can anyone tell me if this is the original 27 watt charger bundle? - Xiaomi Mi 9 Accessories

As the title says I just like to know if this is in fact an original xiaomi 27 wat charger and wireless charger? Any help is greatly appreciated
69,13 zł 51%OFF | 27W Plug Original Xiaomi Wireless Charger 20W Max 15V Apply to Xiaomi Mi9 MiX 2S Mix 3 Qi EPP10W For iPhone XS XR XS MAX
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/lF4IySG

andrew2401 said:
As the title says I just like to know if this is in fact an original xiaomi 27 wat charger and wireless charger? Any help is greatly appreciated
69,13 zł 51%OFF | 27W Plug Original Xiaomi Wireless Charger 20W Max 15V Apply to Xiaomi Mi9 MiX 2S Mix 3 Qi EPP10W For iPhone XS XR XS MAX
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/lF4IySG
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97,44 zł 31%OFF | 27W Plug Original Xiaomi Wireless Charger 20W Max 15V Apply to Xiaomi Mi9 MiX 2S Mix 3 Qi EPP10W For iPhone XS XR XS MAX
https://aliexpress.com/e/I7vuvgy

I've been looking for one for myself, but what I can tell from what I know of Aliexpress, if it's too cheap, it's probably not original.
Just the sum of the 27w charger (cheapest guaranteed original I've seen goes for 10€), plus the wireless 20w charger, which alone goes around for 20€ for a original one, seems like a risky buy. And I'm not even adding the cost of the cable, as marginal as it can be.

I have fake one from Aliexpress, and just received genuine 27w charger, in retail box from Fasttech.

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Dash charge 5V 4A from OP to charge MI9

Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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Thanks
I just tested, and it charges slower with OP dash charge
I have bought the wireless 20w pad charge , and it charges 1% per 40 sec, the pad plugged with the stock xiaomi charger ( who is 18w )
I would like to try a 27W, have you got a link for a good one ?
Have just tried my old OnePlus dash charger and it's the same as a standard normal non quick charge charger, not as fast as the included 18w charger
Anyone tried the oneplus dash charger with the 20w wireless charging pad? Would it throttle the charging speed?
Anyone tried to put diesel into petrol car? Dash charger and QC is whole different charging concept. Dash charger will work like regular charger(max. [email protected]) on every device except Dash equipped devices.
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
orawnnd said:
OnePlus Dash Charge : 20W
Xiaomi Mi 9 Boxed charger : 18W
Xiaomi Mi 9 supports QC 4+: 27W
So the charger you get in the box is slightly slower, but you can buy a QC4+ charger for ~25-50€ with 27W.
You could also buy a 20W Qi charger, but if have concerns about damaging your battery this should be your last option imo.
You can charge the Mi9 with the OP Dash Charger and it won't damage your phones. I'm not sure if it actually charges with 20W tho. I also switched from the Oneplus 3 to the Mi9 and when i plug in my dash charger it says "fast charging", but i wouldn't say it is faster then the boxed charger.
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I believe it's not that simple, OnePlus Dash Charge supports 20W charging, BUT that's 5V 4A.
On the other hand, I believe Mi 9 accept max 2A current, so, if you use original OnePlus Dash Charge, it only charges Mi 9 at max 5V 2A = 10W, much slower than use a standard 18W QC 2.0.....
zachwzx said:
I am not sure why you're being sarcastic.
If you haven't seen a dash charger, I suggest you go take a look. Even if it works like a regular charger (and I want it to be), its output is 5V/4A.
So my question is whether its output can power the xiaomi 20w wireless pad without throttle. I.e. Full charging capability of the wireless pad.
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Actually I have 4 Dash Chargers. There are tons of articles, topics here on XDA explaining how Dash Charging works a why it's not working on QC devices at 4Amps. For example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/accessories/dash-charge-protocol-analysis-t3431917
https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge-differences/
Long story short, it delivers 4A only for Dash enabled devices, with Dash cable. To maitain compatiblity with USB standard it can work also as regular 5V/2A charger.
BTW Xiaomi Wirless Pad draw 27W to deliver 20W. Look at the specs, it requires 20V/1,35A input. And you are asking if 5V/4A are enough.
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Quick question : is my dash charge charger from my ex One plus 3 will do the job for my xiaomi mi9 ?
It is like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-tabl...rge+oneplus+3&qid=1558015037&s=gateway&sr=8-5
It was extremely fast for the one plus, I wonder if I could damage the battery using it on my MI9
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I recomend you to install aida64 on playstore , go to battery and plug the phone to the chargers.
It will say how much energy is going into the phone.
Try it with both chargers

Alternative 30W Chargers?

Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?
Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More
Does any USB PD charger work at the full 30W (provided it can give the right juice)
I believe so. how many volts is it charging at to get that 30 watts? 3amps at 10 volts?
I am not sure if my pixelbook charger is charging at the maximum 30 watts
cypherflowgamingnation said:
Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More
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What is the model name?
cypherflowgamingnation said:
Search this on Amazon. Works great for about $35!
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger, PowerPort Atom III Slim Compact Type-C Charger for iPhone 11/11 Pro / 11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Max, Galaxy, Pixel, MacBook and More
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Did you test it?
I tried a Baseus 45W Charger with PD and it couldn't enable Hypercharging.
bluegizmo83 said:
Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?
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Honestly, I think only the note 10+ 45w charger can support the hypercharge because the 30w charger is 10v 3a at peak. Soooo most chargers with PD 3.0 scales 5v 3a 9v 3a 12 3a 15v 3a 20v 2a. Note 10+ 45w peaks at 10v 4.5a so most likely that's the only charger you can buy as a alternative.
JazonX said:
Did you test it?
I tried a Baseus 45W Charger with PD and it couldn't enable Hypercharging.
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How do I test hypercharging?
Anyone from india tried the 30w charger?
Rog 2 has just been released officially in india as well. Went out of stock in 10minutes.
Can anyone send me a photo of their phone while HyperCharging with the 30W charger? Like the battery icon and the lock screen?
When I plug in with a crappy charger, you just get the usual lightning bolt on the battery icon. If you plug in to a standard fast charger, you get a Lightning Bolt with a "+" above it. And when you charge with a USB PD charger (I'm using an Anker) it has two "+" above it like "++", it doesn't say "HyperCharge" or whatever on lock screen though, unlike OnePlus which says "Warp Charging" on the lock screen
I can't find any other charger that does the 10v 3amp that the asus one does. But I think with my quick charge 4 charger, its charging at 27 watts = 9v 3amps
I don't have a charger that does 10 volts though.
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Can anyone send me a photo of their phone while HyperCharging with the 30W charger? Like the battery icon and the lock screen?
When I plug in with a crappy charger, you just get the usual lightning bolt on the battery icon. If you plug in to a standard fast charger, you get a Lightning Bolt with a "+" above it. And when you charge with a USB PD charger (I'm using an Anker) it has two "+" above it like "++", it doesn't say "HyperCharge" or whatever on lock screen though, unlike OnePlus which says "Warp Charging" on the lock screen
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Yes, if you have proprietary 30W ROG charger you will see "Hypercharge" text above fingerprint sensor in lockscreen state and additional thunderbolt sign next to battery icon in status bar... No more "+" or "++".
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bluegizmo83 said:
Any recommendations for an alternative 30W wall charger (confirmed working with the Rog Phone 2) that's cheaper than the $50 official charger?
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I think you wont find any 3rd party charger that support asus hypercharge, at least for now... I bought 45w BASEUS charger that support QC 4 and PD 3 but it didnt work... I bought again 2 different C to C cable but still didnt work either.. And i end up buying the 30w ROG charger, and with any C to C cable i got hypercharge working.... Fyi, the phone will only charged at 25watt wheres th 5watt remain will be used to power up attached accessories like aero fan cooler.
How long charging your Baseus ?
Any luck on finding a Hypercharge Charger yet?
Guys for 3 watts, it's totally not worth it. 27 watts is more than enough. The difference would be minimal if not noticeable. Save your money and don't fall for the marketing of "Hypercharge" numbers don't lie.
If you have the Asus 30 Watt charger, great.
If you don't, grab any other charger that can do 27 watts or more if the price is right.
I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Boo...ords=belkin+qc4+charger&qid=1573671104&sr=8-3
I can confirm no hyper charging with this one
Only gets up to 14.9W and "++"
the 45 watt pixelbook charger is charging at 9v 2amp only= 18 watts which is QC 2.0 speeds
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Thugsin313 said:
I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76
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That looks like a quick charge 3.0 charger.
QC3 only goes up to 18 watts
Tried another charger
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B079FW6B7G/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Got up to 15.4W this time but still no hyper charging, just "++". The 18W Asus is still the best I got with over 16W output. I'm not giving up though.
Testing another tomorrow lol
Thugsin313 said:
I have ordered the below linked charger and cable from AliExpress, will share the charging results once i receive them...
Currently i am using the 40w charger that came with my huawei p30 pro, but apparently it charges the ROG at 18w max....
SAR 15.53 55%OFF | KUULAA Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 36W USB Charger PD 3.0 Supercharge Fast Charging Phone Charger For Xiaomi Mi 9 8 iPhone X XR XS Max
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qVyQ5BEY
SAR 3.81 72%OFF | KUULAA USB Type C to USB C Cable For Xiaomi Mi 8 9 60W PD QC 4.0 USBC Fast Charge USB-C For Macbook Samsung Galaxy S10 S9 Type-C
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/d4o07x76
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Please let me know how the chargers performs, ty!

Original mi 9 mdy-10-el 27w wall charger

Were i can by the original MI 9 MDY-10-EL 27W wall charger? Not EH, it's USA, Chinese plug adapter, with EU plug connector (Web, online shop). I don't need the wireless charger 20W, i bought it already. Mi France sell both for 50€, it's expensive. I found another one at Aliexpress, 18 USD, but I don't trust the seller, he has only 3 buyers and there is no aftersale expressions. On the other side, other products from this seller are poorly rated.
Bought 2 of those, can confirm 100% original at https://www.gearbest.com/chargers---power-adapters/pp_009422733270.html?wid=1433363
omgomg said:
Bought 2 of those, can confirm 100% original at https://www.gearbest.com/chargers---power-adapters/pp_009422733270.html?wid=1433363
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I bought a charger from there too, I tried 2 adapters (US to EU) and 2 cables (original Xiaomi cable and Baseus 5A cable), but I never get over 3300 mA. So which cable do you use? and which plug adapter?
And do you see Charging Turbo while charging? Because I don't. I'm running Xiaomi.eu ROM as well.
I have screens posted on another thread in this subsection charging it at over 4800mah if you don't want to believe me. Use the search function.
EDIT: Yes, turbo charging is instant, also am using xiaomi.eu
omgomg said:
I have screens posted on another thread in this subsection charging it at over 4800mah if you don't want to believe me. Use the search function.
EDIT: Yes, turbo charging is instant, also am using xiaomi.eu
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Which app didi you use to measure it?
I get something around 3800 ma/h with the official one I bought at a Xiaomi store here in Shanghai.
I use ampere and accu battery for measuring.
JetzNicht said:
Which app didi you use to measure it?
I get something around 3800 ma/h with the official one I bought at a Xiaomi store here in Shanghai.
I use ampere and accu battery for measuring.
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Ampere Pro. By the way I use the official cable that came with the phone.
Also, keep in mind the charging amps will fluctuate during the whole process, as in ANY lithium battery in the world. To better have an idea, monitor the charging when the phone is around 30%~40% charged.
The guys asks for the EL version, specifically said he does not want the EH version, but what do you all do ? Recommend the EH version, of course.
Great help you are.
I can't find the EL version anywhere except bundled with the 20W charging pad. I don't understand why it is so hard to find
Thank you all. I didn't find it. I bought the original EH version from Gearbest, with gocomma EU plug adapter. It shows charge turbo.
I have a turbo showing adapter which has that distinctive "l" icon, but it never goes up around 2300-2400 amps. I'm assuming it's fake. So just getting turbo sign or a case without printing errors doesn't necessarily mean that the brick you got is genuine.
Nightflowers said:
I can't find the EL version anywhere except bundled with the 20W charging pad. I don't understand why it is so hard to find
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Well, I did not find it even like that. I only found some pictures of it on here, from a French guy who had it bundled with his Mi 9, and on some Russian forum.
I don't get it why Xiaomi does not sell it separately.
But it won't matter when the 40W version arrives for the Mi 9 Pro.
mdy-10-el is finally available on AliExpress and price is great 8-12 eur
roofovec said:
mdy-10-el is finally available on AliExpress and price is great 8-12 eur
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Right, here's a link : https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4000288396055.html
Original charger in the box is quick charge 3.0. and it's 18w if i am not wrong.
Mi9 can be charged up to 27w with quick charge 4.0+.
Correct me if i ma wrong
4Freedom said:
Original charger in the box is quick charge 3.0. and it's 18w if i am not wrong.
Mi9 can be charged up to 27w with quick charge 4.0+.
Correct me if i ma wrong
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I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Xiaomi "Turbo Charge" 27W only works with the Xiaomi 27W adapter which is NOT QC4 (still QC3, with proprietary solution for 27W delivery)
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Nightflowers said:
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Xiaomi "Turbo Charge" 27W only works with the Xiaomi 27W adapter which is NOT QC4 (still QC3, with proprietary solution for 27W delivery)
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Turbo Charge 27W work also with Baseus Wall Charger http://https://sklep.telforceone.pl/en-gb/product/2223356/2237051/baseus-wall-charger-pps-qc-usb-pd-45w-white-with-display
or Baseus PPS car charger. Max power is 27W. When i use a original cable and conect to USB-A port in charger my phone display "Charge Turbo" so its QC 3.0 dual channel charging.
When i use USB-C to USB-C cable and PD socket (QC 4.0+) charging similar speed (usually 10V, 2,7A) phone display only fast charging. I test also POCOPHONE F1 and Charge Turbo displays only when i use PD socket.
Anyone know where I can get the UK variant from? I hate using those nasty adapter plugs...
Hi, it's me again. I found and bought MDY-10-EL 27W wall charger, from Aliexpress. The cable is thinner than the original one, but never mind. The charger shows charge turbo while charging and it's ok. But, I can't connect this charger with the original 20W wireless charger! I tried with the sellers cable and the original cable, nothing! When i put the Mi 9, even without transparent case, on the wireless charger, it can be seen nothing!? There is no signs of charging? Besides, with the other 27W fast charger US plug (MDY-10-EH), i have no problems. Wireless charging is working. What can i do with this charger MDY-10-EL, to make it working with 20W wireless charger?
Just one notice. The wireless 20W charger is functional with the original Mi 9 18W charger. The phone can be charged. It's not fast charging, but it's charging! On the contrary, the fast 27W charger is not working with the wireless charger!?

Redmi Note 8 - 18w charger

I got 5v 2a charger (10w) with my phone. I see that it supports 18w. Does it mean that it supports Qualcomm quick charge 3.0? Did you guys got normal charger or fast one?
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In my China model, I got the 18W Quick Charge 3 charger. I might've seen somewhere which says it supports QC4 but it's still 18W
With my Indian model, 18W fast charger is provided which outputs : 5v=3A/9V=2A/12V=1.5A
I also got 10w charger. It does't support 18w, qc3 charging so you have to separately buy 18w qc3 charger.
I have the global version and I only got the 10W charger
Where can u see that , got a MDY-10-EF with mine.
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INFIN1TY- said:
Where can u see that , got a MDY-10-EF with mine.
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See "output", it's written on your charger
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Starlord said:
I got 5v 2a charger (10w) with my phone. I see that it supports 18w. Does it mean that it supports Qualcomm quick charge 3.0? Did you guys got normal charger or fast one?
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It supports 18w fast charger but Xiaomi provided the 18w charger in the box only on Indian varient, but you can always buy the 18w charger online & use that with your phone...
Which 18w charger?
Which 18w charger is recommended? I have global version and 18w charger was not in box.
wellwisher_k said:
Which 18w charger is recommended? I have global version and 18w charger was not in box.
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Anyone could suggest the link for purchase of 18W charger
Newest compatible 18W QC 3.0 Charger models are:
MDY-10-EF (EU)
MDY-10-EC (US)
5V-3A/9V-2A/12V-1.5A
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000450557446.html
Hi guys, I use an original Xiaomi 30w I do not know if it is recommended, it is very fast it takes between 60/70 min 10/100%
I would just say that unless you really need the faster charge, it's probably better for the battery to charge it slower. General suggestion for li-ion batteries though I suppose you can't be sure for this particular case. Maybe 1.8x higher current has no significant effect on battery life.
Hello what is the UK version of the MDY-10-EF charger called ?
Thanks for the link. It's around 6$ in my country locally.
quik charger
hello everyone. can i charge my note8 with a charger.
5v-8v 3a / 8v-9v 2.7a /9v-12v 2a. thank you
is it redmi note 8 supports qc 4.0?
Wysłane z mojego Redmi Note 8T przy użyciu Tapatalka
i wonder if 18W charger is good enough for long lige of the battery life.
i am very skeptical about charging the phone with 18W battery charger,
i am afraid that this charger could harm the life of the battery, so i more in the side that says, i will stay with the 10W typical charger.
Does anybody agree with that?
dslfan said:
i am very skeptical about charging the phone with 18W battery charger,
i am afraid that this charger could harm the life of the battery, so i more in the side that says, i will stay with the 10W typical charger.
Does anybody agree with that?
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Agree.
18W charger only make the battery getting more heat, which is bad for battery.
I only use 18W charger if I'm in a rush.
Now I'm thinking to get myself a Blackshark funcooler and see if it able to reduce battery temperature while on fast charging.

Question What charger?

So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
sshariff said:
So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
oxfordmark said:
Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
Also is anyone else finding there phone really hot when charging?
oxfordmark said:
So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
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Even if you plug your 18W charger into your phone it will say charging rapidly. It doesn't mean its charging at the full 30W capacity!
Any USB c charger will eventually charge your phone.
pemz82 said:
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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That should do as it has the PD 3.0 standard with PPS. A word of note that you will see 30W chargers just with PD 3.0 but no PPS. These will charge slower than those with PPS but should still be more rapid than the previous gen 18W fast charger.
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
mitchst2 said:
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
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Same, 2 for £58.48
oxfordmark said:
Same, 2 for £58.48
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Got mine before they removed the 25% discount
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
I have had my eye on that spigen charger for a while now. I am actually a big fan of spigen. I have had every pixel and I have used a spigen case for each one.
I actually don't like using those high amp chargers. I only use them when i am in a pinch like i forgot to charge my phone and i gotta go. I use a chargie with a 1amp usb port on my power strip. And i only charge to 80 percent. Again if i am in a pinch or if i know i will be gone from a charger for more than 10 hours i will charge to 100 but that rarely happens. My pixel 4xl used to last all day plus and I had it for 2 years and when i traded it in the battery was still at 98 percent health.
I have a question though since we are talking about chargers. I have a lenovo chromebook that uses a 45w usb c charger. can i use that on my pixel 6? I have the base model 6 not the pro. Or will that damage it? I would assume that it would be ok but just want a second opinion.
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DoobyDroid said:
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
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On to Amazon now!
If i ordered today i would be paying around £6 less for two!
This charger oozes quality. It is slightly smaller than the pixel 5 18w charger, comes with a higher quality braided cable, in all much better value than the Google 30w charger.
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
If you're not testing your charger with a usb C meter of some sort, you're almost certainly not getting 30W.
These pixels appear to have an apple style restriction on chargers. Something many people are missing is that not all PPS chargers are created equally. Google specifies 21v whereas most of the pps chargers on the market top out at 11v.
I've tried 3 different 65W 11v PPS chargers and they all top out at 18-20W.
I then specifically bought a 21v capable charger and still it tops out at 18-20W.
I'm extremely disappointed Google decided to take this anti consumer approach. The chargers I have tried are by all means technologically superior to Google's charger in every way and yet this arbitrary restriction means I'm forced to buy Google's if I want 30W charging.
I can include links/photos/videos if anyone is curious.
mitchst2 said:
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
mitchst2 said:
The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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Just read your previous post now.
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"Up to 45W(5.0V=3.0A, 9.0V=3.0A, 15.0V=3.0A, 20.0V=2.25A, 3.3V-11.0V=3.5A, 3.3V-16.0V=3.0A)"
^ Taken from the amazon page for the Spigen charger.
No support for 21V so no 30W fast charging. Even if it did support 21V, I doubt it would go over 18-20W, based on my findings.
Of course it's ridiculous because even with "only" 20V, the charger can push 2.25A which is more than enough for 30W charging. I don't understand the point of PPS if the voltage/current combinations are not dynamic. The implementation of PPS so far seems to make a mockery of the intended purpose of the standard.

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