Samsung Galaxy Tab A - internal storage - to root or not to root? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a stock Galaxy Tab A - SM-P580 - 16GB. I am using a 200GB SD card. I am running up against the wonderful internal storage issue. I have less than 1GB of free internal storage. It says I have 7GB in Apps. I assume the rest of the storage is being used by the Android OS. I would like to move a pile of this to the SD card but am not being allowed to. I have read about using various mods that will allow me to use the SD card (partial or fully) as internal storage and I have read pros and cons regarding doing that. I need to do something so I am asking: what is the best path to take here? Caveat: This excludes buying a new tablet with more internal memory. Thank you all!

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[Q] Internal SD, External SD and app2SD questions

I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)
Frogbone said:
I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)
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From what I understand, app2sd functionality is built into Froyo & beyond. No need for a separate app.
In laymans terms, your 16GB internal sd is split in 2, 2GB for apps & 14 gb for data.I have 88 apps installed & it is only using 492MB of the 2GB. Apps install to the 2GB area, but the (and the system) use the 14 GB data area for storage. You can also use this space for dat/files storage as well.
The external microsd slot is generally used by you for data storage. You can use it for what ever you like. I use mine to store copies of different roms/nvflash, movies/video/pictures & music transferred from the PC.

[Q] Applications installed on internal storage?

Hi, I'm having some issues with the internal storage of my Galaxy S II
I'll start by noting that I don't have an external SD card inserted, what I'm trying to accomplish is using the internal storage of the device.
As everyone knows, the GSII has around 11.5GB of available internal storage, and 2GB of system storage (all part of the device's 16GB total internal storage). Anyway, normally when I download an app, it's installed to that 2GB reserve, which fills up quickly. In theory, I should be able to easily move the apps from the 2GB partition, to the ~11.5GB one using the inbuilt move to SD card function under Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>*application*, but I get a "Failed to move application: not enough memory" error. I've also tried using App2SD, and have read a few guides online on this issue (with the GSII and others), to no avail.
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on to how I can move the application from the 2GB partition, to the ~11.5GB one? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Why don't Android ICS apps detect my external SD card?

Hi guys I am new to android and I got myself a Micromax A110 running on android ics with 2 gb of internal SD card memory...
As you guys can figure, the internal memory just isn't enough for installing heavy games and storing and downloading large videos and music, so I added a 32 gb external micro SD card.. the card shows in my file manager and its contents are accessible, most apps like ttpod, ttorrent, vlc, chrome etc don't detect my external card. They only access the contents of my internal SD card, download to it.. I can't set the default directory to the external card...
When I installed nfs most wanted to my phone, it asked me to free up data in my SD card or insert another one as there was no space left due to obvious reasons of my internal SD card being filled with other apps.. I uninstalled and reinstalled it after setting the default storage location to the external storage... I found that the game installed in the internal storage this time and on startup, it gave the same message..
Is it a common problem or a limitation to the OS? Is there a work around for this? If so how? Does my phone needs to be rooted for the purpose? Please help as the problem is getting annoying.. my external card is lying almost empty...
Thanks in advance,
Extremely sorry for the long post...
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It's because Google made the stupid decision, starting with Honeycomb (which is why the Motorola Xoom, the first Honeycomb device needed an update to enable use of it's MicroSD card slot) to merge the /data/ and /sdcard/ partitions. What that means is that the SD card becomes a virtual space (a folder, in fact) located in the same place where all your apps are stored. Why is it stupid? If you have a phone that actually has a MicroSD card slot, like yours or the Galaxy S III, the MicroSD card becomes a different "folder" (something like /sdext/, which stands for either extension or external). Only apps that specifically are programmed to look for that mount point/folder will be able to use it. Most music/video/picture players/viewers can, because it makes sense to automatically program to do that. But with large games, like you said, NFS Most Wanted (which I also have), it sucks because the game is like 2GB.
My Galaxy S3 has 16GB internal and a 32GB card. I'm forced to use the internal storage only for large games because they don't see the memory card. It sucks. The good thing about merging /data/ and /sdcard/ is that it simplifies things, like on the iPhone where your space is your space, no matter how you use it. It used to be that you had like 1GB or 2GB for apps (the APK files only, not the files that games download for example) (which the HTC One X does, but still only uses internal storage because there's no card slot), and the rest went to your MicroSD card slot. Now it's all to internal storage because your internal storage IS your MicroSD card slot at system level.
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It's because Google made the stupid decision, starting with Honeycomb (which is why the Motorola Xoom, the first Honeycomb device needed an update to enable use of it's MicroSD card slot) to merge the /data/ and /sdcard/ partitions. What that means is that the SD card becomes a virtual space (a folder, in fact) located in the same place where all your apps are stored. Why is it stupid? If you have a phone that actually has a MicroSD card slot, like yours or the Galaxy S III, the MicroSD card becomes a different "folder" (something like /sdext/, which stands for either extension or external). Only apps that specifically are programmed to look for that mount point/folder will be able to use it. Most music/video/picture players/viewers can, because it makes sense to automatically program to do that. But with large games, like you said, NFS Most Wanted (which I also have), it sucks because the game is like 2GB.
My Galaxy S3 has 16GB internal and a 32GB card. I'm forced to use the internal storage only for large games because they don't see the memory card. It sucks. The good thing about merging /data/ and /sdcard/ is that it simplifies things, like on the iPhone where your space is your space, no matter how you use it. It used to be that you had like 1GB or 2GB for apps (the APK files only, not the files that games download for example) (which the HTC One X does, but still only uses internal storage because there's no card slot), and the rest went to your MicroSD card slot. Now it's all to internal storage because your internal storage IS your MicroSD card slot at system level.
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Hey man! Thanks for the reply....
Can you tell me how to work out a solution for this?
Is directory bind or fstab file hack the only solution?
Is it possible to overcome this without root?
And some apps do detect my Micro SD card... It is in the directory mnt/sdcard2
Please post questions one time only and in the proper Q&A section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019921

[Q] Is it possible extend the app storage partition of your phone memory?

Hello experts,
I have a question regarding my phone's internal memory. My new android 4.2.1 phone has 32GB of phone storage, but only 1.5 gigabytes of that is allocated to the "internal storage" partition for app installations etc. The rest is used as an internal SD card for data storage. I also have an actual SD Card of 32GB.
I find the 1.5GB of internal storage a little bit too low and I fear to run out of memory in a few months of intensive use. As I have a large external SD card it is a bit useless for me to also have a huge internal SD card partition and I'd rather add some of that to the 1.5GB of internal storage for apps.
I have googled for quite some time now, but I can only find threads of people trying to extend their internal storage by partitioning an external SD card. This is NOT the same as my problem as my phone storage is large enough but just not properly allocated in my view.
So my question is as follows: is it possible to add a few GB's from my phone storage to my internal storage?
Thanks in advance!
Sander
Hi, been looking for the same thing for my note 10.1
So far best info in,
galaxy s2 original android development,
Aug 31
"Guild -enlarge datafs partition and get rid of internal sd (ums)"
Has a link to "pit magic"
Good luck and let us all know the results, it's a bit above me I think....
Thanks
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Jet Opto tablet running 4.4.2 - struggling with moving Apps to SD card despite root

Hi All,
I have a Jet Opto tablet with 16GB of internal storage running Android 4.4.2 model RSEIII. I’d like to install applications such as Amazon Prime & Plex onto an external SD card as the internal memory fills up extremely fast. The internal memory appears to have been split 2GB for applications and 11GB for ‘media’. I have rooted the tablet using Kingoroot and tried the full version of Link2SD but am struggling, possibly because it looks like when trying to move Amazon Prime the media partition appears to be the only SD card. Using root explorer I can see the external SD card (which I’ve formatted 2G FAT32 and 28GB EXT4). It is possible to move applications to the 11GB partition but I’m after more space. It’s a tablet from an Audi and I’d rather not change the ROM unless there’s a surefire way of backing up the original so I can restore it later. I’d be grateful for any help – if you need any more info please let me know.
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