Can we talk about how bad the Pie update on poco? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

After i saw the pie miui update in system update, i immediately update my poco from oreo to pie immediatelly, thinking the update would make my poco even better, but no i was wrong, i ended up regretting udpating it, wished i stayed on oreo. Here's what the issues I'm facing on pie:
1. You can't disable the notch in settings anymore
2. 30-40% of the time when you use the home gestures to go home, the launcher is refreshing for some reason and it took me 2 seconds to wait my launcher to load
3. The recent apps animation is sluggish and not smooth compared to oreo animations
4. When you use the recent apps gestures then you immediately clicked on other apps, it doesnt go to the app immediately, but instead you must wait like 1 second, then you will able to click on other apps, in oreo it's instant, in pie its not, you must wait for it load 1 second for some reason
5. Performance is slightly worse compare to oreo, i can confirm this by playing pubg, i used to play pubg on HDR with ultra framerate settings on oreo as it is smooth on oreo, but on pie, i can feel its slightly has a lower framerate than on oreo. So now i have to play on smooth with extreme framerate settings in pubg on pie
6. We all know geekbench is a lie, yes i have a higher score on pie than oreo, but i can confirm that is BS. Pie on poco doesn't have a better performance than oreo on poco
7. Batterly is slightly worse than on oreo. When im on oreo, when i play pubg even with HDR settings, i can play a lot longer than on pie, i can truly feel im using a 4000mah battery when im oreo. But when im on pie, i feel like im using a 3000mah battery phone when im playing pubg. It drains the battery more than when im on my oreo
It's kinda weird why no one talking about this. As i assume you guys have never received the pie udpate or what?

Hi.
Finally somehas the same issues. I thought it is only my phone. I used it with xiaomi.eu developer rom but experienced the same lags. I dont do games. But I can confirm the same slowness when returning to homescreen. Sometimes it took 5-10 seconds to return to the homescreen. Now I am on pixel experience rom. The antutu score is much lower. But the overall experience is much smoother. Are you on the official 10.1 stable?

@w1040 - 1. is a nuisance, though natchonotch sorts it out
Aside from that, I haven't seen the other issues you list, though there wasn't really any user facing good stuff in the pie update - bit of a let down

mad.droid said:
Hi.
Finally somehas the same issues. I thought it is only my phone. I used it with xiaomi.eu developer rom but experienced the same lags. I dont do games. But I can confirm the same slowness when returning to homescreen. Sometimes it took 5-10 seconds to return to the homescreen. Now I am on pixel experience rom. The antutu score is much lower. But the overall experience is much smoother. Are you on the official 10.1 stable?
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Yes im on 10.1.3.0 stable. Im really dissapointed with the pie update, it makes poco experience slightly worse than on oreo.

thesoupthief said:
@w1040 - 1. is a nuisance, though natchonotch sorts it out
Aside from that, I haven't seen the other issues you list, though there wasn't really any user facing good stuff in the pie update - bit of a let down
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Why do i wanna install a third party notch hider rather than just using the built in notch hider in setings that is now sadly gone

Well, They still won't fit the notch.
Don't know what they're thinking anymore.

2, 3 and 4 are the worst parts, such a turn off to use miui. Additionally, discarding notification, you can only swipe to the right as to the left opens a menu, which is also annoying. The transparent theme is also annoying and UI as a whole feels sluggish. I was impressed by Oreo when I first got the phone, but really hate pie, so Im sticking to lineage OS as I like it way more.

1. nacho notch will do the trick. I read somewhere in fhe forum that google asked to remove the hide notch feature. Not sure about the veracity of the claim.
The rest of the issues is not present on my phone.

I'm so disappointed in this phone it was overhyped by too many sources. I'll just buy a used flagship next time.

My sd845 just for calling and messaging purpose, disappointed with poco software and the poco dev...

And everyone is forgetting no more full screen gaming.
And screen recording creates black bars on 3 sides with different widths.
So damn annoying.
The only stuff that goes full-screen now is YouTube just the inverse of what was the case on oreo, all apps were full screen except for YouTube.

Can anyone help me disable Screen Pinning? The worst problem I'm facing right now. I accidentally tap the pin and I have no idea how to get out. A nice popup tells me to press back and recents at the same time. But that doesn't work with full screen gestures nor with buttons - mirrored or not. The most frustrating update. Period.

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Touch latency in Oreo

After updating my V30 to Oreo I noticed very quickly that there are a lot more touch latency specifically in the Settings app. It makes the phone feel less responsive. You have to drag the finger several mm before it starts moving when swiping while it was pretty much instant on Nougat. Most horrible is the Play Store app. No one else noticed this? Actually thinking about downgrading to Nougat since this is a pretty big issue for me personally. I want my phone to feel as responsive as possible.
dannejanne said:
After updating my V30 to Oreo I noticed very quickly that there are a lot more touch latency specifically in the Settings app. It makes the phone feel less responsive. You have to drag the finger several mm before it starts moving when swiping while it was pretty much instant on Nougat. Most horrible is the Play Store app. No one else noticed this? Actually thinking about downgrading to Nougat since this is a pretty big issue for me personally. I want my phone to feel as responsive as possible.
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Nope. Don't notice it. I own five V30/V30+, using Nova Launcher.
You took partial image OTA or flashed full KDZ image?
What V30 OTA or KDZ are you using?
Are you using a custom ROM? Or stock firmware? If rooted, did you flash the "no root checker" file?
What launcher are you using?
Took full image OTA to Oreo and did a factory reset afterwards. Launcher doesn't matter since it does not affect that. It's mostly the settings app they have changed the latency of but not all menus etc. I guess some don't notice in the way some don't notice screen issues for examples. But it's there. No root pure stock except Nova.
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Downgraded to Nougat and the touch latency is so much better in the settings app. There's this annoying scrolling delay in Oreo. Can't stand that stuff it makes the phone feel cheaper as it's less responsive. the P20 Pro had this too until they fixed it in an update. I dig in the settings quite a bit so it disturbed me. I'll stick with Nougat for now.

Stock or Custom ROM?

I bought my Redmi Note 5 (which happens to be my first Xiaomi phone) a week ago and I gotta say MIUI is much better than I expected. It's pretty fast and has a lot of features and the camera app is fine. I want your opinion: Is LineageOS or other custom ROMs worth it for this device? I have a pretty good amount of experience with custom ROMs but I was wondering if I would be missing out on anything if I switch to a custom ROM. Is the camera app as good as/better than the MIUI camera app? Does it have PROPER manual mode? Do I still get slow motion, portrait mode front and back, and other cool stuff? If not, can I flash a camera app for that? I have a billion questions that can be answered with your opinion and a link to a ROM you like, if any.
Thanks for your time!
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langster- said:
I would go for MIUI 10 , most of the roms here are just the same vendor rom with lots of bugs and then overlays on top.
Basic things are missing or broken like proper fingerprint reading/swiping, Gcam is rubbish and only kind of works, they have volume issues with both speakers and headphones, screen brightness problems, heating issues, wake lock issues, no mms with mobile data turned off, no treble support because they didn't bother fixing the vendor rom, fast charge issues, no voLTE and updates are few and far between.
Now recently we have Android P and it is rubbish, laggy broken no camera, no voLTE all the same vendor issues.
And LineageOS rom is broken with all the same problems and more.
Sorry to dissapoint but we really lucked out on developers with this device.
At the moment, things may change, but MIUI 10 has it all over every custom rom here.
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MIUI 10 is still in beta though, right? I guess I'll have to give it a month or so. I'm currently running MIUI 9.5.19 and the system update app says I'm good.
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Zambiemambie said:
MIUI 10 is still in beta though, right? I guess I'll have to give it a month or so. I'm currently running MIUI 9.5.19 and the system update app says I'm good.
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9.5.19 is for note 5 global so this forum is not for your device. You have to go note 5 pro forum (it's pro only in India, Chinese and global are both note 5 without pro)
jes0411 said:
9.5.19 is for note 5 global so this forum is not for your device. You have to go note 5 pro forum (it's pro only in India, Chinese and global are both note 5 without pro)
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That's weird. The XDA app landed me here ?
langster- said:
yes but it is stable beta and Oreo, i wasn't even considering Android Nougat in this conversation, it is just too old :laugh:
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MIUI 9.5 is based on Oreo 8.1 for me. And isn't MIUI 10 based on Pie 9.0?
See @langster-Posting -
Forum can rename itself in Bug-Forum - never see before . . . sooooo many Bugs concerning important Points (Wlan, LTE, Sound and and and)
Stay with Miui and look forward to Updates ...
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langster- said:
I would go for MIUI 10 , most of the roms here are just the same vendor rom with lots of bugs and then overlays on top.
Basic things are missing or broken like proper fingerprint reading/swiping, Gcam is rubbish and only kind of works, they have volume issues with both speakers and headphones, screen brightness problems, heating issues, wake lock issues, no mms with mobile data turned off, no treble support because they didn't bother fixing the vendor rom, fast charge issues, no voLTE and updates are few and far between.
Now recently we have Android P and it is rubbish, laggy broken no camera, no voLTE all the same vendor issues.
And LineageOS rom is broken with all the same problems and more.
Sorry to dissapoint but we really lucked out on developers with this device.
At the moment, things may change, but MIUI 10 has it all over every custom rom here.
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Using RR and have none of your named problems. No Wakelocks, though there is a Netlink problem happening randomly when flashing, but ez reconnect battery and it's fixed. Luckily I never faced that bug.
Also Gcam Mod is amazing, pictures are as good as in MIUI Camera.
RAM management is way, waaaay better than in MIUI, no crashes, no lags, no hot reboots.
Battery Life is the same, can't point out a difference.
No screen brightness & heating issues either. The sceen burn was a wrong driver in DarkAges Kernel, as far as I understood it.
Running in RR and can highly recommend to get rid of MIUI, then you can unleash the full power of your phone !
Same goes for Liquid Remix. None, really NONE of the problems discribed above occur. WiFi is superb, gcam works without a single hiccup, sound is great, battery life is even better than on MIUI.
I don't understand why so many people put so much hate on custom roms for Vince, you just have to search for the well maintained roms and not for the ones that gets an initial release and then be abandoned by the devs (aka the indian teenagers that clone complete repos and just put their name on it)
I'd rather prefer MIUI, ive tried almost every custom ROM. My internet connection keeps dropping, im unable to play Clash Royale and other online games, the connection drops. The only fix is to DEGRADE the connection type to 2G within the mobile network settings.
Pixel experience is good
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langster- said:
Agree I don't think the devs can figure these minor bugs out and even worse they all seem to be sharing the same buggy base crap and just putting custom roms on top of it.
I installed 10 custom roms and they failed in all the same "features"
And watch out for Dark Ages kernel unless you want to cook marshmellows on your phone while charging!
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it's the best of a bad bunch, yes.
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here you go install the latest liquid remix https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OLDYzHYUI_wZgbzzDc3vwYMJejPmUOk0/view
- the rounded corners! look how big they are ROFL, a joke or what?
- high battery consumption
- high RAM consumption
- unstable WiFi
- heating on normal use and charging
- force close apps (back button), dont work
- battery saver color dont change
- no mms with data turned off
- swipe fingerprint for notifications not working
- no fast charge
- speaker and headphone volume too low
please don't spread lies.
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i install latest, round corner not a big deal.
the rest i didnt face that issue what ur saying
no force close
mms fine
fp superb
fast charge
ram way better
battery superb
no heating issue in any rom
maybe ur phone didnt want custom ?
and hes not lying as i say maybe ur phone got something ?
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langster- said:
here you go install the latest liquid remix https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OLDYzHYUI_wZgbzzDc3vwYMJejPmUOk0/view
- the rounded corners! look how big they are ROFL, a joke or what?
- high battery consumption
- high RAM consumption
- unstable WiFi
- heating on normal use and charging
- force close apps (back button), dont work
- battery saver color dont change
- no mms with data turned off
- swipe fingerprint for notifications not working
- no fast charge
- speaker and headphone volume too low
please don't spread lies.
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I have it installed of course, otherwise I couldn't talk about it, huh?
- Rounded corners are okay, I like them. That is no bug, that's the decision of the dev.
- Battery is decent, 10+ hours of SoT.
- RAM is no problem, never under 1000mb free
- Never had ANY problem with WiFi. Check your router.
- Heating? What is heating for you? Never ever had more than 40°C, even when playing PUBG.
- Force close on back key works on smart bar. Use that.
- Fast charge works fine, see attached Screenshot.
- Speaker and headphone are fine, what the f* do you expect from a PHONE?
Well, I think you are the one spreading lies here, nearly everything you have mentioned above simply isn't true. Maybe you should switch to iOS if you cannot setup your android device properly.
End of Talk.
langster- said:
the top corners are so rounded it cuts off the clock, you can't see that or you don't want to see that ROFL
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i see a little bit black in top of round corner i know its not fitted but not big deal for me you can adjust corner by yourself by editing value and overall is fine and dont spread lies for what you are experiencing.
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Yeah, nice, a thread by you which is a complete rip off of blacksuans thread for pie. You are my hero for today. Applause. ?

Notifications disappear after a few seconds

I have notifications enabled but they disappear after a few seconds, is that normal behaviour?
MIUI version stable 10.0.5.0(ODTMIFH) Global version.
Yes. They disappear and then the clock appear.
antonioli84 said:
Yes. They disappear and then the clock appear.
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This is really weird, more coming from Android One... Why have a small notch if you don't take advatage of the remaining space?
I'm even regretting a bit of the purchase, seeing that Honor 10 doesn't have that behavior in addition to having already Android 9 Pie. I just hope that the roms like Pixel Experience or Lineage 16 stabilize fast, and in a month or two make the change of Rom.
It is very good mobile at a great price, but details such as these greatly impede the experience.
I did some reading about the lack of notifications. There are a lot of complaints about this, but I think they will come. If your phone is unlocked you can install a custom notification file, that will bring back your notifications. For notifications in the Official Stable version we will have to wait.
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This is really weird, more coming from Android One... Why have a small notch if you don't take advatage of the remaining space?
I'm even regretting a bit of the purchase, seeing that Honor 10 doesn't have that behavior in addition to having already Android 9 Pie. I just hope that the roms like Pixel Experience or Lineage 16 stabilize fast, and in a month or two make the change of Rom.
It is very good mobile at a great price, but details such as these greatly impede the experience.
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My wife has the 8 Lite but I have a Poco and the notch os huge. Even being like that it's possible to adjust thing to put the clock and the three notifications icons there. The 8 Lite has so much space.

Need a simple piece of advice regarding this phone

I have ordered a Poco F1 recently. Yet to get my hands on.
Help me with the following please:
1. Read that updating Miui causes more trouble in Pubg like more ghost touches & aim stuck. So should i not update it at all ?
2. How do i check if my screen bleeds or not ? Heard nvt-ts panel does not bleed.
3. Read flashing magisk slows down phone a little bit. Is it true ?
4. If I think of flashing custom rom. Which rom is best for pubg with no ghost touches ?
5. Time & again i come across on youtube videos that all issues are gone regarding phone. How true is that ?
The Hardware is good now (from what i've heard).All roms are pretty good.
It's almost one year since i've got my hands on poco.I never noticed the display bleed unless I saw videos on youtuber's complains. Mine do bleed at the bottom, but that's very minimal and I never expected perfect phone for this price.
My display does not have any other problems.
The MIUI does get screwed up after few updates.The poco was on par with my friend's one plus 6t in terms of gaming at purchase (MIUI 10) but lately it heats up and lags a fair bit.I Unlocked and flashed roms.
I tried custom roms and finally fixed with pixel experience plus[9.0] for now, lags are gone and i play PUBG at smooth and extreme fps settings and it runs fine for 2+ hours the is see minor stutters and heat around camera.Which is totally fine as the OP6T also heats after mine does.
As per Magisk yes/No some say it slows down performance but nothing slows down your phone more than GAPPS ,So you are good to go. Try various roms and custom kernel combos.
Really happy with my purchase. Will change this phone after 2 more years.
Nit.in said:
It's almost one year since i've got my hands on poco.I never noticed the display bleed unless I saw videos on youtuber's complains. Mine do bleed at the bottom, but that's very minimal and I never expected perfect phone for this price.
My display does not have any other problems.
The MIUI does get screwed up after few updates.The poco was on par with my friend's one plus 6t in terms of gaming at purchase (MIUI 10) but lately it heats up and lags a fair bit.I Unlocked and flashed roms.
I tried custom roms and finally fixed with pixel experience plus[9.0] for now, lags are gone and i play PUBG at smooth and extreme fps settings and it runs fine for 2+ hours the is see minor stutters and heat around camera.Which is totally fine as the OP6T also heats after mine does.
As per Magisk yes/No some say it slows down performance but nothing slows down your phone more than GAPPS ,So you are good to go. Try various roms and custom kernel combos.
Really happy with my purchase. Will change this phone after 2 more years.
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Could you please highlight what are the basic difference between PE+ and PE ? I flashed PE+ but didn't find any "more customization" as told
How to add multiple face to unlock miui latest (10.3.8.0)
And how do I switch split window while using full screen mode(no navigation button)?
YasuHamed said:
Could you please highlight what are the basic difference between PE+ and PE ? I flashed PE+ but didn't find any "more customization" as told
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Actually the customisations are just 'long screenshot' and better 'theaming'.
Here have a look at this small video by out fello POCO user which explains clearly:
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How to add multiple face to unlock miui latest (10.3.8.0)
And how do I switch split window while using full screen mode(no navigation button)?
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Unfortunately all face unlocking solutions I've come across could register only one face data.
And split window is accessible in the multitasking activity page ( top left corner If my memory serves right )

Should I Update To One UI 2 / Android 10?

I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ Snapdragon on AT&T. Currently on android 9 / one-ui 1.0 / kernel 4.9.112-17018887 / build PPR1.180610.011.G965U1UES7CSK2 / December 1st 2019 security patch
Considering letting it upgrade further, notably to One UI 2 / Android 10
I've seen some stuff about memory leaks? I'm worried about getting locked into a bad upgrade that will make my phone worse
What's the consensus? Are the current builds for Snapdragon stable?
Also, will I lose access to any features / apps? I was very pissed off when the previous update to the camera got rid of Pro Video mode permanently, am I going to lose features like that in this new update?
I did the update few weeks ago and I have to say I'm really disappointed. Maybe it's just my case but my phone slowed down really hard. I have to wait a few seconds to unlock my screen, apps are shutting down randomly on their own, everything looks like the phone is under some hard throttling. I'll only add that I have no root, and my ROM is OFW.
Cheers
Best is to stay with Oreo like I do. Best decision ever. No missing features and no ugly UI
You guys are nuts. 2 ui has been awesome on my device. I get 5 to 6 hours of sot on a 2 year old device. The ui is not ugly between good lock and a few other things fully customized how I like it. I don't know about pie features. So I don't know if something's missing. But there are no complaints on my end from a g9650
true that. 2 ui has been great on my s9+. no problems at all. everything is nice and quick, no slowdowns whatsoever.
but i guess it depends on how one uses his phone and what kind of apps and settings keeps on it.
too many variables to mention.
Yeah definitely. 10 is every bit as good as pie or better. UI is a slightly more refined. There are always people out there that say these updates ruin their performance and battery life but I never see what they are talking about, they also never offer up any proof of their claims. Just want something to complain about I guess.
I recommend upgrading to one ui 2.0, my S9 feels a lot snappier and more refined, also the camera is improved especially the HDR. And the added screen recording feature is very useful.
In my opinion it's not that great, they've changed things that didn't need a fix and added few bugs for that
Camera quality in my case is actually worse than on a9
I don't know about the battery, honestly feels the same
Didn't also slow down or anything, but sometimes everything just feels wanky
Waiting now for OneUI 2.1, hoping they'll fix those things otherwise I'm going to be disappointed as hell

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