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I know that there have already been posts about this but...... I played with my friends galaxy s - vodafone branded. Totally rubbish screen. Vibrant, oversaturated, and very very blurry - almost PSP screen blurry. It was awful, and text virtually unreadable. Then, both my parents got iPhone 4s. WOW. Screen is so sharp its beautiful. Atrix was looking great until I saw that it was RGBW rather than RGB. Why? Can anyone comment? Is it better/worse than galaxy s clarity wise? Better/worse than iPhone 4 clarity wise? Any photos MUCH appreciated. Thanks a lot
iPhone 4 > Motorola Atrix
iPhone 4 has a 3.5" screen with a resolution of 960 by 640.
Now this screen is just drop-dead gorgeous. And nobody can argue with that. It has a pixel density of 326 ppi. This is more than the human eye can see, and is thus named the 'Retina Display'
On the other hand, the Motorola Atrix is much newer and is running Android. It has a 540by 960 but a 4 inch display. This is considerably more blurry than the iPhone 4's display. It has a useless laptop dock but for $499 who will think to buy it?!?!?!?! It does not even have a proper OS on it!
Once you have used the iPhone 4 I can assure you that you will never return to the Motorola Atrix. Now if you are a gamer like me, then you need a good Applications Store. The Apple iPhone 4 has the Apple App Store with stunning applications with HD graphics. Whereas, the Motorola Atrix utilises the Android Market which has rubbish, useless, demo apps. The best application on the Android Market is probably Angry Birds, which has advertisements filling the screen and can become very buggy.
In conclusion, I believe that iPhone 4, albeit much older, is superior to the Motorola Atrix anyday. This shows how Apple remains victorious so far. Until the iPhone 5 is released.
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holy fanboy batman!
yes, the pixel density of the iphone4 is better, but i assure you it's not so great you can't see it.
Trolls Trolls
Deary me, another appolyte . iSheep these days....
You have a point with the retina display being a higher PPI. Wow. It took a genius to figure that out. I'm trying to find out how much better it is, and I really can't take a trolls word for it :/
DarkyHero,
I want to thank you, I have not had a good laugh all day until reading your post.
kartik50,
First off i'd recommend to not pay any attention to trolls with some agenda and half baked inaccurate ideas.
But, moving on, in my family we have the Galaxy S, Iphone 4 and I have the Atrix. I do find the Iphone screen to be very good, no question about it however I personally liked the Galaxy S screen better. But that was until I got my Atrix. It was then I noticed how over saturated the Galaxy S looked (and as you said a little blurry, but not by much) when putting them side by side. As far as what one out of the three are the best? I think its personal preference and all 3 (to me) look very good. I'd pick the screen of the iPhone4 1st then the Atrix second. The Atrix is very sharp and clear and I'm having no complaints.
As far as the obvious far from fact-based claim from DarkyHero about the app market on Android.. I'm sure you recognize a troll for what they are.
I guess my eyes are just weird then. My freind standing right next to me, couldn't see any of the issues I could with the Galaxy s screen. We only looked at the Touchwiz Ui 3.0 text. However, iPhone blows me away. I have a 3GS right now, so I hope that the Atrix is far far superior. On a side note, Atrix vs Xperia Play? Both on Orange Uk, update months overdue.......
iPhone 4 wins as far as displays go. There isn't another mobile device on the market with a better screen. The Atrix has the best looking screen of any Android device, unless of course you like the oversaturated samsung super amoleds. The only use case where the Atrix's screen falls short is when brightness is cranked up to max, but there is honestly no need to do this unless you are trying to look at your phone in direct sun light.
I wish we were able to save you before the Apple troll showed up. Anyway.
iPhone 4 does have a beautiful screen, however, this 3.5" screen is way too small to enjoy. Once you try a +4" screen, you won't ever go back. Moreover, Atrix has the same footprint of iPhone 4, so you won't notice any extra bulk with the significantly bigger screen.
qHD is almost same as iPhone 4's screen resolution, so there should be no worries there either. As a matter of fact, given the widescreen you'll find on the Atrix, you'll see more pixels of your movies than you normally would on iPhone 4's square-ish display.
A BIG difference between iPhone 4 and Atrix is the dual-core Cortex A9-based Tegra 2 processor; you'll get a seemless FULL DESKTOP experience when browsing the web. With Opera Mobile 11, you'll be able to have iPhone-smoothness as well.
In response to darkyhero.
Is this a serious post? Or are you just this big of an idiot? The iTurd does not have a retina display, it was just marketing hype.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/iphone-4-retina/
I one minute Google search found this.
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wow!
Something tells me dhero has never used an atrix, been an android power user, played starfox 64 on their atrix with a wiimote, or understood the walled garden of apple's for what it is: a fortress of steve jobs devoid of hacking(the good kind), pornography, and meant for people of all ages, like the 13 year old darky hero here. Judging by your blind optimism for iOS and writing, maybe steve jobs was on the money making a sanitized kids toy. Oh wait its not a kids toy it shatters like a wine glass from 4 feet. Ok, I guess he just wants your money. Every year. You cannot even swap the damn batteries out, my last smartphone lasted me 3 years with 4 batteries. And yes it got five days of solid use with an extended battery...
Ugh don’t get me started on apple and their financial brilliance(their financial success often comes at the cost of their customers, *cough* apple tax *cough*).
So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
Definitely. SGS has a 480x800 sceen. Clarity will definitely be better than that.
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So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
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I haven't seen any lag on my phone. Granted, I'm coming from a Touch Pro, so anything should seem fast buuuut...
Get Opera Mobile from the marketplace for a web browser and it clips along pretty good.
So it's not android optimization for dual core? If thats the case, then why te f.u.c.k did Moto even put on blur?!
I have two screenshots with accompanying pictures of the screen for comparison:
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1-t2i.jpg
You'll notice any solid color ends up being "checkerboarded" by the PenTile screen.
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1-t2i.jpg
The gradient was already weird (blocky?) in the screenshot, but on the actual screen it just looks terrible.
I notice the PenTile color "checkerboarding" all the time in w/e apps or videos and it is a distraction but for me it isn't a deal breaker.
Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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What is clipping?
The Atrix has a 4" display with 540 x 960 resolution. This is higher pixel density than almost every other phone on the market except the iPhone 4. The iPhone, however, only has a 3.5" display, and once you have used a 4" display for any length of time (or even a 3.7") it is very hard to loose that extra space. It is the highest resolution and pixel density android phone available (except for that Sharp one in Japan that is an NTT DoCoMo exclusive and uses the same display Sharp supply to Apple).
PenTile is laid out RRB GGB so you have RGB, just two lots of each. Unless you are insanely fussy about screens, you will not notice. Plus it will look better than most other screens purely for having a higher pixel density.
I wouldn't worry about it being PenTile. Have a look at this http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4 .
Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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What do you think will be the answer in the Xperia S general forum
For me personal the XPS, because I really like the phone and software experience despited I have swapped my phone due to the yellow spot issue...
Now on the new one have to wait for the latest FW update .73 which solve the battery drain issue too...
Other then that a great phone with amazing screen/design/camera/sound which of course is subjective
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Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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I'd disagree - One X has slightly better camera and better display. Difference in camera quality isn't that obvious until you start shooting photos in low-light conditions, where HTC's very bright lens (f/2.0) starts showing its true potential, while Xperia S tends to leave excessive amount of purple noise (see my camera shoot-out between both). When it comes to the display - yes, Sony has better pixel density and image is exceptionally crisp, however HTC's display is better for browsing web, viewing photos, videos etc. and also has excellent viewing angles (which, as we know, isn't great in Xperia).
HOWEVER, as I currently have both One X and Xperia S, and I need to ultimately decide which one to keep as my default smartphone for the next 1-2 years, I'm leaning towards Xperia S after all. HTC has received exceptionally positive reviews around the web but personally I wasn't that impressed (my review will be up at coolsmartphone sometime next week). It still looks soooo HTC'ish, it's fairly chunky (albeit thinner and lighter than Xperia!), I still don't like HTC Sense that much (yet v4.0 is fairly ok) and finally I struggle to feel these "4+1" cores it supposedly has. Yet, it is pretty snappy in day-to-day usage, on par with Xperia S I'd say, however there are noticeable UI lock-ups that still happen occasionally. Especially after prolonged and heavy use, for example, if I spend too much time in Chrome Beta browsing websites, or view too many photos/videos in Gallery etc. launcher process is apparently restarted and reloading it takes 8-10 seconds! Really annoying and nothing anyone would expect from the phone bearing such spec. Another thing which annoys me in HTC is on-screen keypad, nowhere near as good as Sony's, especially when it comes to gesture input and autocorrection handling.
Don't get me wrong, HTC One X is really good device, in many ways much better than Sony Xperia S, however I feel slightly better while using Xperia after all, even if some of its hardware bits aren't as good as they could be.
I own both phones and as far as I can tell, xperia s is more responsive and stable than htc one x. Battery lasts longer as well.
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I own both phones and as far as I can tell, xperia s is more responsive and stable than htc one x. Battery lasts longer as well.
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In my case battery's better in HTC, however my Xperia is still running .67 and draining juice as hell, hoping .73 fw will fix it as some people reported.
I got the xperia s at launch and love it. Got the One X as an upgrade as its the phone I can get the most money for. took the sim out of the S, put it In the one x and used it for the day........loved it! The one x is much better all round apart from battery life. My sony smartwatch drained the **** out of it! One X is boxed up ready to sell. **** battery has cursed the one x, its like the desire all over again. Xperia S ftw!!!
I used both. Sold Xperia S and got HTC One X. Not sure if I can hold on it longer.
Lot depends on your preferences. I am biased towards Xperia designs. They look so unique and stylish to me. HTC phones haven't changed much in their curved corner looks that reminds me of a cow tongue.
1. One X seems to feel more well built and sturdy than S mainly because it's thinner and has no removable back cover.
2. S display is awesome but One X is not bad either.
3. S USB cover idea is terrible.
4. S capacitive buttons needs some getting used to.
5. Both camera's are good enough for phones.
I think it all comes down to you personal satisfaction. I am already thinking to sell my One X after another week or two and consider either Xperia S in white or P. I just love the Xperia's lean and clean ROMs and user interface and designs.
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I used both. Sold Xperia S and got HTC One X. Not sure if I can hold on it longer.
Lot depends on your preferences. I am biased towards Xperia designs. They look so unique and stylish to me. HTC phones haven't changed much in their curved corner looks that reminds me of a cow tongue.
1. One X seems to feel more well built and sturdy than S mainly because it's thinner and has no removable back cover.
2. S display is awesome but One X is not bad either.
3. S USB cover idea is terrible.
4. S capacitive buttons needs some getting used to.
5. Both camera's are good enough for phones.
I think it all comes down to you personal satisfaction. I am already thinking to sell my One X after another week or two and consider either Xperia S in white or P. I just love the Xperia's lean and clean ROMs and user interface and designs.
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Yeah, very well said. Both phones are pretty capable hardware-wise (HTC maybe a little bit more), both have certain strengths and weaknesses, hence difficult to pick a clear winner here. I guess personal preference would be main factor here for anyone.
You should also consider the HTC One S.. It's like an improved Xperia S on a One X body, the only thing wrong with it is the qHD Pentile SAMOLED screen, personally, me moving from a Samsung Wave won't make a difference, if Pentile doesn't bother you, pick the HTC One S, it's the fastest phone on the market thanks to the Snapdragon S4 chipset, GSMArena said it's the best music phone, and it has the same camera as the One X, with a better design.
XPS no doubt around that, screen and camera cant be compared.
Xps is a way better in that.
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thanks every1, was myself inclined towards xperia s cause of the design, cud not find a single place to check out htc onex so had to ask for reviews
200 € difference in price did it for me.
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Yeah, very well said. Both phones are pretty capable hardware-wise (HTC maybe a little bit more), both have certain strengths and weaknesses, hence difficult to pick a clear winner here. I guess personal preference would be main factor here for anyone.
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Well that is always subjective to the reviewer or user and is always biased
I don't agree with you about browsing and videos (HD) this one is for me personal a clear winner and about the viewing angles that's a non brainier.
I always look straight to screen Then we have the unique human eye which plays a part too for every user lol
Reviews show camera on HTC beeing slightly worse than Xperia,
actually HTC made it quite mediocre.
Some videos also show browser stuttering.
I believe quadcores are not optimized yet in full.
Design of Sony is IMO ahead as well as UI which looks more clunky on HTC.
I have Xperia S myselt. Also I used One X quite a lot. One X has a lot of advantages before the Xperia S. Screen is a lot more bigger if you compare two devices. Also i like the colors more on the One X. It has ICS with Sense 4 UI from the box and that thing is just awesome even though Sony did a great job to the GB making it look very good too. The camera is even more fast on One X and photo quality is not bad at all. The speaker is louder on the Xperia S. You cant forget about Tegra 3 platform which is very good in terms of graphics/perfomance. Also there are a lot of custom roms for One X and they make it last for 3 days without charge in medium usage level. Also it feels monolith compared to XPS which constists of several parts with all these covers and transparent panels. Maybe you dont need that much out of a mobile phone, but yes, the One X is better choice if you put away the fact that it costs a lot more then Xperia. If I haven't bought the Xperia I'm sure i would buy the One X instead. But now personaly I don't see many reasons for changing my device.
Oh and the white One X with its huge screen is just simply amazing. You definitely have to take a look at it for yourself.
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I have Xperia S myselt. Also I used One X quite a lot. One X has a lot of advantages before the Xperia S. Screen is a lot more bigger if you compare two devices. Also i like the colors more on the One X. It has ICS with Sense 4 UI from the box and that thing is just awesome even though Sony did a great job to the GB making it look very good too. The camera is even more fast on One X and photo quality is not bad at all. The speaker is louder on the Xperia S. You cant forget about Tegra 3 platform which is very good in terms of graphics/perfomance. Also there are a lot of custom roms for One X and they make it last for 3 days without charge in medium usage level. Also it feels monolith compared to XPS which constists of several parts with all these covers and transparent panels. Maybe you dont need that much out of a mobile phone, but yes, the One X is better choice if you put away the fact that it costs a lot more then Xperia. If I haven't bought the Xperia I'm sure i would buy the One X instead. But now personaly I don't see many reasons for changing my device.
Oh and the white One X with its huge screen is just simply amazing. You definitely have to take a look at it for yourself.
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Well I don't like a bigger screen so easy choice
Lol my youngest Son updated his brand new Sensation Beat to ICS guess what beside some
cosmetic stuff he didn't noticed a lot of difference between GB and ICS ;-)
Not to mentioned the extra strain on the battery through ICS, still the weak point of all mobile phones...
Here in Canada I have decided to go for the XPERIA S. Mostly because I like the aestetics of the Xperia a lot more. The One X would look nice, if it didn't have that bulge where the camera is. That (in my opinion) was the major deal breaker.
The XPERIA S costs $499 Canadian here and the One X is rumoured to be $620. Albeit that the One X has a better processor and includes LTE, it wasn't what I wanted. If I were to get the One X, I would get the black LTE version, and only the white LTE version is coming to Canada.
I should have the XPERIA in my hands Tuesday, Unless I happen to come across an Black LTE One X (for cheaper), I'm staying with the XPERIA.
I've got both, Xperia S first. I'm used to sense and really like it so I missed having it. The screen on the Sony is crisper but the HTC is very clear also. I much prefer the widgets on the HTC to the Sony.
For me the One wins hands down but only because I like sense and because I had a hd2 for two years I'm biased
Don't get me wrong the Xperia is a lovely phone,just not for me.
As some of you mentioned,It's down to personal preference.
Good luck with whatever you decide
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I love my white xperia s. I get so many 2nd looks from people at work. But I'm really wanting to try out the one x. I have nothing against the xperia I just have an addiction lol. So if anybody has a one x they wanna trade let me know
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prefer the Experia S
I have both a HTC One X and the Xperia S.
I had the One X backordered and then my iPhone4 died.. so I bought the Xperia to tide me over until my One X arrived. Like one of the other posters I am quite partial to HTC sense having owned an HTC Desire HD, and a Sensation previously. But I bought Fancy widgets pro and was able to enjoy the best parts of the Sense experience on the Xperia S.
My One X finally arrived a few days ago, and after setting it up and using it for one day... I have decided to sell it and stay with the Xperia. I do like ICS but guess that it will be here soon... but there was nothing that I found that superior on the One X to make me want to keep using it.
Hi, first of all I've to say sorry because my English is very poor
Since april I've had a simfree Xperia S, with bootloader unlock allowed (I haven't done it yet, including root or any mod)
There are two things that I don't like from the XPS:
-ICS is very laggy
-The battery isn't removable.
I usually stay away from my house the entire day, and I like watching films or series in the phone, so by the end of the day I always run out of battery and I need to carry with a USB portable battery and keep it connected for hours to recharge the phone.
With the galaxy nexus, I can buy the extended battery and carry with the stock one so when the extended is empty I can swap the batteries and begin at 100% again
The other thing I like from the Galaxy Nexus is the amoled screen, because of the better viewing angles than XPS and the bigger size when playing video
The two things I don't like from the Galaxy are the too low 16gb of storage and the GPS (I don't know if it is bad, but sure it isn't as good as the XPS)
And at the other hand, Nexus will be always up to dated with android version, and we don't know if XPS will be updated to 4.1
If you want a Nexus, wait for the new one(s) released this fall.
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If you want a Nexus, wait for the new one(s) released this fall.
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I don't want to pay a lot for it and this fall the new nexus will be very expensive and I will have to wait for about 6 months more.
I don't have to pay anything for trading my xperia s with a galaxy nexus.
Use a different launcher and the battery is removable if you really need to remove or replace it.
But not for regular use as anthon needs !
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I don't want to pay a lot for it and this fall the new nexus will be very expensive and I will have to wait for about 6 months more.
I don't have to pay anything for trading my xperia s with a galaxy nexus.
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There is likely to be a series of Nexii, so you should be able to find something that suits you.
Please take note that galaxy nexus has on screen time of about 3hour plus only, while Xperia has higher on screen time.
Charging portable battery is easier than charging additional battery?
Xperia has a better rear camera while nexus has better front camera. Lol
Both phone are using outdated hardware, does it even matters?
At least in my country, Singapore, xperia s is certified for nfc payment while nexus isn't. (only xperia s, p, s3 and Samsung advance plus)
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I have both GN on JB and XS on GB (forget about ICS, too many problems for me)
Although GN is extremely smooth and battery last much longer under normal use ( 2 days vs 1 day max) the AMOLED is really suck.
Yes, the view angle is incredible, the black level is top notch, but the image quality is very disappointing, color is not accurate, pen tile makes image blurry/ not sharp.
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Finally I think that I'm going to keep my XPS until the new nexus
I will try the MIUI and Cyanogen Roms
Thanks to all for your help
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I have both GN on JB and XS on GB (forget about ICS, too many problems for me)
Although GN is extremely smooth and battery last much longer under normal use ( 2 days vs 1 day max) the AMOLED is really suck.
Yes, the view angle is incredible, the black level is top notch, but the image quality is very disappointing, color is not accurate, pen tile makes image blurry/ not sharp.
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I think you have a defective unit chief, my fone also has the pentile s-amoled screen but images are CRYSTAL CLEAR, no blurry images & Hd video is a joy to view.
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Hi, first of all I've to say sorry because my English is very poor
Since april I've had a simfree Xperia S, with bootloader unlock allowed (I haven't done it yet, including root or any mod)
There are two things that I don't like from the XPS:
-ICS is very laggy
-The battery isn't removable.
I usually stay away from my house the entire day, and I like watching films or series in the phone, so by the end of the day I always run out of battery and I need to carry with a USB portable battery and keep it connected for hours to recharge the phone.
With the galaxy nexus, I can buy the extended battery and carry with the stock one so when the extended is empty I can swap the batteries and begin at 100% again
The other thing I like from the Galaxy Nexus is the amoled screen, because of the better viewing angles than XPS and the bigger size when playing video
The two things I don't like from the Galaxy are the too low 16gb of storage and the GPS (I don't know if it is bad, but sure it isn't as good as the XPS)
And at the other hand, Nexus will be always up to dated with android version, and we don't know if XPS will be updated to 4.1
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The screen on the Galaxy Nexus is not that great. Sure you get better viewing angles but lower ppi, crappy whites, pentile, and image ghosting. I bought both phones and ended up sending the Nexus back. I just can't stand Samsung.
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I think you have a defective unit chief, my fone also has the pentile s-amoled screen but images are CRYSTAL CLEAR, no blurry images & Hd video is a joy to view.
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Pentile sucks man, I am sorry. My buddy has a Nexus and compared to my Xperia S the screen is not nearly as clear. Viewing the web on the Nexus is not very good as text isn't crisp unless zoomed in.
Also battery isn't that great on the Nexus either, if you view alot of internet it will drain much faster than the Xperia S.
I thought the same thing when coming from a galaxy nexus. Now that I'm running CM9 FXP132 I live this phone! Performance is incredible and my battery life doubled!
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Keep the Xperia S
First of all....the XS display is absolutely brilliant...even better than S3 display.Look at the 2 screens in the same time and you will notice the difference.Xperia S display colors are more real and the black is really really black.And is also the ppi intensity.Is better on Xperia S!The CPU on Nexus is significantly poorly than Xperia`s S!Even overclocked the score at megaflops doesn`t equal the score obtained by Xperia S CPU.And we have for the Xperia S a kernel oc-ed to 1,9Mhz!The camera on Xperia S makes perfect pictures!12 mpx > 5 mpx on Nexus.I don`t know about the GPU`s on both of the devices but the games on xperia s runs very well.The only advantage on Nexus is the removable battery and better technical support!overall except the lack of technical support the Xperia S is a better(technical and look)phone!
You're asking this in an Xperia forum lol bias is everywhere. Each device has its pros and cons. Personally if I had the option, I'd go for the Nexus, but if you can hold off until later this year as K900 said, you'll be in for a big improvement.
GN vs XS on xperia forum doesn't mean bias, if you got no comparison, GN is brilliant, i came from GN (now my GF is using it), switched to XS.
i had no complaint about GN before switch, i got lots of complaint after making the switch for both.
XS = laggy UI, laggy UI and laggy UI, man the spec is better but why laggy?
GN = wow the screen sucks big time, colour, sharpness (not due to ppi but pentile) and burning (ghost and shadow and stupid burn and much more)
if you use it everyday, the screen is where you are looking at everyday when using the phone. although XS LCD is a tad old fashion (why not IPS like iphone), switch from XS to GN will be your biggest mistake. if you are coming to a decision which phone you should buy then it depends
(smoothness and update = GN , design, camera and screen = XS)
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GN vs XS on xperia forum doesn't mean bias, if you got no comparison, GN is brilliant, i came from GN (now my GF is using it), switched to XS.
i had no complaint about GN before switch, i got lots of complaint after making the switch for both.
XS = laggy UI, laggy UI and laggy UI, man the spec is better but why laggy?
GN = wow the screen sucks big time, colour, sharpness (not due to ppi but pentile) and burning (ghost and shadow and stupid burn and much more)
if you use it everyday, the screen is where you are looking at everyday when using the phone. although XS LCD is a tad old fashion (why not IPS like iphone), switch from XS to GN will be your biggest mistake. if you are coming to a decision which phone you should buy then it depends
(smoothness and update = GN , design, camera and screen = XS)
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Yeah I agree completely, my buddy who love is Galaxy Nexus has been complaining about the screen ghosting lately. Also the Xperia S is not laggy if you install a custom rom for it. Mine does good work.
YES you should.
If you're not satisfied with the phone you have now, then let it go. Questioning whether to replace it or not will just make u see more and more bad things about it. So why keeping it? And chances are, you will not be satisfied with Nexus either. You see people here are the kind to get any phone they want, stick to it and make the most of it.
You must remember, Reality Display color is more natural than Super Amoled (overcolour)
if you are to replace your sxs, do it with a newer gen s4 processor. otherwise, you wouldn't feel much difference.
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You seemed more suitable for iphone though
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Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
anonapersons said:
Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
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Your expectations were too high in regard to the black value on the ZXU. The Notes all have amoled, thus the pixels are nearly off when displaying black. Mind you, this is the only screen tech that offers that. Super LCD, IPS, Triluminos don't have that. It's a well known trade off. What you get back in return is better color reproduction, better sharpness, etc. The black value is by no means bad, not different from most televisions actually. A lot of reviewers call the ZXU a mini Sony Bravia TV and that is exactly what it is.
I reckon your eyes really need to get used to the ZXU display, which requires extensive time and movie watching. This makes sense if your eyes have been accustomed to the Note line for a long time now. I have the Note 2 as well and I find the greys/black not that good to be honest, as the contrast doesn't seem to work that well. A lot of times scenes are too dark compared to reference material.
The ZXU remains a marvel, I suggest you spend some more time with it and report back in a while :good:
anonapersons said:
Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
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Yup, Gideon is pretty much straight on here. I came from a Galaxy Note so I was used to an AMOLED panel, and let me tell you that I was quite shocked. Deep blacks (in the dark)? Nope. Aaand that's pretty much it. The Note display was darker and more saturated, and I was pretty much surprised when I got the Ultra, except I wasn't.
AMOLED displays do not have a backlight, so black will actually be black. Black will be turned off.
LCD panels do have backlights, so black will still have a backlight, only the light will be dimmed. It's the same thing as your TV. The Ultra uses LED. So yeah, the Ultra is pretty much a Bravia TV.
Audio, yeah... It's not very good. Don't forget that the Ultra is waterproof so the speakers have a membrane that makes it waterproof.
Camera: No flash so it won't take great photos in the dark or even inside your home, bit it's not that bad once you're outside in the daylight.
Overall, the Note 3 is a more "all arounder", but you're paying a lot for a luxury item that doesn't feel like it's what it is. It feels like a plasticy...thing. The Sony is a luxury item that does a lot, but it also feels like a luxury item. It's incredible big, but you also feel that you've paid for a quality glass and aluminium product.
- Note 3: Big plastic phablet
- Z Ultra: Huge glass and metal phablet
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I just sold my note 3 and ordered zu gpe I loved the phone but locked bootloader killed it for me cant wait to try this phone!
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I just sold my note 3 and ordered zu gpe I loved the phone but locked bootloader killed it for me cant wait to try this phone!
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Just dumped my day one note2 and ordered stock sony version last night Samsung was driving me crazy with the knox crap lol.
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Just dumped my day one note2 and ordered stock sony version last night Samsung was driving me crazy with the knox crap lol.
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Same here... Love the big screen on this beast.
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I, too, traded in a Note 3 for a Z Ultra, but I bought the Google Play Edition (and of course I bought it a little over a month before they dropped the price to $449). I couldn't be happier with this thing. My only real gripes are:
1. The camera sucks in low light.
2. The headphone jack is on the side. That placement makes it awkward sometimes when I put the phone in my pocket while going out for a walk.
3. I absolutely HATE that anti-shatter film that's on the front and back glass. For starters, it scratches if you look at it (just like any screen protector does), and the oleophobic coating that they put on the front rubs off within the first 3 or so weeks. I would remove it, but I don't really care enough to waste the time, plus you need a razorblade to do it and I don't like getting razorblades anywhere near my phone. This also says nothing of the fact that removing the film also voids your warranty.
These are all pretty minor complaints in the grand scheme of things, at least when I consider my own needs in a phone. When it comes to the important stuff, this phone excels. The hardware is top shelf, it's fast, stock Android runs amazingly well on it, the screen is gorgeous, and it's really the perfect size for me. :good:
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I, too, traded in a Note 3 for a Z Ultra, but I bought the Google Play Edition (and of course I bought it a little over a month before they dropped the price to $449). I couldn't be happier with this thing. My only real gripes are:
1. The camera sucks in low light.
2. The headphone jack is on the side. That placement makes it awkward sometimes when I put the phone in my pocket while going out for a walk.
3. I absolutely HATE that anti-shatter film that's on the front and back glass. For starters, it scratches if you look at it (just like any screen protector does), and the oleophobic coating that they put on the front rubs off within the first 3 or so weeks. I would remove it, but I don't really care enough to waste the time, plus you need a razorblade to do it and I don't like getting razorblades anywhere near my phone. This also says nothing of the fact that removing the film also voids your warranty.
These are all pretty minor complaints in the grand scheme of things, at least when I consider my own needs in a phone. When it comes to the important stuff, this phone excels. The hardware is top shelf, it's fast, stock Android runs amazingly well on it, the screen is gorgeous, and it's really the perfect size for me. :good:
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If Z2 Ultra is indeed an oversized Z2, all your complaint will be gone (except maybe the camera, but 13mp one would not hurt just like T2U) then that would really ring my bell..
about headset placement, actually i think i like it on the side. Because the device itself is longer than any general pocket available, so when the jack comes in, it might very well be outside the pocket. Plus when you play it landscape, nothing protrude from the side, hence easier handling. Plus some Bluetooth Companion wouldn't hurt (in fact such device is promoted from the start to be used with XZU)
I came from a Note 1 (GT-N7000) and at the time it was basically price between note 3 and z ultra. The ultra was $100 cheaper and I had a buyer for my N7000 so I went ahead and got the Z.
I agree with the following:
1. Amoled is a superior display, no doubt. However, the 6.4" vs 5.7 makes up for it.
2. Unlocked - I have changed carriers twice since owning this phone. If I bought the t-mobile Note 3, i'd be out of luck (the model I was previously leaning toward), or at the least, had to pay a fee to unlock it.
3. Camera is an absolute joke. I don't take many pictures like the OP, but the ones I do take are just horrid in low light.
4. There are issues with sony software. I get crackle in my text messages, and the phantom touch issue is there sometimes. However, i'd rather have these issues than be faced with KNOX. Plus, I know sony will address the issues eventually.
In the end, i'm glad I got the z ultra over note 3.
Z Ultra
Well, I also just bought the Xperia Z Ultra and as soon as I finished updating and arranging most things, I came here for some extra search for extra work that needs to be done with this device! I am also an owner of the Xperia Z (yuga/C6603) for more than a year and since I had enough to complain issues with it, I was a little bit puzzled about how the big brother Ultra was going to perform! As it has been mentioned, and that's the reason I am posting in this thread, I was between 3 devices including Samsung's Note 3 and LG's G Flex! The reason I didn't go with the Note 3, despite the perfect screen and the faster and bigger RAM, and among the 4K camera capabilities, was that as soon as I hold it in my hand I knew it wouldn't even compare to the Z's quality I've been using for quite long! The plastic leather-alike back cover was quite a lot slippery after you have used the device enough to sweat your hand! Also a drawback I could also see was that its 5.7" display looked tiny next to the G Flex and the Ultra for me, so as to be consider a phablet! It actually felt more like a normal phone like anything else with a little bit oversized screen. And then came G Flex which also astonished me with its design and curved build but I could spot a huge difference in the 720p display next to the Note 3 and the Ultra! I adored though the design and the 32gb built in storage but those couldn't be enough for me to purchase it! I also didn't like so much the coating on the back cover, which also feels and is slippy straight out of the box, although I think it is supposed to be some kind of self healing coating to help with shallow and/or light scratches. After some minor tests I was able to make in a store that had them all for customers to see and play with, when I reached the Ultra and hold it in my hand I knew it was the device I would after all buy since its build quality and its exceptional slim design made me looking around like a retard :laugh: !! So, to end up with, after experiencing these three phabs the weight up of pros and cons for each had come and despite all the camera capabilities both G Flex and Note 3 had over the Ultra the price tags pointed which deserved to be bought, considering what it offered and it could't be anything else than the Ultra! For the records, I bought it in purple(cuz i couldn't find yuga back in 2013 in purple and i was craving for it ) in the awesome price of 325 euros with the G Flex costing 425 euros and the Note 3 being at the price of 460 euros! As it is obvious, I could't even a second think for a reason to spend over 100 euros forone of the other two! After 4 days of heavy usage and insanely lots of recharges I am extraordinarily amazed to find out that Sony has done everything that hasn't for the yuga! No more lags, no more UI glitches, no more stuttering animations and no more scrolling problems within every day apps like Chrome! The only cons I was able to notice that do disappoint me are:
1. Sound quality or at least one more speaker like the one it is already on device would be perfect! (I am searching for sound mods now, hope to find sth good)
2. The camera sensor could have been the same with the Xperia Z (13MP) with a LED (though I wont be taking any pictures with any phablet for now)
3. I would expect a bigger battery, although it has convinced me to be fair enough despite its small, for the screen's size, capacity
4. The phantom touch issue is a bit annoying from times to times
5. The screen should be a a little more dimmer for outdoors use
To conclude with, I'll always find it a lovely device, with great network speed, excellent performance, excellent build quality and excessively excellent and gorgeous design! I hope I made a good choice to choose the Ultra over the other two, but even if I didn't I am still more than a hundred euros richer to consume on accessories!
PS: I was amazed to find out the time I was unboxing that the magnetic dock DK30 was included in the box for free! I really didn't expect that and I was really pleased to find out that Sony saved me about 25 euros for spending on sth else!
I came from the Note 3 and the Note 2 I had before that.
I agree with the removable battery thing, but honestly, battery life is able to last me throughout the day unless I'm heavily using it, so I haven't really been in a bind yet in that regard.
I also agree with the speaker. Flash the sound boost mod, it's mandatory IMO. I've attached it for you. It's like night and day, honestly, but I've found it's a louder boost on 4.3 than it is on 4.4, which is one reason I haven't updated to KitKat. But, if you are using the ZU mainly for media consumption, what are you doing not using a bluetooth speaker!?!? I waited a long time to get one and shouldn't have waited. I researched a lot, pick up an Arctic S113BT off Amazon. It's aptx, got NFC, louder than the Jambox, and 3x less expensive ($40). Only thing that's annoying is the BT audio/video syncing that's always a bit off 90% of the time you first turn it on. Needs some closing of programs and going back to the homescreen to get it to sync up sometimes. I just have the speaker next to me when I'm watching my shows now, it's made everything more enjoyable.
Your gripes and analysis pretty much echoed mine, you'll really get to love the device after a little more time (I should be a rapper, mad rhymes).
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Well, I also just bought the Xperia Z Ultra and as soon as I finished updating and arranging most things, I came here for some extra search for extra work that needs to be done with this device! I am also an owner of the Xperia Z (yuga/C6603) for more than a year and since I had enough to complain issues with it, I was a little bit puzzled about how the big brother Ultra was going to perform! As it has been mentioned, and that's the reason I am posting in this thread, I was between 3 devices including Samsung's Note 3 and LG's G Flex! The reason I didn't go with the Note 3, despite the perfect screen and the faster and bigger RAM, and among the 4K camera capabilities, was that as soon as I hold it in my hand I knew it wouldn't even compare to the Z's quality I've been using for quite long! The plastic leather-alike back cover was quite a lot slippery after you have used the device enough to sweat your hand! Also a drawback I could also see was that its 5.7" display looked tiny next to the G Flex and the Ultra for me, so as to be consider a phablet! It actually felt more like a normal phone like anything else with a little bit oversized screen. And then came G Flex which also astonished me with its design and curved build but I could spot a huge difference in the 720p display next to the Note 3 and the Ultra! I adored though the design and the 32gb built in storage but those couldn't be enough for me to purchase it! I also didn't like so much the coating on the back cover, which also feels and is slippy straight out of the box, although I think it is supposed to be some kind of self healing coating to help with shallow and/or light scratches. After some minor tests I was able to make in a store that had them all for customers to see and play with, when I reached the Ultra and hold it in my hand I knew it was the device I would after all buy since its build quality and its exceptional slim design made me looking around like a retard :laugh: !! So, to end up with, after experiencing these three phabs the weight up of pros and cons for each had come and despite all the camera capabilities both G Flex and Note 3 had over the Ultra the price tags pointed which deserved to be bought, considering what it offered and it could't be anything else than the Ultra! For the records, I bought it in purple(cuz i couldn't find yuga back in 2013 in purple and i was craving for it ) in the awesome price of 325 euros with the G Flex costing 425 euros and the Note 3 being at the price of 460 euros! As it is obvious, I could't even a second think for a reason to spend over 100 euros forone of the other two! After 4 days of heavy usage and insanely lots of recharges I am extraordinarily amazed to find out that Sony has done everything that hasn't for the yuga! No more lags, no more UI glitches, no more stuttering animations and no more scrolling problems within every day apps like Chrome! The only cons I was able to notice that do disappoint me are:
1. Sound quality or at least one more speaker like the one it is already on device would be perfect! (I am searching for sound mods now, hope to find sth good)
2. The camera sensor could have been the same with the Xperia Z (13MP) with a LED (though I wont be taking any pictures with any phablet for now)
3. I would expect a bigger battery, although it has convinced me to be fair enough despite its small, for the screen's size, capacity
4. The phantom touch issue is a bit annoying from times to times
5. The screen should be a a little more dimmer for outdoors use
To conclude with, I'll always find it a lovely device, with great network speed, excellent performance, excellent build quality and excessively excellent and gorgeous design! I hope I made a good choice to choose the Ultra over the other two, but even if I didn't I am still more than a hundred euros richer to consume on accessories!
PS: I was amazed to find out the time I was unboxing that the magnetic dock DK30 was included in the box for free! I really didn't expect that and I was really pleased to find out that Sony saved me about 25 euros for spending on sth else!
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Very nice post, and welcome!
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Very nice post, and welcome!
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Thank you a lot my friend! Nice to be in such a community, although I am not quite new as of time concerned! On the contrary, it is such a complete this community I really hadn't to create an account to participate! Everything I ever searched for from the times of galaxy ace back to the '06s! Awesome work from anyone here! ??
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Thank you a lot my friend! Nice to be in such a community, although I am not quite new as of time concerned! On the contrary, it is such a complete this community I really hadn't to create an account to participate! Everything I ever searched for from the times of galaxy ace back to the '06s! Awesome work from anyone here! ??
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So you're a lurker becoming a poster. Good stuff!
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So you're a lurker becoming a poster. Good stuff!
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I'll try!
Hello,
I'm currently an owner of an S3 . I've been wanting to upgrade for some time now and I just can't decide what to buy.
I love the M8, but the camera is so awful that I am just not ready to pay a flagship-phone price for a phone like that. (my old s3 beats m8's camera (!!) )
I loved the G3 too , but reading in the GSMaren's review how bad its battery is (aside from 3G talk time , it really isn't that different than my ancient S3 in terms of its battery life which is just ridiculous! )
The Z2 has a boring and an outdated UI which is just a shame for a 2014 phone.
But , its battery ,camera, overall performance are superb. At least compared to its rivals. (Though it seems that the screen is rather dim and dark compared to the S5 and M8).
But my main concern , is that Video shooting and overheating issue.
I don't need to record videos in 4K. But as far as I understand the the overheating issue occurs even when shooting an 1080p video, and that's a problem.
Does 1080p shooting cause the overheating and camera app shut down for everyone?
If you really think the UI is "boring and outdated" (really?!) it is easily remedied with any launcher of your choice..
Regarding the overheating issue, I have been recording 12 minute 4K videos (it shut down by itself) and 30 minute 1080p videos (I stopped recording, I could have gone longer the phone was warm but not hot at that point) without any issues.
That being said, based on what everyone on here has been saying my experience is not the same as most.
At the end of the day mate, it's a mobile phone. You don't have much to lose picking this over one of the other flagships.
Have you seen the phone in person and used it? I read a lot of reviews complaining about the brightness but when I got it I was quite surprised I could use it in daylight with no issues. As for the UI you can alway use a launcher or themer to change the look of the phone, as for the 4K video recording it seems to be an issue across all companies I think it's probably being an issue of the hardware not being at that level yet. I am hoping that there will be a software fix for the overheating issues. I'm not sure if you are in the US but there are sellers who are Amazon verified once in a while that will let you do no hassle returns if you dont like it. I was really impressed with the phone but ended up returning it because it was a bit too big for my tastes but I am planning on buying it again when the prices go down. Good Luck!
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Have you seen the phone in person and used it? I read a lot of reviews complaining about the brightness but when I got it I was quite surprised I could use it in daylight with no issues. As for the UI you can alway use a launcher or themer to change the look of the phone, as for the 4K video recording it seems to be an issue across all companies I think it's probably being an issue of the hardware not being at that level yet. I am hoping that there will be a software fix for the overheating issues. I'm not sure if you are in the US but there are sellers who are Amazon verified once in a while that will let you do no hassle returns if you dont like it. I was really impressed with the phone but ended up returning it because it was a bit too big for my tastes but I am planning on buying it again when the prices go down. Good Luck!
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One thing for sure when the price reduces the phone will NOT reduce in size
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Somnium1 said:
The Z2 has a boring and an outdated UI which is just a shame for a 2014 phone.
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I would have to disagree with you here. The Z2 has a beautiful elegant UI IMO, one of the best Android "skins" aside from stock Android on the flagship devices. I've owned the One M8, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 3, and this is my favorite device by far.
I had...well,still have a z2 (its in for repair, after three days of light use the back panel cracked).
I did want to like it, but a few things missing from it that I missed from previously having Samsungs. Yes the ui is cleaner,closer to stock android but the the features of Touchwiz for me, make android better.
Like the swipe left to call/right to text.... Vibrate when there is an unread text, scheduled text messages, block numbers etc.
Ok, apps can be installed to mimic most of these but arnt as fluid as the built in features of Touchwiz.
Also had issues with the volume of notifications and screen brightness in the sun.
Great looking phone tbh, but have a play properly with a demo unit before committing.
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Does 1080p shooting cause the overheating and camera app shut down for everyone?
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What is the ambient temperature where you will be shooting ?
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ProdigalFather said:
Regarding the overheating issue, I have been recording 12 minute 4K videos (it shut down by itself) and 30 minute 1080p videos (I stopped recording, I could have gone longer the phone was warm but not hot at that point) without any issues.
That being said, based on what everyone on here has been saying my experience is not the same as most.
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It isn't from what i can see and i'm trying to figure it out.
Go on then. Tell us what was the ambient temperature when you recorded those vids ? particularly that half hour long 1080p one.
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One thing for sure when the price reduces the phone will NOT reduce in size
Ryland
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Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
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Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
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Get the Z2 tablet.
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Get the Z2 tablet.
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Haha I have an iPad already (don't judge!) like having a different eco system...We'll see hopefully I can hold out of the Z3 or Sony releases something similar in the 4.7 - 5 range.
As of now the Z2 is the best phone I've used compared to the S5 and the HTC One M8 but everyone has different preferences and tastes
I wrote a FULL REVIEW of the Xperia Z2 here - http://bit.ly/1kPjBJP
Read it and i'm pretty sure you will make up your mind easier.
One Twelve said:
What is the ambient temperature where you will be shooting ?
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Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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It isn't from what i can see and i'm trying to figure it out.
Go on then. Tell us what was the ambient temperature when you recorded those vids ? particularly that half hour long 1080p one.
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Around 11-13C for both.
Any Middle east user out there? How is the heat problem with z2 as ambient is around 45+ C
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I'm reading answers here and it's very annoying to see some of them...
Most of us choose one brand and stick to it, why?
Just because we found something on that brand that cannot be found on others.
To compare touchwiz and Sony UI is... Hmm...let's say odd..
Why to compare?
I like Sony UI and I'm using Xperia devices, for years.
I don't like touchwiz so I don't use it.
Sony UI isn't outdated, dev brought UI on XS and older devices back in 2012/2013 but it wasn't meant to be for those devices.
Sony UI (new UI) was built for Honami, for Z1 and that's not old guys...
I thought I won't buy Z2, I own Z1 and Z2 now and I can't tell which one is Z2 from distance...so, yeah, there's not much new when you look device while it's off.
But...
When you take Z2 in your hands, when you feel it, when you see that fantastic IPS screen - you'll see the difference.
While I'm talking about screen I'll say just a few things about heating, not overheating.
If you watch 4K video or shoot one, play heavy games - it'll be hot, quite hot but there'll be no apps crashing or device freezing - that's the difference between heating and overheating.
That's perfectly normal and I'm sure next update will reduce that a bit...
Also, screen is a bit dark and you'll have trouble to watch video outside on bright sun.
You won't see problems in menus and other apps but video is hard to watch...
That's minus, at least for me...
But that's something next firmware releases could fix without any problems.
Even custom kernels could fix something like that...
If you can wait, wait for next Xperia device, it'll be better, that's for sure.
But comparing this device with Z/ZL/ZR/Z1 I can say this is not just a better device, Z2 is something new from Sony...
Believe me, I'm using Z1 at the same time and comparing them all the time - Z2 is really, really something else...
Is it better then competitions flagships?
For me it is but if you like Sony and their ideas it'll be best for you as well...
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Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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Wait for a new update and we'll confirm if that heating is fixed.
55 has that problem and I think next one has it to (I think it's 402 or 420, I'm not sure) so next firmware update could fix that problem.
Wait for that and you'll know...
BTW, I just tried to shoot 1080 / 60fps video.
I recorded 3.20mins and played it, so it's almost 7 mins of 1080p videos and no heating at all.
Device is just a bit warmer (top back) but that's nothing.
It's not hot at all....
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I have the M8 and Z2. The screen on the Z2 is brighter than my M8.
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jawang26 said:
Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
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A suggestion. If you have the Z1 compact as your mobile phone and desire on times a larger viewing area I would skip the Z2 and go for the Xperia Z Ultra. Prices are incredibly low now and its one hell of a viewing experience. I own the Ultra and Z2 and think the Ultra is certainly better quality in terms of materials used and construction methods. Nothing wrong with the Z2 but I was some what surprised when I received it last week. I used to own the Xperia Z and that was, despite many negative comments, a very good phone. I am unsure if the jump in size from the compact to the Z2 would be worth the financial outlay. Now the Ultra has a far greater viewing area and its less than half the price of the new Z2.
Again, just some food for thought. Your choice will be right for you I am sure of that. Good luck with what ever you purchase.
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Why I like the Xperia Z2 over other competitors (Galaxy S5, One M8, G3). Below are just my personal opinion and observations. I have used my Z2 for 3 weeks now. This is my first noob review so please bear with me.
Camera
I was disappointed when I first heard that Sony limited its Superior Auto mode to 8MP only, I admit Im one of the people who believes more megapixel the better, but I was wrong. Even at 8MP, Z2 captures amazing shots, HDR is not as great as Galaxy S5s HDR shots, but as a whole camera, its better. Color accuracy is near perfect as I have compared through reviews. 4K video, although it heats up the phone quickly, I dont often use them. 1080p video recording is great, with a choice of 30fps or 60fps, sound is loud. Shots are fast and focus is 90% hit. Dont mind about HTC One M8's "Ultrapixel", they shoot awful shots.
Battery
3200mah Z2 vs 3200mah G3? G3 with QHD screen undoubtly will eat up more battery that Z2's FHD screen. Galaxy S5's 2800mAh and HTC One 2600 will normally never last longer than Z2. Rocking the phone for 24 hrs is a piece of cake. Dont forget Sony's Stamina mode that saves up a significant amount of juice.
Screen display
Although many people have been complaining about Z2's screen a bit dim. In my opinion its not too dim or too bright that I have to squint to see what im looking at. In my observation, Z2's brightness bursts from 75% and above. Previous flagships use TFT LCD and that was a big deal breaker for me. I could have got the Z1 if the screen was IPS. Texts and icons are sharper and brighter. Images are more vivid and accurate. Coming from Galaxy S4, I am used to those AMOLED displays, downside is that its not as sharp as IPS LCD, plus X-Reality does the job well done to movies and pictures (sharper and more vivid). As for HTC One M8, screen is comparable to IPS, but gives a bluish tint as I have read. Imagine yellows with blueish/colder colors.
Stereo Speakers/Sound
HTC is undoubtly the champ. But we are pinning Z2's dual front facing stereo speakers at 2nd, ahead of Galaxy S5 or G3 with one speaker. Sound is a bit soft/low even at 50%. You wont even notice a significant change from 1%-50% volume. Volume bursts from 50% and above. Thats just my opinion. Theres a little bit of trick with Z2's speakers to sound great or at least better. Watching movies or listening to music in landscape greatly improves the audio experience. Its probably because sound is distributed well to your left and right ear.
Noise-cancelling headphones
Its my first ever high-end earphones ever had. I was amazed how it cancels out 98% of background noise. And its 0 outside noise when im playing music. I couldnt even hear my friend shout at me. Bass is good, im not a boomboom person but I think its better than my GS4 generic headphones, or my Sony MDR ZX100. Definitely a steal.
Design/Build Quality
Coming from GS4, im loving my premium Z2. The glass and metal finish it has over Samsung's plastic, and horrible GS5 design, GS3 was good though. M8s design is good too, but that camera and battery . G3 is a bit big for me, and the back buttons are something that needs to get used to. Although heavy (Z2), Im getting used to it. Im using Spigen Ultra Fit case for increased grip and protection. I believe its a must for cases because the sides of the Z2 is kinda slippery. And I dont wanna scratch the back glass, lol.
User Interface and features
I find Z2 a wee bit lacking of features, like Touchwiz S-Beam. Palm tap to mute, especially calls and alarm and Smart Stay. Nevermind smart scroll and Air view stuff, they are hardly useful. The Sony UI feels light, not much bloated than Samsung. And it doesnt lag!! Unlike Samsung. Generally speaking. The UI is simple and snappy, though personally I feel its getting old/outdated. Needs to freshen up the icons and apps. With the new Quick Settings tab under notification, its a big improvement from older android versions with only limited and un-editable quick settings
Conclusion:
Coming from Galaxy S4, I am not disappointed that I ditched GS4 for Xperia Z2. With the screen improved from TFT LCD to IPS LCD, with 2 front facing stereo speakers, with the much improved camera than the previous Z1, the premium noise cancelling earphones, a premium phone made with glass and aluminum, water-proof, and ofcourse the massive 3200mAh battery. You cant go wrong buying the Xperia Z2.
Upon writing this lousy review back from a fresh shower, I just dropped my Z2 (with case ofcourse, 2nd time) from shoulder height to the floor tiles, and survived. Not a single scratch or crack.
I came from the SIII and certainly don't regret it. My main concern was the size. Whilst I have got used to it, it definitely is not pocket sized. In fact, ignoring weight and thickness it is the same size as my first ever mobile, the Ericsson Hotline EH97! Ok, the screen is a bit larger
On the plus side, the biggest improvement is the battery. I always struggled to get one day out of the SIII but get a day and a half comfortably now.
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Somnium1 said:
Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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How long do you want to shoot 1080p ? Also if you don't use stabilisation then it will last longer. But this may not always be an option you want.
Not a problem for those that shoot at half the temperature.
The thread on undervolting looks promising. There apparently is a difference with .420, maybe they will lower it further in future updates.
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funky0308 said:
While I'm talking about screen I'll say just a few things about heating, not overheating.
If you watch 4K video or shoot one, play heavy games - it'll be hot, quite hot but there'll be no apps crashing or device freezing - that's the difference between heating and overheating.
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Sounds like a fair way to draw a distinction
People tend to use it in a relative way though, this other device does not get so hot so Z2 gets hotter than them therefore it overheats.