A new cheap China tablet: "Voyo Q101 4G" a.k.a. "Teclast 98" 2GB/32GB octa w/ LTE
So far I have not found any related discussions or suggestions for this rather new and very cheap tablet.
Mine is still in the mail, but I am curious how to 'open' it up, i.e. getting root functionality and maybe some other needed modifications to make it really useful?
The spec sheets for both the Teclast 98 and the Voyo Q101 4G are identical, apparently they use identical hardware (MT6753, Mali-T720, 2/32GB) and also the same stock Android 6.0 image?
On paper the specifications and functions look very appealing, and its street price of less than $100 (88Euro) will probably stir up the low end market quite a bit.
There may be even more clones with different names, does anybody know about these? It may help to compile generic information, applicable to all of these identical devices.
Has anybody started tinkering with this new 'phablet'? There seem to be issues with its phone functionality, with the recognition of 64GB memory cards, no root success messages so far, etc.
Which rooting method will work and prevent 'bricking' such a device? What else could be flashed or installed on it?
Thanks for any ideas and thoughts!
A comparing data sheet of these tablets (either model, Voyo or Teclast) I found here:
https://www.kimovil.com/de/compare-tablets/teclast-98-2gb-32gb,voyo-q101
Hello
I bought a Voyo Q101 and should have been delivered by this week.
I bought it because they speak it well, it has a very low price and the 64 bit MTK6752 processor has good features and can play with it.
I will still try to study the competing model Teclast 98 because it probably has the same identical hardware and maybe even the scatter + ROMs are the same.
I hope it is not difficult but I would like to have the following things available:
- ROM original (backup)
- ROOT
- TWRP working for this device.
I wrote to Voyo asking if he could upload the tablet's firmware to http://en.myvoyo.com/ so you could have at least the scatter.txt to create a custom TWRP and at least be able to create a backup yourself SP FlashTools.
It is not easy to do these things but try it does not cost anything.
Then it will not be difficult to do the Root, always through TWRP.
I hope someone will join this thread so that they can work together.
So we are two already!
I also contacted Voyo in this matter, and am considering to approach Teclast as well. As far as I know these two devices ARE absolutely identical. Both could benefit from community driven tools, improvements and fixes.
The interesting is, why the divice is not in Voyo site?
Anyway, does anyone know if it can accept an SD card as internal memory? I read about a problem in which it does not use 32GB as storage storage apps, only a small part. Does anyone know anything about this?
Weverton Douglas said:
The interesting is, why the divice is not in Voyo site?
Anyway, does anyone know if it can accept an SD card as internal memory? I read about a problem in which it does not use 32GB as storage storage apps, only a small part. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Here is the link to the Voyo website and spec sheet of the Q101; interestingly they mention a slightly larger 5Ah battery, while it usually is advertised with 4900mAh.
http://en.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingban/811.shtml
Isnt't the SD card issue (moving apps and/or data to the external memory) an Android 6.0 issue in general?
I am using Link2SD on my four rooted devices with older Android revisions (2.3, 4, 5), also an extra SDEext partition.
I definitely want and need a similar method for this phablet.
For the sake of compiling all available international information about the "Q101 4G"/"TecLast Tpad 98 4G" I dug up two threads in other (Ru, I) forums:
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/tu...ad-ufficiale-voyo-q101-4g-phablet-10-1-a.html
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=826767&st=0
My Russian (as Google's) is rusty, it is not easy to read these threads..
According to one source TWRP and Kingroot may work to open it up.
TecLast has apparently released its image, but I cannot locate it?
It would be nice if anyone could confirm that indeed these two phablets from Voyo and Teclast ARE absolutely identical.
It would certainly simplify their maintenance and control.
WOW BOYS !!!!
We are in many users !!!
Unfortunately, for the moment, the ROMs are not available on Voyo's website and Teclast's website.
We hope they provide fast.
By comparing the firmware we may be able to know if they are exactly the same.
Let's try to take a step at a time.
A) find the devices ROM
B) Create a TWRP to install at least ROOT permissions .... even if I think I can install them through ADB commands.
C) Installing an AD Block (for me very important)
I would also like to know that OTA updates will be released because in this case we will not be able to change the recovery, at least until the ROM is stable.
PS: I think someone should open an official thread on XDA because it is right to do so.
However, we are trying to understand whether the two tablets are the same.
Yes, I do agree that a 'formal' topic should be created, for EACH of the two devices, because:
I did find out that they apparently are NOT identical as the link https://www.kimovil.com/de/compare-t...32gb,voyo-q101 indicated; their specs are simply wrong!
The russian site http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=832099 has a neat selection of infos about the Voyo Q101 4G, but is hard to read. We need a similar ENGLISH version to help each other out.
The "Voyo Q101 4G" is also sold as the "Voyo i8" (Asian market?); there was another "Q101" model sold by Voyo years ago, with entirely different hardware and a smaller 9.7in screen. Very confusing marketing...
As to the differences between Voyo Q101 4G and Teclast Tpad 98 I did find out:
dimensions really are:
Teclast TPad 98 - - - 238 x 170 x 9.89 mm
VOYO Q101 4G - - - 242 x 172 x 9,0 mm
Different GSM/LTE bands (unverified):
Voyo:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz,
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1900 / 2100MHz, Band 1 / 2/5/8
4G: LTE FDD-1800/2100 / 2600MHz, Band 1/2/3/4 / 5/7/8/17/20 , LTE-TDD - Band 38/39/40/41
TecLast:
2G: GSM 900/1800 MHz,
3G: WCDMA - 2100MHz, die TD-SCDMA - Band 34/39
4G: FDD-LTE 1800/2100 MHz, Band 1/3, TDD-LTE Band 38/39/40
Someone seems to have flashed the Voyo with the Teclast image and lost the camera flashlight function?
The Teclast Tpad 98 image looks like this:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634772747
So we really should be careful about mixing the similar but apparently not identical devices up.
If someone speaks RUSSIAN it would be helpful to translate the useful info and instructions found at
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=832099, also their pool of firmware and tools around the rooting/flashing etc. They seem to be far ahead with this thinh, while I am still waiting to receive my own unit.
Where will the 'official' support topics for the Voyo Q101 4G and the Teclast Tpad 98 be put on this XDA site?
I am not really a wiz, not too active, more a curious user with some urge to tinker a bit and squeeze the most out of this interesting and feature loaded phablet, a real steal at $99!
Thanks!
Be carefull. Teclast 98 and Teclast T98 are different models. The VOYO Q101 is the same with Teclast 98.
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Be carefull. Teclast 98 and Teclast T98 are different models. The VOYO Q101 is the same with Teclast 98.
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According to Teclast's website there is only a 'Teclast 98 (octacore)' on the market these days:
http://www.teclast.com/en/tablet.html
It uses the MT6753.
But is still NOT identical to the Voyo Q101 4G as outlined above (dimensions, mobile bands, firmware).
I do find a variety of older offers for a 'T98', with varying CPU and Android versions (MT8752T,MT8735P. Android 4.4, 5.1,.). They of course are entirely different beasts than the actual '98'-
Voyo shows their 10.1in MT6753 model now as 'Q101' (without mentioning "4G" in the model name):
http://en.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingban/811.shtml
And the same model again as "i8" when using the Chinese site:
http://www.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingbandiannao/872.html
An earlier version of "Voyo Q101" was offered years ago, using 1GB/16GB and a MT6582, with Android 5.1 It disappeared from Voyo's website. Again an entirely different beast.
It is the actual MT6753/10.1in/Android 6.0 version that is the core of this discussion.
So I am still suggesting to create TWO official threads, like at 4pda.ru.
For each the "Voyo Q101 4G" AND possibly also the "Teclast Tpad 98" if there is an interested group of owners.
I am still expecting my Voyo; currently I am simply trying to prep myself, collecting tools and infos, so I can at least root it, my main desire.
Thanks!
I've had one of these for a few weeks now. Purchased from GB. Works and just fine although I haven't tried a sim card in it but has one major issue. If I let the battery run down the tablet will suddenly switch off and after that it won't accept any charge or turn back on. I think it's either the battery voltage sensing hardware or the firmware. For such a cheap device I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of sending it back so I voided the warranty by opening it up and used my lab power supply to recharge the battery which was initially reading 2.95 volts. When it had charged to 3.7V I put the tablet back together and it worked fine again. This has happened twice now (both times when another family member was using it).
Thanks for the heads up on the bad voltage sensor issue!
On all my mobile devices I am using a floating battery voltage widget (Resource Monitor Mini Pro), that tells the current voltage. It is way more precise than the estimated percentage display by Android. I found that these % readings vary with each restart/recharge, will hang at some values and then suddendly dive to zero.
I am now reacting to voltage readings only, and recharge my devices as soon as they drop below 3,55V, a full charge usually tops off around 4.15V.
Makes me wonder how long the Q101 will run on a full 'usable' charge in the modes:
- Display on
- +WLAN on
- +GPS on
?
Looks like there is very little interest at XDA regarding this Voyo tablet, a real pity.
I will now try to join the 4PDA forum at Russia, as they have a very active and knowledgable group of i8/Q101 4G owners.
Reading technical instructions in "Russian-English" was not my goal, but apparently I am forced to go down that route.
Should XDA ever decide to formally support the Voyo Q101 4G/i8 (aka Teclast Tpad 98), please let me know - thanks!
Anyything new? i also own a q101 and would look Forward exploring that a custom Rom works...
Mine arrived two days ago.
First impressions:
- heavy, probably due to the battery; it drains at 0.3%/hr idle over night, 12%/hr in full use; not too bad if one keeps the display dimmed.
- all advertised functions work, incl. phone, GPS, WLAN, BT, FM radio, cameras
- a magnetic sensor is reported, but not really 'there', shows fixed values
- the display is OK, speed as well, the two speakers are tinny
- there seems to be a screen protector installed already. I will leave it on for now, until I find a source for good MATTE protectors that fit this 10" display.
- my Sandisk 32GB UHC memory card was accepted, a new 64GB card is on its way
- it may report a new MAC address with each WLAN connect, not confirmed yet
The lack of sensors is the biggest disappointment so far, it will limit its functionality (astronomy, navigation etc) a lot.
I tried to sign up at the Russian pda site, but am failing the numeric captcha test so far, bummer. I started learning Russian numbering now, so I can pass the test!
They DO have neat tools, I even found a first image "2017-06-28--00-39-41_Q101_V01" there, but am not sure what to do with it? Reading the auto-translated instructions destroys a lot of the valuable information.
Are TWRP files always 'customized'? Can I use the one for the Teclast Tpad 98? Apparently the Teclast has NO camera flashlight, so its FW may not be suitable for the Voyo Q101 4G (aka i8)?
Maybe it is too early and new interested Q101 4G/i8 owners will pop up here soon?
So far I am collecting all infos, files, tools etc to prep myself.
My sole intention is to have a rooted tablet; I am not so much into customization as long as it is not necessary due to bugs in the original FW.
Anyone?!
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Mine arrived two days ago.
First impressions:
- heavy, probably due to the battery; it drains at 0.3%/hr idle over night, 12%/hr in full use; not too bad if one keeps the display dimmed.
- all advertised functions work, incl. phone, GPS, WLAN, BT, FM radio, cameras
- a magnetic sensor is reported, but not really 'there', shows fixed values
- the display is OK, speed as well, the two speakers are tinny
- there seems to be a screen protector installed already. I will leave it on for now, until I find a source for good MATTE protectors that fit this 10" display.
- my Sandisk 32GB UHC memory card was accepted, a new 64GB card is on its way
- it may report a new MAC address with each WLAN connect, not confirmed yet
The lack of sensors is the biggest disappointment so far, it will limit its functionality (astronomy, navigation etc) a lot.
I tried to sign up at the Russian pda site, but am failing the numeric captcha test so far, bummer. I started learning Russian numbering now, so I can pass the test!
They DO have neat tools, I even found a first image "2017-06-28--00-39-41_Q101_V01" there, but am not sure what to do with it? Reading the auto-translated instructions destroys a lot of the valuable information.
Are TWRP files always 'customized'? Can I use the one for the Teclast Tpad 98? Apparently the Teclast has NO camera flashlight, so its FW may not be suitable for the Voyo Q101 4G (aka i8)?
Maybe it is too early and new interested Q101 4G/i8 owners will pop up here soon?
So far I am collecting all infos, files, tools etc to prep myself.
My sole intention is to have a rooted tablet; I am not so much into customization as long as it is not necessary due to bugs in the original FW.
Anyone?!
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I have mine for 1 or 2 weeks now, it came with scratches on screen. So a little bit disapointing but all in all it is OK.
First of all I rooted it with KingRoot, worked fine but with little bit of ads. So I used Lucky Patcher and Ads are gone.
On the Voyo Q101 it shows Android 6.0 but that is not true. It is Android SDK version 22 and that is Android 5.
So I really hope for a new custom rom with Android 6.
Scratches: have you tried removing the (soft) screen cover? IMHO there IS a protection film over the entire front surface.
Root: you only used the KingRoot tool, no other preparations like TWRP (is this needed?)?
I read elsewhere about the Android 5/6 issue, cannot really tell so far. Most 6.0 features would not apply, but the tool for app permissions and battery dozing.
Just found out that the original 2A charger died after using it once: it now delivers 4.7V and 200-400mA only, nice..
My luck, as usual.
mw210461 said:
Scratches: have you tried removing the (soft) screen cover? IMHO there IS a protection film over the entire front surface.
Root: you only used the KingRoot tool, no other preparations like TWRP (is this needed?)?
I read elsewhere about the Android 5/6 issue, cannot really tell so far. Most 6.0 features would not apply, but the tool for app permissions and battery dozing.
Just found out that the original 2A charger died after using it once: it now delivers 4.7V and 200-400mA only, nice..
My luck, as usual.
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The scratches were under the screen protection, so I thought there would be a second one.
Now I know that this was the screen itself, it is also just plastic. So I ordered a case, that no one can see the edges where I tried with a swiss knife the get down the "second" protective film.
Yes, Kingroot worked for me. No TWRP, I dont have it.
When I got the tablet I tried out the stock recovery but there are only chinese signs. I had luck not to damage anything there.
Screen on time could be a bit better, I get about 5 hours on 2 days. Only surfing and small apps, no gaming.
The display is known to be easily scratched, I am currently looking for 10.1" protection films that will fit and have a MATTE surface. For now I will stick (pun!) to the one they installed at the factory.
KINGROOT does indeed work and roots the device, good idea! But in an odd way, at least for me:
- all attempts to install the APK version failed, despite accepting warnings and allowing for 3rd party apps it would simply end the installation process with 'not installed'
- using the Windows method the tool ran for over 10min, with slowly crawling percentage points, ending with a 'failed' message
- when looking into the device I DID find both Kingroot and Purify installed! Root checking still reported a failure, but a run of the Kingroot app eventually reported success!
For now I will stick to the Kingroot approach, but would prefer the SuperSU method. I did find a SuperSU-Me tool that apparently will replace KR by SU. Not sure if I should take the risk?
The device DOES alter its MAC address at each WLAN connection. I HATE this, as it clutters my router's network item list and prevents me from using dedicated network device names.
This is not the first Android device that messes my router up.
I could fix the same issue on a smartphone (NEO N003) years ago. But never succeeded in fixing it on a smartphone watch (AN1).
Does anyone know how to force this MAC address to stay constant under Android '6' (aka API 22 which indeed is '5')?
I am adding a series of screen shots demonstrating the device's design (HW and SW), for those interested in working on it. Hopefully more owners and users will share their experience and findings, to keep this thread alive.
Thanks!
No network and battery issue
I bought this and facing following two problem.
1. The battery is 1% after continuous recharge a
2. also the mobile network is not working at all with SIM card. Tried multiple things to make SIM card work but no avail
Does M-Pen stylus work on M5 8? or just M5 10 Pro?
M5 Pro Only.
The M-Pen and its functions. has anyone used it/them yet? I know the really nice functions from the Galaxy Tab S3 (like screen off note taking) and cool stuff. Does anyone know about the functions of the m-pen? and which apps would you suggest to add to the Stylus the most?
as for note-taking, I hope nebo can hold up to the expectations that are created by their website x.x
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M5 Pro Only.
The M-Pen and its functions. has anyone used it/them yet? I know the really nice functions from the Galaxy Tab S3 (like screen off note taking) and cool stuff. Does anyone know about the functions of the m-pen? and which apps would you suggest to add to the Stylus the most?
as for note-taking, I hope nebo can hold up to the expectations that are created by their website x.x
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I know it's really nice indeed, but the biggest problem is that Android doesn't support stylus, however Samsung has S-pen, google has pixel pen and Huawei has M-Pen, and each company has its drivers and the apps that works with, so third party apps have to support each one of them.
1 just stumbled upon this:https://source.android.com/devices/accessories/stylus seems like stylus support to me?
Most apps that support styluses also support this one. Apps dont have to target specific hardware. I mostly use lecturenotes, handwrite pro, xedo and the preinstalled nebo for huawei. The latter is a pretty cool app, especially the formula editor.
Other than that the pen can take screenshots. Huawei didnt implement a lot of pen specific apps or features. I enjoy it for uni mostly. Unfortunately ezpdf reader doesnt work with android 8 or at least not with this tablet.
Havent found any pressure sensitive apps which wouldnt work with this pen. Try sketchbook for example. It even alters the line with different angles like a real pencil. You can do decent drawings =)
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Most apps that support styluses also support this one. Apps dont have to target specific hardware. I mostly use lecturenotes, handwrite pro, xedo and the preinstalled nebo for huawei. The latter is a pretty cool app, especially the formula editor.
Other than that the pen can take screenshots. Huawei didnt implement a lot of pen specific apps or features. I enjoy it for uni mostly. Unfortunately ezpdf reader doesnt work with android 8 or at least not with this tablet.
Havent found any pressure sensitive apps which wouldnt work with this pen. Try sketchbook for example. It even alters the line with different angles like a real pencil. You can do decent drawings =)
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I think nebo is quite good. My handwriting is not recognized all the time ... I am a historian after all ...
I bought my former tablet for the same purpose, using it at university, however, the battery was too bad. I had to charge the Galaxy Tab S3 after 3 lectures (each 90 minutes), and all I did was making notes etc. I switched to the Mediapad M5 Pro, mainly due to this ... (Although I finished my studies last September...)
The Screenshot functionality is kinda ... dunno, useless to me ...
I am using Pen&PDF (free, without adds) for working with pdfs. It's a lot like Samsung's "Write on PDF" (which is not available for other devices, if I am not mistaken)
I hope that some neat features are introduced by this great community, of which I am merely a part, as my coding skills are not that advanced
I had bought the regular M5 10.8 because of the Space Gray color. Does anyone know where I can buy the pen separately? The ones that I saw on ebay are for the M2 tablet.
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I had bought the regular M5 10.8 because of the Space Gray color. Does anyone know where I can buy the pen separately? The ones that I saw on ebay are for the M2 tablet.
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I too bought the M5 10.8" (non-pro) because of the space gray color. Anyone have recommendations on a stylus/pen for the mediapad m5 (non-pro)?
Don't need it for ultraprecision, just light photo editing.
a friend is using https://www.wacom.com/de-de/products/stylus/bamboo-tip with his Tablets - I tried it with my S3 that I had before and with my Galaxyy S8 - it worked quite good! However, I haven't tried it with the Mediapad M5 (pro) yet...
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a friend is using https://www.wacom.com/de-de/products/stylus/bamboo-tip with his Tablets - I tried it with my S3 that I had before and with my Galaxyy S8 - it worked quite good! However, I haven't tried it with the Mediapad M5 (pro) yet...
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Thank you! Will check Wacom out.
Help me with my Huawei MediaPad M5 10.8
Hello everyone I need help, I bought the Huawei MediaPad M5 10.8 (not the pro version) and then I bought the Huawei mpen. Well, the tablet does not detect the mpen. I have contacted the technical service by chat on their website and I have been told that the mpen is not compatible. How can this be possible? Can I make it compatible in some way? Thank you.
Netica said:
Hello everyone I need help, I bought the Huawei MediaPad M5 10.8 (not the pro version) and then I bought the Huawei mpen. Well, the tablet does not detect the mpen. I have contacted the technical service by chat on their website and I have been told that the mpen is not compatible. How can this be possible? Can I make it compatible in some way? Thank you.
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Its hardware related so nothing can be done...
A friend of mine use MEKO pen (about 20$ on amazon).
I'm gonna buy the m5 non pro because the pro version is too expensive compared to these added features.
M5 non pro with 32Gb and sd 64gb will be good enough. I'll buy this pen for drawing some stuff.
Simgt35 said:
A friend of mine use MEKO pen (about 20$ on amazon).
I'm gonna buy the m5 non pro because the pro version is too expensive compared to these added features.
M5 non pro with 32Gb and sd 64gb will be good enough. I'll buy this pen for drawing some stuff.
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Really?
In Malaysia we have M5 8.4 LTE about $360 USD and M5 pro LTE $460 USD.
For $100 USD you get free men, larger display, 7500mah battery and 4 speakers!
If you are ok with 10.8" then the 100 buck will be worth every penny.
In the US
M5 8" wifi only $300
M5 10" wifi $360
M5 Pro wifi $450
If you really want to buy a 3rd party pen such as the Wacom bamboo pen. It might behoove you to just get the pro version. I ended up selling the m5 10" non pro to buy the M5 Pro version.
PlasticsDoc said:
. I ended up selling the m5 10" non pro to buy the M5 Pro version.
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How come?
I only got the pro because the difference between regular& pro was about $70.
Hi,
So i've bought Mediapad 10.8" M5 Wifi 32Go and MEKO pen.
It works very well.
300€ for mediapad (with 50€ refund offer) and 13€ for the meko pen.
I'm looking for a 128Gb SD card now.
The pen seems kinda useless to me to be honest?
Hello! I bought a new MediaPad M5 lite with a stylus, but the stylus does not work. Does it need to be turned on or activated or something else? At me such for the first time a stylus. I will be very grateful for the help.
svvmir said:
Hello! I bought a new MediaPad M5 lite with a stylus, but the stylus does not work. Does it need to be turned on or activated or something else? At me such for the first time a stylus. I will be very grateful for the help.
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Same thing happened with me.
Turns out mine came without charge.
Charged and works fine.