Nintendo Switch USB-C cable + iPad charger will fry my OP6T? - OnePlus 6T Accessories

I have a spare USB-C cable from my Nintendo Switch, also a spare charger from an old iPad. Is it safe to use them to charge my phone?
I've read people saying they won't use any other acessories other than OP, and other people saying it is safe to use 3rd party stuff as long as it is good quality brands (I assume Nintendo and Apple would be considered to be good quality).
So... is it safe? Would you do it? Why?
Thanks a lot!!

Personally I don't see any issue with this as long as the USB-C cable has the proper 56k resistor in it. I would assume that an official Nintendo cable would have this.
I personally use multiple different chargers for my 6T and good quality cables like Anker or Aukey without any issues at all.

bernardopina said:
I have a spare USB-C cable from my Nintendo Switch, also a spare charger from an old iPad. Is it safe to use them to charge my phone?
I've read people saying they won't use any other acessories other than OP, and other people saying it is safe to use 3rd party stuff as long as it is good quality brands (I assume Nintendo and Apple would be considered to be good quality).
So... is it safe? Would you do it? Why?
Thanks a lot!!
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It should be safe.
It's not going to deliver more than 1.5A. The phone won't fast charge with anything but. "dash" charger.

Shouldn't be a problem, i sometimes use my wife's Samsung Note 8 charger on my phone, it's no dash charging but it does do a job.

There are amazon brands which are equally good and way cheaper than Nintendo or Apple stuff: AmazonBasics, Anker, Aukey,...
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ive used my ZTE Axon 7 charger and my personal favorite aftermarket usb type-c cable, Anker, with no issues. it does not show the dash, warp, wth ever speed icon, but it works fine without frying my phone. that being said, i do typically just use the oem cable and charger. i think speed is the only tradeoff, but its quick charge 2 vs [one plus faster charge] so its a few min faster to use OEM is the only IRL difference i've seen.

bernardopina said:
I have a spare USB-C cable from my Nintendo Switch, also a spare charger from an old iPad. Is it safe to use them to charge my phone?
I've read people saying they won't use any other acessories other than OP, and other people saying it is safe to use 3rd party stuff as long as it is good quality brands (I assume Nintendo and Apple would be considered to be good quality).
So... is it safe? Would you do it? Why?
Thanks a lot!!
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The whole myth about using 3rd party cables and chargers can vary. Brands such as AmazonBasics, Anker, Aukey, and other reputable brands will be perfectly fine to charge with, but not dash charge (not that it will hurt the phone, it will only charge at normal speeds). OnePlus phones can only dash charge with OnePlus accessories, and do not support Qualcomm charging standards. Cables and chargers from other devices such as Nintendo, Apple, Google, HTC, etc. should also be safe to use. Charging with cables from brands you've never heard of, have bad reviews, known they don't have the proper 56k resistor or cables from that $50 RCA tablet you bought may work, but I doubt will have the necessary USB protection for charging.
Instead of spending $20 on an Apple Lightning cable (that will break in a year) costs more money than buying a $7 Anker cable on Amazon. So yes, I would do it not only for saving money but for convenience sake of having more cables.

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Any 3rd party chargers and cables?

Does anyone have a 3rd party charger and/or cable that will work with the TF?
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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wow!
just wow.
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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No Apple cable will work on this device. The Transformer has a proprietary charger interface, so the cable would have to be made specifically for this device.
Similarly, all Apple product chargers use their own proprietary interfaces, so chargers made for iPhones or iPads will only be made to work with iPhones or iPads, not other devices.
And the funny part is that someone responded...
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Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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Haha, no iPhone cable would not work with Asus. Last I checked, Asus cable was proprietary as well.
Wait a little, soon someone's gonna dismantle one and they will be anywhere (monoprice, ebay)... (i guess(hope), the apple cable actually is everywhere even if it is proprietary...)
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
I would love an additional cable. I'm going on a trip and I could just see me losing the one and only way to charge the Transformer. Stupid proprietary cables. I still love my Asus Transformer, but we need uniformity.
seib said:
cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
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It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
I think he meant the wall charger (the one you plug the usb ipod cable in...)
A Naked Emo said:
It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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A Naked Emo said:
It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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I believe they're just referring to the charger itself not the apple sync cable. And no that isn't likely to work as the ASUS charger gives out 15V/1.2A on one of the pins unique to USB3
The 6ft USB 3 Male/Female extension cable is now back in stock on monoprice. For those that haven't been reading up, this is essentially an extension to charge your Transformer since the extra pins in USB 3 are used for power.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030309&p_id=6506&seq=1&format=2
Any car charger in the market? Off topic but optimumwifi is getting 6mbps down, 10mbps up on this baby.
Bumping this thread. I find it hard to believe (or at least surprising) that this has been out 3 months now and I still can't find any third party replacement cables and/or 15v chargers. Paying $25 for a factory one is simply not something I can do, it just makes me sick to my stomach.
The most important thing I would like to find is the cable. I did buy a monoprice USB extension cable, which at least makes using the device while charging possible - but it is no solution in the case of this factory cable breaking in any way. I always like to have an extra charging cable on hand, and usually pay $1.99 or less for such things for my other phones and tablets.
need cables
@brunes
I agree with you. This reminds me too much of the original asus eee pc. There were no additional chargers nor expansion ssd (mini pcie) available for months. People were coming up with all sorts of work around ideas. Argh.
The idea of not having a replacement cable and charger does make me very uncomfortable. This is really unacceptable, and I hope Asus fixes it immediately.
I have to think about a post I read: just buy a second one and immediately return it with the bad charger if yours goes bad. This seems to screw the retailer, but hopefully Asus covers their cost in these cases.
In any case, it is a bad problem. I wrote my newegg review to exactly highlight this problem.
Not having a replacement cable is not a very comfortable feeling.
Anyway, an iPad charger does work for the tablet. I don't have a dock so no way to test it.
However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
Q.Entity said:
However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
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It is charging at 5V. I assume using diodes to charge the cells in parallel instead of series without causing a short. Only other explanation is ASUS put DC-DC regulator in to ramp up the 5V. Only works while off or asleep and is sloooooowww...took me 8 hrs to get 22% charge on 5V USB.
a rabbit just chewed up my new transformer's cable
i emailed asus, but from my googling it looks like i'll have to spend about $40 ordering a replacement cable from a random retailer. sucks!
Check the DIY charger thread link in my signature. With 2 off the shelf parts you can have another charger for under $15.

Need a longer charging cable.

I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
That cable will work fine. Pretty much any 3rd party cable will work.
EchoX860 said:
I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
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Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice
Do NOT buy any cable from anywhere else. Unless it's cheaper, but it probably won't be. Their stuff has always been great and the selection is awesome.
http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=micro+usb
If you buy from monoprice and want a cable over 3 ft then you have to buy a "premium" cable and that costs more. I got this one on Amazon, it will give you the full charging speed at 6 ft or more:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RB6881Y/
Keep in mind that to get the full speed with a cable longer than 3 ft you really need to get something like 24/28 AWG otherwise it can't carry the charge. I bought a bunch of 28/28 cables and none of them gave me the full speed. At 3 ft pretty much any cable will work.
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
Sleeepy2 said:
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
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28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
frobie said:
28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
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It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
ttabbal said:
It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
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If it works for you then I'm envious, but I've got 3 Motorola chargers, 3 Nexus 6s and 8 6ft 28/28 cables that aren't doing it and for my money that's a pretty good sample. I only have all these because I manage the phone plan at work. When we bought the 24/28 6ft cables we had no issues.

Good USB C cables

Can anyone recommend some good USB C charging / sync cables please.
Could do with a multipack with some different lengths for home, car and desk.
Many thanks.
Anker make great cables, I would definitely recommend them, they're usually braided and sturdy.
sning, is Dash Charge important for you? Do you want cable with Dash Charge or normal ones will do fine?
daniel_loft said:
sning, is Dash Charge important for you? Do you want cable with Dash Charge or normal ones will do fine?
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Hi, is there any unofficial cable and charger which support DASH charge ?
daniel_loft said:
sning, is Dash Charge important for you? Do you want cable with Dash Charge or normal ones will do fine?
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It would be nice if they did, but it isn't a deal breaker if they don't
Even if they are USB 2.0, I don't think there are many alternatives that can beat AmazonBasics' quality/price. They are currently at 6.29€/90cm and 9.29€/270cm in Germany.
Although, looking carefully, seems that Anker has the same prices, at least for the black version..
I picked up a couple of Anker and Orzly cables, haven't gone wrong with them yet.
Can recommend Aukey cables. Bundles available at amazon. Dash charge not tested yet.
I try this one and it doesn't work with dash charger
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B018HUOPGE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also original OP2 usb cable do not work with dash charger.
Been using this - http://www.amazon.in/Baseus-Macbook-Mobile-Output-Silver/dp/B016RNXFRS for my Nexus 6P for a year. Now using it for my Oneplus 5.
Just check AliExpress . You can buy official dash charger cables at a much lower price. 100cm and 150cm. The actual charger is a different story though.
lethallunatic said:
Just check AliExpress . You can buy official dash charger cables at a much lower price. 100cm and 150cm. The actual charger is a different story though.
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How authentic/genuine are the dash chargers and cables from ali express? they look legit but I dont want to risk my device....prices are fantastic for the cables though
Not USB cable related - however I bought a Wireless charger and receiver for my OP3 (which I will be using on my OP5) Works an absolute treat! Not as fast as the DASH charge, however always nice just to plonk your phone on the wireless charger, and let it do it's job.
djsubterrain said:
Anker make great cables, I would definitely recommend them, they're usually braided and sturdy.
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+1 for Anker.
Bought a good few and they all look pretty good.
Keep in mind that, most likely, DASH charge won't work with any cable other than the original ones.
Or, at least, that failed for me with all the ones I tried so far.
if you want dash charging, you'll need to buy the 'official' cables from OnePlus unfortunately, though you can get them from other sellers
There are a lot of decent priced supposedly dash capable cables on Amazon with prime shipping right now. I'd check those out and try first. Amazon has great customer service if by chance they don't work.
Anker has the best cables after the original but I would stick with the original because red is sweet
I personally recommend BlitzWolf's cables. I bought several of them at banggood.com 3 months ago and they are truly excellent! I bought the 2m cable, but they have other lengths as well. They all work flawlessly.
No DASH charge of course, but I do not care.
I got a pack of five from a company called rophie on amazon. All different lengths too, very useful actually!
Blitz wolf makes nice cables

What USB C cords are you guys purchasing to charge your OP6T?

This is my first USB C device so I don't have a lot of information if I should be just purchasing random USB C cords on Amazon to charge my OP6T at work. Any suggestions or information on what type of cord I should get would be helpful. I would like to purchase 2-3 cords in different lengths if possible (one for work as mentioned, one for the car, and one for my battery pack).
USB c has been out long enough to trust the reviews of them on Amazon. Just check the ratings and read some of the reviews
I'll put in a high vote for anything Anker.
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I'll put in a high vote for anything Anker.
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I have a USB-A--> USB-C cable from Anker. Definitely can't complain.
I have been using the Aukey cables without any issues so far. Get the longer ones for data and the shorter ones if you are only using it for charging.
I've had a couple that worked fine elsewhere but would not dash (yeah I now they lost the right to use that name) charge my OnePlus devices, I'd read the reviews and make sure you're ordering something that's going to leverage your charger. I've got a couple older OnePlus cables in the drawer which I'm assuming will work but I cant prove it until the 6th.
If you want fast charge you have to use the originals. If you want spares you can get some in AliExpress for a reasonable-ish price.
If you want cables to use with batteries or don't care about fast charge, I find that TOPK cables are pretty good, cheap too. They usually come in several colours, have cord and are pretty flexible.
An engineer at Google, Benson Leung, took it upon himself to test many cables for standards compliance. I cannot get his site to load, but I found this article that lists some of his approved cables. http://buyandroidchargers.com/list-of-benson-leungs-usb-c-google-engineer-usb-c/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8GU544/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dkTJBbN069J3Z
Based on the recommendation here https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
I wanted a longer cable to plug into my computer, as well as a couple of additional cables to charge at work and in my car. I am also purchasing the OPPO charger for work as well, since it can be had cheaper than the OnePlus wall wart.
These are replacing worn out and slower type C cables.
I thought if you want fast charge you have to use the charger. The cable can be any quality cable
coyotejodido said:
If you want fast charge you have to use the originals. If you want spares you can get some in AliExpress for a reasonable-ish price.
If you want cables to use with batteries or don't care about fast charge, I find that TOPK cables are pretty good, cheap too. They usually come in several colours, have cord and are pretty flexible.
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biggiestuff said:
I thought if you want fast charge you have to use the charger. The cable can be any quality cable
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AFAIK USB type A side has additional pins for DASH/Fast Charge. That's why it won't work on any other cables.
jamaniek said:
AFAIK USB type A side has additional pins for DASH/Fast Charge. That's why it won't work on any other cables.
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That makes sense
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I read on OnePlus site that if you want fast charge you have to use their supplied cable or equal too.
I have a few of these aftermarket ones from amazon, work fine with dash charging.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DS782SB/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I was going to say, I haven't had a look see for a while but this morning I hit Amazon and there are a number of cables that work with dash charge according to the reviews. Some that don't, also according to the reviews. My big takeaway was half the price of the official goods so I went ahead and ordered the same one the fellow above me linked because it's the first one I ran into that was 6 ft instead of a meter. Glad to here someone got there first and it worked: Amazon reviews are good but I have more faith in a thumbs up from a fellow phone person.
Anker all the way.
coyotejodido said:
If you want fast charge you have to use the originals. If you want spares you can get some in AliExpress for a reasonable-ish price.
If you want cables to use with batteries or don't care about fast charge, I find that TOPK cables are pretty good, cheap too. They usually come in several colours, have cord and are pretty flexible.
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Can you link a fast charge cord or adapters from AliExpress? I swear I never know what's fake on that website. I've ordered a few things from them before but only on smaller purchases.
I ordered one from Amazon .. it comes from shenzen China. Where most electronics are made in China..
It's literally a official OP cable but packaged in a generic box.
I tested and it works for dash charge..
It's exactly the same except it says dash on the tip .
And it was under $7
I'll post a link of anyone shows interest
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BuLLeT_PrOOf_wAlleTz said:
I ordered one from Amazon .. it comes from shenzen China. Where most electronics are made in China..
It's literally a official OP cable but packaged in a generic box.
I tested and it works for dash charge..
It's exactly the same except it says dash on the tip .
And it was under $7
I'll post a link of anyone shows interest
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Post it bro
I asked my friend in Asia to buy me some Oppo chargers and OP 1.5m dash cable. It costs around $3 for the Oppo charger and $4 for the cable. Also bought the dash car charger for under $10.

Question 3rd party charger

What specs should I look for when looking for a 3rd party fast charger for the S23?
Just go for a Samsung brick/cable. The 25w ones are cheap and reliable.
If Samsung hadn't gotten so chintzy they still ship a complete phone set. Is that too much to ask for in a $1G flagship phone?
Samsung sucks now... more money, less perks.
Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
PhilMorin said:
Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
blackhawk said:
^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
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I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
PhilMorin said:
Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
PhilMorin said:
I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
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My 10 yo Dell laptop has that battery charge isolation feature. It's nice to have.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
I would make sure your charger has USB-PD with PPS. And that the PPS range it at least 12V at 5A. Most chargers limit the current in PPS mode at 3A. If the charger listing does not show the specs, try looking for "Samsung 45W", that seems to be the layman's term.
You may also need a 5A cable, a small chip in the cable telling the devices that it is capable of carrying up to 5A current.
Jaxom84 said:
The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
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Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
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Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
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And I ordered a Spigen PowerArc ArcStation Pro that just came by (I'm slowly replacing the old chargers for GaN ones), and it also is compatible with 45W charging.
For 25,49€, it fills the needs perfectly (smaller than the 1+9 brick, power efficient, more affordable).
I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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It's always a tight decision between Anker and Spigen, but recently I've been increasingly going for Spigen. The build quality is getting my favours, and they also have the "Designed for Samsung" label on an increasing number of products, which is guaranteeing that the quality is controlled and approved by our Korean friends. And as they're falling in the same price range for most of their products, if I'm buying stuff to pair with a Samsung device, then Spigen is my go to.
I've also been trying some Baseus products (docking station and USB cables), they're quite good in that segment of products too.
The handy size of the Anker done it for me

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