Ask: Decrypting Data on Vince - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers

Is there a way to decrypt Data partition on Vince(Redmi 5 plus). Because as I remember before updating to MIUI10 decrypting the Data partition was an ease (by formatting it), but now I can't do the same after updating to MIUI10 and switching to custom ROM.

In orange fox u can format the data partition.

joke19 said:
In orange fox u can format the data partition.
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So do in TWRP, but after rebooting i get it encrypted again. What i want is i get the data partition always decrypted without the need to format whenever i want to flash something

kibing said:
So do in TWRP, but after rebooting i get it encrypted again. What i want is i get the data partition always decrypted without the need to format whenever i want to flash something
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Sorry, English is not my language. But after I gone away from miui to a customer rom, I format my data partition after I backup my apps. That's is all. At the beginning before u set ur account and all (or was that somewhere in middle), my phone asked me to crypt my phone. Sorry I had never this problem. Simple how-to by every build and I tested many roms.

joke19 said:
Sorry, English is not my language. But after I gone away from miui to a customer rom, I format my data partition after I backup my apps. That's is all. At the beginning before u set ur account and all (or was that somewhere in middle), my phone asked me to crypt my phone. Sorry I had never this problem. Simple how-to by every build and I tested many roms.
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I never get the part "phone ask me to crypt..."
but i think i'll try the latest Orange Fox Recovery, hopefully it can solve my problem..

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[Q] Doubts about android 8.1

Yesterday I installed a ROM (Unofficial Resurrection Remix) thanks to EndLess and it seemed great, really very good work with the system. But when I went to restore the original rom of the phone "TWRP" asks me for an unlock pattern, after putting it and restoring the original system image, I am ready to boot the system. The system starts well, but asks me for the same pattern to start the boot. Then the loading process continues and I get to the part of setting the unlock pattern to start Android. Here's my problem, the pattern I used is the same one that I used the previous 2 times and it does not work.
Therefore I have 4 questions:
1- Is it possible to delete the encryption of the phone and leave it as it was before installing Android 8.1?
2- Is it possible to access my previous system?
3- I noticed that this room does not come with root activated, is it possible to root the ROOM?
4- If I put a new unlock pattern, will the current one be overwritten in the encryption or will the phone simply not find a way to boot and I will have a beautiful paperweight?
Thanks in advance.
Please forgive my English, it is not my native language
brito9112 said:
Yesterday I installed a ROM (Unofficial Resurrection Remix) thanks to EndLess and it seemed great, really very good work with the system. But when I went to restore the original rom of the phone "TWRP" asks me for an unlock pattern, after putting it and restoring the original system image, I am ready to boot the system. The system starts well, but asks me for the same pattern to start the boot. Then the loading process continues and I get to the part of setting the unlock pattern to start Android. Here's my problem, the pattern I used is the same one that I used the previous 2 times and it does not work.
Therefore I have 4 questions:
1- Is it possible to delete the encryption of the phone and leave it as it was before installing Android 8.1?
2- Is it possible to access my previous system?
3- I noticed that this room does not come with root activated, is it possible to root the ROOM?
4- If I put a new unlock pattern, will the current one be overwritten in the encryption or will the phone simply not find a way to boot and I will have a beautiful paperweight?
Thanks in advance.
Please forgive my English, it is not my native language
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As it seems that you encrypted your device somehow by chance.
1. Before installing any rom you have to format your data First. That'll Remove the pattern.
2. Accessing the old system depends upon your access. If you are now encrypted then no actually.
3. Yea just flash magisk zip and the rom will be rooted.
4. Expect an out of the world paper weight.
MyNameIsRage said:
As it seems that you encrypted your device somehow by chance.
1. Before installing any rom you have to format your data First. That'll Remove the pattern.
2. Accessing the old system depends upon your access. If you are now encrypted then no actually.
3. Yea just flash magisk zip and the rom will be rooted.
4. Expect an out of the world paper weight.
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Thanks for the quick response, would you be so kind as to explain to me what do you mean by "format your data first"?
You mean to delete all the partitions of the phone and install everything from 0 ??
How am I supposed to do that? I have a save from the previous system, I told "TWRP" to save all the partitions in my phone. If I restore that backup, will my device be decrypted?
brito9112 said:
Thanks for the quick response, would you be so kind as to explain to me what do you mean by "format your data first"?
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Boot to TWRP, and select "Format data". You will lose all your data, plus the contents of your internal SD - but the encryption will be gone. You should back up your internal SD (either to an external SD drive, or your PC, etc) before trying any of this. I hope you have backups of your data.
DarthJabba9 said:
Boot to TWRP, and select "Format data". You will lose all your data, plus the contents of your internal SD - but the encryption will be gone. You should back up your internal SD (either to an external SD drive, or your PC, etc) before trying any of this. I hope you have backups of your data.
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Thanks for answering, i will try your method in a few minutes, by the way, with format you mean wipe data partition, right?
brito9112 said:
Thanks for answering, i will try your method in a few minutes, by the way, with format you mean wipe data partition, right?
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When you select "wipe" on main menu. There will we two options at bottom. One will say "Format data" and another will say "Partition" select format data. It will open a new screen saying that format data will delete all the data and Remove encryption. Type yes and continue. However backup your data before doing this. Better copy the files using mtp from recovery or system.
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When you select "wipe" on main menu. There will we two options at bottom. One will say "Format data" and another will say "Partition" select format data. It will open a new screen saying that format data will delete all the data and Remove encryption. Type yes and continue. However backup your data before doing this. Better copy the files using mtp from recovery or system.
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I saw that option later, thanks to all who help, my system was recover. The only strange thing was the lock pattern. I delete from /data/system/ this 2 files, "gatekeeper.password.key" and "gatekeeper.pattern.key". Use TWRP as file manager and my phone good as new.

Twrp on redmi 6a

I flashed twrp on my redmi 6a, but i haven't been able to succeed at formatting data, or anything from advanced wipe. Also ADB sideload has refused to start. First i thougt it was because of the encrypted data and tried every way to decrypt like flashing universal disabler before magisk. I noticed that preserve force encryption in magisk was unticked but twrp still asked for the password and also my root was screwed big time and most apps couldn't find it, so i flashed the stocked rom and started afresh, now i want to try resurrection remix(not sure it's a good idea) but process is involved with formatting data and advanced wipe. I'm using twrp 3.2.3.2-cactus. Some help
it seems that no one can solve encryption problem in twrp?
All google result said that this should be formatting data partition. One question is: how could the format partition data whlie the partition is untouchable?
adista said:
it seems that no one can solve encryption problem in twrp?
All google result said that this should be formatting data partition. One question is: how could the format partition data whlie the partition is untouchable?
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Use the TWRP-1020 one.
jonaaa, how does that work any different.

backup software/app?

whats a good backup software/apps for this. i am running pixel experience i get data wipe when i update the os. is there an app to backup pictures, contacts etc
Heimex said:
whats a good backup software/apps for this. i am running pixel experience i get data wipe when i update the os. is there an app to backup pictures, contacts etc
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I use migrate.
Migrate will work for apps and contacts etc. but not for personal files like photos, videos etc. I don't know of any app which does that. Only backup/copy to PC and restore.
Heimex said:
whats a good backup software/apps for this. i am running pixel experience i get data wipe when i update the os. is there an app to backup pictures, contacts etc
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I use Google backup to backup my app list installed from Play Store and also contacts etc. Then I use Swift Backup to backup apps with data and apps that isn't available in PS. For photos and videos etc, you can just use SD card or transfer through PC or sync with Google Photos. Or you can just skip wiping internal storage everytime flashing new rom.
MFAR198 said:
I use Google backup to backup my app list installed from Play Store and also contacts etc. Then I use Swift Backup to backup apps with data and apps that isn't available in PS. For photos and videos etc, you can just use SD card or transfer through PC or sync with Google Photos. Or you can just skip wiping internal storage everytime flashing new rom.
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how do i skip wiping internal storage whenever i flash the update of rom?
Heimex said:
how do i skip wiping internal storage whenever i flash the update of rom?
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Something is wrong either with your setup or the way you flash. It is not necessary to wipe internal storage everytime you flash a ROM. Looks to be an encryption/decryption issue. Unless you have an incompatible TWRP (which should usually handle encryption/decryption), you should not face this. Wiping/formatting internal storage may be required occasionally like when people try to flash the OOS Pie.
Did you ask in the ROM thread?
tnsmani said:
Something is wrong either with your setup or the way you flash. It is not necessary to wipe internal storage everytime you flash a ROM. Looks to be an encryption/decryption issue. Unless you have an incompatible TWRP (which should usually handle encryption/decryption), you should not face this. Wiping/formatting internal storage may be required occasionally like when people try to flash the OOS Pie.
Did you ask in the ROM thread?
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yes in the recent update of PE rom, it was an encryption/decryption issue which led to the loss of my data. Is there a way around this?
Heimex said:
yes in the recent update of PE rom, it was an encryption/decryption issue which led to the loss of my data. Is there a way around this?
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Don't use DFE ever and don't go back to a previous version of vendor-firmware. And possibly TWRP.
guhvanoh said:
Don't use DFE ever and don't go back to a previous version of vendor-firmware. And possibly TWRP.
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so after each dirty flash, i should let the encryption process continue upon restart of phone?
Heimex said:
so after each dirty flash, i should let the encryption process continue upon restart of phone?
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So here's the thing. Your fone comes naturally with encryption. You go and turn it off by flashing DFE. Then you make a booboo by forgetting to flash DFE after you update vendor/firmware. And now you're sol. Avoid the problem, don't use DFE. If you want to move to a different from, back up your data to external drive, do your fresh install and restore your data as needed. That's what I do and have never had any problems.
guhvanoh said:
So here's the thing. Your fone comes naturally with encryption. You go and turn it off by flashing DFE. Then you make a booboo by forgetting to flash DFE after you update vendor/firmware. And now you're sol. Avoid the problem, don't use DFE. If you want to move to a different from, back up your data to external drive, do your fresh install and restore your data as needed. That's what I do and have never had any problems.
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ok thanks for clearing it up. However, if i were to not flash DFE on the next update of pixel experience and subsequent updates, will i lose all my data on the next update upon completion of encryption process?
Heimex said:
ok thanks for clearing it up. However, if i were to not flash DFE on the next update of pixel experience and subsequent updates, will i lose all my data on the next update upon completion of encryption process?
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If you've already flashed DFE, you need to remember to flash it immediately after flashing vendor/firmware next time. If you only update PE without updating vendor/firmware you should be fine. Note that in many instances these days updating PE requires updating vendor/firmware, therefore you may need to flash DFE if and only if you already use it. In my case I'm encrypted, therefore all I need to do flash vendor/firmware and PE. I don't use DFE.
Hope this clears the air.

TWRP extractfork 255 error and Force Encryption

i have two huge problems like i mention in thread title. Whenever i restore my TWRP backup it gives error and says "Extractfork 255 error" and nothing in internet solved my issue.
My other and biggest problem is phone info says "encrypted" how to disable force encrypt?
Not even a single answer??
You can only disable force encrypt by flashing "patch no fde" file available on most rom threads.
But you will have to format data which will wipe your whole phone and flash the file before rebooting.
The reason your getting the other error is most likely twrp can't decrypt your data seeing as force encrypt is enabled.
And don't expect an answer, nobody here on xda is entitled to get questions answered. Alot of this information could have been accessed online if you just researched yourself instead of waiting over a week for a reply. It's not hard to type into a search engine
You haven't provided much information. Which TWRP version, what are you trying to restore, which steps have you tried and failed, what do you see in the TWRP logs etc. We do not have a crystal ball to guess the answers.
To decrypt the data, flash verity disabler and format data partition from TWRP. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
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garylawwd said:
You can only disable force encrypt by flashing "patch no fde" file available on most rom threads.
But you will have to format data which will wipe your whole phone and flash the file before rebooting.
The reason your getting the other error is most likely twrp can't decrypt your data seeing as force encrypt is enabled.
And don't expect an answer, nobody here on xda is entitled to get questions answered. Alot of this information could have been accessed online if you just researched yourself instead of waiting over a week for a reply. It's not hard to type into a search engine
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Of course i did search of course i didnt sit and wait for a response but as you can clearly see i flashed no fde patch even though it say succesfull but it always getting encrypted by itself again. Thanks for reply by the way
_mysiak_ said:
You haven't provided much information. Which TWRP version, what are you trying to restore, which steps have you tried and failed, what do you see in the TWRP logs etc. We do not have a crystal ball to guess the answers.
To decrypt the data, flash verity disabler and format data partition from TWRP. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
Edit: garylawwd was a bit faster in reply
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Correct me if im wrong but we have just 1 really working twrp and its 3.3.1.2 by Nikesh and im using it. I was really thinking its very simple question. i didnt get why it looks like so complicated ) i tried to restore my nandroid backup and all of sections are succesfull exept /data partition. when it comes to /data partition it gives "extracttark error 255 ". Im still confused why you didnt get my question
sasukeob said:
Of course i did search of course i didnt sit and wait for a response but as you can clearly see i flashed no fde patch even though it say succesfull but it always getting encrypted by itself again. Thanks for reply by the way
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What you mean that you flashed patch no fde because no where have you mentioned that you had flashed anything. You won't be able to restore the backup now because your data is encrypted and this twrp can't restore encrypted data.
You need to format data and then flash patch no fde like both of us already said. Then you can make a backup that you can restore later. You can't do anything about your encrypted data now
sasukeob said:
Correct me if im wrong but we have just 1 really working twrp and its 3.3.1.2 by Nikesh and im using it. I was really thinking its very simple question. i didnt get why it looks like so complicated ) i tried to restore my nandroid backup and all of sections are succesfull exept /data partition. when it comes to /data partition it gives "extracttark error 255 ". Im still confused why you didnt get my question
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You are right, the answer to your question is very simple and obvious, I don't get why do you find it so complicated that you must ask here in such a nice manner.
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garylawwd said:
What you mean that you flashed patch no fde because no where have you mentioned that you had flashed anything. You won't be able to restore the backup now because your data is encrypted and this twrp can't restore encrypted data.
You need to format data and then flash patch no fde like both of us already said. Then you can make a backup that you can restore later. You can't do anything about your encrypted data now
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From what I read, once you enter the correct password in TWRP and it can read data correctly, backup of /data is unencrypted. After the restore, data gets encrypted by system upon the first boot. This can be verified easily with Titanium backup app, which can read and use TWRP backups. At least that's the theory, but I'm too lazy to verify it
If you perform data backup with incorrect password (or TWRP doesn't support decryption), then your backup remains encrypted and is useless as you said.
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You are right, the answer to your question is very simple and obvious, I don't get why do you find it so complicated that you must ask here in such a nice manner.
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From what I read, once you enter the correct password in TWRP and it can read data correctly, backup of /data is unencrypted. After the restore, data gets encrypted by system upon the first boot. This can be verified easily with Titanium backup app, which can read and use TWRP backups. At least that's the theory, but I'm too lazy to verify it
If you perform data backup with incorrect password (or TWRP doesn't support decryption), then your backup remains encrypted and is useless as you said.
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Ya I apologise this twrp does in fact support data decryption it must have been the older version that didn't support it.
Without twrp logs I doubt there is anything we can do.
But like you suggested it may very well be a password error..but we will never know :silly:
i dont understand what im doing wrong. I installed havocos flashed no fde patch. i tried 3 times installed rom and tried. still encrypted
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You haven't provided much information. Which TWRP version, what are you trying to restore, which steps have you tried and failed, what do you see in the TWRP logs etc. We do not have a crystal ball to guess the answers.
To decrypt the data, flash verity disabler and format data partition from TWRP. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
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gary thanks for reply but i flashed it and it caused bootloop
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gary thanks for reply but i flashed it and it caused bootloop
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Tell us what actions exactly did you do, step by step, in chronological order.
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Tell us what actions exactly did you do, step by step, in chronological order.
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Ok. I have twrp 3.3.2.0 by nikesh installed. i format data and wipe dalvik cache and data. and i tried to restore my twrp backup. It restoring good but when it comes to restoring /data partition. it gives "Extracttrakfork Error 255" in red characters. I format data flashed nofde.zip but device encrypts itself again. So i tried to instal HavocOs and flash gapps and flash nofde patch. Havocos install succesfull but gapps flash gives error " Unmounting /vendor update process ended with error 25" :/
i flashed Orangefox recovery problem is still same :/
sasukeob said:
Ok. I have twrp 3.3.2.0 by nikesh installed. i format data and wipe dalvik cache and data. and i tried to restore my twrp backup. It restoring good but when it comes to restoring /data partition. it gives "Extracttrakfork Error 255" in red characters. I format data flashed nofde.zip but device encrypts itself again. So i tried to instal HavocOs and flash gapps and flash nofde patch. Havocos install succesfull but gapps flash gives error " Unmounting /vendor update process ended with error 25" :/
i flashed Orangefox recovery problem is still same :/
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Oh boy, you're doing too many things at once First of all, what do you want to achieve? Restore stock data? Install custom ROM? Just fooling around?
Data restore -
Are you sure that your data backup is decrypted and functional? Try to restore data from nandroid backup in Titanium backup or simply open the twrp backup files (they are tar archives) and check if you see individual files or just garbage.
You mentioned that you tried "everything", but you haven't mentioned this workaround https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/255-error-twrp-backup-restore-999-t3801632
Provide full twrp.log after failed restore.
Data encryption -
Have you followed steps described here? https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
Provide full twrp.log after zip installation.
Custom ROM -
Find support in the specific ROM topic (and provide twrp.log after failed installation).
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Oh boy, you're doing too many things at once First of all, what do you want to achieve? Restore stock data? Install custom ROM? Just fooling around?
Data restore -
Are you sure that your data backup is decrypted and functional? Try to restore data from nandroid backup in Titanium backup or simply open the twrp backup files (they are tar archives) and check if you see individual files or just garbage.
You mentioned that you tried "everything", but you haven't mentioned this workaround https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/255-error-twrp-backup-restore-999-t3801632
Provide full twrp.log after failed restore.
Data encryption -
Have you followed steps described here? https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
Provide full twrp.log after zip installation.
Custom ROM -
Find support in the specific ROM topic (and provide twrp.log after failed installation).
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I dont know how i did but after 1 month of try and fail im not quite sure but it seems i succeed now @_mysiak_ I really appreciate bc you spend time for replying my thread. Thank you so much man When you need help about anything just pm me i will try to help you bc you spend your time for me
my only problem is dm-verity now i guess. i dont know how to solve it but i will try

How to flash official stock rom after an older stock rooted rom

Hello I have a rooted phone with official miui12 rom.
TWRP is flashed but I can also run TWRP using adb.
How can I flash the New miui13 stock version ? Do I use the official Xiaomi flash tool? Or do I use TWRP to flash the stock rom?
iostrym said:
Hello I have a rooted phone with official miui12 rom.
TWRP is flashed but I can also run TWRP using adb.
How can I flash the New miui13 stock version ? Do I use the official Xiaomi flash tool? Or do I use TWRP to flash the stock rom?
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Through fastboot, you should use the fastboot ROM, and through TWRP, you should use the recovery ROM.
Thanks. A preferred option ?
Using TWRP do I need to erase stuff before or can I install directly the rom and this is all ?
I guess that recovery room is not the one provided officially by Xiaomi, right ? It the same but packaged a different way ?
Do you know if SD card will be erased during the stock rom flashing process ?
I see on official Xiaomi site that official rom is quite old. Miui11 version so I guess I will need to perform a lot of OTA update... Can I trust recovery rom provided on other websites to have the latest stock rom version ?
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Thanks. A preferred option ?
Using TWRP do I need to erase stuff before or can I install directly the rom and this is all ?
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Normally, you don't need to erase data, as they just update without erase per se.
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I guess that recovery room is not the one provided officially by Xiaomi, right ? It the same but packaged a different way ?
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As I said you, there are two official versions, the fastboot and the recovery ROM.
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Do you know if SD card will be erased during the stock rom flashing process ?
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No.
iostrym said:
I see on official Xiaomi site that official rom is quite old. Miui11 version so I guess I will need to perform a lot of OTA update... Can I trust recovery rom provided on other websites to have the latest stock rom version ?
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The OTA updates come, either in form of fastboot or recovery ROM, when Xiaomi provides an update, you will, also, find the minimal OTA package, yet included in the whole ROM.
In this site, you will find the most up-to-date releases https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/joyeuse/
thanks. I would like to be sure that my flashed TWRP will be erased during the process, will both flashing process (fastboot or TWRP) erase all my phone and put in a new "clean" state ? (except maybe for sdcard content)
iostrym said:
thanks. I would like to be sure that my flashed TWRP will be erased during the process, will both flashing process (fastboot or TWRP) erase all my phone and put in a new "clean" state ? (except maybe for sdcard content)
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Nope, both the processes, don't wipe per se, either through recovery or fastboot, in the Mi Flash tool, there is an option to format data, if you like it, if not, it remains un-ticked.
Sorry to insist but what are you calling 'data' ? Is it the SD card content (I don't think so) or is it the data partition on my internal memory ? So it could be :
Photo taken in internal memory
Data stored by apps like photo from WhatsApp or stuff like that ?
Temp file of each app like settings of app, etc.
Would it be a problem if I erase all my phone and loose all my apps but data off app are still there, it will take space for nothing right ?
What about flashed TWRP? will it be removed by the flashing process ? I think TWRP is flashed in recovery partition but not sure.
As you see I'm not familiar with android partition even if I did several times this kind of process with different phones.
iostrym said:
Sorry to insist but what are you calling 'data' ? Is it the SD card content (I don't think so) or is it the data partition on my internal memory ? So it could be :
Photo taken in internal memory
Data stored by apps like photo from WhatsApp or stuff like that ?
Temp file of each app like settings of app, etc.
Would it be a problem if I erase all my phone and loose all my apps but data off app are still there, it will take space for nothing right ?
What about flashed TWRP? will it be removed by the flashing process ? I think TWRP is flashed in recovery partition but not sure.
As you see I'm not familiar with android partition even if I did several times this kind of process with different phones.
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Not exactly what I call data, but, what data means in Android World.
Formatting data, it's deleted all the data from apps stored in /data partition, all the data regards settings, all the apps installed by the user, general configurations and all the data stored in internal storage, also the system apps uninstalled by the user can come again.
As per the SD Card, if you have one inside, it is not touched in the process.
If you flash the recovery ROM using TWRP, it won't be overwritten, if you flash the fastboot ROM, you'll lose the access to TWRP.
Thanks. Tell me if I'm wrong but if a choose to flash stock miui 13 version whereas I'm currently in miui12 I should maybe erase data also ? Maybe apps won't works again from 12 to 13 version ? I should be cleaner to reinstall them again don't you think ?
About fastboot stock rom isn't it strange that the official website provides only miui 11 rom whereas your site has miui13 version? How is it possible ? For recovery rom I understand because people can backup their phone and could create a recovery rom like this with miui13 after doing the ota. But for the fastboot rom, if Xiaomi don't provides it and provides only miui11 one, where does the miui13 come from ?
iostrym said:
Thanks. Tell me if I'm wrong but if a choose to flash stock miui 13 version whereas I'm currently in miui12 I should maybe erase data also ? Maybe apps won't works again from 12 to 13 version ? I should be cleaner to reinstall them again don't you think ?
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It would work even if you don't erase data, but, I personally prefer erasing it, to avoid some lags/bugs in the future.
iostrym said:
About fastboot stock rom isn't it strange that the official website provides only miui 11 rom whereas your site has miui13 version? How is it possible ? For recovery rom I understand because people can backup their phone and could create a recovery rom like this with miui13 after doing the ota. But for the fastboot rom, if Xiaomi don't provides it and provides only miui11 one, where does the miui13 come from ?
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Firstly, be sure that your device is Joyeuse.
All the updates, either recovery and fastboot ROM, are provided by Miui, all of them are official updates, not uploaded from usersĀ“ devices.
It's A12, not A13, I don't think your device see the light on A13.
Yes android 13. But miui 13 comes with android 12 and my current os is miui12 that comes with android11. (If I'm correct).
I have Redmi note 9 pro, M2003J6B2G (photo is 64M). I don't know where Curtana or joyeuse word can be really found in my phone but after some readings I had the feeling that M2003J6B2G = joyeuse version.
iostrym said:
Yes android 13. But miui 13 comes with android 12 and my current os is miui12 that comes with android11. (If I'm correct).
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Xiaomi also could update the Miui version, so Miui 13 came with Android 11 for some devices, don't stay there, just check the Android version that is specified in a tab, at the download list.
iostrym said:
I have Redmi note 9 pro, M2003J6B2G (photo is 64M). I don't know where Curtana or joyeuse word can be really found in my phone but after some readings I had the feeling that M2003J6B2G = joyeuse version.
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There are some apps like Device Info and other similar, from Play Store that can tell you, exactly, which your model is, Anyway, Redmi Note 9 Pro is Joyeuse but, be sure, before to proceed, consult some app like the mentioned.
SubwayChamp said:
Xiaomi also could update the Miui version, so Miui 13 came with Android 11 for some devices, don't stay there, just check the Android version that is specified in a tab, at the download list.
There are some apps like Device Info and other similar, from Play Store that can tell you, exactly, which your model is, Anyway, Redmi Note 9 Pro is Joyeuse but, be sure, before to proceed, consult some app like the mentioned.
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Cpu-z indicate joyeuse-eea. Should be good.
Ok so I will delete the data partition and I will use fastboot flash using Xiaomi tool. I'm not sure to understand your answer about the SD card. Will it be erased during the process ? I know that sdcard are now crypted so that they could be used only by my phone. If the os is modified, maybe I won't be able to read it even if it is not formated. Don't you think ?
iostrym said:
Cpu-z indicate joyeuse-eea. Should be good.
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Good, then it is the european version.
iostrym said:
Ok so I will delete the data partition and I will use fastboot flash using Xiaomi tool. I'm not sure to understand your answer about the SD card. Will it be erased during the process ? I know that sdcard are now crypted so that they could be used only by my phone. If the os is modified, maybe I won't be able to read it even if it is not formated. Don't you think ?
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Just to not confuse, sdcard is the internal memory, that is symlinked as /data/media/0, all the internal memory is gone when we format data, some folders are recreated at the first boot, after performing it.
SD Card refers to Secure Digital card, that is an external media storage, it is absolutely excluded to any operation from Android, when flashing, updating the system or formatting data, of course, you should consider that some apps like camera can store its pictures there, previous authorization from user, but they will stay there yet, and some folder can be created too, at the first boot, but nothing that harms.
Just to know, sdcard as internal memory is not encrypted at all, it's accessible for any user, always, that can bypass the locking feature of the choice of the user, i.e. PIN, pattern, etc.
Thanks I didn't know that sdcard and SD card weren't the same. My concern is about external memory card (SD card). If not formated. I'm afraid that it couldn't be used after reboot. Except if the decryption key is linked to my phone (hardware) and not the software part (os) of my phone
iostrym said:
Thanks I didn't know that sdcard and SD card weren't the same. My concern is about external memory card (SD card). If not formated. I'm afraid that it couldn't be used after reboot. Except if the decryption key is linked to my phone (hardware) and not the software part (os) of my phone
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The encryption is permanent since A6, it remains, at least, you can do something about it, using a custom recovery, a custom module, script, or something, nothing that the end user can worry about, for the normal use of the device.
Trying to guess, you did encrypt your SD card, then the encryption key is linked, only to your SD card, the SD card, specially, in newer Android versions, is treated as a privacy media user concern, so every time more, apps can't access to, as easy as the older times, it is RO by default.
Sorry I have difficulties to read and understand your last message as my English is bad.
Especially the second part... I don't encrypt anything myself. I just now that recent version of Android encrypt the sdcard and it couldn't be used in a computer for instance or another phone. So I think that maybe after new rom flashed. SD card won't be read or write from the phone and I will have to format it myself so that I can read it from my phone. Correct ?
iostrym said:
Sorry I have difficulties to read and understand your last message as my English is bad.
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Probably my English is worse than yours.
iostrym said:
Especially the second part... I don't encrypt anything myself. I just now that recent version of Android encrypt the sdcard and it couldn't be used in a computer for instance or another phone. So I think that maybe after new rom flashed. SD card won't be read or write from the phone and I will have to format it myself so that I can read it from my phone. Correct ?
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You are again mixing the terms, in the first part, you're saying "...recent version of Android encrypt the sdcard" and linking to the second part, you're saying "...after new rom flashed. SD card won't be read or write"
As I said to you previously /sdcard AKA internal storage is not encrypted at all, at any time, the fact that you need to authorize the MTP connection within your device and a PC, doesn't change that, if you or anyone else, have access to the Android interface, then you or anyone else, can see all the data/files/pictures/audio/video stored, in the internal storage, by using a file manager app, or a specific app for every file instance/format, i.e. a music player for videos/sounds/musics, a gallery app for pictures/images, and so on.
As per the SD card, the same, if the user (you, in this case), didn't encrypt it, then, Android, also, doesn't encrypt it, so you and anyone else, can access to the data stored in it, either during the OS functioning normally, and/or after the flashing/formatting process.

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