So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. I've been noticing signal issues vs my previous cheapie Samsung J7 and now can't get wifi calling or mobile hotspot to work. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
I am not familiar with Metro, but I suspect much like ST that their ToS do not allow tethering. It is also doubtful you have native tether with a carrier branded phone. Rooting is pretty easy if you have a PC, quality USB cable, and patience to read and follow the very well written WTF guide, link below. Switching to either stock US998 or an AOSP rom will get you tethering. Liquid Remix is well-regarded by many.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
jsteve01 said:
So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. I've been noticing signal issues vs my previous cheapie Samsung J7 and now can't get wifi calling or mobile hotspot to work. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
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cmrntnnr said:
I am not familiar with Metro, but I suspect much like ST that their ToS do not allow tethering. It is also doubtful you have native tether with a carrier branded phone. Rooting is pretty easy if you have a PC, quality USB cable, and patience to read and follow the very well written WTF guide, link below. Switching to either stock US998 or an AOSP rom will get you tethering. Liquid Remix is well-regarded by many.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
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That is my frustration. I get 5 gigs of mobile hot spot included every month. So It's a loss not to have it. Would rooting improve signal strength. I'm certain it's an LG software issue rather than hardware.
My service is over Verizon's towers so it is hard to give you a firm answer. What I can say is that the open market US998 is rated for service on ATT. US998 firmware will rid you of the carrier dongles and bloat. That said, there are some quirks about signal strength and sms for some cross-flashing cases. Hopefully someone in the know will comment for you. You can also browse the WTF forum.
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That is my frustration. I get 5 gigs of mobile hot spot included every month. So It's a loss not to have it. Would rooting improve signal strength. I'm certain it's an LG software issue rather than hardware.
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jsteve01 said:
So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
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You sure H931 is carrier unlocked? If so, then it's probably already been flashed to US998... That's the way most carrier unlock the H931.
Converted to US998 it will work on T-Mobile/Metro just fine.
You don't need to root, if you don't want.
Well the reason I posted the thread was because yes I have been able to activate it, but my signal is far worse on this flagship phone I'll be at a year-and-a-half old then it was on my Cheapo three-year-old Samsung j7. LTE Discovery doesn't even show GSM on this phone for me. And as I said I can't get any wireless hotspot.
Any idea why I'm not showing any gsm signal on lte discovery?
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Well the reason I posted the thread was because yes I have been able to activate it, but my signal is far worse on this flagship phone I'll be at a year-and-a-half old then it was on my Cheapo three-year-old Samsung j7. LTE Discovery doesn't even show GSM on this phone for me. And as I said I can't get any wireless hotspot.
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I would Frankenstein it to US998. You'll get rid of the AT&T bloatware.
Also make sure it's on LTE/HSPA/GSM mode not global mode or something.
It doesn't even show gsm signal. Wish I would have done more research on which variant to buy because it sounds like this att version won't even accept aosp
How do I make sure it is on LTE/HSPA/GSM rather than global?
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How do I make sure it is on LTE/HSPA/GSM rather than global?
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I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
What do the hardware and software info tabs show in Setttings>System-About Phone?
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I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
I suspected as much. So you have a carrier dongled phone from ATT and are surprised/frustrated it doesn't work? What the j7 does is not relevant
Forgive me for being terse, but you have all the information at hand to decide what to do.
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
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I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
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I have excellent signal.
Let's forget about custom ROMs for a minute. Let's try to improve your signal. Installing custom ROMs is another discussion altogether and has nothing to do with improving your signal, getting LTE or anything. There's nothing in custom ROMs that will improve signal strength to my knowledge. It's using the exact same radio firmware as stock.
You are on 1-year old Nougat firmware, not the latest most recent available. I would recommend converting to carrier unlocked "open market" US998 firmware -- which is designed to work with ALL North American carriers, while the H931 is designed to work with AT&T -- and then updating to US998 20G (January 2019 security patch). It's the only way you are ever going to be able to update your firmware -- yes, which has newer modems.
You can do that, see if your signal improves -- then you can decide if you want to unlock bootloader and root. Yeah, to unlock bootloader you would have to then temporarily downgrade back to 20A or 20B, but I really want to keep this discussion focused on signal strength for now.
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
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I have LTE Discovery and use it all the time. I have never seen this "GSM Window" you keep talking about. Are you saying you saying you on not LTE or HSPA at all?
What does it show under the "Signals" tab? Give us a screenshot. It should show LTE or HSPA and show dBm signal strength. It should also show closest tower distance and GPS coordinates and how many satellites are available. (I have 12 GPS satellites available with less than 3 meters accuracy.)
Also, when you do a speed test, what is your speed?
These are not my screenshots, it's from another thread where someone was having problems. I just wanted to show you the "Signals" tab I'm talking about...
Mine looks exactly like the screenshot that you posted. So you see there's an LTE chart on the left and a GSM chart on the right? That's what I'm referencing. So I guess my question would be how can I update now that I've got an AT&T phone on Metro
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cduvvaRRmfUj1hX6A
Sorry for some reason it wont let me post my link.
That said thanks. To all of you for your help
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Mine looks exactly like the screenshot that you posted. So you see there's an LTE chart on the left and a GSM chart on the right? That's what I'm referencing. So I guess my question would be how can I update now that I've got an AT&T phone on Metro
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But GSM isn't going to show anything, unless you're on GSM. What does LTE show?
The only way you're going to update is to Frankenstein convert to carrier unlocked variant like US998 that has public KDZ releases , which you flash with LGUP. H931 doesn't.
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Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
I would like to know as well
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There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
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There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
Common sense isn't all that common
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Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?
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Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizon runs on CDMA and lte, tmo is GSM and lte... But most phone now by law must run on all available technologies... Bandwidth might be off a little, but for the most part have to be compatible... This is why, when in network settings, it gives options for CDMA, even though tmobile can't use it... It all has to do with the deregulation of cell service laws they passed a few years back... In layman's terms, they have to allow phones and networks to be compatible (1) for e911 services, and (2) for phone and carrier portability.
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Zdeuce2, WCDMA is not the same as CDMA. It is a 3G technology used on GSM networks. The CDMA equivalent is (was?)EV-DO and later, SV-DO.
Unless Verizon has moved on from CDMA as a whole for voice (they might have, I'm not sure) then compatibility will be questionable.
@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").
siraltus said:
@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").
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Well, then I was mistaken... Lol. Thank you for the corrections...
Common sense isn't all that common
The answer is yes, a T-Mobile LG V10 will work on Verizon. However, Verizon actively black lists any phone that is not purchased directly through Verizon. Purchasing an iPhone at an Apple store often runs into this exact same issue. Verizon's poorly trained customer service reps are unaware that Verizon has transitioned to all calls, text and data across LTE in major cities and most outlying areas and insists that the T-Mobile H901 must run on CDMA to connect (false), H901 is not compatible simply because the Verizon employee is told to say so by corporate.
I had filed a complaint with the FCC. Verizon issued a generic response saying that all of "Verizon's" phones are unlocked from purchase and that only approved Verizon devices will function on their network. The FCC was satisfied with this generic response and closed the case. If the FCC continues to receive these complaints, eventually they will make a move in our favor.
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Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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You're on the updated marshmellow Verizon V10 than id assume? Since root was achieved for the Verizon v10 but only for LP.
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Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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No, it is not possible, because the T-mobile variant does not have CDMA modem/radio.
Not possible, as others have stated, if it was a Verizon on T-mobile yes because it has both CDMA & GSM radios, T-mobile variant is lacking that CDMA radio.
Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
Like you, I tried the mixed bag of techniques posted across forums to get VoWIFI going on my US998. I have also crawled hidden apps using Shortcut Master. Although there were glimmers of hope, none of the methods gave positive results.
I do have a pair of identical V30's and have thought about doing a side-by-side comparison to see if I can find the difference. One might be the Settings app itself. The bottomline is that I just don't have the time anylong to go down these rabbit holes and my will to battle with LG is attenuating rapidly. I do not need VoWiFi but HotSpot is a must so I am mostly content using the stock US998 Oreo rom.
BTW, if you want unthrottled hotspot bandwidth on Verizon, go into the APN settings on the phone and switch both APN Protocal and APN Roaming Protocol to ipv4. Then switch the ttl from 64 to 65 on any computer or device that will connect to the hotspot.
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Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
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Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Windza said:
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
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Aaaaaand... the result is unsurprising. I know some folks were reporting anecdotal improvements after flashing the VS996 modem into US998 but I'm not seeing notable difference from where I was already at.
I was on US998 20e and flashed modem from VS996 20f but no luck... last resort is to try US998 20h and VS996 20k but I'm not holding my breath.
No matter what I override in the background, the consistent element on the US998 is the two switches in the attached s/shot are grayed out and unable to be toggled on (even though their equivalents in the background are on).
As soon as I flash a VS996 ROM, these switches can be toggled to get things working.
I will be of no help... But I'm definitely interested in this!
I've got US998 running vs996 stock pie with full functionality of Hotspot and vowifi. One thing I noticed when debloating my install was that removal of the Verizon phone app would cause the phone to not boot, so my guess is their app is one of the pieces of the vowifi puzzle.
Has anyone tried running Verizon phone app on a US998 Rom?
I am in the exact same boat.
Currently running US998 on Verizon VS996 only for hotspot. I also tried to get VoLTE running via https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76613814#post76613814 but no luck. Was able to get the Verizon app to run but it didn't help with VoLTE. Possibly because I'm on a corporate plan so I don't have many options available in the app. Also missing RCS messaging features which I had on VS996 ROM, but maybe I need to try the "beta versions of Messenger" trick.
I also tried copying the HotspotProvision.apk and odex from US998 to VS996 rom but no luck there either.
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM,
* (Unauthorized Verizon) Hotspot works flawlessly
* but (Verizon) VoWiFi does not
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have
* (Verizon) VoWiFi working but
* Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message. (Because you're not paying for that Verizon hotspot service)
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
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See my parenthetical comments.
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
Whereas on US998, Verizon has no control over how you use your data. You get "free" tethering feature on US998 firmware.
But on US998 Verizon still has control over whether to grant Wi-Fi calling to devices on their network, and they decline to do that. Control freak Verizon makes you be on Verizon firmware for Wi-Fi calling to "encourage" you to buy their hardware (even though you didn't).
T-Mobile doesn't care and grants Wi-Fi calling on US998. So, it's not "Wi-Fi calling" issue -- it's a Verizon issue.
The difference between the two "ROMs" is one is based on firmware certified by Verizon and the other is not.
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Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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Get a V30. Heck, get a V30+! You can have tethering, maps, phone calls on US998. What you cannot have on US998 firmware with Verizon SIM card is Verizon Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile allows it, but Verizon doesn't. But you still get phone calls.
My sister and brother-in-law are both on US998 firmware (former LS998 V30+) on Verizon and they both get VoLTE.
$110 for mint US998 V30+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99830a000704-kdz-t3952256
ChazzMatt said:
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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To add to the confusion -- this is from the Verizon Pie TWRP-flashable zip ROM thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...lg-v30-joan-vs996-verizon-30c-t3974139/page13
Teldin2 said:
Has anyone had any luck provisioning the hotspot on the stock image? I've tried several methods with no success.
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PerCompLLC said:
No issues at all with me. I use it every day! Worked out of the box.
Sent from my VS996 using Tapatalk
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EDIT: Never mind. He has unlimited data.
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Windza said:
a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked)
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My brother-in-law (who could sell snow to Eskimos) and my sister recently switched from AT&T to Verizon with two former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. NOT bootloader unlocked. Just stock phones.
Yes, "US998" with Oreo 20h are carrier unlocked phones (with CDMA and LTE band 13), but I know you need an already-activated Verizon SIM card. Verizon is NOT going to activate a SIM card on former Sprint LS998 V30+...
But my brother-in-law found a store rep willing to help. The guy said, "They will tell you this phone doesn't work on Verizon, but it does." He activated two SIM cards for them, let them go drive to their neighborhood and test them out. They are switching to Verizon because the upscale neighborhood they are moving to has an AT&T black hole. Only Verizon works there. (Even AT&T microcell doesn't work well, because of size of the house and thick walls. And they don't get AT&T Wi-Fi calling because it's not AT&T branded hardware.)
Any great Verizon signal. Not sure if the rep provisioned VoLTE or not, as I haven't touched the phones recently. But they are very happy. The guy told them, "If something happens and you need help, come to the store and ONLY SEE ME. Don't tell anyone else what I've done."
Nice to find someone like that, but my brother-in-law is GREAT about finding people like that. He's a very successful salesperson and knows how to make people WANT to help him. What's really scary is when he turns his skill set against other salespeople. You should see him when shopping for a car.
"What color are you looking for, sir?"
"Doesn't matter, it's just all sheet metal to me. Color isn't important."
When he really has his eye on that cobalt blue SUV or whatever...
"Oh, that one? I guess I could drive that if you've got nothing better."
When he gets finished, it's like they've been hypnotized.
He walks out with exactly what he came to get, and at fantastic price.
I have the H931 version from ATT and i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
RAMONis5645 said:
I have the H931 version from ATT and
i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option
is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
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Yes, convert H931 to US998 firmware. You don't say where you live, but I'm guessing you are not an AT&T customer?
AT&T H931 out of the box is carrier locked to AT&T unless the seller unlocked it with a code. You need to free it. The EASIEST way for regular users to carrier unlock the AT&T H931 V30 is simply to convert it to Open Market US998 V30. This has nothing to do with rooting the phone.
Read more here, see post #1:
AT&T H931 & Sprint LS998 -- Carrier Unlock and Update to Latest Android Firmware!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/ls998-h931-how-to-update-t3927155
RAMONis5645 said:
I have the H931 version from ATT and i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
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See if dialing *#*#4636#*#* brings up the Testing Menu on your phone. If so, under Phone Information you should be able to select from the full list of Preferred network types.
Alternatively, try dialing *#546368#*931# and see if that brings up the LG Hidden Menu. If so, "Field Test | Modem Settings | RAT Selection" will let you select from a more narrow list of network types. Be very careful in this Hidden Menu. Lots of things NOT to touch in there!
Of course the ultimate freedom choice is to convert the phone to US998, as suggested by ChazzMatt, since it also allows you to unlock the bootloader and root, if you so desire.
There are a few downsides, which may or may not be relevant to you: US998 lacks a few LTE bands used by AT&T and T-Mobile; VoLTE and Wifi Calling are hard to get working (particularly on AT&T); And you'll never get any OTA updates from AT&T -- which you probably won't anyway, and converting to US998 is the ONLY way to update unless you are an AT&T customer; Also, you can't fully go back to H931 once you have converted, although there are ways to get the AT&T ROM and modem back.
As mentioned by Chazz, converting the phone will carrier unlock it as well; but if you don't want to convert, I understand H931 is quite easy to unlock with codes from 3rd party vendors.
TheDannemand said:
As mentioned by Chazz, converting the phone will carrier unlock it as well; but if you don't want to convert, I understand H931 is quite easy to unlock with codes from 3rd party vendors.
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Great information as usual.
Just discussing between you and me... I just assumed he's not an AT&T customer which is why he can't get a signal on his (whatever carrier) SIM card. Thus, also probably doesn't need AT&T LTE bands/features/firmware. Open Market US998 would actually be better, and not cost any money. The other option would be converting to Canada H933. It's carrier unlocked also and actually has more LTE bands (but no fastboot flash commands). It has all the US998 LTE bands and more. (While Verizon VS996 is also carrier unlocked, for people using other carriers every time you reboot you get a nag screen that you don't have Verizon SIM card. It makes some people think it's carrier locked, when it's just an annoyance from control freak Verizon.)
Yes, the caveat of converting from AT&T H931 to another North American variant is it's not easy to convert back -- because AT&T doesn't publicly release their LG firmware. The only reason that's an issue is for re-sale on Swappa. In 2020, for people who have bought 2nd handed on other online markets like eBay or in other countries, I don't think that's a concern.
As for updates, if he's not an AT&T customer (with AT&T SIM card) he won't get OTA updates even if any more were coming for this 2017 phone. This is true for most AT&T branded phones. The exception for non-carrier updates on LG AT&T seems to be AT&T MVNO Red Pocket. (I know why they are favored but would very off topic for this discussion.) Even AT&T's own Cricket often does not get updates on AT&T post paid branded phones. (See LG V35 forum.) This is one reason why Frankenstein is so popular for AT&T H931 V30 and Sprint LS998 V30+. You can manually update to latest firmware after converting to a carrier unlocked North American variant (like US998, Canada H933, Verizon VS996), because those two carriers don't release their firmware and only give updates to actual customers via FOTA.
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@ChazzMatt: Absolutely, I agree with all that. And I think you are right that the OP isn't on AT&T, so the phone may already be unlocked.
I wanted to avoid giving the impression of recommending AGAINST Frankenphoning, but merely provide the additional suggestions as far as changing the Network type (BTW I am truly surprised that H931 stripped those menus); and point out some pros and cons of converting, so that the OP can make an informed decision. Your posts further help with that. As always!
I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998) since I am having some issues with IMS on Red Pocket AT&T: It's picking up the IMS preset for AT&T, and VoLTE is working, but I cannot get WiFi Calling to work. Probably because AT&T were always so strict about only supporting AT&T branded phones, so the AT&T preset on US998 was never tested in real life -- AT&T wouldn't have allowed it. We're talking hundreds of intricate settings for each preset, impossible to test and tweak manually.
I've also considered trying the Canadian H933, but I could never get its modem to work on my US998 when I last tried it. I may try again though.
@RAMONis5645: Sorry for the off topic. Still definitely some answers for you posted here, and several suggestions for how to proceed, depending on your situation.
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[MENTION=3250376]And I think you are right that the OP isn't on AT&T, so the phone may already be unlocked.
I wanted to avoid giving the impression of recommending AGAINST Frankenphoning, but merely provide the additional suggestions as far as changing the Network type (BTW I am truly surprised that H931 stripped those menus); and point out some pros and cons of converting, so that the OP can make an informed decision. Your posts further help with that. As always!
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Hmmm... hadn't considered the phone may indeed already be carrier unlocked -- but he can't change network mode because the menu is stripped out.
So, Frankensteining to US998 firmware would give him back those menu options in the Mobile Network settings.
TheDannemand said:
I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998) since I am having some issues with IMS on Red Pocket AT&T: It's picking up the IMS preset for AT&T, and VoLTE is working, but I cannot get WiFi Calling to work. Probably because AT&T were always so strict about only supporting AT&T branded phones, so the AT&T preset on US998 was never tested in real life -- AT&T wouldn't have allowed it. We're talking hundreds of intricate settings for each preset, impossible to test and tweak manually.
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Good luck. It may work only because you are using "AT&T" Red Pocket MVNO and would have "genuine" AT&T firmware. As actual AT&T customer itself (vs MVNO) probably wouldn't work because it's not an AT&T branded phone.
I have AT&T post paid (aka contract AT&T) whereas for years I had AT&T Prepaid and my wife and mother still do. I had to switch to get microcell privileges back. My AT&T microcell for past 13 years was listed on my sister's AT&T post paid account, but now she and her husband switched to Verizon -- which cancelled the AT&T microcells at my house and my mom's house. Arggghhh... Only post paid AT&T customers get ability to have microcells. My house normally has no AT&T signal unless I stand in front yard, but microcell ($60 - $80 off eBay) gives me 5 bars of coverage inside my house. So, I'm able to add my wife's AT&T Prepaid phone number to "my" microcell. Decided my mother doesn't need her microcell, so haven't re-installed it yet at her house.
So, I'm basically paying about $60 more per month than before just to have microcell. AT&T Prepaid is SUCH a great deal, but I can't use it for my phone now. But I kept my wife and mother on it.
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TheDannemand said:
I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998)
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See PM I sent in private discussion.
ChazzMatt said:
Hmmm... hadn't considered the phone may indeed already be carrier unlocked -- but he can't change network mode because the menu is stripped out.
So, Frankensteining to US998 firmware would give him back those menu options in the Mobile Network settings.
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You are right about that. But to me that alone wouldn't be enough reason to Frankenphone, when the Test Menu and the Hidden Menu also provide those selections. Particularly if I also had other reasons to prefer the H931 ROM.
The big factor is of course updates, since it won't receive any updates from AT&T unless they're a customer (as you pointed out). That to me is bordering on criminal on AT&T's part.
ChazzMatt said:
Good luck. It may work only because you are using "AT&T" Red Pocket MVNO and would have "genuine" AT&T firmware. As actual AT&T customer itself (vs MVNO) probably wouldn't work because it's not an AT&T branded phone.
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I think maybe AT&T is starting to open up a bit. See my post linked below. They need to maximize use of their towers like everybody else, and VoLTE and VoWiFi saves a lot of traffic for them
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82598789&postcount=478
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I have AT&T post paid (aka contract AT&T) whereas for years I had AT&T Prepaid and my wife and mother still do. I had to switch to get microcell privileges back. My AT&T microcell for past 13 years was listed on my sister's AT&T post paid account, but now she and her husband switched to Verizon -- which cancelled the AT&T microcells at my house and my mom's house. Arggghhh... Only post paid AT&T customers get ability to have microcells. My house normally has no AT&T signal unless I stand in front yard, but microcell ($60 - $80 off eBay) gives me 5 bars of coverage inside my house. So, I'm able to add my wife's AT&T Prepaid phone number to "my" microcell. Decided my mother doesn't need her microcell, so haven't re-installed it yet at her house.
So, I'm basically paying about $60 more per month than before just to have microcell. AT&T Prepaid is SUCH a great deal, but I can't use it for my phone now. But I kept my wife and mother on it.
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I knew you were AT&T prepaid, as you have described in the past. I didn't realize you went postpaid, but makes sense to get that microcell for you both. Have you tested if one of the other carriers have better signal in your home, so you won't need a microcell? OTOH maybe AT&T postpaid provides other useful perks. I know T-Mobile did when we had them.
I was going to ask the same thing as above... you're on post-paid just to get the microcell, for which you pay another $60. And I know you've said you don't care about VOLTE or VOWIFI, but the latter would eliminate the microcell and give you full bars without paying extra. That's what I do (and my coworker down the street). I'm on a hill, so I get 3 bars, but I don't need to since I have VOWIFI. I get 5 bars throughout the house (and outside as well). My coworker (who gets like a bar at his house) runs fine of VOWIFI as well. Seems like the better way to go, cost-wise.
Note, this is on Verizon (originally) and now TW (VZ MVNO). I'm expect you can get VOWIFI on ATT MVNOs?
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
gimpy1 said:
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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If you are using Verizon on US998 firmware, then you don't have access to VoLTE (which is phone calls over LTE, Voice over LTE). LTE started out as a data-only service but for actual phone calls, carriers were still using 3G HSPA or CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). When making a phone call, phones temporarily bump down to 3G, and then jump back to LTE after the phone call is over.
With the VoLTE protocol, that finally allowed phone calls with LTE. It added VOICE capability to LTE.
However, different carriers treat VoLTE differently. T-mobile allows VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling for US998 phones, while AT&T and Verizon are more stingy. They reserve VoLTE mostly for their branded phones running their carrier firmware.
I'm an AT&T customer and I've never had VoLTE because I've never used a branded AT&T phone. For me, on AT&T, when I make a phone call I am bumped down temporarily to AT&T HSPA. Then, after the phone call, it jumps back to LTE.
If I were to flash the AT&T TWRP flashable zip, possibly I could enable that. But it's not just firmware, it's also a setting on the carrier side that has to be enabled.
Bottom line, what's happening is you are seeing you STRONG LTE signal. But when you make a phone call, you are being temporarily bumped down to Verizon CDMA. However, Verizon is in the process of dismantling all their CDMA towers. That's why your CDMA signal is so weak. Verizon plans to shutdown CDMA entirely by end of 2020. After that, you will need VoLTE to make phone calls on Verizon.
Since you have an actual VS996, you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable zip. Once on that firmware, see if VoLTE is enabled on your account (carrier side setting) and see if when you make phone calls you stay on LTE and are not bumped down to CDMA?
Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Yes, especially if you see strong LTE signal before making the phone call. Control freak Verizon (mostly) only allows VoLTE on Verizon firmware with Verizon branded phones. There may be exceptions (maybe Pixel phones?) and I know the ZTE Axon 7 (not a branded Verizon phone) somehow got VoLTE not only on ZTE stock firmware but also on LOS ROM -- but I believe ZTE paid Verizon to allow that. It's the exception that proves the rule.
Here's a a more in depth article about Verizon CDMA being shut down end of this year.
https://grantcountyreview.com/content/verizon-wireless-postpones-its-shutdown-3g-cdma networks
when Verizon closes its 2G and 3G networks at the end of 2020, 3G phones will become obsolete and non-VoLTE LTE phones will not be able to make or receive calls.
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You DO have a Verizon VoLTE capable phone -- a Verizon VS996 -- but for V30 only on Verizon firmware. If you were using T-mobile with US998 firmware, you would have no problems with VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile is more open than Verizon about such perks.
I don't get VoLTE with AT&T on US998 firmware, but AT&T has no plans to end 3G HSPA anytime soon.
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength. Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength.
Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal -- not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
ChazzMatt said:
Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
ldeveraux said:
I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs. So, although it's equivalent to US998 20h, it's a higher letter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
ldeveraux said:
I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
ChazzMatt said:
Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
ldeveraux said:
I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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Seems like, yes.
I had to do a few steps to manually activate HD/VOLTE on my VS996 phone when I was on VZ. I documented the steps somewhere here (using ShortcutMasterLite). I know at least one other member here used the same steps on his phone. I'm thinking you'll be fine once you're on VS996.
I have not switched to Pie... still running Oreo. I have heard too many issues with Pie, so I have no desire to bother. I can't imagine VZ's Pie release is any better than Pie US998. VZ is too lazy to do anything else right, so why would they bother fixing what's wrong on US998.
Just want to quickly update this thread. I dirty flashed the VS99620K.zip in TWRP, then immediately flashed the latest Magisk zip. Everything updated perfectly, installed about 10 VZ apps, and I now have VOWIFI (and can send/receive texts!), though haven't been able to check VOLTE as I'm currently in a dead zone.
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
Also, independent of this upgrade, my motion GIFs in any text app don't move. I thought it might have something to do with the non-VZ specific kernel, but after flashing, still just shows a static picture.
ldeveraux said:
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what Verizon video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, it would seem you don't need it. But you do make sure you have voice over LTE (VoLTE, called "HD calling" Verzion) --before end of this year.
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, you don't need it. But you do need to get voice over LTE.
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I am the only user on this account, so definitely the account holder. After more wasted chats with VZ, they said that since my phone is not VZ branded, it's not eligible for Video Calling, which apparently is exactly as you described; Facetime for non-iphone Verizon users. I don't need that, as you said all my other platforms work fine.
How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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I think if you have Vo-WiFi that means your VoLTE is also activated. They seem to be packaged together.
If you make a call in a good signal area, see if the "4GLTE" icon stays on when you make the call. It may even change to VoLTE icon? or HD calling icon? A Verizon user can probably tell you better. But the key is to see if there are any status bar icon changes and what they are. Also see if there is any information in the dialer GUI during the call, where you click on the dialer timer.
Yeah, don't talk to VZ. They're too stupid to help and downright liars. Your phone will work fine on their network even if it's not VZ branded (I've used US998 and H931 phones on VZ without issue).
On my phone, I did have to do some setting changes in SML (ShortcutMasterLite) to get VOLTE working. I don't think most people have to do that, but I did... and I agree, I think that got VOWIFI working as well. I'm guessing you have both, too... just need to try it. If not, you can force-activate it as I documented earlier (via SML).
I live in Canada and bought a US variant s23 Ultra. Two things I have noticed,
1. Wifi calling can be configured in my provider end (Virgin), and when it ask to complete the setup by turning on wifi calling it does not work.
2. Samsung pay is not working.
Has anyone faced any sort of issues after flashing SM-S918W firmware in SM918U1?
Any cons??
Also, my apps will be wiped or no? I have already seen that I can keep data intact while flashing with Oidin.
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I live in Canada and bought a US variant s23 Ultra. Two things I have noticed,
1. Wifi calling can be configured in my provider end (Virgin), and when it ask to complete the setup by turning on wifi calling it does not work.
2. Samsung pay is not working.
Has anyone faced any sort of issues after flashing SM-S918W firmware in SM918U1?
Any cons??
Also, my apps will be wiped or no? I have already seen that I can keep data intact while flashing with Oidin.
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Wi-Fi calling won’t work on the U1 (neither with VoLTE) in Canada except on Rogers. Bell and Telus whitelist W model IMEI numbers. Even if you flash the W firmware it won’t work.
nazmul arefeen said:
I live in Canada and bought a US variant s23 Ultra. Two things I have noticed,
1. Wifi calling can be configured in my provider end (Virgin), and when it ask to complete the setup by turning on wifi calling it does not work.
2. Samsung pay is not working.
Has anyone faced any sort of issues after flashing SM-S918W firmware in SM918U1?
Any cons??
Also, my apps will be wiped or no? I have already seen that I can keep data intact while flashing with Oidin.
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Wi-Fi calling won’t work on the U1 (neither with VoLTE) in Canada except on Rogers. Bell and Telus whitelist W model IMEI numbers. Even if you flash the W firmware it won’t work.
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If this is the case. Was this a recent change? VoLTE used to work fine as well as 5G using my old OnePlus 8T+ 5G. It honestly wouldn't surprise me but if this is actually happening. I hope everyone files a complaint with the CRTC over their anti-competitive behavior. I won't be able to try mine out until i get back to Toronto after Easter but I will be reaching out to their Executive Team directly if this is the case and consider returning my 6 lines to Rogers.
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If this is the case. Was this a recent change? VoLTE used to work fine as well as 5G using my old OnePlus 8T+ 5G. It honestly wouldn't surprise me but if this is actually happening. I hope everyone files a complaint with the CRTC over their anti-competitive behavior. I won't be able to try mine out until i get back to Toronto after Easter but I will be reaching out to their Executive Team directly if this is the case and consider returning my 6 lines to Rogers.
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It was a change sometime last year. CRTC wouldn't do anything because they said it's their network and they can choose what devices they allow to use. CRTC is a joke
lexcyn said:
It was a change sometime last year. CRTC wouldn't do anything because they said it's their network and they can choose what devices they allow to use. CRTC is a joke
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It used to be that way about SIM locking devices too. Sometimes things can change for the better. Especially if enough people complain about the same issue.
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It used to be that way about SIM locking devices too. Sometimes things can change for the better. Especially if enough people complain about the same issue.
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I tried submitting a CCTS claim but they sent me back the requirements and there is a specific section about devices on their network and how that's exempt. The only way might be writing your MP to voice your complaint. I agree if enough people complain maybe they will do something but I won't hold my breath. In my case I switched carriers to Rogers since I didn't want to give up my U1 device but I know not everyone is in that position.
lexcyn said:
I tried submitting a CCTS claim but they sent me back the requirements and there is a specific section about devices on their network and how that's exempt. The only way might be writing your MP to voice your complaint. I agree if enough people complain maybe they will do something but I won't hold my breath. In my case I switched carriers to Rogers since I didn't want to give up my U1 device but I know not everyone is in that position.
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I need a device compatible with mt T-Mobile SIM and Telus. US devices are much more compatible globally in my opinion and T-Mobile's roaming rates make Canadian carrier rates look like a joke in comparison.
jcsww said:
I need a device compatible with mt T-Mobile SIM and Telus. US devices are much more compatible globally in my opinion and T-Mobile's roaming rates make Canadian carrier rates look like a joke in comparison.
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100%.
telus/kodoo wifi calling did not work for me and the phone was from Telus!
Had to switch to Rogers.
I do remember that my previous phone (online bought) was not supported by my carrier for Vowifi, and I found on the carrier forum how to push it with ADB. It worked, can't remember exactly the steps it's been a while
You cannot use a US S23 Ultra with a Canadian SIM card, but you can use International Data Roaming with a supported US carrier.
(This is a MAJOR change for 2023 and beyond. Samsung is putting the final nail in the coffin to end foreign SIM card support on US Galaxy devices, even after a network unlock.)
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telus/kodoo wifi calling did not work for me and the phone was from Telus!
Had to switch to Rogers.
I do remember that my previous phone (online bought) was not supported by my carrier for Vowifi, and I found on the carrier forum how to push it with ADB. It worked, can't remember exactly the steps it's been a while
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I did similar with the OnePlus 8T+ 5G. Using QPST, you change the carrier profile for the SIM. This also worked on my Xiaomi Mi MIX 3.
KiwiBird97 said:
You cannot use a US S23 Ultra with a Canadian SIM card, but you can use International Data Roaming with a supported US carrier.
(This is a MAJOR change for 2023 and beyond. Samsung is putting the final nail in the coffin to end foreign SIM card support on US Galaxy devices, even after a network unlock.)
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Samsung doesn't care. As long as you buy their phone, they get your money. I am going to have a conversation with the Telus Executive Team this week about this. I want to know what exactly is done. If it's white listing as mentioned. Then they can lock my device ID to a previously sold Telus device to keep these features active on my s23 Ultra. I had this done with my old Rogers s9+ on AT&T that was flashed to keep WiFi Calling and VoLTE working for that device while she used it.
good luck with Telus, I spoke with many people to get the freaking Vowifi option enable, and nothing can be done. Ive pposted on all possible forums to let people know.
Even the engineer team was aware of that and they didnt care.
Sad I personally know the ex VP of telus, but now retired...
I spoke to one of the senior network engineers at Telus after confusing my contact in the Telus Executive Office. What I was told...
Devices are not provisioned by IMEI but are by device model. So even a W flashed U or U1 will still show up as what it is because of the one unchangeable CSC. The crock about having to test devices before the model gets approved is a typical line but that is their excuse to limit what devices fully function on their network to help encourage customers to buy from Telus. However, devices and devices models will be added as time passes. I sent the engineer the IMEI's for my TMB U s23 Ultra and this is what I was told.
Not vetted yet but as explained to me over the phone. Devices and device model variants will be added to the vetted list over time. This practice was implemented less than a year ago now. There is no ETA for this and I am not aware of any way to bypass the IMS vetting list. Device refreshes take place every few days.