Android Pie & Encryption - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
I currently have an Honor 8 with Android 8.0, in I have some issues with encryption.
You may know that Huawei phones does not respect completely the Android expectations in terms of encryption, which lead that some application like Intune (Microsoft) sees the phone as "not encrypt", and reject the creation of professional profile.
This features was OK for me on Android 7.x, but not anymore on Android 8.0. It also seems to impact Mate 10, P20, Honor 9, 10...
As I plan to buy a Mate 10 pro (hope good offers for Black Friday...), I wanted to know if those who have tested the beta of Android 9 on this phone can check the security parameters, and see if the encryption option is available or not, and if some of you succeedeed to enrol within Intune.
Hope my question is clear enough.
Thanks for your feedback

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Disabling GNSS duty cycle

Hi, I need to turn of the duty cycling of the GNSS (GPS) chip on my mate 20 pro. I was under the impression that it should be an option in the developer settings in Android Pie, as it is in other phones, but there is no such option for Mate 20 Pro.
Does anyone know why and better yet how to solve it? I must turn off the duty cycling for my research project. Thanks!
hey do you find the way to turn off?
fh2018 said:
Hi, I need to turn of the duty cycling of the GNSS (GPS) chip on my mate 20 pro. I was under the impression that it should be an option in the developer settings in Android Pie, as it is in other phones, but there is no such option for Mate 20 Pro.
Does anyone know why and better yet how to solve it? I must turn off the duty cycling for my research project. Thanks!
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hey do you find the way to turn off the duty cycle on mate 20 pro? i cant find the option in the developer option either. but i can find the option in S10 .
Huawei P30 Pro EMUI 9.1
Hello did you find a solution to your problem? I am an owner of the Huawei P30 Pro with the latest release of EMUI 9.1. I can’t find how to disable the duty circle on GNSS raw data measurement (there is no option under the android developer settings on my Huawei Device). In some smartphones duty circle can automatically disabled when you call android GNSS raw data API. Does the Huawei supports this feature or we can not disable duty circle on Huawei smartphones at all? Thanking you in advance.
ikarolos said:
Hello did you find a solution to your problem? I am an owner of the Huawei P30 Pro with the latest release of EMUI 9.1. I can’t find how to disable the duty circle on GNSS raw data measurement (there is no option under the android developer settings on my Huawei Device). In some smartphones duty circle can automatically disabled when you call android GNSS raw data API. Does the Huawei supports this feature or we can not disable duty circle on Huawei smartphones at all? Thanking you in advance.
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hello I communicated with the engineer of huawei only to know the EMUI doesnt support disabling the duty cycle. Are you trying to use the carrier-phase for RTK or PPP ?
Duty Cycle
Yes I am trying to develop an app using the kernel of the RTKLIB open source library for PPP and RTK purposes. I have already tested this with XIAOMI MI8. I am also interesting in buying the new Xiaomi Mi 9 with Qualcomm 855 in build gps chip. Did you ever test the Xiaomi Mi phones? I also have already test the mate 20 pro for dual frequency carrier phase measurement. In order to implement the L5 frequency on this model, you have to update to EMUI 9.1. But this issue with duty cycle is critical so I can not support this model also with the P30 Pro.
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Yes I am trying to develop an app using the kernel of the RTKLIB open source library for PPP and RTK purposes. I have already tested this with XIAOMI MI8. I am also interesting in buying the new Xiaomi Mi 9 with Qualcomm 855 in build gps chip. Did you ever test the Xiaomi Mi phones? I also have already test the mate 20 pro for dual frequency carrier phase measurement. In order to implement the L5 frequency on this model, you have to update to EMUI 9.1. But this issue with duty cycle is critical so I can not support this model also with the P30 Pro.
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hello. Thanks for reply. I wonder how you turn off duty cycle of mate 20 pro? My mate 20 pro has already been updated to EMUI 9.1 But I still cant find the option:"Force full GNSS measurement" .
I dont have access to XiaoMi 8. Would you please send me a Rinex file made by xiaomi 8 ? Thank you.
Xiaomi Mi 8 Rinex File
Yes for sure. Here is a link with a Rinex File from Xiaomi Mi 8 that i have recorded today with Rinex On App.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14v-Li2Ip-d9-z3iJ-Bj_tu2tZdVI7LXm/view?usp=drivesdk
Hello,
I know, it's an old post !
Finally, is there a way to avoid duty cycling on P30 and othe huawai phones ?

Honor 8X Gallery without Discover tab

Just found out my new honor 8x' gallery app do not have Discover tab, just photo & album. Seems like other huawei or honor phone have it? Any clue? EMUI 8.2.
Same here: I have never seen on my phone.
Inviato dal mio Honor 8x utilizzando Tapatalk
Finding
Seems that this is common among honor 8x user.
I did search on Chinese huawei forum, below are the finding:
1. Some say it have discover feature, just need time to generate the discover photo, with some criteria, including with huawei ID, sync to cloud, turn on geotag.
This mean some user actually get Discover features.
2. There is one post suggest to re-login huawei ID, reboot the phone, clear data & cache of gallery.
There is no clue the person who post this had solved this issue or just general suggestion.
3. One interesting post mention currently this feature open to some models only.
I have no idea how this guy have this information and maybe he mean some of the honor 8x models (honor 8x have few different models name) only have it. Hopefully this feature could roll out to all honor 8x in the future.

Enable unofficial ASHA Hearing Aids support to android 10 devices

Hi,
I'm looking a way to enable AHSA protocol to device that are on official Android 10 with official updates from manufacturer
Last year Google has annouced Android 10 will support Hearing Aids with ASHA Protocol, specification are open, but i think integration to Android 10 phone is not mandatory
I have a Oneplus 5 and recently Android 10 has been released out to this device by OnePlus
Sadly, i can't stream music directly to my hearing aids.
As far i know Pixel 3 and Samsung devices are compatible, i've tested with a Samsung S10e and this is working great.
Google provide a technical specification for ASHA Protocol, i dont know if this for dev or something ? https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth/asha
So what i've found so far when playing around with my OnePlus 5 :
- I've decompilled the bluetooth apk from my OnePlus 5 phone and there some files related to hearing aids in the bluetooth apk bluetooth.app/sources/com/android/bluetooth/hearingaid
- Found a file text in /System/etc/bluetooth/
in bt_profile.conf at the end of the file
Code:
#Hearing Aid profile and its configurable features
# hearing_aid_support with default value false
[HEARING_AID]
[B]hearing_aid_support = false[/B]
I've rooted my device with Magisk and i've tried to change to "true" and reboot but changes are reverted back maybe because /system is read-only ?
i want to know if someone can dump the file from a pixel 3 or a Samsung S10/S20 device and share here ?
@johnstinks
Only to have mentioned it:
Android's hearing-aid setting is stored in Android's settings.db under System: It's either 0 or 1.
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...e/+/master/core/res/res/values/config.xml#131
Try setting this to true using an overlay?
sorry .., i've no idea how to do, i've never compiled a rom or anthing
my message is a bottle sent to the sea, sharing idea to enable / force the support for hearing aids for phones on Android 10.
I would also be interested in a way to activate this in custom roms. I'm waiting until it's more widely available before I get my next phone
Bumping up this thread. My dad just received his new hearing aid, and initially the audiologist told us direct streaming is only supported on iPhone, but upon closer checking, I found that selected Android phone models are also supported. Sadly, his Huawei P30 Pro is not on the list.
I tried pairing his hearing aids with my sister's Samsung S10 and it worked like a charm, it even has the hearing aid icon beside the bluetooth device. Although the P30 Pro supports Bluetooth 5 and has Android 10, it doesn't recognise the hearing aid.
Hoping that some experts here can share if it's as simple as rooting and enabling the setting, or is there something in the bluetooth APK that needs rework in order for the hearing aid function to work?
Hello,
I need this feature really, too.
Does someone got a way to enable it on a rooted smartphone?
Best regards
bump !
any idea, maybe with magisk module we can enable the feature ?
Best Regards.
Trying to find the solution for my son with his Xiaomi Black Shark 3, anyway so far I didnt find any ASHA solution, so I am going to check Phonak hearing aid which should support BT connection via A2DP and HFP, so it could be temoporary workaround without ASHA support on phone (seems to just on few Samsung and Google models at the moment). Anyway ASHA is final solution of course, all advices would be really appriciated.
On my OnePlus 5 i tried a custom rom called "ArrowOS" this rom does have a experimental flag "settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid" i enabled this flag and i have hearing aids support !
Now i have to found what actually does this flag when i enable it. ( what file is modified)
here some link from the android source code where the flag is found:
if we understand how to enable the feature we can maybe create a magisk module that enable ASHA for any phone on Android 10-11
https://android.googlesource.com/pl.../core/java/android/util/FeatureFlagUtils.java
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...c/com/android/settings/core/FeatureFlags.java
johnstinks said:
On my OnePlus 5 i tried a custom rom called "ArrowOS" this rom does have a experimental flag "settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid" i enabled this flag and i have hearing aids support !
Now i have to found what actually does this flag when i enable it. ( what file is modified)
here some link from the android source code where the flag is found:
if we understand how to enable the feature we can maybe create a magisk module that enable ASHA for any phone on Android 10-11
https://android.googlesource.com/pl.../core/java/android/util/FeatureFlagUtils.java
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...c/com/android/settings/core/FeatureFlags.java
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Hi I just came across this post as I also want to enable ASHA on an 5t. Does it still work for you with ArrowOS?
know how to enable this feature???
I'm adding my name to the list of folks that want to do this as well (I have an Umidigi A9, but it sounds like the same basic issue applies).
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if we understand how to enable the feature we can maybe create a magisk module that enable ASHA for any phone on Android 10-11
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This would be really great.
Following. Thix is really interesting
As ASHA is mainly enabled on the software side (given your hardware matches the requirements), does this mean that custom ROMs on Android >= 10 supports hearing aids streaming ?
As soon as I received my Widex Moment headset, I have been using a hearing aid since I was a child, I feel very sad living in a world where technology was for everyone, adding walls for the sake of money, back to top, I also use the Redmi Note 9 Pro which uses Android 10 and BLE but doesn't pair, I tried a lot of things. Why should I have to buy a new phone instead of fixing it, 2 years have passed and they have not fix it or update about this. I have spoken with Widex & Xiaomi support, the 1st one told me that will add more mobile devices to his list, the 2nd one seems not to be so interested since he does not reply to my email. Once again I feel so bad, I hope someone will can give a solution to that.
I will try Service and Feedback from my phone also
johnstinks said:
On my OnePlus 5 i tried a custom rom called "ArrowOS" this rom does have a experimental flag "settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid" i enabled this flag and i have hearing aids support !
Now i have to found what actually does this flag when i enable it. ( what file is modified)
here some link from the android source code where the flag is found:
if we understand how to enable the feature we can maybe create a magisk module that enable ASHA for any phone on Android 10-11
https://android.googlesource.com/pl.../core/java/android/util/FeatureFlagUtils.java
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...c/com/android/settings/core/FeatureFlags.java
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Below adb command enabled the hearing aid option in my rooted realme x running on Android 11 device but could not stream audio to hearing.
adb shell settings put global settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid true
Alpha78 said:
Bumping up this thread. My dad just received his new hearing aid, and initially the audiologist told us direct streaming is only supported on iPhone, but upon closer checking, I found that selected Android phone models are also supported. Sadly, his Huawei P30 Pro is not on the list.
I tried pairing his hearing aids with my sister's Samsung S10 and it worked like a charm, it even has the hearing aid icon beside the bluetooth device. Although the P30 Pro supports Bluetooth 5 and has Android 10, it doesn't recognise the hearing aid.
Hoping that some experts here can share if it's as simple as rooting and enabling the setting, or is there something in the bluetooth APK that needs rework in order for the hearing aid function to work?
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In the same boat here, with same phone. I am about to get cochlear implant activated.
The problem with P30Pro afaik is that Huawei have disabled unlocking of our phones meaning we will never get custom roms or install 'hacks' which is pretty ****.
One would think after all these years of ASHA protocol spec being available it would be implemented more, but no. Outside Pixel, Samsung and Apple its pretty dead in the water and I don't know why since it appears to be just editing one or two lines of code to activate it.
At this stage we can only petition to Huawei to enable this feature.
johnstinks said:
bump !
any idea, maybe with magisk module we can enable the feature ?
Best Regards.
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jokergermany said:
This would be really great.
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hi,
some news for the OnePlus5T and the ASHA ?
Please, if you can help me for my hearing aid.
My phone is Root, (twrp and Magisk )

Is EMUI 12 for global devices actually HarmonyOS lite or Android 11?

Here is someone who thinks he has proven that EMUI 12 is actually a lite version of HarmonyOS:
So this guy has taken an app called "oh_info" (which I tried to find but never did), that is supposedly used to check the OpenHarmony version (this is the open source version of HarmonyOS). He says that he managed to transfer this app to Nova 9 (which till now some Android info apps such as Geekbench state that it has Android 11 underneath). Now, according to what he says, if this "oh_info" app shows something on Nova 9, then the phone is running Harmony OS. If it doesn't, then Nova 9 is on Android (10, or 11, or whatever).
So before everything else, he also managed to transfer this app to Nova 8i (which we all know has Android 10). On Nova 8i the "oh_info" app showed nothing, meaning that Nova 8i is not running on HarmonyOS but on Android (10). When running this "oh_info" app on Nova 9 it showed Nova 9's EMUI 12 is based in OpenHarmony 2.1.0
He concludes that EMUI 12 that will be pushed to all Global devices will thus be HarmonyOS. But not the same version that is running on Chinese devices. More likely a lighter version.
Wait really? dang that's good news, still waiting for 2022 to get the update on my Y9 Prime. I'll also gonna check if the output of oh_info is the same as on Nova 9
Yxles said:
Wait really? dang that's good news, still waiting for 2022 to get the update on my Y9 Prime. I'll also gonna check if the output of oh_info is the same as on Nova 9
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So you also have this app called "oh_info" ? Where can we find it ?
Here https://www.coolapk.com/apk/com.yricky.oh_info
I found it when I was scouring about HarmonyOS information on BIliBili
Yxles said:
Here https://www.coolapk.com/apk/com.yricky.oh_info
I found it when I was scouring about HarmonyOS information on BIliBili
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Thanks
Ok, I might be wrong in this but isn't the Nova 9 release in China with HarmonyOS? For me, they might just hastily slapped EMUI 12 on Nova 9 without changing the software underneath which is understandable since there's only a slight difference with the experience in HarmonyOS and Android and settings are not stating what android ver the phone is running on but when Nova 8 was released, it had EMUI 12 on Android both on Global and China and just got an update to HarmonyOS. My theory is that devices that will receive EMUI 12 will still have Android just like Nova 8 but I hope it's running HarmonyOS/OpenHarmony
Yxles said:
Here https://www.coolapk.com/apk/com.yricky.oh_info
I found it when I was scouring about HarmonyOS information on BIliBili
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Strangely the link does not seem to work anymore.
LostEchoes said:
Как ни странно ссылка больше не работает.
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Can you add at on google disk or something? I also want to check, please
LostEchoes said:
Вот кто-то, кто думает, что доказал, что EMUI 12 на самом деле является облегченной версией HarmonyOS :
Итак, этот парень взял приложение под названием «oh_info » (которое я пытался найти, но не нашел), которое предположительно используется для проверки версии OpenHarmony (это версия HarmonyOS с открытым исходным кодом). Он говорит, что ему удалось перенести это приложение на Nova 9 (где до сих пор некоторые информационные приложения для Android, такие как Geekbench, утверждали, что под ним находится Android 11 ). Теперь, согласно его словам, если это приложение «oh_info» что-то показывает на Nova 9, значит, телефон работает под управлением Harmony OS. Если это не так, значит, Nova 9 работает на Android (10, 11 или что-то еще).
Прежде всего ему удалось перенести это приложение на Nova 8i (которая, как мы все знаем, имеет Android 10 ). На Nova 8i приложение «oh_info» ничего не показало , что означает, что Nova 8i работает не на HarmonyOS, а на Android (10). При запуске этого приложения "oh_info" на Nova 9 он показал, что EMUI 12 Nova 9 основан на OpenHarmony 2.1.0.
Он заключает, что EMUI 12, который будет распространяться на все глобальные устройства, будет, таким образом, HarmonyOS. Но не та версия, которая работает на китайских устройствах. Скорее более легкая версия.
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I was able to find and download this application, it simply does not work, it simply does not work on Harmony OS or EMUI devices
Nikles_324 said:
I was able to find and download this application, it simply does not work, it simply does not work on Harmony OS or EMUI devices
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I had downloaded the file when Yxles's link was working and I uploaded it here.
If it's the same you found, then that guy at the video is b*llshitting us... ?! Or maybe he has a different file / app ?
LostEchoes said:
I had downloaded the file when Yxles's link was working and I uploaded it here.
If it's the same you found, then that guy at the video is b*llshitting us... ?! Or maybe he has a different file / app ?
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That could be the case, if you guys can contact that guy then its better to ask them if they can share the file
Guys it seems that we have an official confirmation that EMUI 12 on Nova 9 is based on Android 11 (AOSP) and NOT on Harmony OS ! So the UI is inspired by Harmony OS, but the actual OS is Android 11. Here is the post on the official Huawei Forums by an employee that works on the Content Crew / Article Team of the forums.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
consumer.huawei.com
...unlike the EMUI 12 version on HUAWEI nova 8 based on Android 10, HUAWEI nova 9 came with a refreshed EMUI 12 based on the AOSP Android 11 system.
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Someone could think that this probably means that the Global devices that now have Android 10-based EMUI 11.x, and have only gotten one major Android update, will get Android 11-based EMUI 12. I still don't know what will happen with older devices that now still have EMUI 10.x or EMUI 11.x and have already gotten two major Android upgrades (meaning that they were released with Android 8 and have already gotten Android 9 and Android 10).
LostEchoes said:
Guys it seems that we have an official confirmation that EMUI 12 on Nova 9 is based on Android 11 (AOSP) and NOT on Harmony OS ! So the UI is inspired by Harmony OS, but the actual OS is Android 11. Here is the post on the official Huawei Forums by an employee that works on the Content Crew / Article Team of the forums.
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I'm glad that they will use Android 11 since Nova 8 had Android 10 and I dont want MIUI thing to happen here where the UI is the latest but the OS underneath (Android) is not but I hope that they launch HarmonyOS next release
Yxles said:
I'm glad that they will use Android 11 since Nova 8 had Android 10 and I dont want MIUI thing to happen here where the UI is the latest but the OS underneath (Android) is not but I hope that they launch HarmonyOS next release
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Actually the inconsistency that you mentioned will still exist with EMUI 12, as it will be with Android 11.
Regarding the OS, for now I prefer Android 11 at least until HarmonyOS is mature enough. Even then, I might be willing to try HarmonyOS (in the fututre) only as long as it will work fine with GMS (on phones such as P30 that were released with them) and Play store apps.
LostEchoes said:
Actually the inconsistency that you mentioned will still exist with EMUI 12, as it will be with Android 11.
Regarding the OS, for now I prefer Android 11 at least until HarmonyOS is mature enough. Even then, I might be willing to try HarmonyOS (in the fututre) only as long as it will work fine with GMS (on phones such as P30 that were released with them) and Play store apps.
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Yeah the inconsistency on numbers still there but what I meant is with the multiple android version on one release of UI and good news, many videos on yt and according to many users whose are on HarmonyOS said GAPPS works perfectly fine
Yxles said:
Yeah the inconsistency on numbers still there but what I meant is with the multiple android version on one release of UI and good news, many videos on yt and according to many users whose are on HarmonyOS said GAPPS works perfectly fine
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Yeah that's good news, indeed. I just hope they won't be blocked in the future.
LostEchoes said:
I had downloaded the file when Yxles's link was working and I uploaded it here.
If it's the same you found, then that guy at the video is b*llshitting us... ?! Or maybe he has a different file / app ?
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Hey guys, I am author of this video. I am not bullshitting anyone. In the worst scenario I am just wrong, but my intention never was to lie or trick anybody. I just checked it and everything suggested that global emui 12 is based on harmonyos + android 11 code. oh_info app that I had was showing the openharmony version on matepad 11 and nova 9. And it was crashing on my p40 pro with emui 11 and showing no openharmony on the nova 8i with emui 11. I interpreted this as emui 12 has to contain openharmony code so it is basically harmonyos but with cut some features (for no reason). I has been called a liar few times, so I came here to discuss it cause I never wanted to lie to anybody (
Gerwant said:
Hey guys, I am author of this video. I am not bullshitting anyone. In the worst scenario I am just wrong, but my intention never was to lie or trick anybody. I just checked it and everything suggested that global emui 12 is based on harmonyos + android 11 code. oh_info app that I had was showing the openharmony version on matepad 11 and nova 9. And it was crashing on my p40 pro with emui 11 and showing no openharmony on the nova 8i with emui 11. I interpreted this as emui 12 has to contain openharmony code so it is basically harmonyos but with cut some features (for no reason). I has been called a liar few times, so I came here to discuss it cause I never wanted to lie to anybody (
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Can you send a copy of your oh_info app?
Gerwant said:
Hey guys, I am author of this video. I am not bullshitting anyone. In the worst scenario I am just wrong, but my intention never was to lie or trick anybody. I just checked it and everything suggested that global emui 12 is based on harmonyos + android 11 code. oh_info app that I had was showing the openharmony version on matepad 11 and nova 9. And it was crashing on my p40 pro with emui 11 and showing no openharmony on the nova 8i with emui 11. I interpreted this as emui 12 has to contain openharmony code so it is basically harmonyos but with cut some features (for no reason). I has been called a liar few times, so I came here to discuss it cause I never wanted to lie to anybody (
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So this is the first time that you admit that you might be wrong. Well that's better and more honest than your previous statements. Also, I've never called you a "liar". Someone else did, as it is shown on your youtube channel's comments.
We are all humans, we can be wrong sometimes. But some people have been trying to tell you that you might be wrong for some days now. Let's see some of your replies:
Jona V.
2 weeks ago
EMUI 12 is Android 11 based?
Petal News
2 weeks ago
Hey, isn't it explained in the video well enough? Emui 12 on nova 9 seems to be liter version of HarmonyOS
Zebedee Ejike Korie​1 day ago​@Petal News your indirectly pushing people watching to buy this phone knowing quite well that Harmony OS won’t make it globally, given people wrong hope, my question is for how long are you going to hold on this lie, because I fall into this and I know that many people fall into it, but will later decode you, in Germany all phone vendors are dismantling Huawei sections that they’re no longer getting any new phones from the company and your here playing with people’s brain like CNN. Please stop.
Petal News
1 day ago
Dont know what is your problem. I've never said people to buy it. I just found out that emui 12 contains OpenHarmony code and wanted to share it with you. Chillout
Really now ? "It IS HarmonyOS" is way different than "it CONTAINS some HarmonyOS code"
So to sum this up:
You have found some app somewhere that supposedly when it sees some let's say OpenHarmony code snippets it reports that the OS is OpenHarmony, or HarmonyOS, or whatever, that in turn you call it some kind of "lite version of HarmonyOS". A few days later on the official Huawei forums an employee of the Content Crew / Article Team has posted an article confirming that EMUI 12 for global phones is just a "taste" (design-wise) of Harmony OS but NOT really Harmony OS ! It's just the skin of the UI that looks like Harmony OS. But it's still based on Android 11, as all the respected and well known Tech sites are reporting (e.g. GSMArena, etc) and all Hardware Info apps report (see attached screenshot) on Nova 9.
A few people have told you that you MIGHT be wrong, right ? But you still keep the same misleading title on your video "HARMONYOS COMING GLOBAL? - EMUI 12 is HarmonyOS!" admitting later on the comments of you video that you do it for "clickbait" reasons.
Furthermore a few days later you have uploaded another video with the title: "EMUI 12 BETA - HARMONYOS IS COMING!"
Now, the file / app you found (that is supposedly reporting about OpenHarmony) might be what it is, I don't doubt that. It might be legit (but no one really knows it is, right?), meaning that it might really be able to report that it found OpenHarmony OS code snippets. But does that mean that the OS is HarmonyOS lite ? Obviously no ! So let me ask you something: Who are we supposed to trust? The official Huawei forums' crew, or some guy like you that you cannot even edit your videos' titles to reflect even some doubt on your claim that Nova 9 comes with Harmony OS ?
As I told you on your YouTube channel, you want viewers? You have to respect them and keep your integrity intact. And correct your mistakes when they are noted by your viewers. And if you don't change the titles of your videos to reflect the truth, then no one will respect you and take you seriously. Good luck with your choices.
LostEchoes said:
So this is the first time that you admit that you might be wrong. Well that's better and more honest than your previous statements. Also, I've never called you a "liar". Someone else did, as it is shown on your youtube channel's comments.
We are all humans, we can be wrong sometimes. But some people have been trying to tell you that you might be wrong for some days now. Let's see some of your replies:
Jona V.
2 weeks ago
EMUI 12 is Android 11 based?
Petal News
2 weeks ago
Hey, isn't it explained in the video well enough? Emui 12 on nova 9 seems to be liter version of HarmonyOS
Zebedee Ejike Korie​1 day ago​@Petal News your indirectly pushing people watching to buy this phone knowing quite well that Harmony OS won’t make it globally, given people wrong hope, my question is for how long are you going to hold on this lie, because I fall into this and I know that many people fall into it, but will later decode you, in Germany all phone vendors are dismantling Huawei sections that they’re no longer getting any new phones from the company and your here playing with people’s brain like CNN. Please stop.
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1 day ago
Dont know what is your problem. I've never said people to buy it. I just found out that emui 12 contains OpenHarmony code and wanted to share it with you. Chillout
Really now ? "It IS HarmonyOS" is way different than "it CONTAINS some HarmonyOS code"
So to sum this up:
You have found some app somewhere that supposedly when it sees some let's say OpenHarmony code snippets it reports that the OS is OpenHarmony, or HarmonyOS, or whatever, that in turn you call it some kind of "lite version of HarmonyOS". A few days later on the official Huawei forums an employee of the Content Crew / Article Team has posted an article confirming that EMUI 12 for global phones is just a "taste" (design-wise) of Harmony OS but NOT really Harmony OS ! It's just the skin of the UI that looks like Harmony OS. But it's still based on Android 11, as all the respected and well known Tech sites are reporting (e.g. GSMArena, etc) and all Hardware Info apps report (see attached screenshot) on Nova 9.
A few people have told you that you MIGHT be wrong, right ? But you still keep the same misleading title on your video "HARMONYOS COMING GLOBAL? - EMUI 12 is HarmonyOS!" admitting later on the comments of you video that you do it for "clickbait" reasons.
Furthermore a few days later you have uploaded another video with the title: "EMUI 12 BETA - HARMONYOS IS COMING!"
Now, the file / app you found (that is supposedly reporting about OpenHarmony) might be what it is, I don't doubt that. It might be legit (but no one really knows it is, right?), meaning that it might really be able to report that it found OpenHarmony OS code snippets. But does that mean that the OS is HarmonyOS lite ? Obviously no ! So let me ask you something: Who are we supposed to trust? The official Huawei forums' crew, or some guy like you that you cannot even edit your videos' titles to reflect even some doubt on your claim that Nova 9 comes with Harmony OS ?
As I told you on your YouTube channel, you want viewers? You have to respect them and keep your integrity intact. And correct your mistakes when they are noted by your viewers. And if you don't change the titles of your videos to reflect the truth, then no one will respect you and take you seriously. Good luck with your choices.
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Actually, maybe I forgot to state in the video that emui 12 contains android code, but it seemed obvious for me cause HarmonyOS also contains. So if something is HarmonyOS then it means it is still based on android anyway.
HarmonyOS is OpenHarmony + AOSP 10/9. Emui 12 seems to also be an OpenHarmony + AOSP 11 (maybe 10 too). For me it is obvious step in introducing the HarmonyOS but in lighter version.
I Say I of course can be wrong, cause I Don't know everything, I Have some proofs and have my own interpreration. It is hard for me to believe different Huawei statement cause their every statement is different and often opposite of the other. One of Huawei workers told me that HarmonyOS coming from next year, then I found out that emui 12 that is coming contains OpenHarmony. For me it is HarmonyOS, but for some reasons Huawei dont Say it clearly, maybe after HarmonyOS 3.0 release, maybe it will be ready enough

Will updating an Honor 9 keep Google apps?

I have a friend with a Huawei Honor 9 DV (model number STF-L09) which I believe is an official UK model and it's currently running on Android 8 as they are concerned if they upgrade, they may lose the Google apps. I've been trying to search for a definite answer on this but there's so many Huawei devices sold in different regional versions as well I can't get a clearcut answer on it. My understand is if the device came with Google apps it will keep them and the devices without Google apps were shipped that way, is that correct?
Yes.
I had a honor 9 last year running Android 9 and Google play store was fully functional and all apps installable.
I'm running STF-L09 with Android 9 and Google apps with no problem.

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