find one with minimal bleeding if you're okay with RMA. The screen in the N9 might have poor quality control just like some models have bad buttons+pushy rear covers+uneven volume rocker.
And I think it's safe to associate bleeding with IPS & (low quality) TN tech just like OLED tends to show the mura effect.
If you don't want to play the game of getting lucky I suggest waiting for the Galaxy Tab S2, next Nexus, or even getting an iPad if you already use their ecosystem.
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Ace42 said:
You will most likely get another N9 with this issue, but maybe you could get lucky and find one with minimal bleeding if you're okay with RMA. The screen in the N9 might have poor quality control just like some models have bad buttons+pushy rear covers+uneven volume rocker.
And I think it's safe to associate bleeding with IPS & (low quality) TN tech just like OLED tends to show the mura effect.
If you don't want to play the game of getting lucky I suggest waiting for the Galaxy Tab S2, next Nexus, or even getting an iPad if you already use their ecosystem.
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Hi Ace42, thanks for helping again.
I understood that all IPS screens have bleeding screen issue, right?
Does bleeding screen issue indicates some kind of another future screen issue?
For instance, If my device has bleeding screen issue, Its screen is going to fail after 3 moths of use?
or Other problem might rise if my device has bleeding screen issue?
I appreciate any help you can give,
Roger
RogerSilva said:
Hi Ace42, thanks for helping again.
I understood that all IPS screens have bleeding screen issue, right?
Does bleeding screen issue indicates some kind of another future screen issue?
For instance, If my device has bleeding screen issue, Its screen is going to fail after 3 moths of use?
or Other problem might rise if my device has bleeding screen issue?
I appreciate any help you can give,
Roger
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No, it doesn't indicate other issues. Light bleeding has been around forever & even TVs + monitors can still experience it to different degrees. I wouldn't worry too much about it because of its commonness. I'm not saying screens can't randomly fall, but if it develops dead zone, yellowing, etc it will not be due to the light bleed.
HTC just has poor QC, it's the job of their employees to evaluate the performance of parts. Despite being an expensive device the quality isn't equal to Apple's.
RogerSilva said:
Hi all, How are you?
I have a Nexus 9 wifi 32GB "volantis" running stock Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C).
Its display shows a white border/blurry around the device edge on black screens ( or when there is a black area close to the device display edges ), Is this behavior normal?
I appreciate any hlp you can give me,
Roger
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Contrary to all the crap you will read about "light bleed", it is neither a defect, nor a flaw. It is a CHARACTERISTIC of ALL backlit LCD displays. The reason is has recently become a "defect" in some people's minds, is that there are some display technologies now that do not use a backlight at all, such as the common AMOLED... which has its own set of flaws, such as requiring a much greater resolution in order to yield a similar "look" as a backlit LCD (the higher number of pixels means that you need a stronger GPU), and being extremely poor at accurately reproducing colors.... BUT, no backlight = no light AT ALL from areas that aren't displaying pixels.
Hi all,
thanks a lot for helping.
I understood that black light bleed is a issue in all IPS screens, so if I request a new nexus 9 with HTC's RMA, thus it is going to have the same issue.
Lesion learned: I am going to avoid IPS screens for my next devices.
Thanks a lot,
Roger
RogerSilva said:
Hi all,
thanks a lot for helping.
I understood that black light bleed is a issue in all IPS screens, so if I request a new nexus 9 with HTC's RMA, thus it is going to have the same issue.
Lesion learned: I am going to avoid IPS screens for my next devices.
Thanks a lot,
Roger
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IPS still a good technology, that's why LG banks on it unlike Sammy. The bleeding can be unnoticeable or severe. That's why quality control is so important.
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So, I have been seeing many reviewers commenting potential display quality issues, mainly screen bleeding all the way around the screen and punch hole.
I know it can be considered as normal for IPS LCD screens, but many say it's really noticeable and can be annoying. Also, pretty low brightness is reported as under-average.
It seems, according to what I have seen and read, that display is downgrade from Redmi Note 8 Pro, which has pretty good display, no screen bleeding and decent brightness.
So, those who have Note 9 Pro (9S), have you experienced this issues, is it a general thing, or maybe it's just some batch in question.
I really would like to buy a phone, but I wont take a bellow average display as compromise.
kirin432 said:
So, I have been seeing many reviewers commenting potential display quality issues, mainly screen bleeding all the way around the screen and punch hole.
I know it can be considered as normal for IPS LCD screens, but many say it's really noticeable and can be annoying. Also, pretty low brightness is reported as under-average.
It seems, according to what I have seen and read, that display is downgrade from Redmi Note 8 Pro, which has pretty good display, no screen bleeding and decent brightness.
So, those who have Note 9 Pro (9S), have you experienced this issues, is it a general thing, or maybe it's just some batch in question.
I really would like to buy a phone, but I wont take a bellow average display as compromise.
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Not confirmed from my side,no visible bleed around the camera hole. I was asking myself about this reported claim.
Display is good for me and can easily compete with my old MI9T.
I don't regret buying this phone.
I was hoping to hear that, because I've also saw people commenting that their units are free of any kind of screen issues.
But it seems some batch of phones is impacted by this issue.
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I was hoping to hear that, because I've also saw people commenting that their units are free of any kind of screen issues.
But it seems some batch of phones is impacted by this issue.
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Mine is perfect. Don't listen to Frankie from Frankie Tech on YouTube. He's full of $hit.
Mine is fine. Nothing noticeable. ??
Mine is two weeks old and absolutely fine. I have yet to notice light bleed (should I have, or would I need to look for it?) and there's no display retention issues.
I notice the faded color around the screen, im thinking on a return. But dont know if its normal, cause cant notice on some apps even at max brightness. Just got the phone on Sunday