Samsung Note 8: how to tone down killing apps - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, Note 8 OneUI
out of apps I use 2 are mildly more memory intensive (Azur Lane and GotoBrowser) using perhaps hundreds of MB. I installed Simple system monitor with the floating RAM chart. Switching between the apps, free available RAM wouldn't drop below 1GB and yet during usage these apps both get frequently killed. Often just after switching from the app to chrome, viewing one page and then back already has it killed.
The first app reportedly runs well on 2GB while I have 6, so it should be plenty.
It seems temporarily better after restarting the device where the memory is really abundant.
I think it got much worse after the update to One UI.
Is there any way to tweak this?
Adaptive battery: off
Put unused apps to sleep: after 3 days (the above is a matter of minutes)
Sleeping apps - if I read this correctly this option is the opposite of what I want - want them to be able to remain in the background
Memory - apps that aren't checked: adding didn't help
Dev options - background process limit: standard
Don't know of any other possibly related options.
Thank you

NoxArt said:
Hi, Note 8 OneUI
out of apps I use 2 are mildly more memory intensive (Azur Lane and GotoBrowser) using perhaps hundreds of MB. I installed Simple system monitor with the floating RAM chart. Switching between the apps, free available RAM wouldn't drop below 1GB and yet during usage these apps both get frequently killed. Often just after switching from the app to chrome, viewing one page and then back already has it killed.
The first app reportedly runs well on 2GB while I have 6, so it should be plenty.
It seems temporarily better after restarting the device where the memory is really abundant.
I think it got much worse after the update to One UI.
Is there any way to tweak this?
Adaptive battery: off
Put unused apps to sleep: after 3 days (the above is a matter of minutes)
Sleeping apps - if I read this correctly this option is the opposite of what I want - want them to be able to remain in the background
Memory - apps that aren't checked: adding didn't help
Dev options - background process limit: standard
Don't know of any other possibly related options.
Thank you
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Set your background process limit in Dev options to the highest number available or unlimited. I don't know if Samsung still has this option, but also look in your battery settings and disable "optimization" for the apps you're having trouble with. Just for clarification, "Optimization" is not the same thing as adaptive battery which I saw you that you already disabled. If it's not in battery settings, check settings > apps > and check the details for those apps and look for power, or battery in the list.

Thank you!
Battery optimization was disabled for them
I disabled putting unused apps to sleep altogether just in case
Changed background process limit to 4, which doesn't seem that much, but it's the highest number available
Will see how it'll behave now
Also - found exact numbers for memory usage:
AL: 120-430MB
GB: 5-270MB
That doesn't seem that much
And forgot to mention - running in High performance mode, not sure if it's relevant or not

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Speed and battery boosting Tips - post em here

Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
Is there a widget to switch from 3G to 2G?
no, that is not a setting that can be done on a widget. all the ones that are around and claim to do it just jump you straight into mobile settings so you can toggle it yourself in two clicks instead of four....
But there is the Mobile Network one - HTC built in - when that is turned off, you can still get calls, and send txts. I use this toggle to do that - also can you not set a shortcut to do 3g to 2g only using bettercut? I'm sure you can, because you have that option in settings and bettercut can make a shortcut to any settings toggle.
Dayzee
Edit - Bettercut doesn't work with Hero Well, certainly not for creating and adding a shortcut to a system setting - will let the devs know...
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
Toggle Settings is a good app for controlling Daisys suggestions above, taskiller or Advanced Task Manager are essential for closing unwanted apps.
Couple of notes about apps that close stuff down like Taskiller and Task Manager - they can slow your fone down immediately after an end all, as the apps that need to run like TouchFlo have to restart - which they do, all by themselves - but it makes the fone prone to laggyness and force closing if you try to open stuff straight after.
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
Also there were reports that one of the Taskiller apps messed with the long press home functions. Not sure on this tho...
Dayzee said:
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
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With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
Ce said:
With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
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Try TaskPanel, it's free and doesn't seem to have any restrictions in its exclude list. You can also add a memory threshold when TaskPanel should automatically kill applications (configured through a separate list). And finally, it registers itself as an ongoing task and starts up automatically.
TaskPanel ist great... Thanks for that Tip. Have it running in the Background and now it Kills processes that are not in my Exclude List everytime the RAM goes below 50Meg.
My Hero is now (almost) Lag-Free.
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Background data? As in what? Mobile network?
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Surely that disables all the sync services etc which is really what the phone is all about!
Also the Market won't work unless background data is enabled... It will save battery but a said, many services won't work unless you update manually.
I switched this off when in France so I didn't eat up my roaming data bundle.
The Jones said:
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
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Ive also noticed this also with the people widget after i removed it as well as the Clock # 8 it severely reduced the lagginess of my Hero
Hi Dayzee & co.,
If you're looking for a good way to save battery power without having to turn wifi on and off manually, check out "Y5 battery saver"
Y5 - Battery Saver is an AndroidTM application which saves your battery by turning the Wifi off in locations where you have never been connected before. The application turns Wifi back on when you are back to known location. It will remember the locations automatically. All you have to do is turn the Wifi on and connect to the known Wifi network for the first time
Really cool, and works like a charm. Ok, you need to have your GPS turned on, but at least that one is useful everywhere you are (except inside buildings, fair enough)... whereas wifi isn't. Furthermore, wifi uses up more battery than GPS.
Concerning Advanced Task Killer (awesome!), you might want to check out this thread if you're sick of having to restart your phone each time you have to sync. In a few words: always put HTC sync in the Ignore list of the program. Unchecking it won't do.
Cheers!
Stop using Peep (set it all to manual update), remove the widget and start using Twidroid.
As well as a huge reduction in battery draw, you'll find your Hero is far more responsive than is ever was before.
The last few days my Hero has not been sluggish and the battery life has increased dramatically. Set to 30 mins update just like Peep was.
Here's my tip, that works really well, for me. I've tried a myriad of task managers, but finally settled for TaskPanel. It doesn't really matter what you use, I suppose, but I found it to be one of the clearest. Furthermore, advanced task killer's and taskillers "kill all" commands seemed to randomly kill the TouchFlo process as well, even though it was "ignored"...
I've come to the conclusion that cpu load rarely is a problem on this phone (in terms of finding a reason to possible lag), unless you are watching videos (which you probably won't, since it appears to be impossible to encode videos so they don't at least slow down a bit every five seconds) or listening to music.
Instead it's the amount of memory you have free for apps to use. I have no idea why, since I also live by the credo "memory free is memory wasted", so ideally my phone would have 5 megs of ram free and everything would work great. Now for some reason, my Hero desktop starts to lag substantially (as well as other gui-elements, such as long scrolling lists) whenever my memory goes below 40 megs.
I always hated the "favourite people" widget by Htc, so I closed it day one. Maybe that's why my htc experience has been pretty positive. I also closed the desktop widgets for SMS-messages and Mail, since they can't show MMS:es or HTML-mail and since they are both ridiculously slow at flicking from one message to the next. I also threw away the novelty clocks by Htc, since they animate too often and that slows down the interface while they are moving. Instead I opted for the iPhone-like clock "digital clock widget". Just don't force kill it, since it will stop updating and you will be stuck with a beautiful clock that shows the right time once every day.
So basically, my formula for a fluid hero experience is:
* Check your free memory with TaskPanel every now and then. If it goes below 50, prepare for slowdown. If it goes below 40, go on a killingspree.
* Register TaskPanel as an "ongoing service", so it shows up in your notification drawer. Now, if you can see your notification drawer (which you can't in the browser), then instead of clicking home to close stuff, open TaskPanel (or whatever) and kill the app you are about to stop using.
* With multitasking comes responsibility. Odds are, if you ever owned an iPhone, this is something you were *****in and moanin about. "Gimme multitasking, gimme!". Well now you've got it and so, learn to use it. Everything that is slow, badly programmed or a resource hog has gotta go, unless you really really need it. Beautiful clock animating slowly? Too bad! Ditch it.
Somebody said Android wold be very good at managing resources by itself and that sounds reasonable. However, I read numerous comments about people finding this to not be the case. Maybe in version 2.0. But for now I'm stuck killing of processes myself. It works for me and makes my UI snappy. And I can keep 3-5 apps running at the same time (that are my own choices, not mandatory apps that come with the UI) without problem. I regularly have babbler, androidirc, taskpanel, market, ebuddy, redditisfun running at the same time without problem. Just kill off apps you are not going to use for a long time.
Ok, sorry to be rambling, but this is my take on the situation. It might get resolved with the Hero update or with the 2.0 version of Android. Don't know, but until then, we need some tools and wild speculation won't solve anything. If you made it through the whole message, I would appreciate your comments - especially any positive experiences you have from "letting Android do its own cleaning". It sounds a little fishy that it would be bad a first, but after about a week, things will get really snappy? What if I boot my phone? Will I have to wait a week again for things to become fast?
-JJ
Speed and battery boosting Tips
Dayzee said:
Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
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turning off allmost every things,then what reson to have a smart phone and spend 600$ for the device better, turn off your hero and keep in the pocket and turn it back on to use...keep in pocket with power off till next use.this is not the sulution .turning off everythings ........rether go with motorola razer v3.
I still don't see the point of using task managers and killing tasks. I just let the OS manage everything for me.
My Hero run very well indeed since I worked out that Peep was a real battery and resource hog.
I've just been for a 4 mile walk and used My Tracks to track the walk, Twidroid, Browser hot linked from tweets in Twidroid, answered a phone call and responded to a number of texts.
Looked at My Tracks a number of times to see what it was doing and to look at the satellite map. I like to point out things on the phone screen to the kids that they can see in real life - geeky but they think its cool.
Kept checking on how fast we were walking etc...
So screen was active quite a bit.
All over the space of 1hr 15mins with the GPS running all the time.
Hero never lagged once, battery used was around 10% (at a guess, maybe 12%).
Overall very impressed.

Tips to Squeeze up to 200+ hours of Battery and 65% free RAM on Stock!

I made a lot of experiments trying to squeeze most of my LG G2 battery & RAM, and finally I reached those results by the below strategy (please note that this will be just strategy/tips, not detailed steps), and on ROOTED STOCK ROM It currently gives me:
Average Screen Off Discharging Speed 0.3-0.5%\hour (so battery needs 200 hours to discharge, or more than a week!)
Average Screen On Discharging Speed Between 10%-20%\hour (no Gaming) (so working hours about 8-7 hours)
Free RAM after full startup 65%.
(I gathered those statistics by setting Tasker to calculate them for me).
Battery Tips:
So to see almost a perfectly horizontal line of your battery discharge during your sleeping, you will need:
Rooted Stock ROM (I tried this on KitKat latest version).
Greenify.
Tasker
Your brain)) and some work.
OK to get most of the battery, do the following:
Remove all LG & Google Bloat ware; search XDA how to do that.
Disable all animations in you Settings-> Accessibility, this will save our battery and make apps faster.
Now all of the work should be done in Tasker, I assume that you already know how to work in this thing, if not search XDA there is a lot of tutorials...
Once your screen is off, do the following in Tasker:
Turn off the following : WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, Auto Sync.
Greenify all bad behaving apps, after that use tasker to force close many of the bad behaved one (you should experiment with this).
Down Clock your CPU, for some reason my device reboots unless I set Governor to conservative or onDeman, so here we put it on conservative, with CPU clock between 300 and 652 MHz, there is no need to make it lower, because it gives no better battery life, and it makes wake up time longer.
Those steps are enough to make sure that you will lose about 0.5% per hour only! (my CPU needs about 5-10 minutes to enter deepsleep, this means that your battery drain during this time will more than 0.5%)
On screen ON, you need to immediately set back your CPU to onDemand mode, otherwise it will lag, actually I made 3 profiles for CPU, low (during screen of), medium (when screen on), and high (during gaming), so here I set the OnDemand with frequency 300-1190 MHz, and you will not notice any lag with those settings, also you need to set the maximum priority for the Tasker profile that will do this, well actually I made my own Lock Screen by Tasker screen so that tasker will stay foreground app and has best CPU priority, so swapping CPU profiles will be quite fast and you will see no Lag.
Also I set a periodic sync, when screen off each hour my phone wake ups and turning on wifi (or 3G if I’m out) and turning on AutoSync for couple minutes, and then turn all those things again to enter DeepSleep (step 1).
you need to make a good Screen brightness management in Tasker, there is tutorials on line for that.
Finally, during working, I set many specialized profiles for different apps I use a lot, for example, you don't need AutoSync when you are talking by phone, or reading a book, also when reading books, you don't need high CPU frequency, so I lowering it down, all this tweaks needs some work, but anyway you it will give you considerable battery gain, and you will see that the application that you really using a lot are not more than 10 apps.
I would like to note that I tried many ways to optimize this (except trying different ROMs) like playing with application's wake locks, but nothing worked as good as this strategy for me, if you have some more suggestions it will be great.
RAM Tips:
Many of us trying to make our phones customized and more beautiful, but after a lot of tries I found that all those things only making things worse, even for a monster like LG G2: I tried almost 99% of Launchers available on store, and all of them are very bad in scene of resource usage, for example the most beloved Go Launcher, having 200+ apps, and 3 pages of widgets, uses about 150 Mb. of RAM, this is too much, considering that android itself using about 200Mb. in worst scenarios, even the launchers that claims to be very efficient like Lightning & ssLauncher, that is not true, because once you install them, they indeed use too little at the beginning, but once you customize them and will add widgets, objects to them, they will jump up to 100Mb., well this still is better anyway than Go Launcher.
So to be short, the best one in terms of memory usage, is definitely, and without any competition, is Smart Launcher, it seems that it has a unique possibility to draw/load the widgets on demand (you can add them on special pages) and once you go back to main screen, it will free up used memory in minutes, that's really great, because this launcher on average uses only 50Mb. whatever the widgets you use!!
Also I would like to note that most Lock screens are very memory hungry, I tried lot of them, and none of them used less than 40Mb.!! so it almost like a second launcher! even the best of them like widget Locker or C-Locker! that why I made my own by Tasker itself, but note that after designing a scene in Tasker, it will use a lot of memory (70-80Mb.), and for some reason doesn’t free it unless you restart Tasker, and fortunately after that it will use not more than 20-30Mb. even when the scene is visible! so considering other things Tasker is doing, it's pretty low! so I highly recommend this.
Also any programs like recent app's viewers, side bars, screen buttons etc.. are also very memory hungry, I tried a lot and none of them really efficient, don't dream to get one with less of 50Mb. usage! so it's better, in my tests, "on screen buttons" are the best one with about 10-15 Mb. usage in case you don't like the navigation bar as me))
Well those tips allowed me to have very long battery usage, and about 50-60% free RAM, and without animations, makes my phone LG G2 fast like a Hell even with lots of apps installed, hope this was helpful.
Cheers!
Wow...
Nice Tips...could you mind to share your tasker lockscreen?? =)
If you switch off WiFi/data, you loose connectivity..isn't that the point of a phone anyways? Say somebody sent you a message on WhatsApp, you might get it only after 1 hr under your profile, the whole point of the message is lost ..guess that is too heavy a cost to pay for battery..but people are different, so somebody else might have different priorities
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iall5tar said:
could you mind to share your tasker lockscreen
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I can but it will be useless for you because I have a lot of tasks that works like functions and depends each on other... I can explain the main Idea how to make it if you would like...
vivebatu said:
you might get it only after 1 hr under your profile
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Well you can decrease the time, but of course if you need stay online, that will not work for you....
TMSxXDA said:
I can but it will be useless for you because I have a lot of tasks that works like functions and depends each on other... I can explain the main Idea how to make it if you would like...
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Sure, just import it like a project and i will check it.
or explain it =)

Increase your battery life and.......

I made a lot of experiments trying to squeeze most of my GT-I8552 battery & RAM, and finally I reached those results by the below strategy (please note that this will be just strategy/tips, not detailed steps), and on ROOTED STOCK ROM It currently gives me:
1) Average Screen Off Discharging Speed 0.3-0.5%\hour (so battery needs 200 hours to discharge, or more than a week!)
2) Average Screen On Discharging Speed Between 10%-20%\hour (no Gaming) (so working hours about 8-7 hours)
3) Free RAM after full startup 65%.
(I gathered those statistics by setting Tasker to calculate them for me).
Battery Tips:
So to see almost a perfectly horizontal line of your battery discharge during your sleeping, you will need:
1) Rooted Stock ROM (I tried this on KitKat latest version).
2) Greenify.
3) Tasker
4) Your brain and some work.
OK to get most of the battery, do the following:
Remove all LG & Google Bloat ware; search XDA how to do that.
Disable all animations in you Settings-> Accessibility, this will save our battery and make apps faster.
Now all of the work should be done in Tasker, I assume that you already know how to work in this thing, if not search XDA there is a lot of tutorials...
Once your screen is off, do the following in Tasker:
Turn off the following : WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, Auto Sync.
Greenify all bad behaving apps, after that use tasker to force close many of the bad behaved one (you should experiment with this).
Down Clock your CPU, for some reason my device reboots unless I set Governor to conservative or onDeman, so here we put it on conservative, with CPU clock between 300 and 652 MHz, there is no need to make it lower, because it gives no better battery life, and it makes wake up time longer.
Those steps are enough to make sure that you will lose about 0.5% per hour only! (my CPU needs about 5-10 minutes to enter deepsleep, this means that your battery drain during this time will more than 0.5%)
On screen ON, you need to immediately set back your CPU to onDemand mode, otherwise it will lag, actually I made 3 profiles for CPU, low (during screen of), medium (when screen on), and high (during gaming), so here I set the OnDemand with frequency 300-1190 MHz, and you will not notice any lag with those settings, also you need to set the maximum priority for the Tasker profile that will do this, well actually I made my own Lock Screen by Tasker screen so that tasker will stay foreground app and has best CPU priority, so swapping CPU profiles will be quite fast and you will see no Lag.
Also I set a periodic sync, when screen off each hour my phone wake ups and turning on wifi (or 3G if I’m out) and turning on AutoSync for couple minutes, and then turn all those things again to enter DeepSleep (step 1).
you need to make a good Screen brightness management in Tasker, there is tutorials on line for that.
Finally, during working, I set many specialized profiles for different apps I use a lot, for example, you don't need AutoSync when you are talking by phone, or reading a book, also when reading books, you don't need high CPU frequency, so I lowering it down, all this tweaks needs some work, but anyway you it will give you considerable battery gain, and you will see that the application that you really using a lot are not more than 10 apps.
I would like to note that I tried many ways to optimize this (except trying different ROMs) like playing with application's wake locks, but nothing worked as good as this strategy for me, if you have some more suggestions it will be great.
RAM Tips:
Many of us trying to make our phones customized and more beautiful, but after a lot of tries I found that all those things only making things worse, even for a monster like LG G2: I tried almost 99% of Launchers available on store, and all of them are very bad in scene of resource usage, for example the most beloved Go Launcher, having 200+ apps, and 3 pages of widgets, uses about 150 Mb. of RAM, this is too much, considering that android itself using about 200Mb. in worst scenarios, even the launchers that claims to be very efficient like Lightning & ssLauncher, that is not true, because once you install them, they indeed use too little at the beginning, but once you customize them and will add widgets, objects to them, they will jump up to 100Mb., well this still is better anyway than Go Launcher.
So to be short, the best one in terms of memory usage, is definitely, and without any competition, is Smart Launcher, it seems that it has a unique possibility to draw/load the widgets on demand (you can add them on special pages) and once you go back to main screen, it will free up used memory in minutes, that's really great, because this launcher on average uses only 50Mb. whatever the widgets you use!!
Also I would like to note that most Lock screens are very memory hungry, I tried lot of them, and none of them used less than 40Mb.!! so it almost like a second launcher! even the best of them like widget Locker or C-Locker! that why I made my own by Tasker itself, but note that after designing a scene in Tasker, it will use a lot of memory (70-80Mb.), and for some reason doesn’t free it unless you restart Tasker, and fortunately after that it will use not more than 20-30Mb. even when the scene is visible! so considering other things Tasker is doing, it's pretty low! so I highly recommend this.
Also any programs like recent app's viewers, side bars, screen buttons etc.. are also very memory hungry, I tried a lot and none of them really efficient, don't dream to get one with less of 50Mb. usage! so it's better, in my tests, "on screen buttons" are the best one with about 10-15 Mb. usage in case you don't like the navigation bar as me))
Dear Axit,
Where did you get the stock kitkat rom for GT-I8552.
Sent from my GT-I8552 using Tapatalk
devesh9 said:
Dear Axit,
Where did you get the stock kitkat rom for GT-I8552.
Sent from my GT-I8552 using Tapatalk
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Not KitKat..wrote that by mistake..:silly:
ohk
it looks good

[DISCUSSION] Xiaomi Mi 9 battery life saving tips

Xiaomi Mi 9
Battery life saving tips
- Discussion - ​
Presenting a few tips based off personal experience that can help squeeze out those extra few minutes/hours of battery life from our device.​
Please note:
This is not a science and what works for some may not work for others. There are many factors involved in having good battery life and one person’s 1 SOT (screen on time) may mean completely different usage to another’s. For example, 1 hour of internet browsing will of course be less battery-intensive than 1 hour of processor-hungry gaming. So bear this in mind…
I am running the weekly Xiaomi.EU rom (9.4.11 at the time of posting) and so some of these settings/features may not be available on other versions of MIUI.
Some of the below will require. Some users prefer not (or can’t for whichever reason) to root and so you’ll just have to skip those if so.
Lastly, this thread is intended on being a work in progress and I welcome comments/suggestions/additions on the content. These are the settings that I adhere to which I believe, as well as most users, which are useful to aid battery life. Some tips may help out significantly, some may just offer a slight increase. Some may not even help at all and may just be placebo!
If something doesn’t work for you or you greatly disagree, let’s discuss it…​
Network settings + roaming
There are various settings which are known to help out with the notorious Cell Standby drain etc. such as:
Preferred network type (found either by Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks – Sim Card Settings - Preferred network type OR by dialling *#*#4636#*#* via your phone app). Users in the EU find that setting the network type to GSM/WCDMA/LTE or WCDMA/LTE (on both sims) can help stop the device look for network frequencies that it’ll never find, such as the TD-SCDMA etc. You can Google what frequencies your network provider uses which can help you decide.
VoLTE (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – there may be some debate over this one, but it can be said by having VoLTE enabled, whilst calls will be clearer, it will use 4G which is that bit more power hungry. Therefore some testing may be preferred if you’re a frequent caller. I personally have this on without and haven’t tested it fully, but I’m also not a huge caller.
Make calls using WLAN (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – by using WiFi for calls this should be more battery efficient than using mobile network data.
Data roaming (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – I tend to keep Overseas data roaming off when I’m in my home country with the thought that it prevents the device from looking for networks it won’t find. As for National roaming, I have this kept off too normally as I don’t travel around much generally, so again to prevent it searching for alternative networks when it already has a strong signal.
System settings
Here we have several system settings/features that may be used on a day-to-day basis but may not be needed to be enabled at all times. Generally speaking, having something turned on all the time yields benefits for convenience but at the cost of battery life, as seen below.
Wifi / Bluetooth – both of these can be regarded as similar, in the sense that by having it enabled all the time it can connect automatically without your input. For example, if I leave my WiFi on when I leave my home it’ll automatically reconnect when I come back. Great! However, throughout the entire day if it doesn’t find a known network it will constantly be looking for one, draining battery. Not so great. Therefore if the convenience of not having to turn your WiFi on/off is your preference, then leave it enabled. Though if you know you’re not going to be connected to a network, then some manual control may be preferred. The same rules apply for Bluetooth devices.
WiFi & Bluetooth Scanning (Settings – Additional Settings – Privacy – Location – Scanning) – this can be a big drain I have found and is usually activated when you have High Accuracy location mode activated. Again, it comes with its benefits of providing higher accuracy, but with some battery cost. By disabling both WLAN and Bluetooth scanning, extra battery life can be saved. There are some apps I’ve found that force you to enabled High Accuracy mode, so just remember to switch off these scanning settings once again if so.
GPS & location accuracy (Settings – Additional Settings – Privacy – Location – Location mode) – I personally don’t mind just using Device only and keeping this on all the time. As whilst like with Bluetooth as mentioned above, if I know I’m not connect to my Bluetooth speaker for example, I at least like to open Google Maps and it find me straight away rather than toggling GPS on etc. Personal preference of course, as with all of these…
NFC (Settings – More) – as with WiFi and Bluetooth settings, if you’re not using it and don’t mind the manual toggling on/off as needed, then disable and do just that.
Hotspot (Settings – Portable Hotspot) – as above really, as this could be a big drainer if left on. Luckily there is a setting (Turn off hotspot automatically) which can help with this.
Display
A massively subjective aspect of using your device and only you know what you’d rather have and what you;d rather be looking at. Just as we know, a higher brightness level will result in high battery drain and the screen can be the biggest drainer of the all, so choose wisely if you’re trying to conserve some juice.
Screen brightness (Settings – Display – Brightness level) – I personally have it set to manually controlled, as I find the auto-brightness not to be very smooth, at around 20-30% indoors and perhaps up to 100% outdoors. I believe that manually controlling brightness preserves battery as it of course doesn’t use the ambient sensor and brightness remains the same, rather than jumping up and down reacting to light levels.
Ambient display (Settings – Display – Ambient display) – functionality of having the ‘always on display’, but at the cost of some battery life. There is the scheduling that you can use to help with this, but personal preference whether you want this on or not. I personally don’t, though at times I’m tempted to given the notification light, for me, isn’t that practical.
Contrast and colours (Settings – Display –Contrast & colours) – it can be said that Standard will be the most battery friendly, Increased Contrast drawing that bit more power due to the increase in contrast and Automatic Contrast using the most given it will use the sensor to optimise contrast based off available light. I personally have it on Increased contrast and I’m happy enough.
Double tap/raise to wake (Settings – Display – System) – with both of these sensors will be used for the convenience of tapping your screen and raising your phone in order to wake the device. This may be handy, but be mindful that such convenience will come at the cost of the sensors running using up some battery.
Themes
Another subjective aspect of your device is you can make it look. The suggestion here is for black themes to be applied where possible as on our screens black images use less power, as noted by Google. Though indeed black theming isn't for everyone so this suggestion, as with all of them, is purely up to you.
Night mode (Settings - Additional settings - Developer options - Night Mode) - enable night mode (Always on) to turn on MIUI system-wide black/dark theme, such as the dialer etc. *If you don't know how to activate Developer options, see here
Substratum and Swift Black - I highly recommend using this theme with the help of Substratum, though indeed only available to rooted users. Be sure to follow all the required steps to get Substratum working, such as installing the Magisk module etc.
Battery & Performance
Here are the various system battery settings which aim to preserve battery. Some perhaps more useful than others!
Adaptive Battery (Settings – Battery & Performance – Use Adaptive Battery) – this claims to limit battery for apps that you don’t use often, which I have enabled, though as will be seen below some further manual control can be done.
Battery saver / background app restrictions (Settings – Battery & Performance – App Battery Saver – Choose apps) – here you can select per-app a choice of 4 background restriction settings. It’s time consuming, but it’s worth going through each app (note: use the 3 dots in the top right corner to Show system apps) and choose the restriction settings, if any, to be applied. Generally speaking, if you want notifications to come through from it (like WhatsApp) or you don’t want it being shut down in the background (like Spotify) then choose No restrictions. If you’re not so bothered about it and want the system to lay down the law on battery saving, choose Restrict background activity. There are settings in-between, like Battery Saver and Restrict background apps, but I’ll leave you to play around with those ones.
Battery Optimization (Settings – Battery & Performance) - this has several options to save battery ranging from adjusting screen brightness, turning on Battery Saver, turning off GPS etc. This can be used however I prefer to manually configure the settings, so this will be up to you…
Scenes (Settings – Battery & Performance) – here is a ‘smart scene’ called sleep mode which apparently will detect when you’re sleeping and close down apps, restrict NFC etc. I personally have this disabled as again I manually adjust such settings
Auto-start (Settings – Manage apps - *select app* - Autostart) – another useful option is to go through each app you have and disable the autostart, which could provide additional battery savings preventing apps from starting up in the background
Debloating / removing system apps
Lots of system resources can be freed up which can result in added performance and battery life. See the extremely helpful thread by @SirTAVARES who created the Debloat Applications (No-Root) thread.
I personally have used the above guide to remove a lot of pre-included apps, even on the somewhat pre-debloated Xiaomi.eu rom. Without root you can use ADB to remove apps and they won't reappear when you update your rom. They will appear back if you perform a factory reset, as they are not fully uninstalled.
Furthermore, with root you can remove the app from not only the user area but system area too. Check out the thread for more info on this.
Lastly, apps like System App Remover Pro can fully uninstall system apps, with the option to use the Recycle Bin option should you wish to restore
Battery draining apps and alternatives
It can be said that some apps are notorious for being big battery drainers, such as the official Facebook app. I’m not a huge user of some of the other apps, like Snapchat, Twitter etc. and to be honest I generally favour webpage versions of some things for example I don’t have the Amazon shopping app, I just use the web page version, saved as a bookmark on my home screen. The general tip here is if you are going to use an app, be sure to go through its settings and adjust notification settings/frequency. For example, I do have the Sky News app however set it to not notify me of news, the same for Yahoo weather. So tweak accordingly. If you have some good alternative app suggestions then I’ll be happy to include some here, but for now I’ll just start with…
Facebook – I use Folio for Facebook & Messenger which is a nice lightweight 'Facebook wrapper' in that it uses the Facebook webpage as the basis for the app. It also has a functional messenger included so no need for a separate app.
Battery monitoring apps - apps like GSam Battery Monitor and BetterBatteryStats can be useful in detecting the high draining apps, so could be worth using one of those in an effort to identify them.
Magisk modules
There are many Magisk modules out there which aim to solve battery. I only use one, which I’ll list below, however please feel free to make suggestions for inclusion in this section. I know that there are some like Greenify, Amplify (when using Xposed) etc. that could squeeze even more juice out of the device!
Universal GMS Doze - helps put Google Play Services to sleep to save some battery. I use this with no issues/impact on Gmail, Play Store etc.
Other system settings
Sync (Settings – Sync) – as with per app settings for notifications/sync frequency etc. settings, it’s worth checking here to see what apps are auto-syncing data. You can turn them all off (I believe) via the Auto-sync data toggle, or check them out individually via this menu setting. *Note: I have removed Mi Cloud etc. and so I don’t have any of that running in the background, but that’s up to you.
Vibration (Settings – Sound & Vibration) – now this is likely a very small potential for some battery savings but still worth noting. You can adjust the Vibrate on tap option ranging from Off/Light/Medium/Strong, which I’m sure someone who has it set to Strong will be using that tiny bit more power than someone who has it set to Off. Your call….
Permissions (Settings - Permissions - Permissions) - it's worth going through here to monitor per-app what permissions are being used. Some apps may not like being prevented using certain things and it may break some functionality, but it's an extra method in reducing potential usage, such as hardware usage, for an extra saving. For example, an app may try and use GPS each and every time you open it or even try running it in the background. If you're willing to, preventing it from doing so may help save some battery.
Authorization & revocation (Settings - Additional settings - Authorization & revocation) - here you can revoke some access from apps. I have stuff like Security, Downloads, Battery and performance and Settings listed here, all of which I've revoked with no noticeable negative consequences.
Fingerprint icon (Settings - Lock screen & password - Manage fingerprints) - another very small tweak for a potential very small saving. The setting is Show fingerprint icon when the screen is off (which is present on Xiaomi.eu 9.4.11) and by disabling will prevent the icon showing. As the icon is displayed by the screen, by turning it off it'll naturally save the power it takes to light the screen up, which as you may have noticed, it lights up with the tiniest movement of the device! I keep it on as I like it and battery doesn't seem to be greatly impacted - but this thread is about squeezing as much juice as possible, right?!
Recents and 'Clear all' - not a system setting but a little thing to do, is to open up the Recents menu and use the 'X' button to close all running apps, or swipe individual to close certain ones from running in the background. Now, it is the case the apps stored in the RAM aren't necessarily using battery, but this is still useful to stop apps that are running and active. Definitely a debatable one, as the argument against doing this is that it then uses battery to reopen the app, so perhaps just test it out and see for yourself.
Last but not least....
Now this last little tip of mine is certainly one that can be debated, but I do it nonetheless...
Remember, none of this is advice as such, it's just what I do to keep myself sane in knowing/believing (philosophical debate here?!) that I've done all I can to maximise battery life.
What I like to do is when installing a rom have the phone charged to 100% before doing so. This originates from the days of believing that batteries need to be calibrated. There is definitely lots of research that states it may not be needed and a simple Google search can reveal research into this, but it's something I like to do anyway.
So essentially my method regarding this, needed or not, is:
Charge phone to 100%
Update rom
Use phone until it switches off at 0%
Charge phone fully to 100% without interruption
I'm not stating this is needed, it's just what I do. Take it or leave it! I'm aware that there is science behind not allowing phone batteries to die at 0% in order to prolong the life of it, but again, it's just what I do and it works for me.
Your call!
That is it for now. As mentioned I highly welcome your comments and suggestions for adding to this thread so please do let me know if any questions etc.I'm purposefully not showing my SOT/battery stats as they won't be useful to anyone - the above tips are here for that!​
Nice thread.. we need something like this. Thanks
marko94 said:
Nice thread.. we need something like this. Thanks
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Thanks, let's make it the best it can be
Great post. I haven't used substratum since my latest phone HTC one m8.. How did u installed it? With magisk?
Thanks for this extensive write up....
sakaki14567 said:
Great post. I haven't used substratum since my latest phone HTC one m8.. How did u installed it? With magisk?
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Yeah, substratum via play store and there's a magisk module too. Follow its guidance and let us know if any questions
Many thx for all this advice ?
Thank you. I would like to see more ideas and for this thread to get pinned and updated for more tips
hardtheory said:
Many thx for all this advice ?
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Ahmad Shawawreh said:
Thank you. I would like to see more ideas and for this thread to get pinned and updated for more tips
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Enjoy guys.
Let me know if you feel any difference and if any questions/additions
cd993 said:
Yeah, substratum via play store and there's a magisk module too. Follow its guidance and let us know if any questions
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Compiled everything, except the overlay of android system (it remains blue accent for some reason) phone overlay and system ui.
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
Tharitsaivet said:
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
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As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310 ?
hardtheory said:
As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310
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From what you said, it's seem to be good for standby draining. As I normally use the phone when I have the break from 9am to 6pm only 2 hrs screen on, My current phone battery are lower than 40% in the evening.
Tharitsaivet said:
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
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hardtheory said:
As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310 ?
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Tharitsaivet said:
From what you said, it's seem to be good for standby draining. As I normally use the phone when I have the break from 9am to 6pm only 2 hrs screen on, My current phone battery are lower than 40% in the evening.
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OK guys here is some stats for you, see attached. Been off charge 21 hours with almost 5 hours SOT down to around 40%.
Going strong!
Hi, also running xiaomi.eu but can't find the screen of your last screenshoot. Mine under battery and performance looks completely difderent
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tbv2005 said:
Hi, also running xiaomi.eu but can't find the screen of your last screenshoot. Mine under battery and performance looks completely difderent
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I use Nova launcher which has that additional battery info screen
cd993 said:
I use Nova launcher which has that additional battery info screen
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I'm using Nova too, but I've never seen that screen before. Where can I find it / activate it?
janvandusschoten said:
I'm using Nova too, but I've never seen that screen before. Where can I find it / activate it?
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You can add it to the home screen as a shortcut:
Long press empty space on home screen - add widget - shortcut activities (drag that to home screen) - Settings - Battery and Performance (PowerUsageSummary)
Then you'll have a shortcut to this battery info screen
10hrs39mins, best yet! On WiFi all day just light chrome/xda/reddit etc.
This is on latest RevolutionOS rom
Has somebody noticed that email apps (like bluemail, gmail...) make the phone never sleep totally ?
I often have 15 hours "held awake" in my gsam battery stats! [emoji33].
If I kill the email apps then my phone sleeps MUCH, better.
I tried several mail apps..same result.
Is it because of Android 9 or Xiaomi?
On my other devices (Android 7 and 8) I don't have this problem with the same apps...
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Question [FIX] Prevent apps from killing themselves

Hi
I went from a s20 5g with 12Go of ram and never had any problems at all with ram managment but with this brand new s22+, by default apps never stopped to kill themselves in a very agressive way.
I tried a bunch of diffrents methods to avoid this but none of them seemed to really work.
- disable of kind of power saving
- go in each apps settings > battery > and check "optimized" for de power plan
- change the power managment itself
Etc etc
And then, I did something that seems to finally work :
DISABLE RAM PLUS !!!
Try it out if you have the same issue
Agreed, "RAM Plus" should be renamed to "I/O Minus". Or Samsung should have just been honest and called it swap. And then they should have let Android do its thing with memory management instead of inventing features that try to hide how many resources their bloaatware consumes. With 12GB RAM the effects of RAM Plus were minimal. With 8G RAM the negative effects are more pronounced so even more important to disable ram plus on the S22s

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