[Comparison] HONOR 20 Series: Decoding HONOR’s Self-Developed Enhanced Bluetooth - Honor 20 Guides, News, & Discussion

HONOR 20 Series: Decoding HONOR’s Self-Developed Enhanced Bluetooth
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A. Ultimate Bluetooth Connectivity 200 Meters Apart
Bluetooth should be a familiar term to most, since it is indispensable in tasks such as transferring files, connecting to wireless speakers and headphones or becoming a standard function for smartphones.
Many users enjoy Bluetooth when connecting to devices that are close-by. However, when the devices are further apart, especially when there are obstructions in the environment, the connection becomes unstable or may even experience cut-offs.
In response to this problem, the recently-launched HONOR 20 introduced an all-new enhanced Bluetooth technology. With the self-developed Hi1103 wireless chipset, the handset can intelligently identify environmental factors and the strength of the Bluetooth signal, thus automatically adjusting the response of the smartphone. At its optimal performance, the HONOR 20 can achieve a steady connection with devices that are 200 meters apart. Enhanced Bluetooth is also far better than ordinary Bluetooth in cases of wall or architectural obstructions. Let us deep-dive into HONOR’s brand-new technology.
B. High-Speed Bluetooth Mode
Pauses in Bluetooth connection can be easily explained. Take Bluetooth headphones for an example, the connection will become unsteady when the transmission power of either the smartphone or headphone is inadequate, or when the signal receptivity is not strong enough. Imagine two people speaking to each other, if one person is not loud enough or if the other person is hard of hearing, the message would not be transferred.
There are hundreds and thousands of Bluetooth handsets on the market with different capabilities, it is not realistic to push all of their ability to send and receive. At present, the only solution is to start from smartphones and improve their ability to send and receive, which was also the original idea of our enhanced Bluetooth.
Firstly, HONOR introduced the brand-new high-speed Bluetooth mode which tackles the transmission process of Bluetooth signals. Transmission power is doubled, so even if the receiver (Bluetooth headphone) is not sensitive, signals will still be sent steadily as the sender’s (smartphone) voice has been heightened.
In fact, increasing the transmitting power of Bluetooth is a rather simple technology. Another obstacle, however, would be power consumption. Bluetooth itself is not power consuming, but if the high-speed mode is switched on all the time, the battery would be drained at a quicker rate. This is also why high-speed Bluetooth has not been implemented on a larger scale.
C. AI Intelligent Scenario Detection
The HONOR R&D team invested a huge amount of research and testing to achieve AI detection of different scenarios. The high-speed mode will only be switched on when truly required by users, and switched off intelligently in other scenarios to strike a perfect balance between performance and power loss. The AI detection process involves a lot of standard analysis, explained below with a simple illustration of retransmission rate and Wi-Fi strength.
For retransmission rate, it was mentioned that headphones will reply to confirm that it has received signals from the smartphone, similar to proving that “I have received this part of the music, please play the next section”. When the smartphone does not receive a reply, its Bluetooth often sends the same signal again to try to connect, which is known as retransmission. HONOR 20 can intelligently detect the frequency of retransmissions; when retransmission rate reaches a certain extent, the high-speed mode is activated in an attempt to connect.
Wi-Fi strength is another important indicator. You may wonder how Wi-Fi affects Bluetooth as they are two different functions. In fact, there are a lot of overlap in aspects such as antenna and radio frequency usage. Hence, users downloading an important document with the high-speed Bluetooth mode on may affect its Wi-Fi processing. To tackle this situation, HONOR 20 has designed a detection mechanism through copious consumer behavior analysis. It intelligently identifies usage of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth to balance out between the two.
The two indicators only form a small part of HONOR’s unique AI detection process. HONOR 20 analyses a compiled database to decide whether it activates the high-speed Bluetooth mode.
Apart from signal transmission, HONOR 20 also uses the world-leading HiSilicon Bluetooth chip and optimal antenna design for Bluetooth receptivity, usage is not affected even when it is met with headphones with lower transmission power.
D. Ultimate Performance Coupled with Safety
The transmission power of Bluetooth itself is low, so even with the high-speed mode activated, its strength is far below other communication tools in our daily lives such as Wi-Fi. Relevant indicators of the HONOR 20 enhanced Bluetooth strictly comply with the international standard of electromagnetic wave SAR, there is no need to worry about any human health concerns.
Let us look at actual statistics. Under normal conditions, Bluetooth audio transmission should look like this:
The blue in the picture indicates successful transmission rates, while the light red and red indicates areas in which transmission were problematic.
When the distance between Bluetooth headphones and smartphone increases, or when there are obstacles in-between, the data will look like this:
You can see that the red has significantly increased while the green area has obviously decreased, meaning that more transmission failures have been identified. Naturally, users’ connection with the Bluetooth headphones may be poor or even cut-off under such conditions.
However, when the high-speed Bluetooth mode is on, audio transmission gradually returns to its peak despite remote transmission and obstructions.
In another extreme test, HONOR 20 showed significant advantages over other smartphones with high-speed Bluetooth. When tested with the same BeastX Bluetooth headphone to play music, HONOR 20 achieved a steady connection with devices up to a distance of 244 meters, while results for iPhone Xs Max and Galaxy S10+ were 121 meters and 152 meters respectively.

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Ready to get BT GPS + Software.. opinions...

OK.. I picked out the Holux GPSlim236 and TomTom Navigator 5 USA. I was wondering if anybody else has this combo on the wizard and how well it works? I am open to suggestions for different gps receivers and different USA navigation/mapping software as well..
Thanks!
Yeah, I've decided on the Holux as well, but I'm leaning more towards Inav by Iguidance...but still haven't ordered...still trying to see what works best...
i've heard reviews that some ppl had to do some workarounds b4 Tomtom worked.
Thanks to all the positive feebacks from ppl in the UK...however...any1 in the US have any comments??
I'm using it right now and it works great. the only catch is that the latest TT 5.21 (with bluetooth fix) only works with the latest US maps v567+
-gene
I use the Adapt BT GPS unit, with the Nemerix 16-channel chip. Works like a breeze with TomTom NAVIGATOR 5.21, this is the one:
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It gets a fix very quickly (around 30 seconds when switching on), runs forever on 1 battery charge (10+ hours; uses the same battery as the Nokia 6600 which I used with it before the Wizard).
Works with all kinds of other software as well, highly recommended!
Can't find any info or any place that sells the Adapt Receiver in the US and very hard to find it outside the US as well...
I see now that it is sometimes re-branded as 'Oasis Media Bluetooth GPS'. It is technically 100% identical, except a different lettering on the outside. It sells in various online shops for about €65, which is about $84.
Here's the shop that I bought it from with a link to the product: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...nl_en&url=http://www.pdashop.nl/product/19348
I also saw that Adapt already has newer models, the AD-500 and AD-700 which are smaller and feature a mini-USB jack for direct connections.
AD-500: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...nl_en&url=http://www.pdashop.nl/product/18249
(€95 ^= $122)
AD-700: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...nl_en&url=http://www.pdashop.nl/product/21808
(€99 ^= $128)
Thanks to Babelfish for some funny translations
OK.. I will keep the Adapt one in mind? Anybody in the US have any opinions on USA-sold BT GPS devices?
j0bro, got the same one as you......never had a problem
I use TT5 with a nice little blue QStarz BT-Q880 32-channel GPS receiver which even has a magnetic base (and comes supplied with a metal plate to affix to a surface in your car, so it won't slide around when cornering/braking)... It says it's 32 channel, has a nifty Auto setting so that if you have it plugged into your car charger it'll autosense when the car's turned on and only turn on then. From cold, it doesn't take long at all to pick up the satellites, and from a warm start (put into Off then turned to On or Auto within a few minutes) it's instantanous, which is handy if you ever need to reset your device.
TT5.0, GB Plus map. The little QStarz bugger looks like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/32-CHANNEL-BL...itemZ9731155991QQcategoryZ75327QQcmdZViewItem ...
Got it for a song too, only about 45GBP which I didn't think was bad at all considering at the time inferior devices were selling for at least 15/20 quid more (plus ridiculous postage!) The device works fine as either Other NMEA Bluetooth GPS or Other Bluetooth GPS, just pair it on your phone (instructions + paircode come with it) and then set up Bluetooth Serial Comms and instruct TomTom to use COM6 to receive data (it's 6 IIRC... Yeah, sounds right). Like the Adept someone mentioned earlier, it does last for aaaaaaaaages on one charge, but typical my luck, it had to run out of juice one day whilst I was driving down the M40 - so there's me, plugging in a car charger and trying to plug the jack into the unit, then trying to reopen the crashed TomTom and correctly configure my journey to continue... All at 75mph! Ooer :S ... Good job I had a phone cradle otherwise I would've been royally screwed, but yeah, the GPS unit is great. Very small, unobtrusive and the LEDs are clear enough to see even in sunlight so you can see exactly what it's up to.
Awesome man... QStarz sounds like it has it so far with the 32 chans.
In fact.. this unit is sold in the US as the "Rikaline GPS-6033" for those interested for around $85 USD.
Ya learn something new every day
OK.. After much research, I have decided on everything at a very reasonable price too.
GPS Unit: i-Blue Bluetooth GPS [NEMERIX GPS Module V3.7]
http://www.semsons.com/ibhiseaublgp.html
Software: TomTom Navigator 5 USA
Memory Card : Mini SD 1GB
And a powered cradle mount:
http://store.yahoo.com/semsons-inc/ipocrmowiins.html
All for... $274.99 USD... Not bad. If anyone has any gripes about TomTom, my alternatives are i.Guidance,Route 66,Mapopolis,Destinator.
Let me know what you think!
OK.. I am assuming nobody has anything better to suggest than TomTom.. If you do, let me know or else I will make the purchase soon.
This is a good thread to read too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45064&highlight=
I picked up the Semsons package with the Solarius receiver and iGuidance. I finally got it to work after some bum info from Semsons and some good help from the nice folks on this forum.
The receiver seems to work fine although the solar seems to be more of a gimmick since the battery goes fast and after sitting in the sun in my car it doesn't seem to pick up enough of a charge to make it usable again so the iBlue does sound nicer, especially with the auto-detect feature. I'm still not fired up about iGuidance -- it seems light on features but that's compared to my experience with NeverLost, not any other PPC products. I'd also still suspect my performance issues with it are the result of a patchwork installation. I'd be very interested in knowing what Tom Tom is like in comparison, maybe someday I'll pick it up too.
-T
I'll be quite honest and confess that I didn't pay for TT5 (blagged it off a mate and got the GB Plus maps from someone else), but I paid for the device to use it on and I paid for the GPS receiver, and for a student that was still way more than I should've spent
My experience with TT5 is on an Alpine, which has those (in)famous SD card access issues, but when it works, it works really well. I can't fault it, of course you have the 'famous' TomTom interface (which really is quite good), it's easy to use, clearly laid out, and has some nice features like muting TomTom sounds during incoming calls, routing them automatically to loudspeaker if you don't have a headset connected, all built in (which I'm sure all the others do as well like the Garmin units and the other various all-in-one solutions), but yeah, can't fault TomTom really.

Mogul as awesome GPS and MP3 player for the car!

I know many of you already use your Moguls for everything including GPS and MP3's but I wanted to share my in car setup. I'm using the Seidio charging stereo audio out car kit which swivels from portrait to landscape orientation. This is specially designed for the Mogul and allows the keyboard to be used as you can see from the photos. I have the audio out from the cradle running into my car's aux audio input for great sound quality from mp3/wma's and the gps audio. I use bluetooth when using the phone which pauses/resumes the music. I use TTN6, Live Search and Google Maps with the dcd2.1 rom with GPS and revA enabled. The whole package just works awesome!! I am so pleased compared to having a separate BT GPS receiver with my Treo 600wx. It also works great for the occasional ORB streamed TV show or movie while in traffic Here are some pics. Looks great at night too!!
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Hello fellow BMW driver. I've got my Seidio dock on order for my '98 540 6-spd.
Hey SR - Glad to find someone who has actually purchased this dock.
I saw it on their site and it did look to be the most feature packed mount.
Two Questions...
1 - How good are the mounting options? (suction cup, vent clips etc...)
2 - How exactly (what type of port) does the external DC Power outlet work? (is it a USB plug? standard DC Car tube or simply a pigtail with USB Mini on it?)
Sorry I know those questions aren't exactly on topic with the thread title but your the only one I know who actually has the seido...
It was a bit pricey but I'm willing to pay for good stuff.
I have a similar setup, but I made my own car mount that does charging and audio. I can't open the KB though. I made it because the seidio was too big, bulky, expensive and overkill, and there were no other mounts that did charging and audio. See here:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/703685-post18.html
What mp3 player do you use? Pocket player is awesome. I sync with my library on my computer to my 8gb microSD with WMP11 then use PocketPlayer on my mogul. The library browser is very nice. It has a touch scroll interface. I can't wait to show off to someone with an ipod touch.
Asphyx, the mounting options are basically suction cup flexible arm or air vent clips. I use the air vent clips and they work fine. They can be a bit difficult to remove once locked though. I find it vibrates and bounces around less than the suction cup arm route. The external DC power outlet has a DC tube type jack and it comes with a cigarette lighter power cable. You can also get one that wires directly into your car's power block if you want. The thing works very well. To me it seems a bit overpriced but is the only adapter I have found that will do what it does. It is very stable, holds the device well and it's easy to insert and remove the Mogul. Sound quality is great through my aux audio input and love having the keyboard open as it makes navigating WMP, Tom Tom and other software effortless.
Thanks Shadow...
I know it does seem expensive but it is the first one I have ever seen that will do landscape and not use the padded pincers (which press buttons you don't want pressed) to hold the unit in place...
I think I'll bite the bullet and get it.
Thanks for the review!
One additional note, I opened mine up(yes, this voids the warranty) and unplugged the internal speaker. I never use that anyway and I was getting some low level buzzing from the speaker even with the volume control on the cradle turned all the way down. Maybe interference from the Mogul's radio? Not sure. Anyway, that worked fine as there is a small connector inside the unit to easily disconnect the speaker(although I am not advocating doing this). Also, sometimes the wifi button gets turned on when you slide the mogul into the cradle. not a huge issue but FYI.
Thanks Again SR...
So the buzz is just on the internal speaker not the audio out you ran to the Car system?
correct, it was coming from the internal speaker I think related to some interference with the phone's wifi or cellular radio but went away after I disconnected the speaker.
What software are you using to get the music to pause when a call comes in? Mine keeps playing, but you can't hear it until I hang up the phone. I use bluetooth and GSPlayer for my mp3 player.
Dan
damcis, GSPlayer is not phone-aware software. Meaning, it will keep on chugging away at your mp3's regardless of the phone calls coming in.
In order to do the automatic-pause-resume thing, you have to use something like the built in Windows Media Player or HTC Audio Manager. Both of those are aware of the phone part of your device, whereas your average software is not.
Now, as far as this in-dash setup... it looks pretty sweet. But I went a simpler and more future-proof method.
I ripped out my Nissan factory stereo and installed a Sony BT2500 bluetooth head unit. It supports A2DP, so absolutely no cables or anything are required. Basically, get in the car, press play, and whatever playlist happens to be open in your device will immediately start coming out of the car's speakers.
The quality is surprisingly good, and you don't even need to take your phone out of your pocket!!! (great for those short trips around the corner- I find that hooking up my phone to one of those units and then unplugging/plugging when I leave and come back is sometimes more of a hassle than its worth. Imagine being able to play your music just by having your phone ON you)
Now, as far as navigation goes, I bought myself one of those cheapo $5 (shipped) plastic belt holsters from ebay, which can hold the phone face in or face out.
Because my particular vehicle (Sentra) has a compartment on the center of the dashboard, I was able to mount a loop that attaches from inside the compartment and the belt holster clips onto it very easily, and holds it securely.
The advantages of doing it my way:
-If not using GPS or going on short drives, you don't actually need to connect ANYTHING! You can leave the phone in your pocket...
-No propietary parts means that this setup is future-proof, and cross-platform. The a2dp stereo will still be there when/if I switch to another phone, and when my wife drives the car, her phone syncs up and plays music as well (samsung standard fare). The OP's setup here is 6800-specific.
-When not using the device, my "holster" can unclip from the loop and stow away (holster and loop) into the compartment of my dashboard. Instant cleanup, nothing cluttering up the dashboard.
-Can hold the device, or pass it to someone else in the car without disconnecting anything. (Last night handed the phone to my sister in law in the backseat to control the music while still connected over a2dp)
-Clean, less dashboard space used, even when holster is out and car charger connected.
Disadvantages:
-Have to take it out of the holster in order to use the keyboard.
-um... that's about it?
Anyway, I'll try to take some pictures soon and post them so you can see what I'm talking about.
Quick question. Has anyone tried streaming their music library using ORB and connecting their mogul to a car stereo? I am curious if the sound would be any good or if the connection is too choppy? Just curious. Thanks.
Mounting
Sorry, wrong thread.
degicank said:
Quick question. Has anyone tried streaming their music library using ORB and connecting their mogul to a car stereo? I am curious if the sound would be any good or if the connection is too choppy? Just curious. Thanks.
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works fine. Even at 1x data.
Think about this... low quality mp3 is encoded at 64kbps. Standard/medium quality (often referred to as CD-Quality) mp3 is 128kbps. Higher Quality is around 190kpbs, and audiophiles prefer to keep it at 200-300kpbs (although most people can't tell the difference at that bitrate).
If your EVDO connection is averaging 600-800kbps, its more than enough speed to stream mp3's in FULL quality.
1x data is around 120k, so even if you're not in an EVDO area, you should still be able to get at least "CD-Quality" stereo!
I used ORB to stream my mp3s from home when I first got my mogul...and it worked great...now its not working again with the new ROM
Been thinking of a car mount myself. I found out that with GStreamer I can stream music from my home MP3 server. Still need to work on how to secure it, but it would let me stream any of my music over EVDO to my phone.
Is the internal GPS worth it? Been thinking about flashing but not sure if I want to do all the work...would have to setup a windows partition on my Linux box to sync correctly
wow i like that mount and it looks like you have a 3 series! new body, thats my favorite car, i want the 335 coupe BADLY. I been using my phone as Mp3 in my Nissan maxima for the longest, works wonders and if a phone call comes in, music stops and take call from my bt headset. But a mount would make a world of difference. How much you get that mount for?
I am having issues with the adapter to bluetooth handoff and back. Using WMP, sometimes things will transfer properly to my headset, but then when the phone tries to resume music it will skip the current song saying the "Device is not ready". This is problematic because I mostly listen to podcasts and finding my place again is a PITA.
I was going to try another music program - but it sounds like many of you are having success with WMP. Are you making any tweaks to get good handoffs?
What connection order are you using. IE: Pair BT headset, plug adapter, play music???
Thanks in advance.
I have this mount in my Chevy. Instead of using the suction cup or vent clip i attached a metal bracket (as seen in picture) behind the radio bezel. then i attached the mount to the metal bracket. Ran all my wires back thru dash even ran a external antanna wire. rock solid mount with no bouce or vibration.
Work great with aux input on radio.
the pictures you guys are posting look nice but they don't serve my purpose I already have my ipod connected to my car stereo via ipod jack so i can't use and aux input instead because i want to listen to my music from my ipod. I once seen a holster for a phone that had a speaker attached to it thats the type of setup i need so i can still hear the tom tom announcements over the music through a little amplified speaker... DO THEY MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THE MOGUL??????

[Q] Android bluetooth in-call dropout issues

I've been having issues with bluetooth headset dropout during a call. Pairing is never an issue, and the bluetooth connection is solid outside of a call, but during a call the bluetooth may drop out without warning. This means that while I'm talking to someone, there is no audible noise or visual cue that the connection has dropped and has defaulted back to the phone, and thus I'm relegated to a "hello? hello?" query before I check the handset and find out the caller was asking the same thing to my pocket (which also shows the devices are never more than, say 1.5m apart maximum when this happens). As far as the phone is concerned, it's still 'connected' to bluetooth, as indicated in the dialer, and somehow isn't aware the connection has been dropped (or is and isn't showing). I thus need to redirect the audio via the UI either to the handset or speakerphone (away from the bluetooth connection it still think it's on), wait for the reroute to register, then redirect once again to the bluetooth to reestablish the connection. Again, without any audio cues the caller magically appears again on the headset, and we play the whole dropout game all over again. Connection duration seems arbitrary, lasting anywhere from 10s to a tens of minutes (with a 2-3 minutes on average).
This isn't isolated to any particular hardware, as I have had this occur on every one of my phones (Nexus S @ Android 3.x, stock and custom; Meizu MX @ Android 3.x - 4.x AOSP, OEM stock, and custom; HTC One @ Android 4.2.x - 4.3, stock only) and across all the headsets I've tried (Plantronics Discovery 925, LG HBM-585, Motorola H790), with Android being the common denominator. Note, I have used a Plantronics Discovery 655 and the same Plantronics Discovery 925 headset on my Nokia 8800 in the yesteryears, and have NEVER had connection or dropout issues.
Is this a known and/or ongoing issue, or is there already a fix for it? I haven't found anyone else with the exact same symptoms I've got, but seeing as the sample spectrum is so wide I'd be surprised if there weren't.
same issues
i have the same issues with my SGS3 and plantronics bluetooth headset... I'm thinking an app is the problem, but I didn't find it yet....
li Arc said:
I've been having issues with bluetooth headset dropout during a call. Pairing is never an issue, and the bluetooth connection is solid outside of a call, but during a call the bluetooth may drop out without warning. This means that while I'm talking to someone, there is no audible noise or visual cue that the connection has dropped and has defaulted back to the phone, and thus I'm relegated to a "hello? hello?" query before I check the handset and find out the caller was asking the same thing to my pocket (which also shows the devices are never more than, say 1.5m apart maximum when this happens). As far as the phone is concerned, it's still 'connected' to bluetooth, as indicated in the dialer, and somehow isn't aware the connection has been dropped (or is and isn't showing). I thus need to redirect the audio via the UI either to the handset or speakerphone (away from the bluetooth connection it still think it's on), wait for the reroute to register, then redirect once again to the bluetooth to reestablish the connection. Again, without any audio cues the caller magically appears again on the headset, and we play the whole dropout game all over again. Connection duration seems arbitrary, lasting anywhere from 10s to a tens of minutes (with a 2-3 minutes on average).
This isn't isolated to any particular hardware, as I have had this occur on every one of my phones (Nexus S @ Android 3.x, stock and custom; Meizu MX @ Android 3.x - 4.x AOSP, OEM stock, and custom; HTC One @ Android 4.2.x - 4.3, stock only) and across all the headsets I've tried (Plantronics Discovery 925, LG HBM-585, Motorola H790), with Android being the common denominator. Note, I have used a Plantronics Discovery 655 and the same Plantronics Discovery 925 headset on my Nokia 8800 in the yesteryears, and have NEVER had connection or dropout issues.
Is this a known and/or ongoing issue, or is there already a fix for it? I haven't found anyone else with the exact same symptoms I've got, but seeing as the sample spectrum is so wide I'd be surprised if there weren't.
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Have you found solution to this issue ????
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Have you found solution to this issue ????
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It seems to happen less frequently now between my HTC One and the LG headset, perhaps due to Android updates if it indeed is an underlying problem within Android itself, but it still happens from time to time. With such a wide spectrum, however, I certainly expected many more people to have experienced this problem, instead of it being an isolated problem (if it is, I don't see the connection between the hardware).
Would love someone more knowledgeable on this case (or perhaps on Bluetooth connection continuity in general) to chime in.
li Arc

Minix NEO U9-H - Android 6.0 Mini PC | Amlogic S912

Introduction
As a minor upgrade to the NEO-U1, Minix released a newer, and slightly more powerful, Android Mini PC with Native 4K and HDR support. Other changes, except OpenGL 3 support, might not be as impressive though. This is the Minix NEO U9-H.
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Unboxing
Most of you will receive two packages when you order it (unless you buy only the Mini PC), the Minix NEO U9-H Package and the Minix A3 (Air Mouse/Keyboard with Microphone) package.
Just like it's predecessor, the package comes with many accessories: 1x HDMI Cable, 1x Power Supply (5V/3A), 1x WiFi Antenna, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Micro-USB OTG Cable, 1x Remote Control (no Air Mouse), 1x Multi-Language Setup Guide, 1x Product Brochure and the Mini PC (of course).
No Air Mouse/Keyboard is included in the main package, so you may choose to get the complete bundle, or save some money and get the old A2 Lite controller instead of the A3. It is up to you, depending on what you want and how much you can spend.
The NEO A3, compared to the A2 Lite, is almost identical. The only difference i noticed is the built-in microphone together with a slightly different key layout. I do not own a standard A2 (no Lite), but based on the specs, it seems that the A2 was including a Speaker, unlike the A3, so i have to consider this a downgrade. It can still work also on other devices such as standard Desktop PCs or anything else that has a USB Port and supports Mouse/Keyboard input.
Device
Some parts of this paragraph have been merged with my previous NEO U1 review, because the chassis look the same, identical.
Talking about the Design, its Chassis is made of plastic and with a kind of rubberized surface, this is what makes the device look so opaque. Heat Dissipation isn’t impacted though, so don’t worry even if this isn’t made of Metal.
It is as compact as most of all Mini PCs, just 12.8x12.8x2.4 and it is also lightweight enough.
As specified before, the whole surface (except the lower side) is kind of rubberized. On the Upper Side there is just a big brand logo (pretty cool, not printed), nothing else. Absolutely clean.
On the front side there is the IR Receiver (required to use the included Remote Control) and a Blue/Green Power LED.
Power On = Blue | Standby Mode = Green
On the left, there is just 1x Wi-Fi Antenna Connector but the Second Antenna is internal, fixed to the upper side of the chassis. (2x2 RX/TX Wi-Fi Adapter)
On the right, there are 3x Standard USB 2.0 Ports, 1x micro SD Card slot, 1x Kensington Lock, 1x Micro-USB Connector (used for OTG or to connect the device to a PC) and a Power Button.
USB Ports are well designed here, you won’t have any kind of problem even with big USB Sticks. Well Done Minix!
The rear features separate Headphone/Microphone Jacks (like PCs), 1x HDMI port, 1x SPDIF port, 1x LAN 10/100/1000 port, and 1x 5.5mm DC in.
On the lower side there isn’t anything at all, absolutely clean.
Testing
WARNING: Portrait Screenshots are bugged, this is why they may look weird. This bug has been already reported to Minix.
This device runs on Android 6.0.1 (February OTA update), but the Android Security Patches are outdated. I hope you Minix update them as soon as possible. As regards the OS, it is smooth, clean, and features some third-party apps pre-installed (can be uninstalled/disabled though). I always love the Minix Launcher, it is great to use with the Air Mouse (or any Remote), and manages to handle 99% of all Android Settings without issues. All extra new features are here too, such as HDR handling.
Every app work just like on your Smartphone/Tablet, but there is an issue with Portrait Screenshots. I'll alert Minix about this, hoping to get a fix as soon as possible.
If you don’t like Minix Settings, or if you need something that is missing, you can still open the Standard Android Settings.
The new updated XBMC app is included too, with better UI but the same core hidden in the background. A necessary app for all Mini PCs!
The built-in Wi-Fi Adapter is fast, but the Internal LAN adapter is even faster. (as you would expect). LAN on the left, WiFi on the right.
I can now test the LAN performance even better, so here you can see a Local Streaming benchmark, transferring files between the Mini PC and my Desktop PC. Both connected via LAN. This is something that can be impacted by the Router too, and considering that mine is crappy (using my ISP router unfortunately), this result is impressive.
You won't have any issue with any DRM app here, a complete support is offered by Minix. If i am not wrong, the Microsoft's PlayReady support wasn't here with the NEO-U1.
This device is powered by an Amlogic S912 CPU supported by an ARM Mali-820MP GPU. I admit that this isn't the best performing chipset i have ever seen, but what matters here is Hardware Acceleration for Media Purposes and Light Gaming, there isn't any need for super powerful chipsets without optimized HW Acceleration.
Latest available OTA Update is based still based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow, unfortunately this depends on AMLogic's SDK so if they do not release the Nougat version, Minix won't be able to update this Mini PC.​
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Antutu Video Tester, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and Vellamo to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – GPU Performance is as good as you would expect from this GPU, not the best, neither the worst.
AndroBench – eMMC Performance is mediocre, just like on the NEO-U1. An higher Write Speed might have been better.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Antutu Video Tester – This is the only Android Benchmark available for Video Playback, and the result is good but slightly confusing. The NEO-U1 was able to read all videos, this successor has some issues. Software Issue?
Epic Citadel – This Result is impressive, but there is an issue with GPU Texture Rendering. I will alert Minix about this.
GeekBench – Single-Core performance is disappointing, unlike Multi-Core Performance. Again, another confusing result.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – Not the best GPU performance here, but i might have expected something even worse.
PCMark – Nice Results here, nothing to complain about. Notice the high Video Editing score.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
Vellamo – Browser Performance is decent, but CPU Performance isn't as good.
Just like what happened with the NEO-U1, also this Mini PC seems to feature some performance issues, that i think will be fixed soon with an OTA Update, currently what disappointed me is the CPU Performance.
Conclusions
It is always hard to express a final opinion about this kind of devices. They offer such difference experience for each usage, it isn't possible to find a complete fully-optimized Android Mini PC nowadays. Summarizing all results, i might say that CPU Performance needs huge improvements, Video Playback needs some little fixes, and the Android OS needs to be updated to get the latest security patches.
Excluding these issues that can be fixed with a simple OTA update, everything else is just fine. Excellent Build Quality, Decent Hardware Inside and most important, the best OEM Support you can find is here. Minix's OTA Updates are released frequently, based on user feedback, and they also hear us customers in their own forum that i recommend to use. (Minix Forums, just search it on Google)
So, do i recommend it? If you have a NEO-U1 and you don't need HDR or any specific new feature, keep it, otherwise, if you are a new user, choose this one instead.
Official Specs
Rating: 8.5
Packaging and Accessories: 10
Design and Materials: 8
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 8
Software: 8.5
Price: 8 (based on Amazon.it price)
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/CBAIT
Official Website: http://minix.com.hk/en/products/neo-u9-h​
Great review, very comprehensive. Do you think it's possible to root it and install Android 7
Minix is the high end quality
Minix is a good brand which keeps high quality - however it comes with a price :crying:
Blue Tooth volume
My Sony Earbuds have no volume controls and minix u9H volume thru bleue tooth seems to be fixed. ? Is this normal and remote does not go to BT ?
I can't use BT till i get an amp or volume control working ?i put tv and andoid to full and no effect ?
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Tried my super Sony earbuds BT to the u9H android. NO volume control on earbuds but the A3 has no effect either. Too lot to hear. TV and box volume have no effect.
Is this normal or a bug ? Can' t use BT on this. . Earbuds work great on my phone
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Should my A3 volume control work for BT connnection. My sony earbuds have no volume control. Too low to hear but surely have some controls that 'should be' working.

[Mibox MDZ-16-AB] Mediocre speeds on Wifi AC 5ghz after Oreo update.

Can anyone confirm if your having issues with reduced speed when streaming media via your LOCAL network. I was trying to stream 4k HEVC Remux videos via PLEX (direct play) and kodi via NFS wifh file size ranging from 60GB to 70GB. Play back stops after a few seconds and buffers again. Upon check the maximum bandwidth the mibox can get was only around 50-60 Mbps. before updating to Oreo I was getting bandwidth of 280 to 300 Mbps with the mibox in my local network.
While trying to isolate the issue I checked if I can stream properly with my Nvidia Shield on the same router and same access point and I was able to get bandwidth of 300 Mbps via wireless AC. I tried streaming the same video file and it played very well.
I have 1 wireless router and 1 wireless access point both on 5ghz wireless AC. Computers running Plex server and HFS server are connect wired on gigabit connection. the mibox is connected to my router and getting a link of around 400 Mbps.
I ran an iperf test to see if the mibox was really capped at 60Mbps.
The Nexus player and the Shield are getting goods speeds.
Anyone else having the same issue with their mibox after the oreo update?
You can check the pics below like the link speed from my router.
Iperf results from Mibox, Nexus Player and Nvidia Shield 2017
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Yes, my wireless is definitely weaker after Oreo... already did a factory reset and still weaker than before...
IMHO wifi signal is not weaker then MM (at least on 5GHz) but transfer speed is much lower in Oreo.
In my case wifi set at 195Mbits (connected to Netgear R7800) but transfer capped around 50Mbits.
My mi box did update today to Oreo. Without my intervention. Go figure.
diogo.sena said:
Yes, my wireless is definitely weaker after Oreo... already did a factory reset and still weaker than before...
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For some wifi channel 13 was working in MM but not for OREO. Mabe that makes the difference in speed.
Did some more tests yesterday, the problems seems to be only in 5ghz, now I'm using my 2.4ghz wifi, and is much better.
edit: a day later, not really much better, probably just the increased range of 2.4.. but still disconnecting from time to time
diogo.sena said:
Did some more tests yesterday, the problems seems to be only in 5ghz, now I'm using my 2.4ghz wifi, and is much better.
edit: a day later, not really much better, probably just the increased range of 2.4.. but still disconnecting from time to time
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My 2.4Ghz experience is worst.
I used to get 150mbps on my link speed with channel bandwidth at 40Mhz.
Nothing has changed but the maximum link I'm getting is around 60 to 72mbps.
And when I try to transfer files locally from server to mibox I'm only getting around 18mbps to 20mbps
Power Save mode
Hi! Check power save mode for all boxes, please!
Menu: System Log - Wireless Log, column PSM.
Thank you!

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