why 6x and 10x zoom are extremely bad? - OPPO Reno 10x Zoom Questions & Answers

zooming to 6x and 10x
is extremely bad
soft details and out off focus
why this problem?
i had p30 pro
zoom is impressive

Only 5x zoom is optical. 6x and 10x are hybrid (mix of optical and software), so they will obviously be not sharp. Limit zoom usage to just 5x.

ramdante said:
Only 5x zoom is optical. 6x and 10x are hybrid (mix of optical and software), so they will obviously be not sharp. Limit zoom usage to just 5x.
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problem fixed after removing Google camera apk
it was effecting the stock zoom
but where is 5x zoom in stock?

rowihel2012 said:
problem fixed after removing Google camera apk
it was effecting the stock zoom
but where is 5x zoom in stock?
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GCam was affecting stock camera? That is so strange! Which GCam port were you using?
There is no button to go straight to 5x but you can pinch zoom or press and hold the zoom toggle and move it left or right.

adityakar said:
GCam was affecting stock camera? That is so strange! Which GCam port were you using?
There is no button to go straight to 5x but you can pinch zoom or press and hold the zoom toggle and move it left or right.
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what is the use off speakers in the front camera part?

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Gcam MOD G7 working on V40 (not everything)

Hey guys, last update of GCam for G7thinq working on out device! (not everything is working obviously).
Working:
- main camera with HDR
- wide angle
- portrait
- video at 1080p
- H265 video recording
- night sight (but lags)
Edit: apk with working wide angle (thanks to @Whoareyou)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQq...w?usp=drivesdk
Enable Add AUX
Now switching between front and back camera twice is your switch to wide angle and back!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/themes/app-google-camera-gcam-lg-g7-thinq-t3855081
Cheers!
Here is an example of stock (top) vs Gcam (bottom). Gcam preserves more details (check bricks for example), and makes low light images a bit more clean overall.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14j-1hnBAVNeIdqufDQP8F3UeH4swnZ7x/view?usp=sharing
The v40 has a very similar night mode, it just doesn't do much and conflicts with the flash. They seem to have tried but quit
I have an apk I found with working Wide angle but I am not sure which one it is (I've got a few in my downloads ?) I'll upload it here when I figure out which it is.
Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQqhAxvcDEQZN8MGu1Qg3WgtuiI7Cyex/view?usp=drivesdk
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Switch to wide angle:
Switch to ffc
Switch back to rear
It should now be using wide angle.
@Whoareyou great find man! Works well!
For unfamiliar folks, what makes Google Camera great is the software post processing, particularly Google's HDR, which I never turn off, and portrait - great results. Also somehow GCam manages to preserve more details compared to LG's camera. Now we have working wide angle, I can switch to GCam completely, at least for photos. Night sight working as well, we just have to deal with lag in viewfinder.
Whoareyou said:
I have an apk I found with working Wide angle but I am not sure which one it is (I've got a few in my downloads ) I'll upload it here when I figure out which it is.
Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQqhAxvcDEQZN8MGu1Qg3WgtuiI7Cyex/view?usp=drivesdk
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Switch to wide angle:
Switch to ffc
Switch back to rear
It should now be using wide angle.
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Thanks for the link, but am I missing something as far as fixing the extreme lag with the view finder and image capture? Between hitting the capture button and the actual image being taken is several seconds, and the viewfinder lag makes it very hard to use.
I have lag only in night sight mode.
Shutter button works only on second touch for me. And yes, GCam takes a moment to take a picture compared to stock camera, that's just how it works on on phone.
twoxa said:
I have lag only in night sight mode.
Shutter button works only on second touch for me. And yes, GCam takes a moment to take a picture compared to stock camera, that's just how it works on on phone.
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The viewfinder is laggy no matter what for me, and it takes much longer than a moment for the shutter button to register for me. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with some future modded APK. The camera that comes stock with the V40 is already pretty good, but having night sight and Google's HDR would be the cherry on top.
larkhillv said:
The viewfinder is laggy no matter what for me, and it takes much longer than a moment for the shutter button to register for me. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with some future modded APK. The camera that comes stock with the V40 is already pretty good, but having night sight and Google's HDR would be the cherry on top.
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Sounds like you missing something in settings. Make sure buffer fix is on on settings - bsg - fixes
twoxa said:
Sounds like you missing something in settings. Make sure buffer fix is on on settings - bsg - fixes
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It worked! Thank you much more functional now.
so when i try to take a picture it just doesnt take a pic.. also the shutter speed is insanely slow..

portrait cam Alternative

I just used the portrait mode of my friends pixel 3 xl and there is a great difference.
Are there any news on pixel cam for the huawei mate 20 pro? Or is there any alternative which does portrait better then the stock cam?
use aperture mode , i find its better than portrait mode and you can adjust the blur etc after
buxz777 said:
use aperture mode , i find its better than portrait mode and you can adjust the blur etc after
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But I can't use aperture mode with front cam, need something for front

P30 pro features/issues people don't talk about much

Hi there,
I wanted to start a discussion about stuff that we like/dislike about this phone, but not the obvious stuff - rather things that are not much talked about. When I read about this phone, most popular topics are about fingerprint sensor, screen resolution, 50x zoom, night mode...
So first, things I don't like:
1. Aspect ratio issues:
- No 16:9 photos aspect ratio.
- Screen 19.5:9 aspect ratio can cause issues in games/applications that only support 16:9 aspect ratio. It's not a huge issue, because most apps support wide screen. It's also the same for other wide screen phones.
- Screen mirroring to TV - because of 19.5:9 aspect ratio, there are black bars on top and bottom, so when you are viewing 4:3 photos on 16:9 TV, the photo is very small and shown only in the center of TV with black bars around it. I don't know how other wide screen phones work, but I guess the same way.
2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom.
- How different lenses view is synced - widescreen and normal 1x are in sync when changing between them, you get basically the picture in the same position, but 5x optical and normal are just so much out of sync, that it is very very visible how it switches when you go from 4.9x to 5x. Not a huge issue, but it could be better.
- There is no level indicator in other modes than pro.
3. Speaker:
- The quality is OK at most, when compared to Samsung for example (Samsung S10 has amazing speakers), but it's a phone after all, so I don't expect much anyway.
Now things I like:
1. Huawei Share. My god, this thing is amazing. You can just connect your PC to your phone with WiFi and browse files normally as if it was connected with a usb cable! That is truly amazing. I didn't have it in Xiaomi, newest Samsung phones also don't have it. Why nobody talks about this amazing feature?
2. Camera app:
- Amazing zoom possibilities, 5x zoom which I'm using constantly during my trips and I don't know how people can say they don't use it much. There is something called perspective and this photo shows what I'm talking about. You can get especially amazing pictures when you have mountains in the background. So much discussed 50x zoom is not really usable, but 20x still has amazing quality.
- All different modes, especially the light painting/silky water is nice. Also the pro mode with so many different settings and 30 seconds shutter time. There are much more modes and possibilities than most youtube reviewers show us. They usually just show night mode, 5x zoom, 50x zoom and that's it. Like that's just 10% of options in that app! When you really start knowing the app, it is just much better than Samsung or Xiaomi camera apps. You can shoot much better pictures when you know what you are doing.
3. EMUI:
- I really like this system, the icons, design, features, it's really nice. I don't know how anyone can 'hate' this system? I came to EMUI from Xiaomi and Samsung phones and for me it's just better.
Huawei P30 Pro is my first Huawei phone and I must say I'm really impressed by the price/quality ratio. What are your thoughts?
Point 2: tray to rec videos with opencam or edgecam. You can choose 1x camera and zoom in or you can choose 5x camera. No changes between they.
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom."
this to me is a huge issue...as i was trying to photo one of our dogs in evening time and it would only zoom via digital.....every now and then it would flicker to ultra clear optical but not for long enough to get a shot.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
i can imagine being in the same situation as you recording a gig and that would be troublesome.
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To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
dougm1970 said:
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
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Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
Neo Cortex said:
Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
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thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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dougm1970 said:
thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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You just tap the icon to switch to the selfie camera and when you tap it again it takes you to the next lens. I discovered it by accident
HDJ80 said:
To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
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Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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With edgecam or opencam you can choose the lense.
If you choose 1x lense an make zoom is only digital zoom.
For 5x optical zoom you must change to 5x lense.
Pivoo said:
Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
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Mine stays on optical all the time in video.
Yes pictures are generally better with AI but OC enables you to stay with optical even when light is low.
Issue :ghost notifications.
By ghost notifications i mean there is a sound and vibration but nothing else. Now I am pretty used to them, but from day one and after a couple of updates, they are still present. I have disable notifications from almost all apps except messaging ones, but ghost notifications keep going! Even during night with flight mode on. ?
HDJ80 said:
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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Where do I find Edgecam? It's not in the UK Play Store as far as I can see.
Sorry, hedgecam 2.
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Actually you can turn it off.
Go to Settings ---> Sounds (or Tones) then pick the last entry and deactivate Lockscreen sound.
I don't know how it looks in english, as my native language is German
n-j-f said:
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Go to sound > more sound settings > screen lock. Disable it and there u go.

Question More Zoom?

The Pixel 6 only gets 2x digital zoom with it's main sensor whereas the Pixel 6 Pro will zoom until 4x or even 8x digital zoom before switching to the telephoto sensor. Is there any way to bring more digital zoom to the regular 6?
The P6P zooms 0.67x to 20x on the side with 3 sensors, 0.85x to 10x on the screen side.
While I'm not running the google image (google free AOSP here), I recall the camera application had some buttons to quickly switch between resolutions. 0.7x to the wide lens (middle position), 1.0x and 2.0x to the main lens (side opposite flash), 4.0x to the telephoto lens.
I don't remember this exactly, but people are saying that the screen side camera has quick zoom buttons showing 0.7x and 1.0x, even though it is 0.85x per the HAL (on the P6P), therefore it looks like Google is mucking with the values being presented to the users. Probably because they think it looks better to have the wide ratio match and a whole number for the sensor switch.
In reality, it switches to the telephoto lens at 4.3x. BUT, it can ride the main sensor all the way to 20x if the proximity sensor reading is "near"-ish.
It picks the sensor based on a combination of proximity and zoom level, and maybe even other factors that are not yet apparent.
Anyway, the quick buttons shouldn't be thought of as the ONLY zoom levels that are reachable. As far as I understand it, even the P6 (non-P) should be able to get the high digital zoom levels. I'd suggest you try to use the pinch gesture to zoom out and see how far it lets you go.

Question Night mode on 10x is garbage

Has anyone noticed too much noise on the 10x lens in nightmode?
Ummmm...f/4.9 apperture, what do you expect from a 1/3.52" sensor.
The perisope is a lens for good (day) light.
You wouldn't shut your Canon 250mm f/5.6 at night without tripod.
amirage said:
Has anyone noticed too much noise on the 10x lens in nightmode?
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The telephoto lens' aren't meant for nightography. Use 1x at night.
Install camera assistant then go into the stock camera settings and do the following...
Camera Assistant
Auto lens switching
Toggle auto lens switching off
This has you truly using the lens you've selected. Cause ordinarily the camera crops the main lens in sometimes even when you choose 3x or 10x lens. Ridiculous! Makes the zoom grainy as hell
lawtq said:
Install camera assistant then go into the stock camera settings and do the following...
Camera settings
Auto lens switching
Toggle auto lens switching off
This has you truly using the lens you've selected. Cause ordinarily the camera crops the main lens in sometimes even when you choose 3x or 10x lens. Ridiculous! Makes the zoom grainy as hell
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OMG thank you! I was wondering about that!
EtherealRemnant said:
OMG thank you! I was wondering about that!
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It worked? It improved my pics
Wow why isn't this known more... first time seeing this
joewoo said:
Wow why isn't this known more... first time seeing this
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Is ridiculous isn't it. Cropping the main lens to give us grainy hell. Works sometimes for the situation but for me it's more of a miss than a hit
lawtq said:
Is ridiculous isn't it. Cropping the main lens to give us grainy hell. Works sometimes for the situation but for me it's more of a miss than a hit
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Then turn off auto lens switching. I haven't had any issues since installing camera assistant.
Excellent app this camera assistant app!!
But , I can't understand why Samsung don't want to insert camera assistant app and expert raw app to the main camera app !!!
Check this out 100x orion belt
gpap2004 said:
Excellent app this camera assistant app!!
But , I can't understand why Samsung don't want to insert camera assistant app and expert raw app to the main camera app !!!
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They are both there.
Camera Assistant is accessible through settings, near the bottom.
Expert Raw is one of the available modes, like Night and Portrait. Scroll the modes until you see More. Tap, and you'll see the additional modes. You can move them to the main screen if you want.
drzeller said:
They are both there.
Camera Assistant is accessible through settings, near the bottom.
Expert Raw is one of the available modes, like Night and Portrait. Scroll the modes until you see More. Tap, and you'll see the additional modes. You can move them to the main screen if you want.
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Ok , but you need to download these first in order to see their menus inside camera app. AND when you try to move Expert raw in main menu camera, you can't because the Expert Raw button becomes grey

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