Root Without Triggering Knox - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I have tried kingroot, kingoroot and kingroot pc version.
All of these are failed can I root without tripping Knox or can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
Galaxy S9+
SM G965F

If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
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tdevaughn said:
If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
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Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?

I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.

WodanGrimnar said:
I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.
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Thank you for helping, my last questions:
Can I download them and install manually or by firechain? This is my first root so will I get important disadvantages?

Download manually.
Beside tripping Knox and no OTA's anymore no disadvantages. Maybe your guarantee is Void after rooting.

Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.

selimsandal141 said:
can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
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The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.

Jogg3r said:
Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.
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scottusa2008 said:
The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.
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So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?

selimsandal141 said:
So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?
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Besides the usual risks involved with a rooted device...
Knox becomes permently disabled and any apps that depend on it will not work.. So Samsung pay, samsung health, secure folders, samsung pass are a few I know of that would not work.
Other apps may also pick up on the knox trip and/or detect the root will also not work.. Depending on the root utility or what's all included with the root used sometimes you can hide the root from some apps, sometimes you can't. I would not suggest being of the mindset that once done you won't have to worry about it.. As apps are updated things can change.
On a a side note there have been ways to get Samsung health to work posted on the internet, but how well they work or for how long may vary.

Samsung Health works without any Problems here, sync with Gear S3 without issues.
Rooted with Magisk, Soldiers Rom and Firmware.

I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)

Izmile said:
I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)
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Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?

Samsung Pass Working On Rooted Device
ShaDisNX255 said:
Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?
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Sorry for the late reply!
Well basically, you just have to rename the Samsung Pass app's extension located in:
1. system/priv-apps folder
2. system/data/app folder
Then reboot your device...
This guy over here found the solution for this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/samsung-pass-knox-tripped-devices-t3687977
Edit:
Original Samsung Pass menu is now replaced with toggle buttons. Flip the toggles and you're set!
Check attached images (I'm rooted, with a custom kernel, working Samsung Pass).

selimsandal141 said:
Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?
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First I rooted mine using custom rooted kernel (ElementalX), that time I was not able to use S Health, but this method solved the problem: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306
But I'd recommend you to root your device through Magisk. (You have to install TWRP, then flash Magisk.) It's systemless, this way you can get OTA updates!

It should be worth noteing that the classic root that many users are pointing to will trip knox, however there are methods that do not trip knox but are not exactly the same persistent root methods. Both S7 and S8 had the same problem but yet methods existed that allowed rooting without triggering knox.

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[Q] How to root Sprint Note 3 (SM-N900P) with NC5 without tripping Knox

Can someone please tell me how to root the Sprint Note 3 (SM-N900P) that currently has Baseband Version NC5 without tripping Knox? I would like to root the phone without voiding the warranty. If this is not known, can I uninstall Knox then root? Any help would be appreciatd. Thanks in advance.
TransformEast said:
Can someone please tell me how to root the Sprint Note 3 (SM-N900P) that currently has Baseband Version NC5 without tripping Knox? I would like to root the phone without voiding the warranty. If this is not known, can I uninstall Knox then root? Any help would be appreciatd. Thanks in advance.
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Some were here in the forum there was posted away to root without tripping Knox. But you can not uninstall Knox.. I would suggest just rooting it, let it trip knox and be done with it.. If you need to make a trip to the Sprint store, just flash back to stock... Sprint for the most part does not have a policy against rooting as I have been told..
doubledragon5 said:
Some were here in the forum there was posted away to root without tripping Knox. But you can not uninstall Knox.. I would suggest just rooting it, let it trip knox and be done with it.. If you need to make a trip to the Sprint store, just flash back to stock... Sprint for the most part does not have a policy against rooting as I have been told..
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I think you can uninstall Knox if you search Google on how to uninstall Knox there is a YouTube video and even a Samsung site describing, but I do not know if by doing this it allows me to perform a route without trripping Knox
TransformEast said:
I think you can uninstall Knox if you search Google on how to uninstall Knox there is a YouTube video and even a Samsung site describing, but I do not know if by doing this it allows me to perform a route without trripping Knox
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You can't root kit kat without tripping Knox. ... kingo never updated to kit kat ... so the only way is cf auto root
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TransformEast said:
I think you can uninstall Knox if you search Google on how to uninstall Knox there is a YouTube video and even a Samsung site describing, but I do not know if by doing this it allows me to perform a route without trripping Knox
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Yes there is a possibility to root without tripping KNOX, CF-auto works most of the time if your careful. BUT, that's it once you install a custom recovery you will trip KNOX warranty (e-fuse) . You can NOT remove KNOX completely, however you can disable it there are several sites with lists of the KNOX files, and KNOX related container files. Just google it to get the sites. You will an app like Root Explorer and be rooted to delete the files. In the end there will be four KNOX files you will never able to erase. They just keep coming back on reboot, thankfully they remain empty. Why go through this because KNOX was written for Samsung by the NSA. "THERE TRACKING YOU" This is from Samsung's own site http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/local/samsung-unveils-samsung-knox-for-secure-byod !!!
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Yes there is a possibility to root without tripping KNOX, CF-auto works most of the time if your careful. BUT, that's it once you install a custom recovery you will trip KNOX warranty (e-fuse) . You can NOT remove KNOX completely, however you can disable it there are several sites with lists of the KNOX files, and KNOX related container files. Just google it to get the sites. You will an app like Root Explorer and be rooted to delete the files. In the end there will be four KNOX files you will never able to erase. They just keep coming back on reboot, thankfully they remain empty. Why go through this because KNOX was written for Samsung by the NSA. "THERE TRACKING YOU" This is from Samsung's own site http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/local/samsung-unveils-samsung-knox-for-secure-byod !!!
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Chain fire States himself that it trips Knox ... Once you have 4.4.2 there is no way to root without tripping Knox
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Epix4G said:
Chain fire States himself that it trips Knox ... Once you have 4.4.2 there is no way to root without tripping Knox
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I agree, I have seen a couple posts where people have gotten lucky. Personally I say root and trip KNOX and forget about it. Sprint has never turned me down for warranty service, rooted or not.
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What about SquareTrade warrantees
There is an exploit to root sprint nc5 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 without tripping Knox. It is an apk called towel root. It does other phones as well as sprint note 3. I have not done it myself but some already have done it successfully. Search Xda for it.
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Towelroot works.. Knox 0x0.. 4.4 kit kat
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kosmo42o said:
Towelroot works.. Knox 0x0.. 4.4 kit kat
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Towel root.
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[Q] To Root or not to Root?... that is the question.

Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
chiquito3 said:
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
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You cannot root NH5 software directly with towel root, but there is a thread that shows exactly step by step how to downgrade to a version that towel root will root and then go back to the latest. This procedure does NOT trip Knox. Knox is tripped anytime you load a custom recovery or kernel.
So, if you just want root so you can run Xposed and Wannam and what not, that's not a problem and you can odin back to stock if you need to for a return. Look around here on the TMO S5 threads and you'll find all this hashed over and over.
Good Luck!
Hit thanks if I've helped.
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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Yes you can root your phone but you will have to roll back the firmware back NE6 and then use towel root. Once you do that, then you can use pc odin to flash the nh5 firmware and use mobile odin pro to flash the NH5 software back onto your phone and retain root. Just remember that you will not trip knox using the method above, but if you flash a custom recovery or non tmo s5 kernel you will trip knox. There are a few threads here that you help you root and upgrade to keep root. Make sure you read thru some of the rooting threads before you do anything to your phone, It is your responsibility to make sure you know how and what your are doing when flash your phone, We are not responsible if you forget to read or flash something that is not for your type of phone, if you brick your phone or if you trip knox. Also Remember that if you do trip knox, there currently is no way to reset the knox counter, so please Do Not Ask.
Have fun and read before you decide to do anything to your phone..
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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chiquito3 said:
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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First Question is do you have premium handset protection? If so then I wouldnt worry about Knox at all. Handset protection covers everything including running over your phone with a car . I have had devices that I didnt have insurance on in the past when I was a NOOB that had the warranty flag tripped and never had any problems at T-Mobile with replacing it . T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person . It doesnt cost them anything like it would having to repair cracked screens etc... I have the S5 G900T and I rooted while I was still in the T-Mobile store buying it LOL . The sales guy told me their was no way to root it at the time (which he was wrong ). Anyway I understand kind of why you wouldnt want to trip knox but at the end of the day it really wont matter if tmobile is your carrier . There really isnt a difference between a tripped phone and one that isnt when it comes to getting it replaced . I know this from experience and many many others on XDA will tell you the same .
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T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person ..
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It's my understanding that the KNOX security flag is a electronic fuse. Once tripped it's burned to 1 state and a "re-flash" won't repair that.
That said, I could see T-Mobile taking it back because of the value of the replaceable parts, including an intact display. Enough profit is made on the extended protection plans that T-mobile could grind them all up and use them for fancy pavement surfacing. I've yet, for example to replace "anything" under an extended service plan. I get them to be careful, but there's been plenty of $$$ for those plan providers.
Extended service plans? Total and absolutely guaranteed profit for vendors.
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I read the towelroot thread but it does not say anything on how to downgrade firmware version.
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hI THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
1. DOWNLOAD G900TUVU1ANE6 FULL STOCK TAR FROM HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358541270
2. uNZIP THE FILE AND FLASH IT USING PC ODIN. WHICH YOU CAN GET HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. ROOT WITH TOWELROOT . TOWELROOT IS HERE https://towelroot.com/
4.DOWNLOAD MOBILE ODIN PRO FROM THE PLAYSTORE IT WILL COST YOU AROUND $6
5.DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST STOCK TAR TMB-G900TUVU1BNH5 FROM SAMMOBILE OR FOR A MUCH FASTER LINK GET IT HERE https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
6. UNZIP THE FILE AND COPY IT TO YOUR SDCARD OR INTERNAL STORAGE ON YOUR PHONE.
7. USING MOBILE ODIN PRO CHOOSE THE OPEN FILE SELECTION AND THEN CHOOSE THE FILE THAT YOU COPIED TO THE PHONE
8. IGNORE THE WARNING FROM MOBILE ODIN REGARDING KNOX. IT WONT TRIP. TICK EVEROOT AND INJECT SUPERSU FLASH THE PHONE .
YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED UPON ONCE IT RESTARTS AND ON THE NEWEST FIRMWARE.
YOUR BOOTLOADER CAN NOT BE UPGRADED BY MOBILE ODIN. THAT CAN BE FLASHED SEPERATELY BY USING PC ODIN.LOOK FOR THE BOOTLOADER FILE IF YOU WISH TO UPGRADE IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO INSTALL AT THIS POINT. MOST OF THESE FILES CAN BE FOUND HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 OR HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715487
IF YOU CANT FIND SOMETHING USE GOOGLE.
FINALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE IS SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I WOULD READ THESE THREADS BEFORE DOIN G ANYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/nh5-stock-rom-ur-phone-to-stock-t2901732 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...all-updatetmb-g900tuvu1bnh5-size-1-5-t2873090 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
LASTLY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT XPOSED DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH THE S5 IT BREAKS PRIVACY MODE S HEALTH CAUSES LAG AND IS ONLY USEFUL ON DALVIK. ONCE ANDROID L IS RELEASED . IT WILL BE USING THE ART ANDROID RUNTIME WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPOSED .
HAVE FUN!

to root or not to root

I've just bought edge few days ago and wanted to know if rooting was worth it.
Will fingerprint still work?
Will i lose any functions?
is it easy to remove root and go back to stock?
which custom rom is most stable?
thanks
Will fingerprint still work? DEPENDS ON THE METHOD OF ROOT
Will i lose any functions? SAME AS ABOVE
is it easy to remove root and go back to stock? YES
which custom rom is most stable? I like Xtestolite with the newest unikernal
Running 5.0.2, rooted with Ping Pong Root.
Fingerprint unlock still works.
Haven't noticed any functionality failure, aside from no OTA updates...
As for unrooting, there are guides out there on the internets, however, from my understanding it boils down to "Use smart switch".
Can't speak on custom roms yet. Haven't taken the plunge and given up my Knox status... yet.
There doesn't appear to be an exploit for 5.1.1 yet (please someone correct me) to allow us to root 5.1.1 without flashing (and therefore tripping Knox) unless you are running a T-Mobile specific variant of our beautiful phone.
Hope that helps?
Mischala said:
Running 5.0.2, rooted with Ping Pong Root.
Fingerprint unlock still works.
Haven't noticed any functionality failure, aside from no OTA updates...
As for unrooting, there are guides out there on the internets, however, from my understanding it boils down to "Use smart switch".
Can't speak on custom roms yet. Haven't taken the plunge and given up my Knox status... yet.
There doesn't appear to be an exploit for 5.1.1 yet (please someone correct me) to allow us to root 5.1.1 without flashing (and therefore tripping Knox) unless you are running a T-Mobile specific variant of our beautiful phone.
Hope that helps?
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You say installing custom roms will affect knox. That is not entirely true. As long as the rom is based on the original kernel k box should stay 0*0
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You say installing custom roms will affect knox. That is not entirely true. As long as the rom is based on the original kernel k box should stay 0*0
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I was under the impression that flashing Anything that was not a signed Samsung package would trip the knox bit.
can you link any technical explanation on how the Knox detection functions? I haven't been able to find anything about it except Samsung's spiel about how Knox protects corporate users.
Mischala said:
I was under the impression that flashing Anything that was not a signed Samsung package would trip the knox bit.
can you link any technical explanation on how the Knox detection functions? I haven't been able to find anything about it except Samsung's spiel about how Knox protects corporate users.
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Honestly I understand little of the technical jargon but I have proof that not all roms trip knox
Some useful info. Thanks all.
I've updated to the 5.1.1 so probably won't root for the time being as seems some have faced issue.
riz157 said:
Some useful info. Thanks all.
I've updated to the 5.1.1 so probably won't root for the time being as seems some have faced issue.
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Nothing wrong with that. Although root has both pros and cons, it is only useful for some. No matter which you choose, it will be a good choice.

[Q]Work around for Samsung Pay with tripped KNOX?

Will this be possible? I was wondering if providing the apk files would help since I got accepted into the beta program but I tripped knox without knowing that Samsung Pay is going to be disabled.
Both apks are in the zip. The framework is what activates Samsung Pay.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9tlO7cZO3X_SEpRZElabFNEeW8/view?usp=docslist_api
Same issue I hope some creates a workaround
Bump for this. I will love whoever does this forever
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Will this be possible? I was wondering if providing the apk files would help since I got accepted into the beta program but I tripped knox without knowing that Samsung Pay is going to be disabled.
Both apks are in the zip. The framework is what activates Samsung Pay.
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Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Well first of all my device is rooted WITH KNOX tripped. That's how I was able to access the apk files.
bump? any updates?
just_parker said:
Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Parker, now that beta is over, is what you believe true? I am considering going back to straight stock if it will work with Samsung Pay but I just don't want to go through that if my tripped knox will prevent me from using Samsung Pay... Thanks!
I know this a little late but i have confirmed that samsung pay does not work with a tripped KNOX even if on stock rom and stock kernel. I am not even rooted and I don't have a custom recovery installed but it still didn't work.
BlackMeat_420 said:
I know this a little late but i have confirmed that samsung pay does not work with a tripped KNOX even if on stock rom and stock kernel. I am not even rooted and I don't have a custom recovery installed but it still didn't work.
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Yeah neither will the fingerprint scanner for logging into certain banking apps that have the fingerprint option.
Once you have rooted your device, it will be damaged irreversibly.
It's more satisfying to keep root, install a custom rom and xposed and rootcloak.
Samsung pay will not work anyways "i think" but at least the banking apps will work 100%!
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Once you have rooted your device, it will be damaged irreversibly.
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Rooting doesn't damage anything. Software CHOOSING do be a douche is the issue. Assign the blame where it belongs.

Quick Question...

Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
TULOA said:
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
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if u trip knox samsung will not work
installing custom rom like cm or something else will trip knox
if u want samsung pay dont root or do anything
I understand that but that wasnt my question.
Trying to find about doing the steps above.
Install official samsung down to rootable firmware then use that root with flashfire. Was told that method could work. However if I can just get root from a downgrade ill be happy.
Downgrading could be possible with Odin depending on y your firmware version. You can always try installing the earliest firmware for that particular variant. Worst thing to happen would be a failure of installation. The earliest firmware versions are compatible with pingpongroot , but if the su binaries are detected Samsung pay will fail no matter what
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
TULOA said:
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
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It is completely based on date. When I tried flashing an early firmware on my galaxy s4 installation failed and I just got a 'fail' message in Odin. No Knox issues. I would assume that would happen with you. Go give it a try. I am rather confident that it will fail on your device, but if it does no worries, just restore the latest firmware and live without root

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