It's really absurd to see people happy with the arrive of GSI roms that doesn't feature Moto mod support. I've tried some roms and the obvious result is that non of it let you use any mod so, ¿Is there any chance that developers build a ron or a module that let Moto mods work in GSI?
I agree, it's very annoying, there is even a super detailed guide on how to implement it on XDA somewhere. It has been accomplished already for all main mods, including JBL. (Maybe version 2)?
I tried bringing this guide to the attention of devs and got in **** for posting it in the development section so devs could see it lol
At least the battery mod will still charge the phone in recovery mode our little secret lol.
Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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Many people use Turbopower, and JBL.
Those are referenced over and over.
Most times, Turbopower works but efficiency mode does not.
JBL often works without volume control.
These Roms are all using the same basic foundation.
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Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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As I said: there is a tutorial which describes how to do this PROPERLY, without breaking anything, maybe a few things in the mods not working yet, but not breaking other things.
> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72601804&postcount=2 <
It has been done, can be done, and obviously can be done if Motorola can do it in the first place.
And as noted, many people do use mods. That is why any intelligent person would have bought this phone. It's not to satisfy a handful of people, it's to have our phones work as they are meant to work.
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As I said: there is a tutorial which I posted in this very forum which describes how to do this PROPERLY, without breaking anything.
It has been done, can be done, and obviously can be done if Motorola can do it in the first place.
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Well, there is quite a big difference between being Motorola, getting paid for it and having access to all necessary source code and being a dev doing that in your free time a having only limited access to necessary source codes
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Well, there is quite a big difference between being Motorola, getting paid for it and having access to all necessary source code and being a dev doing that in your free time a having only limited access to necessary source codes
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There is also a difference between competence and incompetence. The main mods used >already< work without issues except for the JBL mod, which is only an issue because of some proprietary code or driver or something.
But who the hell cares, that is what Bluetooth speakers are for.
All most people really care about is the battery mod and projector. Exclusive features like that without any simple/efficient alternatives.
These mods have worked stable in many custom ROMS when a little extra effort was made to make something competent. The only reason they are not working in Pie ROMS is because GSI's are universal and don't have them implemented in their base as they have been in past custom ROMS which were made FOR THIS PHONE...
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There is also a difference between competence and incompetence.
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While you call every ROM developer incompetent, when you know oh so much about that and how it had to be done, why haven't you just made your own ROM supporting every Moto mod?
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The only reason they are not working in Pie ROMS is because GSI's are universal and don't have them implemented as they have been in past custom ROMS...
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...And what was this thread about?
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There is also a difference between competence and incompetence. [\quote]
While you call every ROM developer incompetent, when you know oh so much about that and how it had to be done, why haven't you just made your own ROM supporting every Moto mod?
...And what was this thread about?
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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You complain most ROMs do not (fully) support mods, that means in your words those ROM developers are all incompetent
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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Neither did I claim to know so much, I simply shared what I found.. an observation, do you gather?
It's not cool twisting peoples words to try to make them look bad.
Why would I build a ROM that supports most mods: when it has been done, that makes no sense...
Neither does the attitude I have received while trying to relay this information to devs for the benefit of the entire Moto Z2 play community.
I am not a DEV, perhaps that is another reason why I don't build my own ROM.
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You complain most ROMs do not (fully) support mods, that means in your words those ROM developers are all incompetent
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By the very definition of competence, building something that doesn't fully work is technically incompetence IN REGARDS TO THIS SUBJECT MATTER.
Especially when it has been already achieved to some degree. I am not complaining, nor did i say "fully" either. I am highlighting this fact and this fact only, do you have an issue with facts, or just a problem with pretense?
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I am not a DEV, perhaps that is another reason why I don't build my own.
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Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually are instead of whining in several threads about devs deciding not to support it. You simply have no right to complain.
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Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually are instead of whining in several threads about devs deciding not to support it. You simply have no right to complain.
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Maybe you need to understand the concept of progress and a constructive attitude.
Calling it whining is literally just making things personal, and totally unnecessary.
You insist on trying to dictate my intention as negative, your problem, not mine.
The thing is that GSI roms are generic, I know. But I have not seen any developments in Android P working around the mod support, ¿There's no possible way to build a module that let the users use turbo power mod in GSI? We have a great phone with a great power mod and we can't use it. For me is absurd to use GSI if I cannot get the most out of it
"Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually ARE implementing this the same way the guy in the link I posted did....?"
But yet everyone is so fast to tell me nobody is and that nobody IS or has much interested in replicating his work, hmmm.
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Maybe you need to understand the concept of progress and a constructive attitude.
Calling it whining is literally just making things personal, and totally unnecessary.
You insist on trying to dictate my intention as negative, your problem, not mine.
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Then just read the thread you opened on that topic. That's basically the definition of whining. And you are surprised that it wasn't taken very well when you don't stick to the forum rules about what belongs in which section and write it with such an attitude basically telling anyone that reads it that you think most ROM devs are just lazy and don't care about their users interests
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The thing is that GSI roms are generic, I know. But I have not seen any developments in Android P working around the mod support, ¿There's no possible way to build a module that let the users use turbo power mod in GSI? We have a great phone with a great power mod and we can't use it. For me is absurd to use GSI if I cannot get the most out of it
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Be happy that at least you can get something out of it for now using recovery mode.
I say just be patient, Stock Pie shouldn't be that far off. And if you want CUSTOM PIE and mod support, well chances look good that it can be done when dev's have access to stock pie firmware?
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Then just read the thread you opened on that topic. That's basically the definition of whining. And you are surprised that it wasn't taken very well when you don't stick to the forum rules about what belongs in which section and write it with such an attitude basically telling anyone that reads it that you think most ROM devs are just lazy and don't care about their users interests
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Dude, please cease and desist and stop twisting things out of context. You are pretentiously whining about me sharing important information and expecting ROMS made for this phone to make use of something that allows mods to work for this phone. Give it a rest.
And that post was totally soiled by someone with an attitude similar to your own, the reason I broke forum rules was for citing blatent ignorance as ignorance. Yeah, ask me how bad I feel about that.
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That very developer removed mods support to improve the stability and performance of the Rom. And don't try to teach the developers how to create a ROM , we have only one left.
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MusicAlleyInc said:
That very developer removed mods support to improve the stability and performance of the Rom. And don't try to teach the developers how to create a ROM , we have only one left.
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So the same guy who claims he got these mods working stable and was promoting other people used what he learned, removes his work from his ROM because it makes it perform worse?
How does it impact performance? I have run at least 3 or 4 ROM with projector and turbo pack support that were absolutely fine and stable.
Also: it's fairly obvious this dude was the one trying to teach developers how to integrate mod support into their ROM, not me.
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A post of his from that thread:
"Rom discontinued
hey guys thanks for using this rom
sorry if i couldn't bring up ALL mods without bug (key word being ALL)
but i can't keep this rom updated anymore
so unfortunately i have to say Rom discontinued
this is mod apps update flashable zip to make new mods work https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620776495
all sources is online and ready for interested dev continue developing it"
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Sorry, but can you produce evidence of your claim?
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guys ! would you please stop bickering?
the OP of this thread wanted some insight about his problem and you use it to flame each-other ... this is not cool, huh?
I urge you to stop here, help the guy if possible and to keep it civil, I have trust in your cooperation, please don`t disappoint me...
thank you!
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Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?
Imo phone is solid out of the box. I have a 6p to mess around with.
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What "development" do you expect? With Xposed and a plethora of modules, there really is no need for specialized custom ROMs. All you need is a rock-solid base and off you go. You can even theme everything in the phone with the LG Apps Theme Engine.
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What "development" do you expect? With Xposed and a plethora of modules, there really is no need for specialized custom ROMs. All you need is a rock-solid base and off you go. You can even theme everything in the phone with the LG Apps Theme Engine.
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Cyanogenmod to start. Tbh I hate that response. That isn't helpful. It isn't just the V10. I have a GS6E+ as well. There is nothing on that front. I
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Cyanogenmod to start. Tbh I hate that response. That isn't helpful. It isn't just the V10. I have a GS6E+ as well. There is nothing on that front. I
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Then go ask the Cyanogen devs to support the V10. Complaining here accomplishes exactly nothing.
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Then go ask the Cyanogen devs to support the V10. Complaining here accomplishes exactly nothing.
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"Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?"
Where in that is exactly ... "complaining"? I asked a legitimate question. Seems that you are complaining about the question I asked.
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"Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?"
Where in that is exactly ... "complaining"? I asked a legitimate question. Seems that you are complaining about the question I asked.
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I used hyperbole. The fact remains that reaching out to devs directly will have far more effect than posting threads here.
It's not like they'll magically swoop in here and say "Oh guys, so sorry we haven't made anything for your phone yet, we'll get right on it!"
If you want to see action, post on Cyanogen's forum, open a github issue, or PM/mention devs who developed for LG phones in the past to see what their opinion is.
I can understand wanting to flash ROMs and such, it can definitely be fun, and it's good to have alternatives. But maybe i'm getting old, but i'm a bit tired of it nowadays: the bootloops, certain things not working, having to start over, the time wasted, missing phone calls from your girlfriend because you bootlooped and are constantly booted in recovery lmao. I think OEMs have come a long way since the early days of Android, so i'm usually good with rooted stock now, or a deodexed version. This phone already runs pretty great out of the box, so maybe try and enjoy it as it was made to be. And for sure with the Tmo model rootable, there's xposed, tweakbox, etc. But i definitely understand, OP, even flagship phones don't necessarily have as many custom ROMs as they used to.
The V10 is an awesome phone... But specialty development (cyanogen mod, AOSP) is going off a bit... First off development doesn't just happen... This is a brand new phone model, and although it uses a lot of the G4's hardware, there are a lot of differences, second screen being the biggest, also, t-mobiles version is currently the only one world wide with root access. Further hurting our chances. As for other flagship models, carriers and manufacturers, have been making it harder to root and modify phones... Which has been scaring development away... (why buy a phone you may never be able to modify?) if you want phones with a ton of options for development, I suggest you stick to either nexus devices, and /or something similar to the S series phones... That gets a ton of development... Plain and simple, T-Mobile is the only carrier on earth that doesn't care what you do to your phone. And from a development standpoint, this phone has only been out a little over 2 months, and currently has one model world wide with root access so unless someone Crack the bootloader on other models, or systemless root access becomes a reality with marshmallow, it's probably going to be a slow go... If you really want CM on your V10, (not sure why when you can strip this down to bare bones) you could build us all a rom... Seeing as you believe it's so easy...
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Thank you @ZDeuce2 and @YrrchSebor for telling it like it is. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Thank you @ZDeuce2 and @YrrchSebor for telling it like it is. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Plus I'd say nowadays in many cases, you lose more than you gain by erasing the software that skilled professionals have developed for your phone. Like you said, those guys good lol. Maybe carriers and/or other corporate/financial concerns might dumb things down or limit features, but root can be plenty enough to open things up for savvy users.
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Plus I'd say nowadays in many cases, you lose more than you gain by erasing the software that skilled professionals have developed for your phone. Like you said, those guys good lol. Maybe carriers and/or other corporate/financial concerns might dumb things down or limit features, but root can be plenty enough to open things up for savvy users.
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I agree. Outside of Nexus devices I found that Cyanogen has never had proper quality control and the maintainers do whatever they want. Random things are constantly broken and are never acknowledged or fixed. You never know whether a new nightly would fix things or just break things more, even if you followed the commit logs. It's certainly more of an enthusiast's endeavor rather than a rock-solid daily driver OS.
Then there is the garbage camera image quality on non-Nexus phones - the proprietary image processing libraries and other stuff from stock ROMs are just unrivaled and Cyanogen has never been able to match stock camera quality.
I found that especially in the last year or so, stock ROMs have really become robust and polished and I simply do not need to flash Cyanogen anymore to "unsuck" my phone. Root and Xposed are enough to clean up and customize the stock ROM the way I like it and make my phone perfect.
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I agree. Outside of Nexus devices I found that Cyanogen has never had proper quality control and the maintainers do whatever they want. Random things are constantly broken and are never acknowledged or fixed. You never know whether a new nightly would fix things or just break things more, even if you followed the commit logs. It's certainly more of an enthusiast's endeavor rather than a rock-solid daily driver OS.
Then there is the garbage camera image quality on non-Nexus phones - the proprietary image processing libraries and other stuff from stock ROMs are just unrivaled and Cyanogen has never been able to match stock camera quality.
I found that especially in the last year or so, stock ROMs have really become robust and polished and I simply do not need to flash Cyanogen anymore to "unsuck" my phone. Root and Xposed are enough to clean up and customize the stock ROM the way I like it and make my phone perfect.
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Yeah, agreed on all counts there..
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Yeah, agreed on all counts there..
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Only thing I would love to see is layers support added, then we would truly have a beast on our hands...
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ZDeuce2 said:
Only thing I would love to see is layers support added, then we would truly have a beast on our hands...
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It doesn't work yet? There's a thread on it, so I tried it and it did theme some stuff, but maybe it isn't fully working? Plus I could swear that my system update center broke after using the Inverted UI module
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It doesn't work yet? There's a thread on it, so I tried it and it did theme some stuff, but maybe it isn't fully working? Plus I could swear that my system update center broke after using the Inverted UI module
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It needs in rom support, which we don't have yet, to fully work completely. Probably why it seems like it broke stuff...
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If I knew how to build, and had a computer that wasn't a Commodore 64, I'd give it a shot, but as slow as my comps are we'll have well have Android Orange Cremesicle before it finishes building...
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If I knew how to build, and had a computer that wasn't a Commodore 64, I'd give it a shot, but as slow as my comps are we'll have well have Android Orange Cremesicle before it finishes building...
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LOL! Well, if I knew how to code, I could do it, but I don't... so yeah. Unless adding the support is simpler than recoding a bunch of APKs?
While more development is always great, I'm very happy with debloated and deodexed stock-based ROMs for the V10. @siraltus has done good work, and that's really all I need, the ability to root, run Xposed and be free from bloatware. I'm sort of over Cyanogenmod in terms of actually flashing it myself. The importance of CM in the history of Android can't be overstated, but for a device with such specialized hardware as the V10 (secondary display, DAC/Amp, etc.), I don't think CM would ever be as good as a stock-based ROM.
I even prefer a stock theme nowadays.... At least it's consistent throughout the system, and I know I'll be able to read any and all text on my phone lol.
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I even prefer a stock theme nowadays.... At least it's consistent throughout the system, and I know I'll be able to read any and all text on my phone lol.
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Nothing like a random white text on white background screen and you have no idea what it says... LOL.
@corsicanu suddenly stops developing of the AOD included AryaMod Note7 Port ROM because of some complaining people who can't wait some hours and keep nagging.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series/development/rom-aryamod-note7-port-v2-1-t3536186
Please, for the people it matters, convince him to continue developing!
He's not lazy to update his ROM and work out solving bugs, he always help!
The ROM is full of great Note 7 functions and he's trying to make it possible and create a bugless ROM, which is STABLE as now!!
Please, XDA members, convince him to come back and resume this great ROM!!!
Well, i dont blame him, not at all.
I myself am no dev, though have learned a lot here through reading, and that is exactly what people ARE NOT DOING, reading. Especially the A Series has a lot of members that dont bother thinking, it takes more time to ask a question rather then just have a search and see if people have asked something similar to you.
Long story short, a lot of members have 0 knowledge, 0 tolerance and 0 patience, but have HIGH expectations. This place is for twiddlers, not for people who want something changed and then disappear.
Remember, people do this for free, 100% out of pure will. Some may see it as a challenge, and some want to help. Even the one who may want donations, 95% of the A Series users are from developing countries, so most of the users here cannot afford to donate, and donations are very important if you want people like corsicanu around.
Me too he has real proplems in real life so he works in free time but everyone is asking for ETAs but he not A ROBOT see this different!!!!!!
@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
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Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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Yes you are right
Bulgaricus said:
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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We all hope so, dude.
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
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Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
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Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I will not give him but my files are ok I flashed it on my device and works now @Bulgaricus build ares kernel supporting A500H using my files and everything ok
@corsicanu is damn right, most of the people act like they are f*cking apes. Leave us do our job, we all have life and sh*t to do! Nothing in this world is perfect, or else to make something good and almost perfect it needs time! Don't act like hungry dogs against the devs, we are doing all our best if you don't like what we do then JUST F*CKING TRY DO IT YA OWN SELF
See I will not upload it and I will delete it from my device if that makes you happy
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
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For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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I learned how to port roms but I need to repair my pc and one wise man said
Cheers!!!
corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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I'm not gonna be anxious, I totally understand you. I'm not in the Telegram group, though, but it must be full of stupid questions then...
Some people just doesn't deserve an answer. Piss them off, a lot of users can't open developer settings, either.
Anyways, keep it up and we're waiting if you may come back!
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Im asking because i dont see no one talking about this, or mentioning it and i really want to know because if there's one thing i like its having the latest software, so i need to know if someone is already working on it or has the plan on working on it, if no one it's gonna even try i need to know so i can move on to honor 6x then.
Thanks for replying.
If you believe someone should work on oreo for this phone make this thread active!
thugs_2252 said:
Im asking because i dont see no one talking about this, or mentioning it and i really want to know because if there's one thing i like its having the latest software, so i need to know if someone is already working on it or has the plan on working on it, if no one it's gonna even try i need to know so i can move on to honor 6x then.
Thanks for replying.
If you believe someone should work on oreo for this phone make this thread active!
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You must understand one thing and that is, devs don't get paid for the work they do here. Sometimes they simply don't have the time to do work for the phone. They have jobs and families to feed too... That's why it's rude to ask when something will be done (ETA) . If you can't wait then consider contributing to the project otherwise just wait like the others.
MayB4ck said:
You must understand one thing and that is, devs don't get paid for the work they do here. Sometimes they simply don't have the time to do work for the phone. They have jobs and families to feed too... That's why it's rude to ask when something will be done (ETA) . If you can't wait then consider contributing to the project otherwise just wait like the others.
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Yes i perfectly understand i don't want nor a date nor an ETA just to know if someone will or is working on bringing 8.0 or 8.1 to this phone I'm no trying to be rude just want to know what to expect. ?
I don’t see the problem by asking, as far as I can see, It’s been abandoned. What I would like to see someone take a interest in adapting “android go” on this phone(hope a dev hears me), as it seems a perfect fit for it.
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I don’t see the problem by asking, as far as I can see, It’s been abandoned. What I would like to see someone take a interest in adapting “android go” on this phone(hope a dev hears me), as it seems a perfect fit for it.
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I hate xda on anything Apple, notice the two post. It may be deliberate, as a lot of android sites have problems( not too much else).
I think this has been stated before...
reggjoo said:
I don’t see the problem by asking, as far as I can see, It’s been abandoned. What I would like to see someone take a interest in adapting “android go” on this phone(hope a dev hears me), as it seems a perfect fit for it.
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I don’t see the problem by asking, as far as I can see, It’s been abandoned. What I would like to see someone take a interest in adapting “android go” on this phone(hope a dev hears me), as it seems a perfect fit for it.
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I hate xda on anything Apple, notice the two post. It may be deliberate, as a lot of android sites have problems( not too much else).
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Not abandoned, but I'm sure this has been stated in similar threads...."Got $50,000 for the devs to quit their jobs so they can focus exclusively on making ROMS? didn't think so!
Patience is a virtue, be patient it'll either come or it won't, it took over 6 months after Nougat came out for this device to receive the LOS version. Of course if you're not patient, you can always learn how to do your own portings and become a Dev.
Wolfhawke said:
Not abandoned, but I'm sure this has been stated in similar threads...."Got $50,000 for the devs to quit their jobs so they can focus exclusively on making ROMS? didn't think so!
Patience is a virtue, be patient it'll either come or it won't, it took over 6 months after Nougat came out for this device to receive the LOS version. Of course if you're not patient, you can always learn how to do your own portings and become a Dev.
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Got other things to worry about, I've already moved on.You can be a optimist for only so long, then you start looking like a fool(just a quote, not jumping on your post).
I think its a valid question.
I'm looking to buy a new phone. This one caught my attention. Knowing that some hardworking developers would continue with this phone is something I will take into account when buying.
Its a question I look into whenever I buy a new phone.
meekspace said:
I think its a valid question.
I'm looking to buy a new phone. This one caught my attention. Knowing that some hardworking developers would continue with this phone is something I will take into account when buying.
Its a question I look into whenever I buy a new phone.
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obsolescence is a fact of mobile devices. eventually they all become forgotten..... except maybe for nexus 5. damn i really miss that phone!! thankfully treble will help with that as all treble ROMs will work with any phone so long as it has be formatted for treble.
all new phones are forced to have treble when the ship with Oreo and up. this means that all you need is to unlock the bootloader and flash a treble base ROM and it will work.
sadly this means that you need to buy a new phone and abandon these non treble phones but i feel its for the better as the latest phones offer better bang for your buck and thanks to treble it will mean a greater longevity.
Whats about oreo Roms on Honor 5x ??
Oreo
Look
There is no and there will never be, so don't ask about.
Doom2014 said:
Look
There is no and there will never be, so don't ask about.
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Lineage 15 is available for kiwi
TheRealIntence said:
Lineage 15 is available for kiwi
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Can you be more specific please? Description, Download Links...
franzschenk said:
Can you be more specific please? Description, Download Links...
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https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962021903579482541
I strongly advise you to not flash it.
Agreed, it doesn't work. Tried it on L24.
Considering how quiet crPalmer and BadDaemon have been on the subject, I'm doubting the possibility of a LineageOS 15 ROM. Especially since P is on the horizon.
MetaruSonikkuX said:
Considering how quiet crPalmer and BadDaemon have been on the subject, I'm doubting the possibility of a LineageOS 15 ROM. Especially since P is on the horizon.
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There were some oreo related commits in the past but the contributors stopped working on it so I really dont think that we will get oreo on this device unless @BadDaemon, @coldhans or @crpalmer have a different opinion
TheRealIntence said:
There were some oreo related commits in the past but the contributors stopped working on it so I really dont think that we will get oreo on this device unless @BadDaemon, @coldhans or @crpalmer have a different opinion
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To include me in that company is flattering, but also misleading. I'm only a beginner myself.
I'm working on it independently, and I don't anticipate much collaboration with the LOS guys. They seem to prefer doing their own thing. You can track my work (and submit PRs if you'd like to contribute!) at https://github.com/kiwi-o
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To include me in that company is flattering, but also misleading. I'm only a beginner myself.
I'm working on it independently, and I don't anticipate much collaboration with the LOS guys. They seem to prefer doing their own thing. You can track my work (and submit PRs if you'd like to contribute!) at https://github.com/kiwi-o.
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The link you posted doesn't work. I get a 404. I'm curious though, have you gotten it to boot? Because as I said, Android P is on the horizon, and we haven't gotten a build that boots at the very least. Do you think there is any hope at all?
MetaruSonikkuX said:
The link you posted doesn't work. I get a 404. I'm curious though, have you gotten it to boot? Because as I said, Android P is on the horizon, and we haven't gotten a build that boots at the very least. Do you think there is any hope at all?
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Remove the dot at the end of the URL
As you can see on github, there actively working on it.
But it takes time because there many under-the-hood changes between nougat and oreo.
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coldhans said:
To include me in that company is flattering, but also misleading. I'm only a beginner myself.
I'm working on it independently, and I don't anticipate much collaboration with the LOS guys. They seem to prefer doing their own thing. You can track my work (and submit PRs if you'd like to contribute!) at https://github.com/kiwi-o.
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Alright thanks for the clarification
I really would like to contribute to it but first of all I have to get some resources on how AOSP works and stuff like that and then I have to check for problems and issues I might be able to solve with my programming skills ^^
If you have anything that could help me, I'd be very grateful
Then just write me a PM
I hoped it will released very soon
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Remove the dot at the end of the URL
As you can see on github, there actively working on it.
But it takes time because there many under-the-hood changes between nougat and oreo.
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Alright thanks for the clarification
I really would like to contribute to it but first of all I have to get some resources on how AOSP works and stuff like that and then I have to check for problems and issues I might be able to solve with my programming skills ^^
If you have anything that could help me, I'd be very grateful
Then just write me a PM
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I hoped it will released very soon
I’ve heard of some work on it, and some of the devs that worked on nougat roms ( on xda)have a rom that they’ve compiled, but it’s not on xda(?). I know the dev that made aicp rom for kiwi, is one.
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I’ve heard of some work on it, and some of the devs that worked on nougat roms ( on xda)have a rom that they’ve compiled, but it’s not on xda(?). I know the dev that made aicp rom for kiwi, is one.
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There are two, actually. Neither of them boot.
Android Pie is out. I guess this is the end for the Honor 5X?
MetaruSonikkuX said:
Android Pie is out. I guess this is the end for the Honor 5X?
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Not really. There still some devs out there who are actively developing on nougat, kernels or on porting oreo to kiwi.
coldhans said:
To include me in that company is flattering, but also misleading. I'm only a beginner myself.
I'm working on it independently, and I don't anticipate much collaboration with the LOS guys. They seem to prefer doing their own thing. You can track my work (and submit PRs if you'd like to contribute!) at https://github.com/kiwi-o
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Keep it up, if I had a spare one, I would help.
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MetaruSonikkuX said:
The link you posted doesn't work. I get a 404. I'm curious though, have you gotten it to boot? Because as I said, Android P is on the horizon, and we haven't gotten a build that boots at the very least. Do you think there is any hope at all?
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The person who made the ROM I use (AICP) may still be working on it, but he's not on XDA.
Doom2014 said:
Look
There is no and there will never be, so don't ask about.
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why honor 4x receives oreo update nd honor 5x not:crying::crying::crying:
sheryar_rao said:
why honor 4x receives oreo update nd honor 5x not:crying::crying::crying
Don't know, but don't ask that question, you'll get negative feedback here. Don't pay attention to any post that claim there's a LOS 15 for it(don't ask in their forum, they'll cuss you out). Devs are very ego- centric, and will say don't ask, or do it yourself. I don't really care too much anymore, and will replace this with a phone that can get Oreo(or pie), soon, as this seems to be a lost cause now.
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Please pay a bit more attention to the reason why most of us bought this phone: https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-review-885207/
Must I stress this? I'm sure I am not the only one getting annoyed by the lack of Moto Mod support in most current Custom Roms.
(Pixel Experience and Lineage 15.1 implementing it the best when it comes to 8.1)
There is even an entire sub redit complaining about this...
I am no developer myself, but here it is laid out on how to make a ROM that supports most Moto Mods, this seemed a bit buried and hard to find, but seems extremely useful as if someone has already done the nitty gritty work:
There is a detailed Mod Porting tutorial at the bottom of this thread:
> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72601804&postcount=2 <
And I don't know if this is possible but it would also be great to have something like a flashable zip or base that supported Moto Mods for treble or/GSI ROMS in the future.
If anyone can get a Pie rom working with MODS soon enough, you'll beat Motorola to it. Think about that... you could work for them, because sadly it's something they haven't accomplished yet lol.
This should be in MOTO Z2 PLAY GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION.
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
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I looked and I found that it is possible to have more than the battery mod support, hence this post. The ROM I am on now, lineage 15.1 (Oreo 8.1 with November security patch)> works with my projector mode also.
Past custom Roms have also supported more than the battery mod.
I hope I don't have to explain the concept of looking to you, there are no Devs currently, development is not dead, they are waiting for/working on Pie. That you would know if you have been looking and reading the forums and posts by Devs.
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This should be in MOTO Z2 PLAY GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION.
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Tell me, where is it more likely to be seen by Devs?
MusicAlleyInc said:
I looked and I found that it is possible to have more than the battery mod support, hence this post. The ROM I am on now, lineage 15.1 (Oreo 8.1 with November security patch)> works with my projector mode also.
Past custom Roms have also supported more than the battery mod.
I hope I don't have to explain the concept of looking to you, there are no Devs currently, development is not dead, they are waiting for/working on Pie. That you would know if you have been looking and reading the forums and posts by Devs.
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For your information, one of the old Devs here said only battery mod for z2 play because the other mods caused too many problems on custom ROMs. Also, nobody is working on pie on xda for z2p. The Devs that where here all left, they are not waiting, they moved on.
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For your information, one of the old Devs here said only battery mod for z2 play because the other mods caused too many problems on custom ROMs. Also, nobody is working on pie on xda for z2p. The Devs that where here all left, they are not waiting, they moved on.
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Even tho I have proof of the projector mod working very stable on my phone on lineage 15.1 January security update???? And other mods in the link I supplied in the post??? Cool story...
The whole point of this post was to help devs like that accomplish it. I am guessing this is one reason why many give up...You have no idea how incorrect you are obviously, I have read 2 devs for these mod compatible ROMS state they were waiting for Pie. Because 8.1 is sufficiently accomplished now. Waiting= no current activity/posts/8.1 updates. I just technically had a dev here work on lineage 15.1 for me yesterday, compiling the new security update.
Want the link to this best ROM for the phone right now or can you LOOK for it by yourself? Thanks to me it's really not hard to find.
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Even tho I have proof of the projector mod working very stable on my phone on lineage 15.1 January security update???? And other mods in the link I supplied in the post??? Cool story...
The whole point of this post was to help devs like that accomplish it. I am guessing this is one reason why many give up...You have no idea how incorrect you are obviously, I have read 3 devs for these mod compatible ROMS state they were waiting for Pie. Because 8.1 is sufficiently accomplished now. Waiting= no current activity/posts/8.1 updates. I just had a dev here work in lineage 15.1 for me yesterday, compiling the new security update.
Want the link to this best ROM for the phone right now or can you LOOK for it by yourself? Thanks to me it's really not hard to find.
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I was going to respond to your misunderstandings but, had to much of a giggle at your progressive edits to further attack me. Goodbye, no time for you.
Please explain this misunderstanding of mine:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3731228/page42
And look where that got me. 2 stable mods, 8.1 64 bit, January security patch and even a microg version.
Again I will add another screenshot taken from the post about mod compatibility.
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Fact: A Dev compiled a security update for lineage albus yesterday. Another made a microg variant a few weeks ago.
Fact: the link in this post is how stable mod support can be accomplished.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
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K.O.
This was your original comment, you were clearly claiming we only have battery mod support now, and why that is.
On a post containing information to why that is not, and how we can achieve more than that.
Like wow...
MusicAlleyInc said:
K.O.
This was your original comment, you were clearly claiming we only have battery mod support now, and why that is.
On a post containing information to why that is not, and how we can achieve more than that.
Like wow...
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Correct, I was claiming based on the last information I had from a Dev. And you seem to have found the answer, I stand corrected. Finished?
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Correct, I was claiming based on the last information I had from a Dev. And you seem to have found the answer, I stand corrected. Finished?
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Sure, please enjoy the ROM.
I was initially perturbed mostly because you told me to go look, when I had already spent countless hours looking and finding. Thanks for acknowledging this.
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It's gonna be more likely to be seen in the right thread section (as now). Otherwise it looks like you believe that you are higher than the rules we all here try to respect (the convenient thing is to keep each section ordered).
Have a nice day. :good:
guys, guuuys !! You done bickering, have you?
Now please have a look back at your posts, they look better, don`t they?
Further inflammatory posts containing disrespectful and useless remarks like "stupid, idiotic, butt-hurt" and so on will be removed and not only edited would also unleash some "respectful" pm`s straight to your inbox.
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if it is a discussion then it must take place in this section, and "to be more visible" this is up to the level of conversation, what needs to be seen it will be always seen.
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Please keep it civil and enjoy the forums.
Thank you!
as long as the topic has drastically changed its direction and no one is interested anymore, I`ll be closing it.
I have nicely requested to keep it civil but it seems that no one cares. @MusicAlleyInc message me please when you think this thread can continue on the topic that has been created and I will reopen it.
Thanks for understanding
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