I upgraded successfully to pie, but was getting bootloops after debloating (using same app list i use in oreo), i use titanium backup to freeze or Uninstall apps.
The bootloop was caused when Uninstalling the AVG protection app, so instead this app should be freezed if not needed.
Maybe this info help someone else doing a XZ1 debloating.
u must non-active All the Device admin, then u can start debloat with Titanium backup....
do that step when u want experiment with PIE system
i was not know this method before, i found this method when frustate why my device Bootloop 3 times every uninstall stock App... :laugh:
I got the same problem using titanuim and debloathed by simply search and delete the files using root explorer
snake218 said:
I upgraded successfully to pie, but was getting bootloops after debloating (using same app list i use in oreo), i use titanium backup to freeze or Uninstall apps.
The bootloop was caused when Uninstalling the AVG protection app, so instead this app should be freezed if not needed.
Maybe this info help someone else doing a XZ1 debloating.
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I was debloating as well when my device decided to bootloop. What's funny is that I'd done this countless times on Oreo and never got a single bootloop. Apparently some of the apps are closely attached to the system core, that's my guess.
dcrin3 said:
I was debloating as well when my device decided to bootloop. What's funny is that I'd done this countless times on Oreo and never got a single bootloop. Apparently some of the apps are closely attached to the system core, that's my guess.
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I don't think so ´cause if I debloat manually by deleting the files in file system it works like a charm.....but it´s of course a very timeconsuming way to do it.
I think there are some other system change with makes inconistencies in the system when titanium backup (and other) programs are used for debloat.
But of course, I have not debloated very "hard", just facebook, amazon, antivirus and some other small stuff.
Basically "debloat" means removal of app; since every ota will bring and active back removals, you should instead freeze annoying apps: Titanium or 3Ctools works fine with latest Magisk 17.3 on XZ1.
I have all these disabled without any hiccups/bootloop (including AVG):
Code:
G8341:/ $ pm list packages -d
package:com.amazon.kindle
package:com.amazon.mShop.android.shopping
package:com.android.chrome
package:com.facebook.appmanager
package:com.facebook.katana
package:com.facebook.services
package:com.facebook.system
package:com.google.android.apps.docs
package:com.google.android.apps.photos
package:com.google.android.apps.tachyon
package:com.google.android.apps.work.oobconfig
package:com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
package:com.google.android.marvin.talkback
package:com.google.android.music
package:com.google.android.videos
package:com.google.android.youtube
package:com.s.antivirus
package:com.sony.tvsideview.videoph
package:com.sonyericsson.music
package:com.sonyericsson.startupflagservice
package:com.sonyericsson.xhs
package:com.sonymobile.deqp
package:com.sonymobile.email
package:com.sonymobile.getset
package:com.sonymobile.getset.priv
package:com.sonymobile.pip
package:com.sonymobile.susrescheck
package:com.sonymobile.usm
package:com.sonymobile.xperiaweather
package:com.spotify.music
For info, I've uploaded 2 app (light & oos) to check installed apk/statuses & trackers here https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/dexdump-xodus-trackers-apk-static-t3833391
(Also uploaded are magisk systemless modules https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/magiskoreo-screenrecorder-t3801150 ; they work fine on Pie exception to wip dimNightLight.)
To use systemwide audioFX on videos, you must use Sony (bloated) Album app : conversely to what said in today xdaNews/XZs, with the 2x speakers or bluetooth only, I have Eq ClearBass and ClearAudio+ working , so it looks to be a bug/hiccup for wired earphones option (?).
If you don't like classic nav, check xda LMT and thread here for full screen : https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/adbnoroot-hide-nav-status-bars-screen-t3780327
EDIT what really bothers me is Swiftkey : Adjust + HockeyApp + GoogleAnalytics
snake218 said:
I upgraded successfully to pie, but was getting bootloops after debloating (using same app list i use in oreo), i use titanium backup to freeze or Uninstall apps.
The bootloop was caused when Uninstalling the AVG protection app, so instead this app should be freezed if not needed.
Maybe this info help someone else doing a XZ1 debloating.
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oF2pks said:
Basically "debloat" means removal of app; since every ota will bring and active back removals, you should instead freeze annoying apps: Titanium or 3Ctools works fine with latest Magisk 17.3 on XZ1.
I have all these disabled without any hiccups/bootloop (including AVG):
Code:
G8341:/ $ pm list packages -d
package:com.amazon.kindle
package:com.amazon.mShop.android.shopping
package:com.android.chrome
package:com.facebook.appmanager
package:com.facebook.katana
package:com.facebook.services
package:com.facebook.system
package:com.google.android.apps.docs
package:com.google.android.apps.photos
package:com.google.android.apps.tachyon
package:com.google.android.apps.work.oobconfig
package:com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
package:com.google.android.marvin.talkback
package:com.google.android.music
package:com.google.android.videos
package:com.google.android.youtube
package:com.s.antivirus
package:com.sony.tvsideview.videoph
package:com.sonyericsson.music
package:com.sonyericsson.startupflagservice
package:com.sonyericsson.xhs
package:com.sonymobile.deqp
package:com.sonymobile.email
package:com.sonymobile.getset
package:com.sonymobile.getset.priv
package:com.sonymobile.pip
package:com.sonymobile.susrescheck
package:com.sonymobile.usm
package:com.sonymobile.xperiaweather
package:com.spotify.music
EDIT what really bothers me is Swiftkey : Adjust + HockeyApp + GoogleAnalytics
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Do you have your code somewhere on GitHub? Someone's asking for twrp for the xz1 compact in the dev section of xz1 forum.
I'd like to bounce ideas at you sometime later as well. @oF2pks
dcrin3 said:
Do you have your code somewhere on GitHub? Someone's asking for twrp for the xz1 compact in the dev section of xz1 forum.
I'd like to bounce ideas at you sometime later as well. @oF2pks
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That'd be me . TWRP is so wanted right now. Can't get magisk root without it
rsk_kelkar said:
That'd be me . TWRP is so wanted right now. Can't get magisk root without it
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Sideload is also an option too.
dcrin3 said:
Sideload is also an option too.
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Requires stock boot image. Don't know where to get that from.
that sound messy from a phone thats part of the android one project.
where are the Android One Oreo & Pie Firmwares to install?
santi1993 said:
that sound messy from a phone thats part of the android one project.
where are the Android One Oreo & Pie Firmwares to install?
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There's only one problem... It isn't part android one..
With latest 47.2.A.2.33-November Security Update and even the October one.
I've just found out that AVG Protection is the culprit that keeps breaking my phone when I forcibly remove it through titanium backup.
For now it's disabled but any attempts to delete it off the phone results in phone bootloop(at the sony logo). Every other junk app is been removed as always except for that one.
I'll dig around to see what I can find out about it's relationship to the OS.
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Using ES File explorer on root I was able to remove AVG antivirus without bootloop.
Related
Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
sbrownla said:
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
DV8 said:
I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
sbrownla said:
Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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I have tried Root Explorer and it allows me to read and write to the SD card. I have Root Call blocker and that works as well, I have tried Xposed Framework and so far no go, it does a reboot and you will lose root. This is still a work in progress but it looks a lot more promising than a couple of months ago.
I did not use any img files due to mine being a note edge and I think those files are for those who have taken the lollipop upgrade on their Note 4's. Since we have not received the lollipop upgrade to our edge's yet you should be good to at least temporary root because it is only working on KitKat.
I was able to temp root with king root 4.0.1 apk ... and was able to remove bloatware files from: system/app and: system/priv-app but after reboot they are all back.
Update.... after temp rooting. . Install Titanium Backup and Freeze system apps will enable you to "turn off" apps that you otherwise wouldn't be able to disable through the stock app manager in settings menu.
See screenshot below. ...
Screenshot
Screenshot of TouchWiz disabled because I use a different Home Launcher. And YES it keeps disabled through a reboot.
Was able to turn off The KNOX apps as well... seems to keep root longer without rebooting. HOWEVER root doesn't last forever.. meaning apps like Titanium Backup will lose root... and you will have to reboot and run King root again to get temp root to freeze more apps etc.
This is still a work in progress, hopefully the losing root problem will be fixed soon.
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
Mike02z said:
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
Keep at it guys! I'll join when I get some time tomorrow and Monday
justjayhere said:
If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
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Yup, this worked. All week I was trying to "remove" these applications via tibu but yesterday I just froze them. I still lost root but see everything I froze is still listed as "Turned off" in Application manager. That will do for now, Thanks!
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
NekoShinigami said:
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
justjayhere said:
I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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You need to long press on the app. Towards the end of the setting that popup you should see the convert to user app setting.
Easiest way I found was to freeze all the apps you don't want, filter for frozen apps then go through the list converting them to user apps
Edit: this doesn't work. They will install themselves back after doing this.
I figured they would come back.. freezing app is as good as it gets for now.
long press or swipe right to get to the additional options. also thank you guys for confirming that for me. i wasnt for sure since I dont have the retail version to test out on.
also i think i remember reading in the note 4 forum that they were able to get it perma deleted by uninstalling all updates then uninstalling the app or something along those lines. I will go back and read it again to be sure of what i read, i may have misread.
I used this method to disable knox and bloatware on my Verizon Edge even without root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
As far as temp root is concerned using King root, I suppose while on a rooted state, one can make changes to the system such as:
1) Enabling 3rd party apps like ES File Explorer to write to SD card by modifying platform.xml as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
2) Enabling hidden menu (if this is important to you) by modifying /efs/carrier/HiddenMenu file.
Even if you lose root, the changes you made to these files should stick, correct?
Going to try and keep this short, sweet, and to the point.
I modified and created a zip for personal use all the way back to my Nexus 5 days and through my N5X use. I like my ROMs extremely minimal. Removal of media files and applications that I didn't deem necessary to have. Even went as far and told the script to remove the stock launcher and replace it with Nova. This little guy worked wonders for me and saved me loads of time. My app drawer (on initial start up) only consisted of the essentials; phone, contacts, messaging, a file manager, and Google Play. Only leaving the rest to be downloaded as needed.
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Since ROMs aren't abundant yet, I'm deciding to share my zip to those who actually want to remove system apps and not settle on them just being disabled. Also, to keep from going into a file manager after every OTA/update removing each app individually.
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Had to modify this little guy to work on our phones.. It took me a bit to figure out (of course, right? Nothing is 'straight forward' with these phones )
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1.) I use this for personal use but did take some consideration in other users so majority of what I don't use is still there, this list would be a lot longer (and yes, some apps are for my older phones and didn't feel like removing them from the script).
2.) I will not remove an app from the removal script - if you don't like whats being removed, don't flash the zip.
3.) If I have forgot something that comes on the phone that CAN be downloaded from the Play Store (and can not be uninstalled), let me know. I'll add it to the script.
4.) If apps you are currently using are in the removal script, don't worry. The script makes them a user app instead of a system app (in my case it did anyway).
What's removed: :highfive:
*Clock (Google)
*Maps
*YouTube
*DownloadProviderUi
*HTMLViewer
*Calendar (Google)
*Drive (Google)
*OmaDmclient
*Photos (Google)
*Gallery2
*BasicDreams
*Calendar (Google)
*GoogleJapaneseInput
*Chrome
*CMFileManager
*Email
*Exchange2
*Galaxy4
*GooglePinyinIME
*Music2 (Google Music)
*NoiseField
*OpenWnn
*PhaseBeam
*Gmail
*Videos (Google Movies)
*KoreanIME
*OpenDelta
*Launcher3
What's added: :victory:
*Google stock bootanimation (black background with no text!)
*1 additional ringtone
*2 additional notifications
*4 additional alarm ringtones
Installation: :silly:
1. backup your ROM (there is no 'undo' button, so if you want whatever you want back, do a restore)
2. flash through TWRP (do not wipe cache/dalvik unless you want to get stuck on the Google logo - a hard power reset solves that problem anyways)
3. reboot
Download: :good:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620778129
Thanks to @mauam for the awesome bootanimation!
- A picture of the animation (called Pixel 2) and reference to his thread can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/alienware-t3721978
Again, you all are on XDA for a reason and know the risks of modifying your device in any sense. Since everyone else does this, I'll do it too:
I'm not responsible for your device.
For those that are having force closing issues on certain apps, enabling immersive mode within apps seems to fix the problem..
Things you need:
You need Android Terminal Emulator in the Play Store or cmd on Windows
i would prefer to do this from a PC so you can copy and paste the commands, but it can be done with any terminal emulator also.
Step 1: Connect your phone to your PC enable USB debugging mode
Step2: Open up cmd in Windows or the emulator on your phone and copy/paste or type:
- adb shell
itll give you a '$'
then copy and paste or type:
- settings put global policy_control immersive.full=apps,-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
should enable automatically.
so a debloat script and replacing boot ani with a black one? ill give it ago next time i redo my phone lol (i already debloated and have that boot ani)
but nice little addition, i personally love removing bloat my last debloat script i dubbed 'The Purge" lol
Sounds good to me and I hate bloat! thanks for the work!
Caution.,,
This breaks Fi app ... sort of.
the app wont run after zip. uninstall, reload from app store... still cant run app... app prompts to activate phone.. activate runs and app starts to work.
Same with "google" app (the default app that show when you swipe left from home screen.
Gmail too....
elliwigy said:
so a debloat script and replacing boot ani with a black one? ill give it ago next time i redo my phone lol (i already debloated and have that boot ani)
but nice little addition, i personally love removing bloat my last debloat script i dubbed 'The Purge" lol
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Yep, that's pretty much what it does! The Purge hahah nice name!!
galaxys said:
Sounds good to me and I hate bloat! thanks for the work!
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Absolutely.. Hope it works out for you.
imaverik said:
This breaks Fi app ... sort of.
the app wont run after zip. uninstall, reload from app store... still cant run app... app prompts to activate phone.. activate runs and app starts to work.
Same with "google" app (the default app that show when you swipe left from home screen.
Gmail too....
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I don't run the Google Fi app, nor did I even touch anything related to Fi..
My Google app works as intended, and I redownloaded gmail, and that works too.. Idk what could be the issue on your end..
elliwigy said:
so a debloat script and replacing boot ani with a black one? ill give it ago next time i redo my phone lol (i already debloated and have that boot ani)
but nice little addition, i personally love removing bloat my last debloat script i dubbed 'The Purge" lol
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I think I remember that script. Was that for the S5? ?
Badger50 said:
I think I remember that script. Was that for the S5? ?
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i believe so haha too lazy to look it up
Those this work with the January update? For some reason when I flash it my device becomes corrupted. I'm using twrp 3.2.1 if that helps
castano22 said:
Those this work with the January update? For some reason when I flash it my device becomes corrupted. I'm using twrp 3.2.1 if that helps
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Version/update doesn't matter..
Corrupted as in how?
I still use twrp 3.1.1. Beta 2
Corrupted as in it won't let me boot up into the OS. It's with other mods too
So far I've received an issue from a user on here (youll be able to read their issue on the last page) and i assume its user error due to me not having any issues at all..
My question is - has anyone else tried this script with complete success?? Given the 'thanks' i received, im assuming (again lol) that its working fine. In my experience on XDA, people only comment on whats wrong, and keep quiet when things are running as they should.. I'm now asking to voice your success just for reassurance for me
let me know guys, thanks! :good::fingers-crossed:
Just wanted to confirm that the debloat script works on the Feb update.. Just did it myself :highfive:
However, I did have a couple force closes on the Google app and Twitter (weird) -- after some testing, i got it working by enabling 'settings put global policy_control immersive.full=apps,-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox' again
After I enabled that again, everything functions fine. :good:
Maybe this is needed for some apps that force close after flashing this debloat script (if you like immersive mode in apps)..
I'll post instructions in the 2nd post on the first page
Hey, thanks for this! Any chance of an update to April release?
elliwigy said:
so a debloat script and replacing boot ani with a black one? ill give it ago next time i redo my phone lol (i already debloated and have that boot ani)
but nice little addition, i personally love removing bloat my last debloat script i dubbed 'The Purge" lol
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do you debloat using TitaniumBackup? Last time I tried that, I got stuck in a bootloop
dr_rick13 said:
do you debloat using TitaniumBackup? Last time I tried that, I got stuck in a bootloop
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Yeah I find that happens too. Plus despite having busybox titanium isn't even deleting system apps anymore, they are still there after reboot. So for now I stick to freezing...
Hey guys
Its been a few year since I rooted. don't worry ive already spotted the guide on how to.
My question is once im rooted. Does the old Xposed framework thingy still exist?
What app are we using for govenor/kernel control?
Is titanium backup still a good option?
Basically, whats my app suite gonna look like when im done? How am I going about tweaking my phone?
I guess im asking whats your set of default apps for your rooted phone. Mangment, tweak, backuo, gapps etc
If you have the xperia xz1, which is on android 8, oreo I don't believe Xposed framework is working on oreo yet. I also believe only one kernal is working to get root, not sure if it has any governor controls though. Titanium is still good for removing unwanted bloat.
To answer about xposed, it still work on oreo but this is a beta take a look at my attachment, I have a XZ1 Running oreo 8.0.0 firmware 47.1.A.12.75 and Xposed is working on it, I flashed it through TWRP
Hope it helped
Thank you
Just wanting to get back on the root shoot.
Even if im just rooting and trimming all the fat out. Xposed looks good. Cant wait to take all the bloatware out. Is there a "safe to remove" list about? At work ATM, but will be diving right into this this week
7hr08ik said:
Thank you
Just wanting to get back on the root shoot.
Even if im just rooting and trimming all the fat out. Xposed looks good. Cant wait to take all the bloatware out. Is there a "safe to remove" list about? At work ATM, but will be diving right into this this week
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from trial and error there isn't a lot of "safe to remove" items, I trimmed out 5 maybe 6 items before the rom got squirrelly.
This is just from memory but I got rid of avg, chrome (I use Iron browser) email and exchange, amazon and wiki links, as well as the system facebook and youtube ( to give more control over those items) Just about anything else resulted in apps force closing or other issues
Thanks guys,
Seems like its all just about how it was. Give or take a few apps.
My last thing I wonder is, how do I run barclays bank app? Im pretty sure it'll not run due to the root. Is there a way round this? Sandbox or something?
I think I just found my answer. Wondering what Magisk was ???
So with magisk I can run banking apps etc. It will also manage all of my root blah blah. Xposed can help me **** about with things. Titanium backup. And new OS.
I think im ready now ?
If you run Xposed, you lose a large chunk of the MagiskHide capabilities. You're better off without Xposed and just using Magisk
Really? That's bad. I remember xposed was fun. I shall have a read up on Magisk when I get time.
Planning on the weekend. So I can have a full day of it ?
7hr08ik said:
Hey guys
Its been a few year since I rooted. don't worry ive already spotted the guide on how to.
My question is once im rooted. Does the old Xposed framework thingy still exist?
What app are we using for govenor/kernel control?
Is titanium backup still a good option?
Basically, whats my app suite gonna look like when im done? How am I going about tweaking my phone?
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I recommend you to use EXKM (for kernel control) and FX File Browser (with the root addon) for all the debloating and modifications in the system folders.
Hey,
Ive never heard of EXKM. But still using FX browser since last time I rooted. Never switched ?
Hello.
You can install greenify4magisk, sd maid for cleaning, myandroidtool (do what amplify do but without Xposed)
7hr08ik said:
Hey,
Ive never heard of EXKM. But still using FX browser since last time I rooted. Never switched ?
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EXKM = ElementalX Kernel Manager.
Works perfect with XZ1 / XZ1 Compact.
xFirefly93 said:
EXKM = ElementalX Kernel Manager.
Works perfect with XZ1 / XZ1 Compact.
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Thank you. Been busy as hell this week. But shall be rooting asap
ok so.
Ive unlocked the bootloader
followed this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1/how-to/guide-how-to-persistant-root-xperia-xz1-t3718375
And everything worked fine
But i want to install CarbonROM
At what point in that guide do i install CarbonROM? Because my phone has been sat here at the boot "Sony" screen for about 30 mins now, and im pretty sure its not gonna boot up
Ok,
This is doing my head in now.
Twice now ive had to do a full reinstall, how in the living hell do I get xposed installed ontop of magisk?
I think install the xposed installer, then the SDK 26 from magisk. Then reboot? But it bootlooped on me?
Did I technogology wrong?
7hr08ik said:
Ok,
This is doing my head in now.
Twice now ive had to do a full reinstall, how in the living hell do I get xposed installed ontop of magisk?
I think install the xposed installer, then the SDK 26 from magisk. Then reboot? But it bootlooped on me?
Did I technogology wrong?
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On the latest version ( .179) , you can't use xposed with magisk. There is nothing to do but waiting right now . We have to wait beta 4 or whatever.
Ah, right.
But am I getting the install procedure correct?
Im not even sure theres anything in closed I actually want. But its an option, therefore I must put it in ?
Hello everyone.
I have an LG V30 US998 (former H931) and want to remove included system apps, such as google movies and tv, google music, chrome, facebook, and other apps which I use, but I always prefer to not have them as system apps. I'm rooted, and have used "System App Safe Remover" (used to be called root uninstaller) to remove this kind of apps for many years, on many different phones, and did mot need to be in a custom rom for this. Issue is, no matter how much I insist, apps are confirmed removed, but even if I reboot (app already has root granted) the apps are still there!
Does the LG V30 have some sort of encryption or something? I also tried batch uninstaller, same results. Tried going into the root system partition using FX Explorer root, and I am not able to delete any app (permission denied, even though I'm root and have granted access to fx).
Any tips? Do I have to use adb debloat (never used before)? What could be the reason? I have "force encrypt" in Magisk set to "off" if that helps. I also flashed the "disable dm verify" and "AK3 rctd" files (don't remember if this was in frankenstein thread or oreo root/unlock thread).
TLDR: How can I remove system apps from LG V30 stock Oreo (Yes, I'm aware of the risks)?
Moonfrost said:
TLDR: How can I remove system apps from LG V30 stock Oreo (Yes, I'm aware of the risks)?
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The risks are you will increase lag significantly and/or break functionality. Not like the old Android days where every apps (package) is in totally separate silo. Remove and it's gone. Now the software is all tied together. The phone will pause will looking for something before moving on.
You are NOT saving any USER space by removing SYSTEM apps. This is not something you can re-claim.
Similarly, if you use Chrome, what's wrong with having it as a system app? That's MORE space over on the user side for other stuff.
Simply FREEZE the system apps you don't wish to use with Titanium Backup. They will not run, will not be seen, but doing that will not create lag because you shot a hole in the LG firmware web.
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Moonfrost said:
I have "force encrypt" in Magisk set to "off" if that helps. I also flashed the "disable dm verify" and "AK3 rctd" files (don't remember if this was in frankenstein thread or oreo root/unlock thread).
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None of that has anything to do with what you are asking about.
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Moonfrost said:
Any tips?
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If you remove something you didn't know the system needs, then you have to reinstall your firmware to fix the issue. FREEZING disables the app, and if you find you DO need it after all, you can easily unfreeze it.
ChazzMatt said:
The risks are you will increase lag significantly and/or break functionality. Not like the old Android days where every apps (package) is in totally separate silo. Remove and it's gone. Now the software is all tied together. The phone will pause will looking for something before moving on.
You are NOT saving any USER space by removing SYSTEM apps. This is not something you can re-claim.
Similarly, if you use Chrome, what's wrong with having it as a system app? That's MORE space over on the user side for other stuff.
Simply FREEZE the system apps you don't wish to use with Titanium Backup. They will not run, will not be seen, but doing that will not create lag because you shot a hole in the LG firmware web.
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None of that has anything to do with what you are asking about.
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If you remove something you didn't know the system needs, then you have to reinstall your firmware to fix the issue. FREEZING disables the app, and if you find you DO need it after all, you can easily unfreeze it.
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Oh ok, thanks for the reply. Last phone I used also had Oreo, but same as LG V30, it wasn't the original OS, it got updated to it, I could still remove those apps. To me it was mostly the forced google apps, but if they really don't affect anything, then I guess I'll leave them there. Thanks.
Moonfrost said:
Oh ok, thanks for the reply. Last phone I used also had Oreo, but same as LG V30, it wasn't the original OS, it got updated to it, I could still remove those apps. To me it was mostly the forced google apps, but if they really don't affect anything, then I guess I'll leave them there. Thanks.
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There is a Magisk Module for it "Debloater" download that along with terminal
And in Terminal app
Command
su (it will prompt for root access)
Debloat (you'll get list of system apps you can remove)
You can select by entering number
Before doing so always backup your data and do it at your own risk ,you can disable the app if not remove that works for me
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techyrock said:
There is a Magisk Module for it "Debloater" download that along with terminal
And in Terminal app
Command
su (it will prompt for root access)
Debloat (you'll get list of system apps you can remove)
You can select by entering number
Before doing so always backup your data and do it at your own risk ,you can disable the app if not remove that works for me
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Ok. But let's say I removed Google Chrome and Gmail, would that affect anything? My idea is to not touch anything from LG...but I had the other reply saying I shouldn't remove anything nowadays.
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Ok. But let's say I removed Google Chrome and Gmail, would that affect anything? My idea is to not touch anything from LG...but I had the other reply saying I shouldn't remove anything nowadays.
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Honestly I used to debloat way before Oreo often deleted apk's myself from system/app being lazy maybe Debloater removes an app properly but yes he's right even if you explore apps in system or data folder they are in folders now
If you are backed up and have the kdz thn give it a try I did saw someone using Debloater on Oreo/Pie though
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techyrock said:
Honestly I used to debloat way before Oreo often deleted apk's myself from system/app being lazy maybe Debloater removes an app properly but yes he's right even if you explore apps in system or data folder they are in folders now
If you are backed up and have the kdz thn give it a try I did saw someone using Debloater on Oreo/Pie though
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But "way before Oreo" means probably on another phone?
There was two or three "debloater" threads going at one point, and people then kept asking in OTHER threads
"Why does AOD no longer work?"
"Why did my VoLTE stop working?"
"Why is my V30 so slow?"
MY V30 isn't slow. MY AOD works.
The common element it turned out was they all were debloating stuff just prior to these issues.
People just now getting this phone don't understand the modern firmware. Nothing is labeled "safe" and "dangerous" to remove. Everything is connected. If it's a system app, just freeze it.
Yes as I mentioned it was on previous versions of Android using explorer method The Debloater thing I came across among top Magisk module list which I had to look up for myself as in other thread I did ask for Magisk and Xposed compatible with V30 didn't get any response
Personally I don't think Removing Chrome or similar app could mess up entire system , one could give it a try in step by step manner
I am not aware if those other users removed some essential LG apps from system because even back in older days debloating if not done properly would often end up with system stopped working boot loop etc
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Just thought I would post regarding this box. Not much information on it.
I bought on a whim without realising the one thing I wanted was missing (Bluetooth). However the box has grown on me.
Its powered by the new Allwinner H616 Chip. However its performance sucks. For some reason they have forced CPU to 1.4GHz all the time. No point in my opinion, it just causes it to heat up for no reason.
Anyways, it comes fully rooted. I did try and install SuperSU, ended up killing root. So I reflashed it using usb flasher. There is also a new firmware update, which shows when doing wireless update.
Firmware released is 10.1.12, update takes it up to 10.1.14. So I did update and then factory reset to start fresh. The only problem is, rom is such a mess. App folders every where and system is filled to 100%. I deleted bloat in /system/pre-install folder.
I stopped rooting stuff years ago, so Magisk is newish to me. I thought I would try Magisk manager. Worked great, was able to install Magisk. From then on all root apps worked as I was able to set root access, which is something I could not do before. I also installed kernel auditor and set read ahead on and tweaked the build.prop. This helped speed it up, now stuff like Emulators no longer jerk and stutter.
One downside, Prime video does not work, you have to use Amazon Video (which is their browser alternative).
So hope this helps anyone with the same box.
Can you specify what changes did you to make it run faster? Were you able replace/disable Alice ux?
Hi. Can you please share your firmware file as my android box stops working after 5 minutes. I have tried to do a factory reset but it did not help.
Hello
I´m interested too.
Thanks
New firmware version: 10.1.X18 (Jun 24 2020).
Tested and working.
Changes found:
More CPU frequencies (480Mhz-1512Mhz)
Root switch
Device name changed to "MBox"
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"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h2MCPxSzkIC1MebgkNlj709yndOhkt5p/view"
Elm44 said:
New firmware version: 10.1.X18 (Jun 24 2020).
Tested and working.
Changes found:
More CPU frequencies (480Mhz-1512Mhz)
Root switch
Device name changed to "MBox"
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"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h2MCPxSzkIC1MebgkNlj709yndOhkt5p/view"
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Hi
Thanks for the file. I dont know how i can install it.
Where can i find a tuto?
Just google "Allwiner update guide"
Best with Allwinner PhoenixUSB Pro V4.0.0 tool (You need a usb-A to usb-A cable)
Can any one send the default cleaner apk file link, i factory reset my box and debloat all apps.
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Mic not working. How we use bluetooth headphones for zoom meetings?
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Just google "Allwiner update guide"
Best with Allwinner PhoenixUSB Pro V4.0.0 tool (You need a usb-A to usb-A cable)
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the virustotal site says that this tool is a troyan and malware
can you confirm this?
thanks
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Can you specify what changes did you to make it run faster? Were you able replace/disable Alice ux?
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@alienhead95
Did you manage to do this?: replace/disable Alice UX?
Tks.
webipsum said:
@alienhead95
Did you manage to do this?: replace/disable Alice UX?
Tks.
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Yes, I was. I installed another launcher like the ATV launcher. Made that the default launcher and then disabled the aclie ux through adb using "adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 <package_to_disable>".
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Yes, I was. I installed another launcher like the ATV launcher. Made that the default launcher and then disabled the aclie ux through adb using "adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 <package_to_disable>".
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@alienhead95
I installed SMART Launcher, but every time I restart TANIX TX6s Alice UX returns as the default launcher.
I did a test forcing to uninstall ALICE UX but the TX6s didn't boot anymore.
I decided to apply the firmware again. I never used ADB SHELL commands manually. I'll read about it.
Very grateful for the tip.
If you have any tutorial ...
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See my post:
[TX6s] Android TV Box - Alice UX - Launcher Change Help?
I tried magisk manager, loaded on an old version sitting on a memory card and updated it, then I flashed 20.4 magisk with it and both are showing as installed and up-to-date. I still haven't seen any root dialogue and magiskSU is blank. so... do I have 2 root solutions on my device at the same time, one system pre-installed and one systemless ?
EDIT: turning off the root switch and rebooting allowed magisk to pick up the remaining root apps that had superSU through the built-in root. it also allowed adaway to finally install systemless hosts.
turn off root if you flashed magisk via magisk manager don't be a numbskull like me.
I'd be happier if I had TWRP onboard, is there a way to achieve this currently ?
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@alienhead95
Did you manage to do this?: replace/disable Alice UX?
Tks.
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installing titanium from the playstore I was able to freeze the stock ATV YouTube app and replace it with YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 (no more adverts, but tricky navigation) so if Alice is the launchers name freezing that should work with titanium. I watched a video review and using other android TV launchers, works just fine.
I know this is an old thread, but can anyone assist with the TWRP recovery .IMG for the above box or for the H40 Allwinner H616 box..
I need it to temporarily boot into recovery to flash magisk but can't seem to find it anywhere.
PS I have the ZIP but do not want to permanently flash it....
use Magisk Manager to install Magisk, the box is already rooted so this can work.
AFAIK there is no TWRP for this device, nor any roms. we'd need to be passing around a collection plate for donations to a Dev before we were likely to see anything.
Mine is a H40 ....
Same chipset / board, however mine says it's not rooted. I know this rom works on my box, sm1s tested it. How ever all I need is magisk working, so I can fix the gplay certification error. I have apps that need it to work...
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Mine is a H40 ....
Same chipset / board, however mine says it's not rooted. I know this rom works on my box, sm1s tested it. How ever all I need is magisk working, so I can fix the gplay certification error. I have apps that need it to work...
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check settings / device preferences / about /... see if you have an option called root switch which must toggle root access on and off.
It doesn't. But thanks. I have been able to patch my bootloader to install Magisk
has anyone here tried Edxposed and can report that it works OK ?
I don't have a PC to reflash the device if it goes wrong but I need to get minmin guard onboard as I passionately hate intrusive ads.
if you do have it working which version of Rirucore did you use ?
DON'T USE EDXPOSED both YAHFA and SandHook latest versions lead to a soft brick!
YAHFA let's you get a lot further into the process, but activating 3 modules was enough to ''corrupt'' the rom.
now it's either factory reset or try removing files via ADB on a borrowed laptop. I've suffered so that you don't have to. God I miss TWRP.
Hi!
I tried flash T95's firmware (because of root) i Transpeed h616 (no root), has same device-specification, but It doesn't boot.
Do you know why? Shall I unlock boot-loader first? If yes then fastboot oem unlock works?
Thanks
3mel said:
I tried magisk manager, loaded on an old version sitting on a memory card and updated it, then I flashed 20.4 magisk with it and both are showing as installed and up-to-date. I still haven't seen any root dialogue and magiskSU is blank. so... do I have 2 root solutions on my device at the same time, one system pre-installed and one systemless ?
EDIT: turning off the root switch and rebooting allowed magisk to pick up the remaining root apps that had superSU through the built-in root. it also allowed adaway to finally install systemless hosts.
turn off root if you flashed magisk via magisk manager don't be a numbskull like me.
I'd be happier if I had TWRP onboard, is there a way to achieve this currently ?
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installing titanium from the playstore I was able to freeze the stock ATV YouTube app and replace it with YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 (no more adverts, but tricky navigation) so if Alice is the launchers name freezing that should work with titanium. I watched a video review and using other android TV launchers, works just fine.
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