Camera compared to iPhone 6S, which one is better? - Nokia 7.1 Questions & Answers

Hello!
In case any of you guys had an experience with both devices, could you please share your thoughts on which device has better camera: iPhone 6S or Nokia 7.1?
Thank you in advance!

My cousin has the iPhone 7, the day I buy this Nokia I asked her to compare the cameras, and she ended up getting mad because this phone has a better camera, and a really impressive portrait mode, so to your question, yes it is better than the iPhone 6s one

My Wife uses a iPhone 6s from '15 and I got her Nokia 7.1 after careful consideration about all the specifications(RAM, Camera, space, display size) since statistically its an upgrade. She was not very impressed at first and I thought it will change in time(you will understand coming out of ios ecosystem) but to my dismay she still isn't feeling comfortable. Thought of exchanging my daily driver (iPhone 6s) with nokia to try and see what was lacking. Below are my observation about camera.
1. stock camera app from nokia is a little laggy compared to iPhone 6s
2. iPhone camera opens faster and takes picture in no time.
3. Live bokeh works well for nokia, missed out in iPhone
4. Nokia takes a lil more seconds to focus on subject
5. Quality is same in both phones, expect punchy colors in nokia due to their screen.
6. Color reproduction is not natural in nokia, they use some sort of beauty software in front facing camera.
7. 3D touch gives you the satisfaction and connection you have with your mobile while using for pictures.
If you have a 6s which is working well I would not advice to change it.

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Galaxy S2 camera..bad or perfect ??

hello
i want to buy a new android phone and i love capture photos..so which one have a better camera..SGS2 or MyTouch Slide 4G or iPhone 4..i don't care about video recording
Best camera I've had on a smart phone yet; had an iPhone 4 for a bit before this and that had the best camera imo till the GS II, the GS II takes amazing photos and can't forget the 2mp front cam vs the less than 1mp vga camera that you get with almost any smartphone these days...
Theres a post on the GS II general here that says "post the best picture you've taken with the gs ii" or something, id check that thread out as people have some really amazing photos taken with the phone up.
Edit- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139591
There we go, check that thread out. If you are a skilled photographer or even just a point and shoot guy the gs ii takes great photos.
unleashed12 said:
Best camera I've had on a smart phone yet; had an iPhone 4 for a bit before this and that had the best camera imo till the GS II, the GS II takes amazing photos and can't forget the 2mp front cam vs the less than 1mp vga camera that you get with almost any smartphone these days...
Theres a post on the GS II general here that says "post the best picture you've taken with the gs ii" or something, id check that thread out as people have some really amazing photos taken with the phone up.
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my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
-juanito- said:
my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
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That's not true. Even the original Galaxy S has better camera than iphone 4.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
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my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
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Well to each their own, from my personal experience i prefer the GSII camera 10x over the iPhone 4 camera. Then again I'm not really a photographing enthusiast I'm just a point and shoot type of person nor do i know the technical stuff about cameras to actually inspect both cameras technically and say which is better. If you are a "pro" photographer id google the specifications of each like the sensor or w/e and read up on it before making a decision.
gs2 camera is excellent..
sent from my galaxy S2.
I'm actually disappointed with the camera, I'm struggling to take any decent pictures with it, although that's probably my lack of talent.
I remember the iphone 4 camera being better, but without having them side by side I'll never know.
On paper the galaxy is better though.
It doesn't replace my 50D, but it does replace my 10 megapixel Sony TX1. Having an 8 megapixel cam on a phone is perfect for most uses.
Wait for iphone 5 or gs3
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edit: wrong thread, was meant to post into the "best photo you've taken" one... somehow ended up here...
Anyway, definitely it is much better than my SGS1, esp in lower light. The front camera is unreal also, I take a lot of pics with the front camera when I am out and about (so I can see what I am framing with me in the pic ;-). The SGS1 front camera produced distorted, messy blobs, the SGSII one is quite a bit better. Good enough for facebook uploads, anyway.
But friends took a pic of a group of us with an iphone in a poorly lit telephone exchange, I was amazed at the clarity of the image, my SGS1 was never capable of such an image in those light conditions (my old old Nokia N95 on the other hand, I was nearly always happy with those pics). I reckon (but will have to wait and see till I get to the same location again one day) that the SGSII might just pip it, thanks also to the flash.
Came from an iPhone 4, it definitely has a better camera and it's not very picky when it comes to lighting and focus. In contrast the SGS1 camera was pretty meh compared to the iPhone 4's shots
sgs2 has one very good camera.but the best camera smartphone is the nokia n8.
I agree, the camera is way better than the one the SGS1 had.
First time I can take decent pictures with my phone in a bar - without a flash. Great
I do think the s2 camera is slightly better than iPhone 4 but it does have a slower shutter speed (my mate and I have tested this) and sometimes its hard to get in focus... overall though not bad. Just my 2c
Its not the best camera around but it can surely rival the N8's 12Mpixel camera. The only downside is that there is a pink/green spot depending on the light conditions ( even out doors ) and some users have frame drop issues on low light when capturing 720P. 1080P video is extremely zoomed so this is only good as a 720P video capture. Putting aside the defects, the image quality is very acceptable, altho it still cant rival my very old Sony DSC-P200 ( roughly about 7-8yrs old )
if you use true hdr apps to take pics of the sun you'll be fine
regular camera for the rest
those are (true) hdr from the sgs2:
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/2011-08-09 20.55.59.jpg?m=1312916999
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/2011-08-02 20.32.31.jpg?m=1312313137
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/hdr_00014_dark.jpg?m=1312401596
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dont be fooled with camera apps claiming hdr and taking a single picture - its just image processing and the result sux
im listing that because the iphone4 uses hdr for pics and this kind of pic look a lot better that way
gsmarena has good comparisons of different devices' cameras . It's important to see pictures taken under similar conditions and the same test scene .
One shouldn't expect wonders from such a tiny sensor . Anything not shot in daylight / lowest ISO/ is a compromise.
pan24 said:
sgs2 has one very good camera.but the best camera smartphone is the nokia n8.
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Just saying, the number of megapixels are irrelevant.
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Best phone I ever had. and I had Iphone (1), HTC Desire & SGS 1.
i love the camera. it really is very good.
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Anyone switch from iPhone 4s

Thinking about making the switch. If I switch I was looking for a phone that would be better than the iPhone retina display as well as have a better camera. The Xperia S is probably the only android that beats the iPhone in these areas. Looking for some experiences from anyone who switched.
motionUS said:
Thinking about making the switch. If I switch I was looking for a phone that would be better than the iPhone retina display as well as have a better camera. The Xperia S is probably the only android that beats the iPhone in these areas. Looking for some experiences from anyone who switched.
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Tough call, iphone has far more accessories and add ons.
The S camera still struggles a bit in low light, colours have a blueish blotchy look in low light, where the iphone gets a high level of grain but colour stays accurate.
For Camera speed and flexibility the S wins hands down.
And for Display the S is a little better than the iphone, nice and crisp with good contrast and sharpness. Best display I have seen.
Coming from iOS to Android or vice versa is something by itself to be discussed since they are two different animals.
Xperia S has a bigger screen. Good resolution and very crisp.
I think Xperia S has a better Design, even tho I like iPhone 4S.
I like camera on Xperia S more, I took some photos with my wife's 4S and compared them and to my eyes, Xperia S had better coloring.
But I can't get my wife to switch since she likes her iPhone very much and I can experience the two worlds at once.
I've just sold my factory unlocked iphone 4s white today and I am waitting for my Xperia S to be delivered tomorrow. I love the Xperia S design and the 12mpx camera, bigger screen and NFC.
Had a iPhone 4 before so I can't compare camera but regarding the screen I would say nothing really separate them quality wise but I do enjoy the much bigger one on my Sony.
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My Xperia S is going to come in my hands!
Very exciting about that, thought many site said that its camera not better than iP4S cam!
hhlong89 said:
thought many site said that its camera not better than iP4S cam!
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It's a bit odd that the Sony camera used in the iPhone4s may be better than the Sony camera in a Sony phone.
4 weeks ago they stole my Iphone 4s and i bought this phone. Something else.
I can say that i miss the smoothness and the build quality of ios. Also the quality apps.. I miss it on the android.
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Efe64 said:
4 weeks ago they stole my Iphone 4s and i bought this phone. Something else.
I can say that i miss the smoothness and the build quality of ios. Also the quality apps.. I miss it on the android.[\B]
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So why I see half apps on App Store are 3 stars or less, and on Android Market at least 70% of apps have at least 4 stars?
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Retina screen made by LG and this phone has higher resolution than retina...its an IPS...
Simply beautiful...
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My experience with the camera is quite opposite.. The Xperia S beats the Iphone 4S camera in any way.. Tested vs. 4S in low light environment and the iphone 4S had a really dark picture with no detail and the pics looked much brighter and crisper on my phone. Think screens a relatively comparable. Ie. the screen on Iphone 4s is very good, but still think colors a slightly better on XS.
Also love the dialer app.. Very well done..
Wife has already got iphone 4, which I sometimes use too so I didn't go for iphone 4s - plus the cost of the handset. The single most annoying thing about the Sony S is the battery power! How did they get 420 hours for 3g? According to gsmarena.com btw. Although I play with the phone a little too much, even if I put it aside, I don't think it would last more than two days unless I left it on flight mode! Only lost 2% battery life overnight in flight mode, where it would have probably been at least 15% normally!
Overall good, hoping for ICS to improve things further.
I have a 4s as well as my Xperia - plan on keeping both as I can never decide conclusively on ios or Android
There are times the Xperia wins for me - screen real estate for media etc, wide screen resolution in camera and times when the iPhone suits me more due to its compact size. I've found the camera on the Xperia to have a slight edge to my eyes so it's the phone of choice on my family day out
Sound quality is pretty close through headphones - I'd say with my Soundmagic E10s the Xperia might edge it for me although the iPhone seems able to drive the phones louder.
Overall though the Xperia is probably my favourite Droid so far if you're a fan of the OS you won't be disappointed.
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I sold iphone 4S and I have now the Xperia S.....it's amazing to see that the market offer a lot of better phones than iphone. Xperia S it's better in everythig: camera is better, screen is the best possible at the moment and much better than iphone 4s screen, videos are better, battery is better, hardware is better! Iphone 4s sucks!
hhlong89 said:
My Xperia S is going to come in my hands!
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Its not about the stars.. Any ios user would recognize this.
On ios you have every app you need.
But also i love my babe (xps)
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In my experience, the iphone 4s has more comprehensive apps however the file management system sucks, so does itunes so if you have a lot of documents or folders android is better.
The xperia s screen is better but has worse viewing angles, also after the recent firmware update my 4s battery life has at the very least doubled making it last longer than the xperia s although I'm not sure how much longer yet.
The camera of the iphone 4s is better with a lot less noise and doesn't ever crash whereas the xperia s requires better light conditions however sometimes it produces a more vibrant colour. Video I haven't tested much but the iphone 4s video is amazing whereas the xperia s is decent in terms of frame rate and some slight image stabilisation problems.
For photo and video editing apps in particular, or if you want to be able to find 3d games for example the iphone 4s is better right now. Iphoto and imovie surpass anything I've seen on google play and some 3d games haven't been updated for newer android phones so you may not be able to find games even if they're on the store. I used microsoft photosyth on the iphone 4s but it's not available on android so annoying, but all my core needs are satisfied.
The xperia s plays flash, if the flash it's playing is optimised for mobile you can even play it in full screen 1080p on a tv via HDMI however if it's not optimised standard flash video will be a bit slow.
Any other questions just ask.
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He explained my problem.
I had an iPhone 4s for a Couples of days and somehow I felt the Camera to be better but the screen and most things Apple way of doing it turnes Me off. Im a macowner but cant stand iTunes
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He explained my problem.
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+1 for this.
I would say the cameras are a wash, pretty much the same overall. (edge to Xperia in some areas and iphone in others)
I really miss the quality/quantity of the ios apps. But I found I was getting app burnout. D/L too many redundant apps. etc.
With my use I would say the battery life is pretty much the same too.
Honestly, big reasons for swapping to the Xperia for me
iphone =
cramped screen for video and games
4:3 (seriously apple)
itunes to add anything is a PITA (ie, I want to add one video to watch and I am leaving for work in 5 min)
Needing to open an app to view anything (widgets anyone)

Camera quality - moved from other brands thoughts ??

I have to admit I am blown away with the mate 10 pro , I can not get over how accurate and brilliant the AI is
I did think the note 8 was good but the 10 pro is bloody amazing
Has anyone else moved from phones which are deemed as the best what are your thoughts ??
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I moved from an LG G4 that I updated to stock Nougat 7.0 (was never officially released outside Korea; it was a HUGE improvement over Android 6, especially in camera performance and battery lifetime). And I must say ... the Mate 10 Pro is better in most ways, but disappointing in one very important aspect.
Pro:
- way faster in every respect (although with the Nougat ROM the G4 was reasonable fast)
- AMAZING battery life (2 days of regular use for me, never afraid of leaving the house with 30% battery)
- blazingly fast fingerprint reader
- much, much brighter screen (great even in sunlight)
- way better voice quality and reception as a phone
Con:
- VERY bad camera algorithm (It is one-sided. Everything not made of straight lines and flat surfaces looks VERY unnatural and loses MANY details) both for still images and video
- surprisingly bulky in the pocket compared to the curved and tapered design of the G4
The camera is the biggest disappointment, because this is pretty much the most important feature for me on a new phone. The camera reviews somehow were very off this time and I plan to change phones way earlier than the 2-3 years I usually have as a cycle. (Here's hoping for the next LG or a real top of the line Nokia. Loved, loved, LOVED my Lumia 1020 and 1050 for their cameras).
My biggest gripe is, that the hardware is not bat at all. I can get out quite a lot from the DNG files. Dynamic range is great and the metering is rather accurate. BUT still the level of detail is lower than the older G4 could provide. I am very sure, that a G4 with a stronger ISP and more modern autofocus-tech would blow the Mate 10 out of the water in most respects with the images it could produce - and I mean both the out of camera jpegs and DNGs. The G4 images had an amazing level of detail and were very natural and appealing.
And don't get me started on the POOR video quality (washed out, low detail, zoom that goes in steps, mediocre audio, ...), that cannot even begin to hold a candle against the G4. It looks and feels like a lower midrange phone camera! It is embarrassing.
One saving grace for the Mate 10 camera story is the black and white mode. Even in lower light scenes it is amazing. Truly. GREAT level of detail and great processing. Why on earth could they not go closer to the b/w processing with the colored pictures? It strikes a GREAT balance of noise reduction and sharpening. And the atmosphere of those b/w images is something of its own. One shot I took on my commute on the train looks like it belongs into an artsy article about the trials of life in a top of the line magazine. And it was just a random shot with no setup (I was still testing out the camera). Really, try the b/w mode for atmospheric pictures.
But all in all, the camera performance is my least favorite in a long time. I rank all my recent predecessor phones (G4, Lumia 1050, Lumia 1020) higher for their time with the G4 (on stock Android 7) even being better overall compared directly to the Mate 10.
In all other aspects the Mate 10 kills it and is amazing. Too bad the camera is this important for me. Lets hope for a BIG camera software update soon ...
I haven't tried the video yet I'll have a play around - I have done some black and white pics and yeh your right it's wow one gripe with the note 8 was there wasn't a black and white mode
From what I've seen the camera copes well in the dark but I am going to explore it more this weekend and get out and do some architecture and will see if I can see what you mean
I have always been a iPhone users until last year with the note 8 it was a hard transition the problem with the iPhone is the cameras aren't that good they look fine until you zoom in
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ThoroSOE said:
I moved from an LG G4 that I updated to stock Nougat 7.0 (was never officially released outside Korea; it was a HUGE improvement over Android 6, especially in camera performance and battery lifetime). And I must say ... the Mate 10 Pro is better in most ways, but disappointing in one very important aspect.
Pro:
- way faster in every respect (although with the Nougat ROM the G4 was reasonable fast)
- AMAZING battery life (2 days of regular use for me, never afraid of leaving the house with 30% battery)
- blazingly fast fingerprint reader
- much, much brighter screen (great even in sunlight)
- way better voice quality and reception as a phone
Con:
- VERY bad camera algorithm (It is one-sided. Everything not made of straight lines and flat surfaces looks VERY unnatural and loses MANY details) both for still images and video
- surprisingly bulky in the pocket compared to the curved and tapered design of the G4
The camera is the biggest disappointment, because this is pretty much the most important feature for me on a new phone. The camera reviews somehow were very off this time and I plan to change phones way earlier than the 2-3 years I usually have as a cycle. (Here's hoping for the next LG or a real top of the line Nokia. Loved, loved, LOVED my Lumia 1020 and 1050 for their cameras).
My biggest gripe is, that the hardware is not bat at all. I can get out quite a lot from the DNG files. Dynamic range is great and the metering is rather accurate. BUT still the level of detail is lower than the older G4 could provide. I am very sure, that a G4 with a stronger ISP and more modern autofocus-tech would blow the Mate 10 out of the water in most respects with the images it could produce - and I mean both the out of camera jpegs and DNGs. The G4 images had an amazing level of detail and were very natural and appealing.
And don't get me started on the POOR video quality (washed out, low detail, zoom that goes in steps, mediocre audio, ...), that cannot even begin to hold a candle against the G4. It looks and feels like a lower midrange phone camera! It is embarrassing.
One saving grace for the Mate 10 camera story is the black and white mode. Even in lower light scenes it is amazing. Truly. GREAT level of detail and great processing. Why on earth could they not go closer to the b/w processing with the colored pictures? It strikes a GREAT balance of noise reduction and sharpening. And the atmosphere of those b/w images is something of its own. One shot I took on my commute on the train looks like it belongs into an artsy article about the trials of life in a top of the line magazine. And it was just a random shot with no setup (I was still testing out the camera). Really, try the b/w mode for atmospheric pictures.
But all in all, the camera performance is my least favorite in a long time. I rank all my recent predecessor phones (G4, Lumia 1050, Lumia 1020) higher for their time with the G4 (on stock Android 7) even being better overall compared directly to the Mate 10.
In all other aspects the Mate 10 kills it and is amazing. Too bad the camera is this important for me. Lets hope for a BIG camera software update soon ...
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Which firmware you are?
Firmware ist most current: 137
And I really tried much with this camera. I am really into this stuff and went a long way to get it up to better performance. I still am disappointed.
Comparing mate 9 with mate 10 both on Oreo/latest firmware.
Under low light the mate 10 is superior but that's all, under normal conditions the mate 9 provides the same if not better pictures than the mate 10 with its super duper AI which in my opinion misses the ball sometimes completely.

Question Horrible video chat quality

I own the Pixel 6 now for a few days and day by day I'm more disappointed with my decision.
In general the phone is just too heavy and thick for a 'non pro' phone. I wish they stayed smaller like in previous generations.
But what really shocked me today is the video quality of the front camera in video chats (WhatsApp in my case).
It's just super zoomed in and blurry. I look like a bearded baby. Even my 4 year old OnePlus 5 performs way better. Did you make the same experiences? Do you think this can/will be fixed in future updates?
I'm seriously considering selling it again and getting a Pixel 4a or OnePlus 9 instead, also hoping for better battery life.
There is just so many little things, like the fingerprint reader, that make this phone feel half baked and not stand up to its price tag. Are you guys happy with the purchase?
I'm happy but if you aren't just trade it for something else.
Don't hold on to something you don't like or have too many issues with.
tmrmn said:
I own the Pixel 6 now for a few days and day by day I'm more disappointed with my decision.
In general the phone is just too heavy and thick for a 'non pro' phone. I wish they stayed smaller like in previous generations.
But what really shocked me today is the video quality of the front camera in video chats (WhatsApp in my case).
It's just super zoomed in and blurry. I look like a bearded baby. Even my 4 year old OnePlus 5 performs way better. Did you make the same experiences? Do you think this can/will be fixed in future updates?
I'm seriously considering selling it again and getting a Pixel 4a or OnePlus 9 instead, also hoping for better battery life.
There is just so many little things, like the fingerprint reader, that make this phone feel half baked and not stand up to its price tag. Are you guys happy with the purchase?
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Question Question for buying this phone

I want to buy this phone but i saw that for getting good photos you need to use the pro mode. How is the camera for point&shot? How is the selfie camera vs the Google pixel?
How is the battery life?
well. "pro mode" also has 2 automatic modes so you can use that. But TBH, since f stop is fixed, all you can change is ISO or shutter speed so none non them is that difficult if you were ever using any real camera. For selfie......have no idea. Never took a selfie and never did a video call.
Battery life is better than expected but ofc depends on what you will be doing and what do you expect
avivasaf said:
I want to buy this phone but i saw that for getting good photos you need to use the pro mode. How is the camera for point&shot? How is the selfie camera vs the Google pixel?
How is the battery life?
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well I have the Purple USA version on pre-order, I did use the global version and loved the phone, battery was decent, I loved the flat screen, sd card, the LED notification, and the size, from the few pics I did take, they looked very good, but I only had the Xperia 1 IV global version for 3 days, , so I wasn`t able to put it through it`s paces for the camera, so I sent back to the seller, because it was missing some bands for 5G service here in the USA, I`m waiting on my Pixel 6 Pro to be checked in the Texas return warehouse, so they can send me a new replacement it boot-looped and hard brick, so when I get my new replacement 6 pro and when the USA Xperia 1 IV ships on the 22nd of this month I will be able to do better comparison between the 6 pro and Xperia 1 IV, but people will say if you just want to do point and shoot and not fiddle with settings the 6 pro might be the better phone for you, but I love the features of the Sony like the old days of android phones flat screen, microSD card, led notification, plus with 4K screen , dedicated camera button, and the speakers are lot louder on the IV compared to the III., selfie camera I never tried on the Xperia 1 IV, so hopefully Sony doesn`t delay the launch again for the USA version, since it was supposed to have been released on Sept. 1.
Im asking about point&shoot to get excellent results like pixel 6 pro or iphone 13 pro
I dont want to mess with pro mode
I like this phone for its flat panel and the size, battery seems to be better than pixel 6 pro, but its very important to me to take out the phone and shoot and get very good results
You may disagree with me but frankly I think you're better off shooting in Pro mode all the time. Spend the time to learn it and you'll enjoy it for ever. My 2 penny worth...
you don't have to mess with pro mode, you can select auto then set that as default mode for each time you start photography pro. And results are OK. For a phone camera. But if you prefer that artificial look of pixels, iphones, samsung and night that looks like you are on the stadium in the middle of the game than you might be disappointed.
The whole point of xperias was always to try to capture something realistic and not to have the best on the fly photoshop processing.
Guys
My point is not night mode
I want to take auto mode good photos for 1500usd it should be, but the reviews are mixed about results so i prefer real opinions of people who have it.
How is the selfie camera?
Is the phone really gets hot or they fixed it?
I have the pixel 6 pro but i hate is size, curved display, disappointing battery and no 5G in my country
But i like is goddess camera
I'll try to take some photos tomorrow with different modes but the same subject so you can judge them.
Phone does get hot mostly if you are doing 4k recordings, but don't have any experience with that. Camera is not why I got this phone. My old XZ2 was way hotter than this ever gets.
From the sound of things this phone is not for you.

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