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GOT 720p clearing up the hack a bit and will release it most probably tomorrow
sorry for the confusin
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RP7LCIU4
here is the image
now thats the kinda stuff im talking about !
lets get some effort on this, gonna start digging thru the source now..
it would be awesome if we can get this working !!!!!!!!!!!
Everytime there is a new post, I check this thread, sadly its just motivational comments. If this happens though, we will have one more thing that makes the Nexus and even better phone.
Btw guys, the sensor is definitely capable of it. Like mentioned by the OP, it's just the encoding that is holding this up.
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Btw guys, the sensor is definitely capable of it. Like mentioned by the OP, it's just the encoding that is holding this up.
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What is the problem with the encoding to start with? I would much prefer to use the h264 codec to record video to start with, why does using it crash the camera app?
I think it would be better if we could get a constant bit rate for the video recorder instead, just like on the Milestone/Droid, rather than the frame skipping in indoor light conditions.
I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
But this is a good initiative anyway..
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I think it would be better if we could get a constant bit rate for the video recorder instead, just like on the Milestone/Droid, rather than the frame skipping in indoor light conditions.
I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
But this is a good initiative anyway..
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Thats exactly what I'm looking for in terms of fps. Made a thread requesting someone add the ability to records at constant 30fps and from my testing the framerate only drops when recording indoors or in low light conditions. The indoor lighting slows everything down but out side it records perfectly and smooth. If we can get that fixed by an android pro that would be great.
As for 720p I still think thats a hardware limitation somewhere in the lense or motherboard. If it was hardware possible, how come google didnt include that from the start?
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I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
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Just want to second this. The audio quality is pathetic and makes it useless for recording voice. It is one thing I miss from the iPhone. I'd assume that changing the audio codec and bitrate wouldn't be too hard for a good dev (which I certainly am not).
Records VERY well in ideal outside conditions, shot this the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPh9NQAiBPA
Haven't tried low light, but that is using MoDaCo A21 Desire ROM.
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Records VERY well in ideal outside conditions, shot this the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPh9NQAiBPA
Haven't tried low light, but that is using MoDaCo A21 Desire ROM.
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Yes I know it works well in outdoor lighting - the point was that it skips frames indoors.
From my experience of playing DSLR
the skipping in dim environment is probably because of insufficient CPU performance. When the light is dim, slower shutter speed and higher iso is required to obtain proper exposure, thus increase the noise. More cpu resource is needed to perform noise reduction. Then if the cpu is not strong enough, it skipps
If you take photos you know when you use high ISO and noise reduction at the same time, speed and the maximum frames of continuous shooting is usually affected.
So from my view, if we cannot improve the algorithm of encoder to achieve higher efficiency(which I think is quite difficult), then force disabling the noise reduction might be a way to solve this, although the video will be noisy...
just guessing...
along with this i was also working on 30fps and 44khz sound. the max fps i could get indoor was 26, couldnt test outdoor. i am testin the sound now. Hey and 30fps is a go but 44khz sound causes fc, will check the logs. Uploading a 26.176fps video recorded on my N1. IT STILL skips some frames but the limit is lifted from 24fps stock android
Great ...
I will try it out
BUT
Your screen shot says 720 x 480 ??
That is not 720p ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
The 720 refers to the height, not the lines
What you have is what is commonly referred to as DVD resolution (although really only for NTSC, as PAL is higher).
Incidentally ...
The Desire camera on the Nexus One can record at 800x480, but the I think it does it at 15 FPS and crap audio. 720x480 at 25-30 FPS with half decent audio would be very cool
Yes currently only 720x480. First trying to get decent video at this resolution. Then will move to increasing resolutions.
wow
480p to 720 p is a big jump
it's 2.67X data to process...
Nexus has the capability to do that, try recording a video on ur phone and see how fast it processes a 480p video. IDC if it takes a bit more time to process and if it can decode it it should be able to encode it. 528mhz magic 32a can record 640x480 so it should be possible for nexus with a far far better processor to atleast to 720p
anybody have the exact specifications of the nexus one processor, info about GPU and stuff, the problem on 720p is the excess load on processor which makes it hang and reboot
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anybody have the exact specifications of the nexus one processor, info about GPU and stuff, the problem on 720p is the excess load on processor which makes it hang and reboot
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This is what i could find in terms of info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576627
http://www.edn.com/info/CA6631784.html?industryid=48661
Not sure if it helps.
I also get the FCs with H264 but not with H263.
I bought 3 notes on sunday, one for myself, my wife and my dad, so I noticed that gray banding and pixelation when playing certain videos. So I set all 3 phones to the same Vevo video (kanye west and jay z) and its a good video to try cause it has lots of black and gray,same brightness on all phones and everything else the same,,,,and bam both my wifes and dads phone it was non existent and mine was a disaster......I couldnt whip out the box and receipt fast enough. Gonna swap it for another and hopefully all will be ok.......I wouldnt have known unless I had those other phones to directly compare, so to all of you out there maybe you need to swap yours as well.....
Can you provide a source and name for the video?
Not sure I know what you mean by source, but I downloaded the Vevo app which plays music videos at High Quality and the vid "N***** in Paris" by Kanye/Jay -Z set to high quality, brightness set to 50 percent. You could see banding on the right side during the very first few seconds of the vid and then on the bottom along the main part.....the bottom of the screen became all pixelated with the very deep blacks on my phone and the 2 others next to mine were fine.....
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He is seeing the same thing I've been seeing and trying to explain.
Here is my source go to veetle.com, and scroll down to a movie channel, one called movies 2012 or something like that. And make it full screen and watch carefully at the dark areas. It is definite banding but I think all the note displays will do this for now but the user is saying the other 2 phones arent doing this. I have a new one waiting for me tomorrow that I will compare this note with to see, hopefully the one I get tomorrow doesnt do this as thats the one I'm keeping for now.
Yep exactly, my wifes phone and dads werent doing it, my phone was atrocious, so I am gonna bring it back and exchange it. Luckily I had to to sit with and make sure all the setting were the same and play things at the same exact time.
That vevo app stinks for me though. Try watching the same video on youtube with hq selected, will probably look better. Yea for me looks much better on youtube, which vevo posted btw. I see minor banding and macroblocking but for a video that warns you about causing possible seizures lol thats minor stuff or expected on the display.
irregardless of where I watch it though why would my wifes phone and my dads look perfect under then same exact conditions on the same app?.....thats the reason why I am exchanging mine.
hey check this video i just made it i play the video you say but on browser on youtube desktop mode not mobile on 720 p http://youtu.be/gTxi_pOzNxA
plays like a charm for me vevo and youtube app plays the videos not so clear so test directly on browser using flash
I am thinking about returning mine after seeing u r post.
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irregardless of where I watch it though why would my wifes phone and my dads look perfect under then same exact conditions on the same app?.....thats the reason why I am exchanging mine.
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One or two settings must have been different.
Check the auto-power LCD settings, screen mode, power savings settings, etc.
While it's true that each screen is calibrated slightly different, the difference should not be so huge. I would imagine that the calibration is relatively identical across the screens or within a certain standard of error.
Also,l I would suggest you try and record all three in action to get a more objective view as I would imagine trying to simultaneously analyze 3 5.3" screens to be fairly difficult and might be subject to bias, etc.
DId you install other apps as well? Screen adjuster, etc?
The higher the base-brightness, the better the appearance of a temporary "band-aid" fix as it masks the problem by not having the phone attempt to render to lower black levels.
I think its the video. It's very pixelated. The more detail and shifting images on the screen per second, the more the compression is noticeable.
I would suggesting downloading a 720p video and test your screen then.
Absolutely everything about all 3 phones was exact....playing the same video....same screen settings....everything identical.....which is why I know my phone is having some problem with pixelation......at least until I exchange it tomorrow.....8)
There must be a newer codec or something on some of the phones. Heres my experience, Right at the begining scene where it says Kanye and the Jay, with people dancing in the letters on a black background.
1) Dolphin Browser-Declined to open in youtube, hit full screen within the embeded video. Put it up to 1080p, video studders and the black is greyish and to the right of the word JAY banding and bleeding.
2) Went to Vevo website(In dolphin), no way to pick video setting, same grey/banging and bleeding to the right.
3) Went to Vevo website in stock browser. Video choppy and froze phone.
4) Downloaded vevo app. Put on High quality still banding.
5)Loaded 1080p in native Youtube app, perfect Blacks and NO BANDING or BLEEDING!
Doesnt look that great on my 23"lcd either!
Whats the deal here guys? Sounds like the browers either have older codec that dont work so well with HQ video(they were studdering, lots of macroblocking) and th eYoutube app has newer ones as it plays silky smooth.
THough ive noticed with alot of the video on the web on this fone, maybe its because its mobile versions, the quality ranges dramatically. It may be that we have such a high res, the videos look worse than they would on most 800x400 android phones.
Most the videos have to be compressed anyway, even the video in the YT app had some slight macrobocking.
Now the one you returned, was the screen on the yellowish white and saturated red side? My whites are "warm" as opposed to "cool", save for some viewing angles. Turning up the brightness makes red too saturated, the mario brothers vs wright bros they look red/orange on full brighness, even on lowest still more than I would like.
I know every phone is diff. I had got a replacement Sayno and my whites went from cool to warm, same phone. Also, some people dont know how to shoot video, compress it or just have bad equipment or taste in editing.
hmm
How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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I think he's talking about the browser YouTube. It has 480/720/1080..
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CXENTE said:
I think he's talking about the browser YouTube. It has 480/720/1080..
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Thanks, that makes much more sense. I ended up testing that same video in 720P on the browser YouTube and the difference is night & day compared to the YouTube app's HQ version. Browser YouTube shows the video crystal clear!
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How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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Just download TubeMate from the Amazon app store. You can download and save any YouTube clip you want in the highest format possible. When I downloaded some 1980p and 720p videos I didn't notice any weird distortion etc.
I had a similar issue the other day, and after reading this thread I decided to load up the video I had the problem with. The video was the latest Game of Thrones season 2 trailer, it has alot of light and dark areas with alot of shades of gray moving around.
So two days ago the video was unwatchable, and now it looks fine. I wish I knew what was going on. I'm off to work now, tonight I will investigate further, play with some settings etc.
I downloaded the jay z kanye video using tubemate and it still showed blocking when watched in dark room.
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How can you tell if your phone does this? Can someone explain to me what it looks like
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So I have uploaded two video's to YouTube.
I have recorded both of these videos on the LTEEvo with the 1080 settings turned on.
When uploaded, it seems to only be uploading at max 480p.
This last video I uploaded of me testing out the LTEEvo Slow Motion Camera Option (Which is freaking bad ass) only uploaded at 360p.
Any idea how to fix this / set it to upload at 1080p?
If you want to see the slow motion video:
http://youtu.be/57-TclhU9Ts
I look like a bad ass walking away from the camera, but then I ruined it by hopping around like a little hoe.
The lighting is a bit bad. I just had a single window in the kitchen and I had no lights on.
I was just seeing if it actually worked.. I am very impressed with it.
Psywar28 said:
So I have uploaded two video's to YouTube.
I have recorded both of these videos on the LTEEvo with the 1080 settings turned on.
When uploaded, it seems to only be uploading at max 480p.
This last video I uploaded of me testing out the LTEEvo Slow Motion Camera Option (Which is freaking bad ass) only uploaded at 360p.
Any idea how to fix this / set it to upload at 1080p?
If you want to see the slow motion video:
http://youtu.be/57-TclhU9Ts
I look like a bad ass walking away from the camera, but then I ruined it by hopping around like a little hoe.
The lighting is a bit bad. I just had a single window in the kitchen and I had no lights on.
I was just seeing if it actually worked.. I am very impressed with it.
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I don't think the YouTube apps let's you upload HD videos, you need to use your PC for that
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Slow motion does not record in HD regardless of what you set it at.
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Slow motion does not record in HD regardless of what you set it at.
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Yeah, I realized that after I thought about the actual process I had to go through to make "fake" slow motion.
You can tell by watching the video that the quality is degraded a bit by adding so many more frames/p sec.
Oh well, the option and the result is still pretty damn sick.
Awesome, with that look on your face then a shirt that says pillage naked... Nice vid man I felt like the haduken was coming right at me too... I am surprised the slow mo is so fluid.
When I flip my camera to slow motion, the resolution takes a huge hit. I'm not talking about the 720p that Samsung claims it records in. As soon as I press the record button, the resolution drops to totally unacceptable levels (honestly looks like 360p). The resulting video is absolute garbage. Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is this how it's supposed to look? I'm afraid it's the latter, because my wife's S6 looks the same when recording in slow motion.
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When I flip my camera to slow motion, the resolution takes a huge hit. I'm not talking about the 720p that Samsung claims it records in. As soon as I press the record button, the resolution drops to totally unacceptable levels (honestly looks like 360p). The resulting video is absolute garbage. Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is this how it's supposed to look? I'm afraid it's the latter, because my wife's S6 looks the same when recording in slow motion.
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Slow motion video quality is garbage. It looks bad on mine too, looks like the ones recorded by the GS4 with 2 years old technology.
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Slow motion video quality is garbage. It looks bad on mine too, looks like the ones recorded by the GS4 with 2 years old technology.
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That just boggles my mind. The slow motion on my first generation Moto X from 2013 honestly looks better than what I'm getting on the S6 Edge. That's crazy. God, I hope Samsung is working on this (for the incredibly rare and almost non-existent times that I use it).
Yes, slow motion is beyond horrible. It's like 240 or 360p upscaled. Really awful.
any fix available?
is there any fix available for the bad quality?
samsung can't fix it
The truth is that samsung is not able to improve slow motion quality on galaxy s6.
Either the chip is too weak or Samsung developers are too bad!
Why put such a feature though it's useless?
That's a shame!
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When I flip my camera to slow motion, the resolution takes a huge hit. I'm not talking about the 720p that Samsung claims it records in. As soon as I press the record button, the resolution drops to totally unacceptable levels (honestly looks like 360p). The resulting video is absolute garbage. Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is this how it's supposed to look? I'm afraid it's the latter, because my wife's S6 looks the same when recording in slow motion.
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Anibaaal said:
Slow motion video quality is garbage. It looks bad on mine too, looks like the ones recorded by the GS4 with 2 years old technology.
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That just boggles my mind. The slow motion on my first generation Moto X from 2013 honestly looks better than what I'm getting on the S6 Edge. That's crazy. God, I hope Samsung is working on this (for the incredibly rare and almost non-existent times that I use it).
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Yes, slow motion is beyond horrible. It's like 240 or 360p upscaled. Really awful.
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komanguy said:
The truth is that samsung is not able to improve slow motion quality on galaxy s6.
Either the chip is too weak or Samsung developers are too bad!
Why put such a feature though it's useless?
That's a shame!
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guys!! i freaked out like all of you too but then i found out the reason for "poor" "upscaled" (and whatever you say!) slow mo quality..
by default when u record a slow mo and play it.. it plays at 1/8 speed... thats why u see such poor quality...
Now here's the solution:
1. Record ur slow mo
2. Open the video
3. Hold and press down the highlighted slow mo part i.e between the sliders.. you will see a pop up which shows a rectangular trim box and 1/8.
4. Select 1/8 and you will see 1/2,1/4 and 1/8 options..
5. Now select 1/4 and play the video
Tadaaaa!! now you have epic slow mo video!!
i have samples but i have poor internet speed so if you guys want i can upload it on youtube but it will take some time..
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guys!! i freaked out like all of you too but then i found out the reason for "poor" "upscaled" (and whatever you say!) slow mo quality..
by default when u record a slow mo and play it.. it plays at 1/8 speed... thats why u see such poor quality...
Now here's the solution:
1. Record ur slow mo
2. Open the video
3. Hold and press down the highlighted slow mo part i.e between the sliders.. you will see a pop up which shows a rectangular trim box and 1/8.
4. Select 1/8 and you will see 1/2,1/4 and 1/8 options..
5. Now select 1/4 and play the video
Tadaaaa!! now you have epic slow mo video!!
i have samples but i have poor internet speed so if you guys want i can upload it on youtube but it will take some time..
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Thank you.
But we speak of image quality instead.
the sgs6 (nor the note 5) can't record slow motion with good image (frame) quality. That's a shame. iphone 5s does it absolutely better.
New too since android 7.0
komanguy said:
The truth is that samsung is not able to improve slow motion quality on galaxy s6.
Either the chip is too weak or Samsung developers are too bad!
Why put such a feature though it's useless?
That's a shame!
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Hi,
1st off I love this phone. I am extremely pleased and have zero complaints so far. Buttery smooth too....
My Question is how is it possible that the screen resolution is adjustable? Does the display turn off pixels? Does it merge pixels? Please enlighten me..
Thanks,
Joel
I'm pretty sure it must be 'rooted' first to allow those changes.
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I'm pretty sure it must be 'rooted' first to allow those changes.
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Sorry even though u r pretty sure. This info is wrong. U DON'T need root. Just like samsung graxe ui. On LG V30 u go to display - screen resolution and switch between 720,1080 or qhd+.
But the OP never asked if changing resolution was possible. He most know that we can already change res in the setting. What he is asking is HOW does lowering resolution works.
Im not sure about this but from tv or any pc monitor u can upscale to max reolution of the monitor or downscale to a lower resolution. The pixel are still on but the screen is not push very hard.
Amoled are very power effecient and this has been discuss in the S8 forum for quite sometimes. After all the testing the xda members have been doing it seems that going from QHD down to 1080(full hd +). Doesnt save that much battery (around 5% better battery)
Actually I'm wondering because on a 1080p TV, when you feed it a 720p video, the TV stays 1080p. The video is just enlarged to fit the 1080p display. On the V30 I'm under the impression that the display will actually change. Kinda like having a 3 displays in 1...
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Actually I'm wondering because on a 1080p TV, when you feed it a 720p video, the TV stays 1080p. The video is just enlarged to fit the 1080p display. On the V30 I'm under the impression that the display will actually change. Kinda like having a 3 displays in 1...
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U wont see a smaller screen. The screen will stretch out edge to edge but it will look very blurry if u do 720p. Not so much in 1080p mode. So u can say that the software upcales lower resolution. Just like riptide 2 which u can lower or max res in the setting of the game.
Wait, so the software downscales? You sure? Just Android or all apps too? I don't think so. How could software down scaling effect battery life?
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Wait, so the software downscales? You sure? Just Android or all apps too? I don't think so. How could software down scaling effect battery life?
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The screen is cap at 60 hz. Let say u are playing a game ( this goes with the ui smoothness aswell). Since the screen is cap at 60hz means that the fps is up to 60fps max/cap At 1080p is you play a game that can reach 80fps(cause is not pushing QHD pixel) the cpu/gpu doesnt have to work has hard. So instead of doing 80fps it only have to do 60fps meaning that cpu/gpu doesnt have to work 100% since is able to maintain easily the frame per second require from the 60hz screen.
This is why the new RAZER phone with 120hz screen can do 120fps.
Now if u increase the screen to qhd (1440p+). The same game with higher resolution the frame rate will be much lower. Now. The game probably is reaching 55fps instead of 80fps max (is an example). The screen is 60hz (60fps). So the cpu/gpu is gonna be working 100%. Much harder cause is trying to reach 60fps but it cant. Which equals more power comsuption, hotter device and also cpu/gpu throlling cause of the heat.