Will an unlocked T-Mobile LG v10 work with a Verizon sim card? - T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?

I would like to know as well
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There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
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ZDeuce2 said:
There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
Common sense isn't all that common
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Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?

sanjsrik said:
Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizon runs on CDMA and lte, tmo is GSM and lte... But most phone now by law must run on all available technologies... Bandwidth might be off a little, but for the most part have to be compatible... This is why, when in network settings, it gives options for CDMA, even though tmobile can't use it... It all has to do with the deregulation of cell service laws they passed a few years back... In layman's terms, they have to allow phones and networks to be compatible (1) for e911 services, and (2) for phone and carrier portability.
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Zdeuce2, WCDMA is not the same as CDMA. It is a 3G technology used on GSM networks. The CDMA equivalent is (was?)EV-DO and later, SV-DO.
Unless Verizon has moved on from CDMA as a whole for voice (they might have, I'm not sure) then compatibility will be questionable.

@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").

siraltus said:
@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").
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Well, then I was mistaken... Lol. Thank you for the corrections...
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The answer is yes, a T-Mobile LG V10 will work on Verizon. However, Verizon actively black lists any phone that is not purchased directly through Verizon. Purchasing an iPhone at an Apple store often runs into this exact same issue. Verizon's poorly trained customer service reps are unaware that Verizon has transitioned to all calls, text and data across LTE in major cities and most outlying areas and insists that the T-Mobile H901 must run on CDMA to connect (false), H901 is not compatible simply because the Verizon employee is told to say so by corporate.
I had filed a complaint with the FCC. Verizon issued a generic response saying that all of "Verizon's" phones are unlocked from purchase and that only approved Verizon devices will function on their network. The FCC was satisfied with this generic response and closed the case. If the FCC continues to receive these complaints, eventually they will make a move in our favor.

BrettFavor said:
Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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You're on the updated marshmellow Verizon V10 than id assume? Since root was achieved for the Verizon v10 but only for LP.

BrettFavor said:
Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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No, it is not possible, because the T-mobile variant does not have CDMA modem/radio.

Not possible, as others have stated, if it was a Verizon on T-mobile yes because it has both CDMA & GSM radios, T-mobile variant is lacking that CDMA radio.

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Ubuntu edge on Verizon?

I just put down my $600, and didn't even think to whether it will be Verizon comparable... Any idea's. Is that duel LTE antenna our saving grace?
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Your saving grace might be the fast it is dual LTE but the page didn't say what bands. Hopefully with Verizon joining the canonical advisory group, UE will be one of Verizon's first LTE only devices
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They just added another Perk, if you missed the 600$ perk
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home
"Recently, the company announced the first of its partner carriers, which includes Verizon, Deutsche Telecom, EE, SK Telecom, China Unicom and others"
From:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
Hopefully this is a good sign right here. I got in on the $600 deal too.
ndude737 said:
"Recently, the company announced the first of its partner carriers, which includes Verizon, Deutsche Telecom, EE, SK Telecom, China Unicom and others"
From:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
Hopefully this is a good sign right here. I got in on the $600 deal too.
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Freaking Awesome, I know I read it would only be available for gsm networks, meaning ATT and Tmobile. As soon as i gave 600$ i emailed them asking if it was possible to ship phone for the Verizon network and I have yet to hear a response.
I think the biggest issue will be that alot of the telephone parts for CDMA carriers are closed sourced. This maybe a road block for it like it was for the few CDMA nexus devices and why there have not been any more.
Wayne Tech Nexus
My only concern is that given Verizon's attitude towards nexus devices this one would also be treated as such. Unless they make a deal where this would be a sort of trial run device and Ubuntu would be the one that does all the updates outside of Verizon.
ndude737 said:
My only concern is that given Verizon's attitude towards nexus devices this one would also be treated as such. Unless they make a deal where this would be a sort of trial run device and Ubuntu would be the one that does all the updates outside of Verizon.
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See that's where you run into the issue. Alot of the phone related stuff is proprietary software. And Ubuntu had a habit of open sourcing everything it can. It would also require a completely separate device. That is why most fully open devices are GSM only. As well as GSM being used by 90% of the world. Until Verizon starts using GSM it is gonna be hard on the open source community
Wayne Tech Nexus
Finally received a response from ubuntu about ubuntu edge being on verizon.
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greatnesstx said:
Finally received a response from ubuntu about ubuntu edge being on verizon.
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Disappointing news.
Hmm, well this sucks. I'm on Verizon in the US. I wonder why the Engadget article would list Verizon as a supported carrier if it's not going to be compatible with CDMA in the US? Isn't that essentially what runs Verizon's network?
I contributed to the $625 perk this morning. Wondering if I need to start the refund process?
Verizon should be adding VoLTE to their network soonish... when they make this change is their a slim possibility of using this phone with their network?
Well if the LTE radios support band 13 and 4 (AWS) then the LTE should be able to work but thats not to say that Verizon won't block the device completely. I'm still going to maintain my pledge and see what comes as far as development. Worst comes to worse I will just return the device or use it on wifi only.
Well Mark Shuttleworth will be available for and Q&A today.
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GlennE said:
Disappointing news.
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Not really,
You will be able to use T-mobile, Verizon and Sprint.
I am not 100% sure about AT&T
zoddfrank said:
Not really,
You will be able to use T-mobile, Verizon and Sprint.
I am not 100% sure about AT&T
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ATT and Tmobile are already stated. The CDMA carriers are not gonna by a sure thing.
Help spred the word!
https://www.thunderclap.it/en/projects/3486
It states very clearly here - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge that Verizon LTE will be supported. So, when Verizon switches to VoLTE, which is supposed to be sometime in 2014, UE will be an option.
jaizero said:
It states very clearly here - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge that Verizon LTE will be supported. So, when Verizon switches to VoLTE, which is supposed to be sometime in 2014, UE will be an option.
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Which means nothing. As long as CDMA devices still use closed sourced files you can forget about it. Maybe some day they will join the rest of the world and ditch the out dated systems.
Wayne Tech Nexus
zelendel said:
Which means nothing. As long as CDMA devices still use closed sourced files you can forget about it. Maybe some day they will join the rest of the world and ditch the out dated systems.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Once Verizon deploys VOLTE, it will have to accept any device capable of VOLTE on it's network. Same reason why the new Nexus 7 will work with Verizon LTE, even without CDMA radios.

Metro PCS S5

Metro PCS just announced the S5 without contract for $649.99. Since Metro PCS is now owned by T-Mobile I would assume that their S5 is the same as the T-Mobile S5 with the same LTE bands. Does anybody know this for sure. I am out of town and can't get to a Metro PCS store or a Best Buy to confirm.
I was actually wondering the same thing myself and have looked into it. Here's what I've come up with.
T-Mobile - http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
MetroPCS - http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TRKATMB
They are both listed as having the same bands and it seems implied they both fall under the SM-G900T. For rooting though it is listed separately as the SM-G900T1.
http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
That said, perhaps someone can explain any possible differences.
On a side note since I'm trying to figure out which one to buy here is a comparison I've come up with:
tmobile - 720 after tax - unlock after 40 days - 50 per month cheapest
metropcs - 700 after tax - unlock after 90 days - 40 per month cheapest
Thanks for the info. Now the question is which way to go.
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Im very interested in buying the MetroPCS model as BestBuy.com sells it at regular price and they have an awesome 18-Month no interest if you use their card. Enticing enough that i bought one and will be testing it out on AT&T use. Worst case scenario i return it...big deal.
serialtoon said:
Im very interested in buying the MetroPCS model as BestBuy.com sells it at regular price and they have an awesome 18-Month no interest if you use their card. Enticing enough that i bought one and will be testing it out on AT&T use. Worst case scenario i return it...big deal.
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Keep us informed on how it works. I may buy one to after I get back home.
rfb813 said:
Keep us informed on how it works. I may buy one to after I get back home.
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Best buy us closed today lol
Anyone try this yet?
I have a TMO Note 3 that works great on ATT after entering the unlock code.
This looks like a good way to get a device on ATT and not have to wait possibly forever LOL for the exploit/root/unlock bootloader, etc.
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Anyone try this yet?
I have a TMO Note 3 that works great on ATT after entering the unlock code.
This looks like a good way to get a device on ATT and not have to wait possibly forever LOL for the exploit/root/unlock bootloader, etc.
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Have one here, requested unlock code from cellunlocker.net. Got an email about 3 hours later that there's a delay and they need to check an alternative database.
I've read it's TMO and indeed it has wifi calling. As long as there are no issues with the unlock code (crosses fingers) I believe this should be a go just like my TMO note 3 on ATT. Have no problems using it whatsoever.
Updating in case anyone is interested.
Got my unlock code about three hours after yesterday's post.
Was able to unlock using deepfreeze code first, then network unlock code afterward!
I called ATT to switch a nano sim to a micro sim and mistakenly gave them the (Metro PCS) S5 IEMI! Don't do this as it will prevent LTE from working. I asked the associate if I could switch IEMIs and she said sure. I gave her the IEMI of my M8, restarted the phone and LTE is now working.
Just flashed TWRP and the Alliance Rom about an hour ago.
Running fine on ATT here with unlocked bootloader.
So if you're on ATT and want an S5 with an unlocked bootloader, this is probably the cheapest option outside of buying on swappa, etc.
I checked the APN settings in Google hangouts and it shows METROPCS as the selected APN, even though I am on a T MOBILE S5 And service.
What's weird is I never set up any APNs since having the phone so it must have came with those settings preinstalled.
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What's the model number of the MetroPCS S5?
So I got a metro PCs phone unlocked it at https://www.unlocklocks.com/
And now I have it on T-Mobile no problems what so ever
I used hangouts for SMS so the apns where there already
And in order to enable the built in hotspot without root I went into wireless connections and added the APN for T-Mobile by copying everything as it was on my note 3, and just like that hotspot is activated
Sennant said:
What's the model number of the MetroPCS S5?
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It's the same as tmobile I think, I'm using a metro pcs galaxy s5 and it says SM-G900T1
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Since there isn't a dedicated MetroPCS section due it being 99% compatible with TMO ROMs, etc. I'd like to post an issue here that I'm having with my S5 from MPCS in hopes someone else has found a resolution. The issue I'm having is getting a tethering "hack" to work with my service. Has anyone found one that works successfully for them? Thanks!
rfb813 said:
Metro PCS just announced the S5 without contract for $649.99. Since Metro PCS is now owned by T-Mobile I would assume that their S5 is the same as the T-Mobile S5 with the same LTE bands. Does anybody know this for sure. I am out of town and can't get to a Metro PCS store or a Best Buy to confirm.
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Same phones since s3.
Same Lte.
Identical just metro has some metro apps.
If u buy metro you have to wait 90 days before they will unlock it .
T-mobile not sure
But u can pay to have it done .
I use t-mobile phones on metro all the time . But u can't use metro branded on t-mobile It's metro rules .
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sim unlock
I just got the S5 at Metro. Do I have to sim unlock to install roms. I have root and TWRP recovery already. Tried the Slim rom for Tmo and didn't have any service even after changing APN settings. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Q] Can I Flash an AT&T Rom to Get LTE?

Newbie here.....
I have a Verizon LG G3 that I am using with AT&T.
It works well but a couple of issues I'd like to address.
1) I only get H+ and would like to get LTE
2) I am having issues with sending & receiving mms messages where the pictures wont send if I'm on WiFi but send fine when I'm on the data network.
Is there any way to correct/ improve these issues?
Can I flash the stock AT&T rom on the Verizon phone and would it work?
Any help and/ or enlightenment is greatly appreciated.
jiml87 said:
Newbie here.....
I have a Verizon LG G3 that I am using with AT&T.
It works well but a couple of issues I'd like to address.
1) I only get H+ and would like to get LTE
2) I am having issues with sending & receiving mms messages where the pictures wont send if I'm on WiFi but send fine when I'm on the data network.
Is there any way to correct/ improve these issues?
Can I flash the stock AT&T rom on the Verizon phone and would it work?
Any help and/ or enlightenment is greatly appreciated.
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oh you never flash att&t rom to this phone....and software wouldn't solve ur issue....you only get band 4 lte if im correct...and you never ever flash any rom other than a "vs985"
also..mms has to do with apn settings...
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
jiml87 said:
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
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i'm not sure on that..maybe someone else could tell you...i know its something about if you have band 4 in ur area you will get lte....dnt ask me what that means..im lucky i get 3g where im at
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oh you never flash att&t rom to this phone....and software wouldn't solve ur issue....you only get band 4 lte if im correct...and you never ever flash any rom other than a "vs985"
also..mms has to do with apn settings...
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I have the correct ATT apns and when I receive a MMS I have to turn off WiFi in order to download the picture. It has something to do with the phone
You will get LTE off AT&T (and T-Mobile) if they are using Band4 in your current area. In some areas they use a different band, maybe band 21 - I can't remember offhand. Our VS985 cannot use band21, it uses band 4 and band 13 for LTE though.
It has been figured out that it is also possible to enable Band3 LTE on the VS985, but that is only going to help in other countries, particularly France.
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I recently went through this. I was assured from att that I would get lte. Well, after days of trouble shooting with att and trying different hacks I could only get h+
I even went right next to a strong att tower area and still could not. For mms the only way I could get it to work was by using textra, which had a fix for mms by turning off wifi.
What I have learned is that there are some att bands that are locked out in the Verizon phone. There was an xda post that almost had it figured out but nobody could get it working.
H+ is pretty fast by the way, but I was unsatisfied so I am back on Verizon.
And also, do not ever flash anything other than a Verizon rom and radio.
jiml87 said:
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
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I would message @autoprime about this. He was recently working on unifying all G3 variants' modems since they all use the same radio with different bands unlocked. He may have a method to unlock the bands you need.
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I recently went through this. I was assured from att that I would get lte. Well, after days of trouble shooting with att and trying different hacks I could only get h+
I even went right next to a strong att tower area and still could not. For mms the only way I could get it to work was by using textra, which had a fix for mms by turning off wifi.
What I have learned is that there are some att bands that are locked out in the Verizon phone. There was an xda post that almost had it figured out but nobody could get it working.
H+ is pretty fast by the way, but I was unsatisfied so I am back on Verizon.
And also, do not ever flash anything other than a Verizon rom and radio.
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Not to rub it in but here's my Verizon g3 on LTE with Cricket which is prepaid ATT. I did nothing special just popped in my cricket sim card.
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Not to rub it in but here's my Verizon g3 on LTE with Cricket which is prepaid ATT. I did nothing special just popped in my cricket sim card.
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Hats off to you. Mind sharing the apn settings your using? Might help someone else
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Hats off to you. Mind sharing the apn settings your using? Might help someone else
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Did you make sure Band 4 was supported in your area? I know that's the only LTE band that is supported by the Verizon G3 variant.
The VErizon version uses only the Verizon modem (radio) firmware. It does not and cannot enable the ATT LTE bands.. Just so happens that one band is the same. For the rest you are out of luck. Read this for more information.
http://www.cnet.com/news/will-at-t-and-verizon-4g-lte-ever-be-compatible/

LG V30 (931S) Unlocked ATT phone on Metro issues with signal strength and Hotspot

So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. I've been noticing signal issues vs my previous cheapie Samsung J7 and now can't get wifi calling or mobile hotspot to work. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
I am not familiar with Metro, but I suspect much like ST that their ToS do not allow tethering. It is also doubtful you have native tether with a carrier branded phone. Rooting is pretty easy if you have a PC, quality USB cable, and patience to read and follow the very well written WTF guide, link below. Switching to either stock US998 or an AOSP rom will get you tethering. Liquid Remix is well-regarded by many.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
jsteve01 said:
So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. I've been noticing signal issues vs my previous cheapie Samsung J7 and now can't get wifi calling or mobile hotspot to work. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
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cmrntnnr said:
I am not familiar with Metro, but I suspect much like ST that their ToS do not allow tethering. It is also doubtful you have native tether with a carrier branded phone. Rooting is pretty easy if you have a PC, quality USB cable, and patience to read and follow the very well written WTF guide, link below. Switching to either stock US998 or an AOSP rom will get you tethering. Liquid Remix is well-regarded by many.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
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That is my frustration. I get 5 gigs of mobile hot spot included every month. So It's a loss not to have it. Would rooting improve signal strength. I'm certain it's an LG software issue rather than hardware.
My service is over Verizon's towers so it is hard to give you a firm answer. What I can say is that the open market US998 is rated for service on ATT. US998 firmware will rid you of the carrier dongles and bloat. That said, there are some quirks about signal strength and sms for some cross-flashing cases. Hopefully someone in the know will comment for you. You can also browse the WTF forum.
jsteve01 said:
That is my frustration. I get 5 gigs of mobile hot spot included every month. So It's a loss not to have it. Would rooting improve signal strength. I'm certain it's an LG software issue rather than hardware.
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jsteve01 said:
So I purchased an almost new V30 and got an ATT unlocked phone for a good deal off of ebay. Any insight would be fantastic. I haven't rooted a phone in a while so I'm a little leary on that if I don't have to.
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You sure H931 is carrier unlocked? If so, then it's probably already been flashed to US998... That's the way most carrier unlock the H931.
Converted to US998 it will work on T-Mobile/Metro just fine.
You don't need to root, if you don't want.
Well the reason I posted the thread was because yes I have been able to activate it, but my signal is far worse on this flagship phone I'll be at a year-and-a-half old then it was on my Cheapo three-year-old Samsung j7. LTE Discovery doesn't even show GSM on this phone for me. And as I said I can't get any wireless hotspot.
Any idea why I'm not showing any gsm signal on lte discovery?
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Well the reason I posted the thread was because yes I have been able to activate it, but my signal is far worse on this flagship phone I'll be at a year-and-a-half old then it was on my Cheapo three-year-old Samsung j7. LTE Discovery doesn't even show GSM on this phone for me. And as I said I can't get any wireless hotspot.
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I would Frankenstein it to US998. You'll get rid of the AT&T bloatware.
Also make sure it's on LTE/HSPA/GSM mode not global mode or something.
It doesn't even show gsm signal. Wish I would have done more research on which variant to buy because it sounds like this att version won't even accept aosp
How do I make sure it is on LTE/HSPA/GSM rather than global?
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How do I make sure it is on LTE/HSPA/GSM rather than global?
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Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
What do the hardware and software info tabs show in Setttings>System-About Phone?
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I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
I suspected as much. So you have a carrier dongled phone from ATT and are surprised/frustrated it doesn't work? What the j7 does is not relevant
Forgive me for being terse, but you have all the information at hand to decide what to do.
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
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I don't think mine offers that option. I've actually been reading your thread about the secret menu selections. I think my big concern is with this phone being that it's the AT&T variant from what I'm reading I can't install custom roms I can only go rooted and remove bloatware or go with Factory style ROMs. I really do appreciate all your responses. I think we talked about this but with a custom rom would it address the issues that I'm having with signal? I really don't believe that it's a hardware issue I'm pretty much certain it's that LG has crappy modem software
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I have excellent signal.
Let's forget about custom ROMs for a minute. Let's try to improve your signal. Installing custom ROMs is another discussion altogether and has nothing to do with improving your signal, getting LTE or anything. There's nothing in custom ROMs that will improve signal strength to my knowledge. It's using the exact same radio firmware as stock.
You are on 1-year old Nougat firmware, not the latest most recent available. I would recommend converting to carrier unlocked "open market" US998 firmware -- which is designed to work with ALL North American carriers, while the H931 is designed to work with AT&T -- and then updating to US998 20G (January 2019 security patch). It's the only way you are ever going to be able to update your firmware -- yes, which has newer modems.
You can do that, see if your signal improves -- then you can decide if you want to unlock bootloader and root. Yeah, to unlock bootloader you would have to then temporarily downgrade back to 20A or 20B, but I really want to keep this discussion focused on signal strength for now.
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Rev 1.0 for hardware version. Lg h931.
Software is 7.1.2 AT&T shows that I'm do an update for Oreo, but obviously the phone is on MetroPCS at this point. I'm a somebody that loves to mess with things The Tweak little things here and there so I want to fix the handset because I think the build and the hardware fantastic I'm just frustrated immensely by the fact again not to repeat myself but for the third time that a cheapo Samsung j7 my old phone and my wife's j7 Prime both get far better signal strength. And I'm also immensely confused by the fact that when I look at LTE Discovery it shows nothing under the GSM window.
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I have LTE Discovery and use it all the time. I have never seen this "GSM Window" you keep talking about. Are you saying you saying you on not LTE or HSPA at all?
What does it show under the "Signals" tab? Give us a screenshot. It should show LTE or HSPA and show dBm signal strength. It should also show closest tower distance and GPS coordinates and how many satellites are available. (I have 12 GPS satellites available with less than 3 meters accuracy.)
Also, when you do a speed test, what is your speed?
These are not my screenshots, it's from another thread where someone was having problems. I just wanted to show you the "Signals" tab I'm talking about...
Mine looks exactly like the screenshot that you posted. So you see there's an LTE chart on the left and a GSM chart on the right? That's what I'm referencing. So I guess my question would be how can I update now that I've got an AT&T phone on Metro
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cduvvaRRmfUj1hX6A
Sorry for some reason it wont let me post my link.
That said thanks. To all of you for your help
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Mine looks exactly like the screenshot that you posted. So you see there's an LTE chart on the left and a GSM chart on the right? That's what I'm referencing. So I guess my question would be how can I update now that I've got an AT&T phone on Metro
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But GSM isn't going to show anything, unless you're on GSM. What does LTE show?
The only way you're going to update is to Frankenstein convert to carrier unlocked variant like US998 that has public KDZ releases , which you flash with LGUP. H931 doesn't.

How can I change network mode on my LG V30 H931

I have the H931 version from ATT and i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
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I have the H931 version from ATT and
i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option
is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
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Yes, convert H931 to US998 firmware. You don't say where you live, but I'm guessing you are not an AT&T customer?
AT&T H931 out of the box is carrier locked to AT&T unless the seller unlocked it with a code. You need to free it. The EASIEST way for regular users to carrier unlock the AT&T H931 V30 is simply to convert it to Open Market US998 V30. This has nothing to do with rooting the phone.
Read more here, see post #1:
AT&T H931 & Sprint LS998 -- Carrier Unlock and Update to Latest Android Firmware!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/ls998-h931-how-to-update-t3927155
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I have the H931 version from ATT and i cant enable 3G i dont even have the Network mode option is there a way to fix this without rooting my phone?
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See if dialing *#*#4636#*#* brings up the Testing Menu on your phone. If so, under Phone Information you should be able to select from the full list of Preferred network types.
Alternatively, try dialing *#546368#*931# and see if that brings up the LG Hidden Menu. If so, "Field Test | Modem Settings | RAT Selection" will let you select from a more narrow list of network types. Be very careful in this Hidden Menu. Lots of things NOT to touch in there!
Of course the ultimate freedom choice is to convert the phone to US998, as suggested by ChazzMatt, since it also allows you to unlock the bootloader and root, if you so desire.
There are a few downsides, which may or may not be relevant to you: US998 lacks a few LTE bands used by AT&T and T-Mobile; VoLTE and Wifi Calling are hard to get working (particularly on AT&T); And you'll never get any OTA updates from AT&T -- which you probably won't anyway, and converting to US998 is the ONLY way to update unless you are an AT&T customer; Also, you can't fully go back to H931 once you have converted, although there are ways to get the AT&T ROM and modem back.
As mentioned by Chazz, converting the phone will carrier unlock it as well; but if you don't want to convert, I understand H931 is quite easy to unlock with codes from 3rd party vendors.
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As mentioned by Chazz, converting the phone will carrier unlock it as well; but if you don't want to convert, I understand H931 is quite easy to unlock with codes from 3rd party vendors.
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Great information as usual.
Just discussing between you and me... I just assumed he's not an AT&T customer which is why he can't get a signal on his (whatever carrier) SIM card. Thus, also probably doesn't need AT&T LTE bands/features/firmware. Open Market US998 would actually be better, and not cost any money. The other option would be converting to Canada H933. It's carrier unlocked also and actually has more LTE bands (but no fastboot flash commands). It has all the US998 LTE bands and more. (While Verizon VS996 is also carrier unlocked, for people using other carriers every time you reboot you get a nag screen that you don't have Verizon SIM card. It makes some people think it's carrier locked, when it's just an annoyance from control freak Verizon.)
Yes, the caveat of converting from AT&T H931 to another North American variant is it's not easy to convert back -- because AT&T doesn't publicly release their LG firmware. The only reason that's an issue is for re-sale on Swappa. In 2020, for people who have bought 2nd handed on other online markets like eBay or in other countries, I don't think that's a concern.
As for updates, if he's not an AT&T customer (with AT&T SIM card) he won't get OTA updates even if any more were coming for this 2017 phone. This is true for most AT&T branded phones. The exception for non-carrier updates on LG AT&T seems to be AT&T MVNO Red Pocket. (I know why they are favored but would very off topic for this discussion.) Even AT&T's own Cricket often does not get updates on AT&T post paid branded phones. (See LG V35 forum.) This is one reason why Frankenstein is so popular for AT&T H931 V30 and Sprint LS998 V30+. You can manually update to latest firmware after converting to a carrier unlocked North American variant (like US998, Canada H933, Verizon VS996), because those two carriers don't release their firmware and only give updates to actual customers via FOTA.
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@ChazzMatt: Absolutely, I agree with all that. And I think you are right that the OP isn't on AT&T, so the phone may already be unlocked.
I wanted to avoid giving the impression of recommending AGAINST Frankenphoning, but merely provide the additional suggestions as far as changing the Network type (BTW I am truly surprised that H931 stripped those menus); and point out some pros and cons of converting, so that the OP can make an informed decision. Your posts further help with that. As always!
I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998) since I am having some issues with IMS on Red Pocket AT&T: It's picking up the IMS preset for AT&T, and VoLTE is working, but I cannot get WiFi Calling to work. Probably because AT&T were always so strict about only supporting AT&T branded phones, so the AT&T preset on US998 was never tested in real life -- AT&T wouldn't have allowed it. We're talking hundreds of intricate settings for each preset, impossible to test and tweak manually.
I've also considered trying the Canadian H933, but I could never get its modem to work on my US998 when I last tried it. I may try again though.
@RAMONis5645: Sorry for the off topic. Still definitely some answers for you posted here, and several suggestions for how to proceed, depending on your situation.
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[MENTION=3250376]And I think you are right that the OP isn't on AT&T, so the phone may already be unlocked.
I wanted to avoid giving the impression of recommending AGAINST Frankenphoning, but merely provide the additional suggestions as far as changing the Network type (BTW I am truly surprised that H931 stripped those menus); and point out some pros and cons of converting, so that the OP can make an informed decision. Your posts further help with that. As always!
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Hmmm... hadn't considered the phone may indeed already be carrier unlocked -- but he can't change network mode because the menu is stripped out.
So, Frankensteining to US998 firmware would give him back those menu options in the Mobile Network settings.
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I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998) since I am having some issues with IMS on Red Pocket AT&T: It's picking up the IMS preset for AT&T, and VoLTE is working, but I cannot get WiFi Calling to work. Probably because AT&T were always so strict about only supporting AT&T branded phones, so the AT&T preset on US998 was never tested in real life -- AT&T wouldn't have allowed it. We're talking hundreds of intricate settings for each preset, impossible to test and tweak manually.
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Good luck. It may work only because you are using "AT&T" Red Pocket MVNO and would have "genuine" AT&T firmware. As actual AT&T customer itself (vs MVNO) probably wouldn't work because it's not an AT&T branded phone.
I have AT&T post paid (aka contract AT&T) whereas for years I had AT&T Prepaid and my wife and mother still do. I had to switch to get microcell privileges back. My AT&T microcell for past 13 years was listed on my sister's AT&T post paid account, but now she and her husband switched to Verizon -- which cancelled the AT&T microcells at my house and my mom's house. Arggghhh... Only post paid AT&T customers get ability to have microcells. My house normally has no AT&T signal unless I stand in front yard, but microcell ($60 - $80 off eBay) gives me 5 bars of coverage inside my house. So, I'm able to add my wife's AT&T Prepaid phone number to "my" microcell. Decided my mother doesn't need her microcell, so haven't re-installed it yet at her house.
So, I'm basically paying about $60 more per month than before just to have microcell. AT&T Prepaid is SUCH a great deal, but I can't use it for my phone now. But I kept my wife and mother on it.
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I am actually thinking of trying the H931 ROM & Modem myself on my US998 (which is a converted LS998)
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Hmmm... hadn't considered the phone may indeed already be carrier unlocked -- but he can't change network mode because the menu is stripped out.
So, Frankensteining to US998 firmware would give him back those menu options in the Mobile Network settings.
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You are right about that. But to me that alone wouldn't be enough reason to Frankenphone, when the Test Menu and the Hidden Menu also provide those selections. Particularly if I also had other reasons to prefer the H931 ROM.
The big factor is of course updates, since it won't receive any updates from AT&T unless they're a customer (as you pointed out). That to me is bordering on criminal on AT&T's part.
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Good luck. It may work only because you are using "AT&T" Red Pocket MVNO and would have "genuine" AT&T firmware. As actual AT&T customer itself (vs MVNO) probably wouldn't work because it's not an AT&T branded phone.
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I think maybe AT&T is starting to open up a bit. See my post linked below. They need to maximize use of their towers like everybody else, and VoLTE and VoWiFi saves a lot of traffic for them
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82598789&postcount=478
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I have AT&T post paid (aka contract AT&T) whereas for years I had AT&T Prepaid and my wife and mother still do. I had to switch to get microcell privileges back. My AT&T microcell for past 13 years was listed on my sister's AT&T post paid account, but now she and her husband switched to Verizon -- which cancelled the AT&T microcells at my house and my mom's house. Arggghhh... Only post paid AT&T customers get ability to have microcells. My house normally has no AT&T signal unless I stand in front yard, but microcell ($60 - $80 off eBay) gives me 5 bars of coverage inside my house. So, I'm able to add my wife's AT&T Prepaid phone number to "my" microcell. Decided my mother doesn't need her microcell, so haven't re-installed it yet at her house.
So, I'm basically paying about $60 more per month than before just to have microcell. AT&T Prepaid is SUCH a great deal, but I can't use it for my phone now. But I kept my wife and mother on it.
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I knew you were AT&T prepaid, as you have described in the past. I didn't realize you went postpaid, but makes sense to get that microcell for you both. Have you tested if one of the other carriers have better signal in your home, so you won't need a microcell? OTOH maybe AT&T postpaid provides other useful perks. I know T-Mobile did when we had them.
I was going to ask the same thing as above... you're on post-paid just to get the microcell, for which you pay another $60. And I know you've said you don't care about VOLTE or VOWIFI, but the latter would eliminate the microcell and give you full bars without paying extra. That's what I do (and my coworker down the street). I'm on a hill, so I get 3 bars, but I don't need to since I have VOWIFI. I get 5 bars throughout the house (and outside as well). My coworker (who gets like a bar at his house) runs fine of VOWIFI as well. Seems like the better way to go, cost-wise.
Note, this is on Verizon (originally) and now TW (VZ MVNO). I'm expect you can get VOWIFI on ATT MVNOs?

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