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Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
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Not maasively fussed on camera performance tbh.
Other points are valid. Although not 100% on build quality just yet. The left side of my rear case is ever so slightly raised off the front and it's bothering me.
It's a lonnnnng trip back to China for a replacement!
Here's a clip of the Mi5 running Antutu 6 Vs my Galaxy S7 Edge and Redmi Note 3 Pro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-UhVrlMCDQ
It gets close to 140,000 points which is very decent.
Hey, what kernel version does the mi5 use eg 3.10, 3.16, 3.18?
Thanks
I've been hugely disappointed with the Mi5. I got it the day after release and it just hasn't felt right. I came from a Mi Note, which has probably been the best phone I've ever had. Perfect size in my opinion and everything works perfect.
The Mi5 has a strange size and the even more curved/rounded back just doesn't feel good in the hand. It's far too curved. It should have been more like the Mi Note. I don't feel comfortable holding it without a grippier case.
Despite the Mi Note having a Snapdragon 801, the SD 820, in my opinion doesn't offer a huge difference in speed and normal everyday tasks like browsing, reading news, listening to music and watching videos and the odd game.
The finger print sensor is ok, but I think the round sensor on the Redmi Note 3 is superior. It looks ugly on the Mi5 I think.
The camera is speedy, yes. But so was the Mi Note camera. The quality is not noticeable in my eyes. And the 4 axis OIS is just a big gimmick.
Haven't been this disappointed with a phone since I last used an iPhone haha.
Im always using a silicone case with my phones.. GPS is fast i cant complain here.
The camera is very good in Daylight, bad at dark places.. i tried to adjust with manual settings but so far not really successful.
Samsung and LG has longer experiences in building Cameras or Mobile Phones, so don`t expect too much in Dark places.
But one thing i like, is the price-value in Xiaomi devices which is good.
Xiaomi mi5 is it new make?
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
Hendrickson said:
Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
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4k Video samples:
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Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
tango007 said:
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
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Thanks for good description!
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
Termynat0r said:
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
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The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
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The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
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Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
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Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
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I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
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I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
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Thanks skoobee. If you can post a couple of low light shots of the two devices, I'll be very grateful.
Apparently gsmarena, unlike every other reviewer, has found a very mature camera performance.
I will try and do that in the next day or two. I have to say I am extremely impressed with the mi5. I was a little worried about signal strength in my house as on the s6 is very very poor and I have to use Wi-Fi calling. With the mi5 I can't use Wi-Fi calling but I don't need to. The signal is about twice that of the s6 but the clarity is so much better is unbelievable (even better than s6 on Wi-Fi calling)
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Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
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seems good quality video!
I've had no issues at all with 4K video, smooth and jitter free...
And my girlfriend who has been using an S6 for over a year immediately found the Mi 5 camera far superior.
1080p display.... a bit disappointing.,...
I don't see 1080p as a negative. The DPI is 400+, is probably higher than the human eye can see anyway, and higher PPI is sacrificed for better battery life. I find it a bit PPI and mpixel chased a bit strange, especially when our computer monitor 24"+ is typically 1080p. I prefer thing such as quick charge 3.0 and usb c type as the most important things. Coming from HTC - king of bloatware that can't be removed without root, I am looking forward to sleek a Xiaomi
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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mario24601 said:
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
iMaterial said:
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
iMaterial said:
The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
EvilMegaDroid said:
So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
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Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
Guntas ROMANA said:
Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
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Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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No bro nothing at all
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
Reborn.N said:
Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
EvilMegaDroid said:
Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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No not often but it can happen. It's not really a deal breaker but the S8 I would say is the better phone because it's made by a better company, has a better screen (though smaller than the Poco) better 3rd party support. Yes the SOC is older than the SD845 bit all depends on what you want from a phone. I brought the Poco mainly because it has a headphone jack, a card slot and was in the price bracket of what I could afford and didn't want to buy a second hand phone
I replaced my s8 for the poco,the camera is decent if you use Gcam but of course is worse than the s8.
The battery life and the modding possibility are much better but you should decide what are you looking for in a phone before buying it.
The Samsung water resistance, wireless charging, amoled and NFC are hard to turn down, but a new F1 still wins in my book - bigger battery, better SoC, plus it's new
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes).
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
mecoromeo said:
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes). I just want to take a few good pictures to show my workflow and be done with it while using a flagship phone performance.
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
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To tell the truth I might take 10-15 pic a year so yeah not much of a camera guy. The reason I ask about the camera is because I'm a programmer and need some pics of my workflow so I though might as well take them with my new phone.
I will go for this only for the reason from where I am people here sell refurbished phones without saying it. A refurbished S8 (it might be) is worthless against a new phone. Also Xiomi is kind of known for custom roms.
ps: to the one saying S8 has better community. From what I could tell on xda the s8 didn't have much compared to xiomi phones ( I compared it to my note 4)
I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
melodystyle2003 said:
I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
Nope I would sell this for a s8 because it lacks so many features
Bad eis
No ois
No 60 fps in any mode
It's screen doesn't support real hdr its just plastic looking with very innaccurate colors.
The only purpose in upgrading would be the processor.
I think the only differences in this phone is that
The official dev community and the xda community are very active like posts each day.
But if you really want a phone for pubg this phone can handle it at hdr 60 fps 720p mode. It's viewing angles and lighting are about 75% of what you would get with an oled panel.
EvilMegaDroid said:
Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
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For me, I haven't experienced any lags. I'm on pie now btw. My only issue is for some reason they removed the system option to hide the notch(not really an issue since I use nacho notch a 3rd party app to remove notch). Everything works fine for me. I can run simultaneous programs with no lags, I can play heavy games with no stutters and the rom community is amazing.
As for your camera usage, it takes clear pictures and is sufficient enough (I use it sparingly since I'm not a picture buff). I use it sometimes for document scanning and it's clear enough to show the letters in the docs. For selfie and family pics, it's nice and adequate, though you shouldn't compare it to phones who specifically target photo buffs since the main point of poco is SD845 and I can say it's fast and smooth. Though as mentioned photog is good and adequate to take clear photos for normal use
Some people say there are issues but I haven't experienced any of them at all. No touch lag, no screen bleed and the Poco team really has good aftersales since they respond and really converse with their consumers (see xiaomi forum app about latest updates with Poco and you will see they do acknowledge most of the issues, unlike some manufacturers). I'd say for the price it is a snatch and I do hope they launch more of these "flagship killers"
Almsot forgot, there is one more thing you should be wary of, the notifications. I think you already know this but notifications do not stay in the status bar, so if I were you, use this mod. It moves the clock up a bit sk that the notifications will stay below it:
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notch-notification-mod/?codename=beryllium
And for more info
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notification-icons-for-notch-phones/
I would always recommend buying anything other than Samsung but as a Poco user my advice is, skip both and buy Oneplus 6, if you can find it somewhere affordable
Both are available at approx 25000 INR (335 US$). I am planning to buy either of the above in a day or two. Hoping to keep the device for 2-3 years.
I would be using it for recording videos (YouTube), occasional gaming, Watching Netflix & youtube.
I am leaning towards Reno 10x, only thing missing is the headphone jack. I keep hearing negative reviews about Color OS.
Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good ips display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better
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Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good iOS display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better.
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10x eats the Zen for breakfast.
OS is excellent as it is close to Android stock. Camera is solid and battery life is at least 60 hours through normal use.
3.5 headphone jack better? Ha ha. No. The USB-C headphones supplied with the phone are amazing and provide digital output whereas 3.5 jacks are analogue. I use a USB-C adapter to connect to the car stereo and it's perfect (both provide lossless audio quality anyway but USB-C is clearer).
What is a "good iOS display"? It's not an iPhone!!
Thanks for that making fun - gboard auto corrected my ips with ios (didnt review what i typed). Also your view on audio being clearly because its type c is erm ok...
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Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good ips display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better
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It’s 6gb/64gb variant, I have used my friend’s 6z and was impressed with the camera & Software too.
Thank you for the input.
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Thanks for that making fun - gboard auto corrected my ips with ios (didnt review what i typed). Also your view on audio being clearly because its type c is erm ok...
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Lol...no problem. It was a little bit confusing!
About audio...it's just my opinion and experience based on 40 years of listening to music. I find the USB-C is better, but then it could be a matter of personal taste. I was very unsure about not having a 3.5mm audio jack, but really happy with what I have. I never think about it. Maybe it's all part of just moving with the times?
i love my 10x zoom, color os 7 isn't bad at all its definitely came a long way. Just make sure its the global model and you'll be happy
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i love my 10x zoom, color os 7 isn't bad at all its definitely came a long way. Just make sure its the global model and you'll be happy
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Good to know about the ColorOS. The only variant on sale right now is 6gb/128gb. Is 8gb/256gb the global model?
nikhil_619 said:
Both are available at approx 25000 INR (335 US$). I am planning to buy either of the above in a day or two. Hoping to keep the device for 2-3 years.
I would be using it for recording videos (YouTube), occasional gaming, Watching Netflix & youtube.
I am leaning towards Reno 10x, only thing missing is the headphone jack. I keep hearing negative reviews about Color OS.
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Unless u want better selfie cameras or Stock android, Oppo Reno 10x is better.
Also ur getting double storage for same price.
6z is only available in 64gb variant in India as of right now. all other are out of stock.
Instead of 6z , go for realme x2 pro, which will also be available in the same price range in sale.
I wouldn't recommend Oppo device mainly cuz of ****ty ota support. Choose OnePlus
nikhil_619 said:
Good to know about the ColorOS. The only variant on sale right now is 6gb/128gb. Is 8gb/256gb the global model?
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I'm in UK and have 8/256 GB model
Dooomlord said:
Unless u want better selfie cameras or Stock android, Oppo Reno 10x is better.
Also ur getting double storage for same price.
6z is only available in 64gb variant in India as of right now. all other are out of stock.
Instead of 6z , go for realme x2 pro, which will also be available in the same price range in sale.
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X2 Pro is a good option, though 3000 inr costlier but a good option. Thank You. ?
klisza1993 said:
I wouldn't recommend Oppo device mainly cuz of ****ty ota support. Choose OnePlus
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It costs 100$ more (one plus 7). Will have to extend my budget.
Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 Pro 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
AveyBD said:
Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
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Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
makiothekid said:
Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
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Do you play heavy games ???
Blezi said:
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
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I will not play heavy games too much. May be PUBG for one hour in Smooth Extreme . Will it make the phone heated ?
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no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
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Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
AveyBD said:
Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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Do you play heavy games ???
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I play Arena of valor at max setting 122hz, watch youtube for hours.
Any Indian website that resells the Mi 11X Pro? I've already tried Big Brother Google, no positive results...
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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spot on, don't know why xiaomi has been going in this direction but i honestly can't find an optimal choice to upgrade from my K20 pro