task switching nightmare - Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers

dont know if this is just me, but if the task/app switch menu is moving and you try to select a task/app, it takes you to homescreen for no reason

oh yes, i know what you mean. Its very tricky, you must switch the task that you want to the middle and than tap on it. very bad user experiance.. :x

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Starting phone from standy in landscape mode

So I have a habit of sliding the phone open and then pressing the hardware messaging key, and no matter what, it never seems to work. I press the button, and Ill see the today screen, but no messaging window. I have to slide it back closed and open again and everything sorts itself out.
I've tried looking, but haven't seen anyone complain about this particular problem. Anyone else fret about this? any solutions?
no one has this problem?
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I find my X01HT in landscape mode when i wake him um with the "on" button, and have to wait for it to "think" a litle bit to obey me, while that, if I try to push any command he will go crazy and the image will stay locked in the last scene and will not get actualized... Kind of annoying thing, using black Satin... But i'll try schaps now to see if that goes away...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1504436&posted=1#post1504436
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Im on WM5.
Vijay, I don't want to disable orientation permanently. Just sometimes, I want to start messaging, so in stanby mode itself, ill open and start it up. thats what confuses the 8525, thats all. I have to close the phone, and then slide it open again for it to regain consciousness!
Its no biggie, but i was just wondering if any1 else had a similar issue.
FINALLY... WHAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
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shlomki said:
I've come to notice that no one REALLY knew how to fully disable screen rotation on WM devices.
Some offered 3rd party apps to get the job done, some only knew how to disable automatic rotation, but when the device went into standby and woke up again - the screen rotated back. So that didnt really work.
So if you're as desperate as i was about screen rotation,
this is what you need to do:
1. Get dotfred's free taskmanager HERE, and run it.
2. Go to "Devices" tab, and look for "MIS1:" device (oem_misc.dll)
3. Long-Tap on it, and tap on "Stop"
4. Long-Tap on it again, and now choose "Set Manual"
5. Go to "Notifications" tab, and look for "Notifications\NamedEvents\VCPowerWakeupEvent"
6. Tap on it to make it selected
7. Disable it
(In dotfred's taskmanager, there should be a button for disabling it, but for some reason some devices couldn't see the button icons, although the buttons are still clickable. Under the notifications list there is an empty light-blue line - the buttons are there, eventough you can't see them.
The disable buttons is somewhere i the middle of that light-blue line, just tap the center until a message box popps up and asks if you'd like to disable this notification - Tap on yes.)​All those steps are a one time deal - they stick even after an SR.
This has been tested on htc universal and works great.
The screen will keep its orientation even if you flip your screen, take out your built in keyboard, or turn the device off and back on.
The only time your screen will revert back to the original orientation is when you soft reset your device.
Hope this helps
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hero with out the sens

hi-will the hero work without the sens ? i mean will it work with the regular android gui.
like with the tf3d on wm .
thx
Yes it does. Somehow when i press my home button i get the option of either touchflo or home. Not sure how i got it to do this though!
The home one is just the plain android screen..
I got that too, happens if you press and hold home to view running applications. Goes away if you tick the make default action box (until you press and hold home again)
Yeh i noticed that too, also underneath it says something about changing options in settings home etc..
Tis nice to have the option to do this but the fact that you can do it is clearly a bug. I've let HTC know about it (although they are probably following the forums anyway).
herman3101 said:
Tis nice to have the option to do this but the fact that you can do it is clearly a bug. I've let HTC know about it (although they are probably following the forums anyway).
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It's not a bug lol, the Sense UI home is simply a separate application to the original home instead of a replacement. like aHome, Dxtop etc etc.
also, holding the home button shows you recently run applications, not applications still running =)
Ok i can't do it on my Hero. Why?? i don't know. MY phone is sim free and not from orange or t-mobile. Maby that's why ??
yeah, it only seems to happen on the Orange and T-Mobile ones. It's not supposed to happen at all!
The Ui is indeed just an application, but it is supposed to run instead of the original Home and you aren't supposed to have access to it any more.
rhedgehog said:
yeah, it only seems to happen on the Orange and T-Mobile ones. It's not supposed to happen at all!
The Ui is indeed just an application, but it is supposed to run instead of the original Home and you aren't supposed to have access to it any more.
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If this is the case are the phones faulty then? Do we ring and ask for new ones. ( mine is a bit worn now had it a week)
they all seem to do it. it appears to be a bug in the firmwares.
I'm sat here with a brown sim free one, running 1.76.405.6 and i can not get it to do this, no matter what i try. each method that people have posted to get it to doit, just simply doesn't seem to do it on the unbranded ones.
I saw a preview device back in may, that had the watermarked screen, and that did do it occasionally, but the release one from work doesn't seem to do it.
Normal Android Home On Hero
Guys Its very obviously not a bug, but actually a very cool feature.
If you cant access the original home,
Here's what to do...
Go to Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
Scroll down to 'TouchFLO' and hit 'clear defaults'
Obviously this will clear the default action of taking you to the TouchFLO or Rosie UI home.
When you have done this every time you press the home button you will have a choice. Home or TouchFLO.
HERE'S THE HANDY THING ABOUT IT...
So far a bunch of apps have either had trouble or not worked at all due to the TouchFLO UI on the hero. And for obvious reasons. So...
Hit home and choose to launch TouchFLO by default (so you don't have the option of the normal android home)
Download Bar Control by the legendary Andrew Schwimmer for free on the market. open it and scroll to home. Click on home and choose an icon from the list. I chose the home icon but go crazy and choose the little android or whatever.
Now you can only go to the TouchFLO home when you press the physical home key but in you notification bar you can tap the home (or whatever icon you chose) icon and go to the original 3 screen android home.
WHY ITS A COOL FEATURE...
When in the original 3 screen android home the sense UI is not taking up foreground processes. as far as I know anyway. Reason I think this is I am a: now able to install and fully use apps that wouldn't work whilst on the Touch FLO home. And b: my Copilot Live Sat Nav works far better with almost no glitches. Thus bringing me to the conclusion that switching homes is a banging idea/feature
Thank you for you time
dmanbwxe
now that IS cool!
even though it is a bug, cos it's not supposed to do it out of the box (although yes, you can fiddle with it) Having the two like that is a nice set up!!
Yet another cool little tweak. you gotta love Android
I registered just so I could say...
Brilliant!
rhedgehog said:
now that IS cool!
even though it is a bug, cos it's not supposed to do it out of the box (although yes, you can fiddle with it) Having the two like that is a nice set up!!
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I just spoke with HTC yesterday and asked about this..
Apparently you need to think of Sense UI like TouchFlo on the Windows Mobile. If you don't like it (and some won't) they have allowed the user to choose whether they want the original or Touch Flo.
So looks like it is not a bug, but its actually meant to do this.
Nice going I say, pleases everyone, and also..... Nice to know that the phone is very fast and responsive without Sense UI, meaning that like Touch Flo 3D, its just a tweaking game to get it to work flawlessly and smoothly, which will come in the future.
@dmanbwxe
just to clarify then- after going through all the steps you said there, pressing home will return to touchflo home as it did before, as if nothing was changed, yes? Definitely not bringing up a menu to pick which home I want?
EDIT- double post
I did this and saw a very significant performance improvement, so set 'Home' to be my default. Now I always go to the standard Android screen. In the settings menu the default option is now grayed out and holding home doesn't give me an option. Is there anyway to get sense back? I don't want to keep it, but would like to play with it some more, but mainly just have the option, I guess.
Oh, without going back to factory defaults ;-)
Homeswitcher did the trick for me (available in the market)

[Q] want to change the recent app button to task manager

There are 3 buttons at the bottom left, back,home, and recent app.
Is it possible to change the recent app button to open the task manager.
Pressing the home button for few seconds just feels too slow.
I'm rooted and on overcome rom.
I heard android is all about customization, hope this is possible.
No reply,not possible at all?
Quite a good idea
I'll have a look
It may be easy may be hard
BroBot175 said:
Quite a good idea
I'll have a look
It may be easy may be hard
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Yeah, thank you!
I really dislike the recent app button. Its so useless n slow.
The task manager is the best way to switch app n close app.
Dear brobot 175
The main request is to have a instant access to the task manager.
which makes closing and switching task very fast and easy.
Eg. Playing angry birds, if wana exit, need to press back, tap the in game menu, exit, exit, a pop up appear, tap yes. Different app will have different method to exit. Very troublesome.
Press and hold the home button to fire up task manager and press the x is much faster and easier.
But its slow to wait, hope there is a faster way for it rather then touch and hold home button.
Pressing the mini tray is even slower so that's not an option.
Able to replace the recent app to task manager is great.
If that's not possible, I have another suggestion.
Is it possible to add a shortcut next to the screen shot button?
As far as i know, the screenshot button is not on stock honeycomb, its and added feature.
Seeing there's space for about 4 more shortcuts, adding a task manager will be super sweet.
What do you think?
i have had a play around a bit but i think the shortcuts for the miniapps are actually embedded in a java file
i cant understand much java so im kinda stuffed
i did however get the wifi on/off buttons to go in the taskbar but thats not really what you were asking i know :L
just on writing this i have just had an idea and i shall have another look at this tonight
cheerrs
BroBot175 said:
i have had a play around a bit but i think the shortcuts for the miniapps are actually embedded in a java file
i cant understand much java so im kinda stuffed
i did however get the wifi on/off buttons to go in the taskbar but thats not really what you were asking i know :L
just on writing this i have just had an idea and i shall have another look at this tonight
cheerrs
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you manage to put a button on a taskbar to toggle wifi?
thats amazing!!
good luck with your research.
if you can make it an app, that can put shortcuts on the taskbar, it would be amazing, and make it an app in the market.
after closer observation, the taskbar can have at most 6 icons on the bottom left. since when in portrait, the space becomes small and only can accomodate 6.
right now 4 are permanently there. (back,home,recent app,screenshot)
if can add 2 more would be nice, a task manager, and one more say...volume control? (like the one in desktop window, click once and a bar appear for volume control)
ahahaha, i am already dreaming too much.
Aha yeah you are!
Well as I've said before in have no idea how to make a shortcut to taskmanager but the volume may be possible
I have tried making an app imitate the mini calculator so you can launch it from the miniapps bar but it hasn't worked so far :L overall nothing really works right now

[Q] safe to flash mods from other roms?

Hi, I'm using kang ics rom now.
I saw that in the task rom,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
There are some extra stuff like touch widz task manager.
It mentions in the description just flash in cwm.
Is it safe to do that?
My instinct tells me it won't work so easily, but just want to be sure.
Why can't it work anyway?
Ray1 said:
Hi, I'm using kang ics rom now.
I saw that in the task rom,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
There are some extra stuff like touch widz task manager.
It mentions in the description just flash in cwm.
Is it safe to do that?
My instinct tells me it won't work so easily, but just want to be sure.
Why can't it work anyway?
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ICS already has a better support for task manager, Where you would need to hold home button in the HC, ICS has a vastly improved multi-tasking system which is accurate, Some people don't know but you need to press the Multi-task key and slide the app from left to right to close it. Same goes with notifications.
That itself is the task manager for ICS. You aren't able to do this on HC ROM's.
I wouldn't add them in ICS because the default launcher's are different, and HC has horrible multi-tasking system.
Misledz said:
ICS already has a better support for task manager, Where you would need to hold home button in the HC, ICS has a vastly improved multi-tasking system which is accurate, Some people don't know but you need to press the Multi-task key and slide the app from left to right to close it. Same goes with notifications.
That itself is the task manager for ICS. You aren't able to do this on HC ROM's.
I wouldn't add them in ICS because the default launcher's are different, and HC has horrible multi-tasking system.
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hi, i am aware of the ICS task manager swipe to close.
but its slow. example i have 5 apps open, i would have to swipe one, wait for the animation to fall. then swipe another. its actually really slow.
on HC touch widz task manager, i can tap tap tap very fast to close app. and there's the all mighty "end all" button that is really good.
able to know how much ram is available is an added bonus as well.
as much as the ICS task manager is cool and nice, it has a big bug.
it display both "Recent app" AND "running app" without letting us know which is which. even if i exit one app the proper back way, it will appear in the task manager. which is silly. :-(
if i add the touch widz one, i was hoping to keep both ICS and HC touch manager. no harm to have both.
back to the question, is it possible to flash it without problem?
Well you can try it, not telling you that human curiosity is bad, but atleast make a backup just so you can revert if ever human curiosity didn't turn out so good
I however am confused, how is the animation slow? I mean I can swipe it fast to let it close faster, I like the animation however makes it feel, fluid? Less transitions and more smoothness. As far as I know that's just some consumer benefit, animation goes smooth, user thinks "AH GOOD SIR TABLET IS BLOODY FAST". Works if you ask me .
Well ICS is still kang/alpha release, so it's not perfect but it's good for everyday use compared the previous builds which was barely usable I don't even know if ICS has a standalone task manager o.o
Misledz said:
Well you can try it, not telling you that human curiosity is bad, but atleast make a backup just so you can revert if ever human curiosity didn't turn out so good
I however am confused, how is the animation slow? I mean I can swipe it fast to let it close faster, I like the animation however makes it feel, fluid? Less transitions and more smoothness. As far as I know that's just some consumer benefit, animation goes smooth, user thinks "AH GOOD SIR TABLET IS BLOODY FAST". Works if you ask me .
Well ICS is still kang/alpha release, so it's not perfect but it's good for everyday use compared the previous builds which was barely usable I don't even know if ICS has a standalone task manager o.o
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are you using a ics kang rom now?
hard to explain, but if you do this, you will get what i mean.
open 10 random apps.
try as fast as you can to close them all. you will spend at least 10 seconds no matter how fast you swipe.
on touch widz task manager, i'm sure you can make 10 taps in less than 5/6 seconds. or the "end all" which is instant all close.
i may be too picky...lol...but as you said, human curiosity is hard to resist.
so if i do a nandroid backup, and something screws up, i can revert back to my usual state, no risk involved?
Ray1 said:
are you using a ics kang rom now?
hard to explain, but if you do this, you will get what i mean.
open 10 random apps.
try as fast as you can to close them all. you will spend at least 10 seconds no matter how fast you swipe.
on touch widz task manager, i'm sure you can make 10 taps in less than 5/6 seconds. or the "end all" which is instant all close.
i may be too picky...lol...but as you said, human curiosity is hard to resist.
so if i do a nandroid backup, and something screws up, i can revert back to my usual state, no risk involved?
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Yes I am on the Kang ROM @ build 25 atm.
There is that, Flash and probably end up glitchy
OR
You can download Advanced Task Killer on the Market for free might I add, which almost does the same as Task Manager
Also Nandroid backup's are amazing, they are the time machine's for Android devices. Restores everything the way it was, ...before human curiosity
thanks, i'll try out the advance task killer.
Ray1 said:
thanks, i'll try out the advance task killer.
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Sure And the verdict is?
not so well.
no wonder its called "advance" task manager.
it display all the process and service behind as well.
i just want a simple task manager to let me know which is currently running app.
if i tap kill all, it will kill ALL back ground process, which i know is more of a battery waste. i know that task manager that kills process is not a good thing.

EASY way to instantly exit current app?

...and I don't mean 'minmize' like what pressing the home or back button does. (which merely puts it in the multitasker menu list, still open.)
I mean closing it like when you swipe it out of the menu list. (which are far as I can tell, seems to close it off enough to stop what it's doing and free up the memory it was using!)
Sometimes I want to just close an app since I know I won't be using it for a while and I want to conserve cpu/memory/battery - or merely manage the list of things in my multitask list. kinda like on Desktop. (you don't want every app on your pc open all at once, do you, do you?!) and I just want a simple way like on the desktop to close that app when I want to close it.
SO: Is there some app that can assign a custom screen gesture (like the lovely letter C for 'close') to perform 'fully exit current app' or some solution like that? I started to research, but couldn't seem to find one very quickly, so thought I'd ask here, at THE place to ask.
also I apologise for using things like Windows terms ('minimize'), i know that's not how it works in android. But you do know what I mean.
Thanks
This is a question that a lot of people ask when moving to Android and the answer simply is, forget about it.
Android handles processes and memory in a completely different way to Windows. When an app is "minimized" it obviously leaves a footprint in the memory, but it uses no CPU (unless it's a polling app or something that keeps alive for a specific purpose).
Just trust Android to handle memory management - it does a very good job of it.
If you really, really MUST do something about it then the best thing you can do is get something like Juice Defender (there's tons of similar apps) and make it kill apps periodically. Most apps that people use for this type of purpose are merely placebo, but if it makes you feel better then I guess it's serving a purpose.
Archer said:
This is a question that a lot of people ask when moving to Android and the answer simply is, forget about it.
Android handles processes and memory in a completely different way to Windows. When an app is "minimized" it obviously leaves a footprint in the memory, but it uses no CPU (unless it's a polling app or something that keeps alive for a specific purpose).
Just trust Android to handle memory management - it does a very good job of it.
If you really, really MUST do something about it then the best thing you can do is get something like Juice Defender (there's tons of similar apps) and make it kill apps periodically.
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Thanks for your answer. I can sense you have wisdom and experience in your words there, but I want to probe a little further.
surely there can be an almost macro-like (again, windows terminology, sorry) functionality, that can be assigned to a gesture swipe that can emulate pressing home button, then swiping the bottom item away from the multitask menu? (which is always the one you just 'minimized')? Could an app like Tasker even do it?
i agree that good memory management is a beautiful thing, but there really should be manual control of closing apps, my reasons above are stated.
i wouldn't touch automatic time-based closing, i sometimes have saved states in apps and wouldn't want them closed when i don't want them closed.
Most apps that people use for this type of purpose are merely placebo, but if it makes you feel better then I guess it's serving a purpose.
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you really think it's all placebo, and that say, running 50 apps in android with finite set amount of ram on the device is all fine simply due to memory management?
is me experiencing lag in some android apps (or battery draining faster than I'd like), then closing off several running apps in the multitask list, then noticing the problem go away, all placebo????? what about google maps, say?! I'd love a one-step swipe action to CLOSE google maps when I'm done with it, not having to press home button, then multitask button, then swipe away google maps. (I know when minimized it consumes nothing like it does when open, but I think still it consumes more than if it were fully closed...)
it's not just about memory. edit: and I already stated in addition, I often want to simply manage what I have open. this is a basic function in desktop OSes, I think it's time it came to mobile. if not officially, there surely must be some hack/tool to do it. :S
download a task killer app with a widget.
press home button and press the widget and you're done
If you're using AOKP based ROM then there is hold back to kill in Settings > ROM control > general UI
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Hold homesçern key
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jman2131 said:
download a task killer app with a widget.
press home button and press the widget and you're done
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that's about 2/3 the way towards the current 3-step solution though :/.
Am I to be amazed that a function to put this simple task into a single gesture hasn't been done? or isn't possible? it HAS to be possible. Otherwise I'd be flabbergasted.
I have googled further and just can't seem to find something :|.
WAIT! I think I have! here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontroldemo&hl=en it has a "kill task" function that you can set up a custom gesture for. it's a start.
however I'm getting a "ERROR! No ROOT permissions?" error despite being rooted with supersu and successfully using other root apps etc, so I've emailed the dev and hope I can get it working :S.
But still, it seems a little clunky the offering of custom gesture types. I can't set a nice curvy gesture defined by tracing it on the screen. oh well - it's a start.....
jootanen said:
If you're using AOKP based ROM then there is hold back to kill in Settings > ROM control > general UI
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That seems the holy grail! too bad I'm on stock jb with plans for upgrading to CM .....

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