Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 Pro 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
AveyBD said:
Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
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Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
makiothekid said:
Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
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Do you play heavy games ???
Blezi said:
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
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I will not play heavy games too much. May be PUBG for one hour in Smooth Extreme . Will it make the phone heated ?
marshharsha said:
no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
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Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
AveyBD said:
Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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Do you play heavy games ???
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I play Arena of valor at max setting 122hz, watch youtube for hours.
Any Indian website that resells the Mi 11X Pro? I've already tried Big Brother Google, no positive results...
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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spot on, don't know why xiaomi has been going in this direction but i honestly can't find an optimal choice to upgrade from my K20 pro
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Hi. Anyone coming from F1? Care to share your experience?
The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
@HockeyLan
Thanks a lot for the input. I'm getting married and tight on budget lol that's why I can't consider Mi9tpro
I went from F1 to 9T as well.
Pros:
- better display that is easier to see in direct sunlight
- better build, less edges
- takes better pictures, videos too
- can do AOD if you prefer that
- easier to unlock imo with the on-screen fingerprint
Cons:
- worse speaker, it's louder but has less low frequency volume
- no notification LED, the one up top is useless tbh
- the xiaomi.eu rom I'm using is laggy at times, but this is solely a software issue
A wash:
- performance is the same, i ran tests with both next to eachother, as long as the storage isn't used too much, as the Poco has a faster storage
- battery life is similar for me, I was using different OS' so I can't really say
Overall I would say this is definitely an upgrade for the right price.
@In_a_state
Thanks a lot for the info. Helps me alot.
Do you use chrome? If so does the phone get warm or hot?
I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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Thanks. I'm pretty oversensitive when it comes to phone heating up so you made my choice a lot easier.
I usually use the phone caseless as I'm mostly indoors person.
I switched From PocoPhone F1 to Mi 9T Global.
I had Poco, which my wife still uses, and now I have Mi9t.
Build: Mi9t feels nicer, but it also heavier, I would say Poco is a lot easier to handle.
Performance: pretty much the same, won't notice any difference.
Battery life: the same, had some problems on Mi9t depending on the Miui version, but both around 9/10 hrs sot
Screen: Depends, amoled has nice blacks, Lcd has nice whites. Using mi9t's dark mode didn't have much advantage on battery life to be honest. Also it seems I can't completely disable adaptive brightness, while it's set to manual it also increases brightness in direct sunlight, but not every time, so I would call it buggy.
Touch: Mi9t for sure, Poco had problems with it and was never completely fixed
Fingerprint: Poco all the way, in-screen fps are just bad, and I'm not even using it on Mi9t
Camera: Mi9t has better stock camera, but if you like to use Gcam, then Poco all the way. Poco's gcam ports work like a dream, better than any other phone I had, feels like a native camera app.
Conclusion: I would say, no need to upgrade, better wait until a new phone arrives.
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The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
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Agree, Zenfone 6 ticks most of the boxes for a perfect smartphone...
Just migrated from the Poco F1 to this and I don't regret it one bit. The Poco just looks horrendous with that massive notch.
i sold the pocophone and was planned to buy an mi9t pro but got scammed and got a mi9t instead. the whole phone seems better and i love the screen and the build quality but also the pop up camera. amoled is definitely better and battery life on dark mode is great. only one almost unnoticiable downgrade is the cpu and it is only revelant in games ( used to play resident evil 4 on dolphin emulator and snapdragon 845 was faster ) but i haven t played the game for long times. not that much. i don t regret switching, i can only observe there is not an immense activity in development for this phone here on xda.
I too went from Poco to Mi9T and I am generally pleased with the change. However I still have to see if I can sell the Poco on eBay to recoup some of the cost.
The stock Poco was a good phone for me and I prefer the rear finger print sensor. For my use I didn't need great processor power so I didn't notice any difference in performance between the two phones.
Comparing stock cameras then the Mi9T is better. The Mi9T has a notification LED as such but it is on the top and around the pop up selfie camera and you can only see it lit up from looking down on the top of the phone so not very handy. I like the ambient display and it's good to be able to see the time and a notification at a glance. I say notification singular, as it doesn't seem to be able to show any other notifications except for Gmail. I am grateful to have NFC capability again as I find using this with Google Pay is very convenient for me.
If the Poco had an ambient display and NFC I think I couldn't justify the change of phone to myself. At the end of the day a lot depends on what the individual needs his phone to do most of the time.
I went from the Poco
I do not regret my purchase
Nice amoled display. No notch. All notifications in statubar
For me same performance for a mormal use. I'm not a gamer ...
Better stock camera
I just regret the Poco notifications led
Same battery life
Hi
I'm currently using the Zuk Z2 plus and looking for an upgrade as the battery is worn out. Is this phone good if I get it at 15k? How bad are the ghost touches and any fix? Any other issue?
Or should I go for Redmi K20 as K20 pro is out of my budget..
Don't waste your money on any Xaiomi phone, better wait and save more the new phone.
don't buy
don't buy it, even paying 7k is enough for this in 2019, have been using it for 7 months, lot of issues facing, specially signal issue, freezing, battery backup, updating issue, now after updating to september 2019 update facing google cam stuck, don't take it, you can buy K20 at flipkart BB sale or realme 5 pro or XT or X...........
Chup Bc
Most Probably You Are Using Old Batch !
I'm Using It From 1 Year And No Issues At All !
Newer Models Got New Panel !
The First Batch Was Sh*t, But They Could Be Fixed Just By Using Proper Kernel With Proper Driver.
If You Don't Know That, Don't Mislead Annoying!
You can get even more discount by using an axis bank debit credit card and icici credit card, which technically brings the price down to 13.5k. And at this price that's an absolute steak. Nothing comes close. Go for it
I added a poll please vote . I'm still confused and only 5 days left for sale
So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
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So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
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I want good camera and battery(installing GCam and custom ROMs). I have seen Pocos display and it looks great! I don't mind AMOLED display nor do I need MicroSD.
Does Poco have ESim?
wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
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wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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all the best sir
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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With Google Cam you will get great photos out of both phones, sometimes the stock camera outperforms the Gcam. Also MKBHD did a camera blind test with a bunch of high end phones and the Poco F1 got 2nd place. And if you plan on flashing ROMs, you will find great ROMs and Kernels that will give you great battery life.
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy, you don't need post a poll. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.
I am about to buy the 7T Pro and want to ask, if it would make more sense to wait for the 8. Gen. So I want to have just display so no camera in the front Display and i saw leaks with cameras in the display. I don't need wireless charging because I never use it but i am a fan of fast charging. So what's your suggestion?
As soon as I heard rumours that OP8 had punch hole cameras I bought my OP7TPro. Front facing camera is something that I barely use so ruining the display with it is not for me.
The rest of the specs can't say if they will make a great difference like sd855+ vs sd865, 90hz vs 120hz, etc.
This phone charges from 10% to 100% in about 1h without any overheating.
Good luck!
I've been chasing that "unicorn" phone for years. The fact is, if you want the best phone, don't buy any right now. If you're ready to keep a phone for 3 years and are tired of chasing the unicorn, the 7T Pro is a great choice.
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As soon as I heard rumours that OP8 had punch hole cameras I bought my OP7TPro. Front facing camera is something that I barely use so ruining the display with it is not for me.
The rest of the specs can't say if they will make a great difference like sd855+ vs sd865, 90hz vs 120hz, etc.
This phone charges from 10% to 100% in about 1h without any overheating.
Good luck!
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I completely agree. I bought the 7t pro for the same reason
@noobyniklas , I would wait for the OP8 Pro.
I bought my 7t Pro just a month ago, I wouldn't wait. It's a exceptional phone, almost perfect. 13 hours SOT (for me), almost no idle drain. Perfect display without stupid notch, perfect GPS (for me), call quality could be better, very good camera if you use GCam. The only thing that you really need to enjoy this phone is a little bit of brain, it needs a little bit of tinkering before to show it's greatness, as with every phone
Another topic is phone size. If the rumours hold true the OP8Pro will be quite a bit larger than the current OP7TPro, which I already find on the edge to being uncomfortably large. Other than that I agree with the notions above, the 7T Pro is a very nice and capable phone ...
7T Pro to party now on XDA!
Get the pixel wish I did lol ????
I can't do hole punches for the selfie camera. Having the uninterrupted full screen experience is unmatched by nearly every phone out there and is so with it! I stick with my OP3 for ages and it was great, I have no doubt that the 7TPro will be the same! Get the 7tPro!
Just saw the site was updated to the poco f2 what are peoples thoughts?
https://www.poco.net/global/
nah. Wondering when to update and to which phone..
Underwhelming, overpriced phone.
This unnecessary push to 5G (Which is about two years away from being properly available) is causing the prices of phones to skyrocket.
And speaking of performance, Smartphone gaming hasn't dramatically changed over the past two years. There are basically two games the world is playing and they both work just fine on the 845 or the newer 768G.
This makes the 865 in the Poco F2 a completely pointless upgrade and a really expensive component that marks up the price to insanity. Poco took away the Memory Card slot and opted to stay with a 60hz display which is just plain stupid. And I'm speaking of the screen Hz not in the aspects of gaming but in the aspects of basic UI where MOST PEOPLE use their phone. Scrolling and watching videos.
Where they could have truly excelled was in the department of cameras. I'm not talking unnecessarily large figures like 108 or 64 or 48MP. Megapixel numbers on such a tiny sensor are merely a marketing gimmick. Rebranding the K30 Pro and making it even worse by removing the IPXX rating (at least official certification) just shows that Poco has completely forgotten what they represent.
They could have spent a lot in R&D and thrown in a lower Megapixel sensor but with significantly better processing. The aging iPhone 11 still defeats all these new cameras with their ridiculous Megapixel claims.
The only good thing they've done is.
1: IR Blaster
2: Headphone jack.
3: Large battery.
I'm sticking to my current Poco F1.
It's reliable, cheap, sturdy. I still get 9 Hours SOT even after almost two years of battery use. I'll probably change the battery and charging port in the next six months just to keep this baby running happily for at least two more years.
It also has FHD AMOLED screen without cutouts, pop-up front camera, 128 GB internal storage in base model, NFC.
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
Umb0 said:
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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I saw you reposted your question somewhere else, so I'm reposting mine answer too
Well, mate. Simple answer to your question would be: probably yes. I'll explain this "probably" bit later
At first, I've been using stock MIUI ROM only for one week. I've instantly applied for unlocking bootloader in order to flash Xiaomi.eu, which is a debloated version of MIUI with some improvements. I think it improves an overall performance a little bit. There are some other custom ROMs available for tucana, based on AOSP, but I prefer to stay with MIUI at the moment.
1) Camera: It's really good, but it could be even better with better SoC In my opinion, it is bit too weak at least for the huge main lens. Sometimes it lags, but it's not absolutely bad though. The pics quality is really good. Especially huge main lens gives bright, clear photos, it shines most in the night/low light scenarios. Even better with GCam. OIS is an excellent addon. Tele lenses are good enough, wide angle as well. Macro lens is only 2mpx and it is useful for me only when I need to take a photo of a very close object (1-2 cm), but quality is rather poor. But surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
Just one thing: main lens isn't very good for macro shots. Because of its size, it can blur edges of the objects. But for landscapes and people it's just perfect.
There is a PRO mode with EV correction, exposure time, focus and white balance manual sliders. You can get additional features like long exposure, cloninig and stickers with a Magisk module (they are present on stock in Mi Note 10 pro).
Overall, I would give 8 out of 10 as for camera experience.
2) Storage: 128GB is more than enough for me. My previous device was Redmi Note 4 with 32GB plus 16BG on SD card and I managed as well. If you keep your device reasonably clean, I dont think there is much to worry. I sync my photos with Google Photos, so I can delete them from storage later. The only minor inconvenience is that when I want to/have to make factory reset (granted, most people dont do it often ), I have to copy files from internal storage to USB rather than keep them on SD card. But I can live with that.
3) Skin: I've always liked MIUI, so I'm satisfied. Stock features are ok, although I always like to customize my device as much as possible, so I root it and use Xposed Framework. But this is mainly matter of personal preferences. MIUI is heavy skin though, so it can explain occasional lags and little worse battery life than you could expect from >5000mAh battery. It's not absolutely bad though, I can easily use the phone more than one day with moderate usage (I don't play games).
I didn't notice much heating during usage, although as I mentioned, I'm not a gamer It heats a bit only when turbo charging, but it's not unusual.
3) AMOLED screen: Perfect for me. Nothing to complain about. Some people doesn't like rounded edges, I don't mind. Quality is excellent. OLED gives inifinite contrast, so black is totally black (because unused pixels are just turned off). Highest brightness is high enought to see everything even in sunlight (this is the biggest advantage over LCD). And you can use Always-on Display - I like this feature a lot.
4) Software: With stock ROM, as far as I know, updates are not that rare, but not very frequent too. The phone just got official Android 11 and since it started with A9, it's probably last major update (but probably will be getting new MIUI longer). I use weekly beta and I have A11 for some time already Actually there is one annoyance with MIUI based on A11: permissions and restrictions. You have to manually grant almost all permissions and with those more sensitive, you have to wait 10 seconds until the system lets you to grant it. It drives me crazy but fortunately, you have to do it only once Generally, MIUI A11 performes just ok.
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
Lord Sithek said:
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
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My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Lord Sithek said:
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
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Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
Umb0 said:
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
Lord Sithek said:
...surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
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Thanks for the tip, that was a revelation!
I've had the Mi Note 10 for just over a year, and I'd buy it again. The stock camera sometimes over-processes/saturates greens in landscapes, but it's not a deal-breaker. The portrait mode can produce some excellent pics. I've occasionally tried Gcam mods, but the stock camera is good enough most of the time.
Lord Sithek said:
Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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The more I look at the pics the Mi Note 10 can take, the more I'm set to it.
I was looking at the Mi 10T too.
I may buy it or the Mi Note 10 for the same price right now.
Speaking for myself, the Mi 10T sports a number of features that I don't find useful or even valuable, but I'd have to pay for nonetheless.
5G support is a pink invisible unicorn in my Country, at least for a good while. 4G devices are perfect.
The high Hz panel is a battery drain I don't need. You want 144 Hz? The chip must compose and present each. Talking of a... *mumbling* some quick math... 60:100=144:x ... x=144*100/60 ... x=240%... umm, talking of a +140% workload increase over a 60 Hz panel. No thanks!
The SoC is also powerful. Perhaps too much? My P9 runs 4x @ 2.5 and 4x @ 1.8 GHz cores. I can tell you it drains the battery quickly. I value more a slower chip that won't drink energy like beer.
Then there's the IPS vs. AMOLED thing... I've been living with IPS for the last 4.5 years and I appreciate it, but in total darkness the grey fog where black should be is gonna make you wish you chose differently.
Last, but not least, I have no samples to compare the Cameras against other devices. I'm sure that the Camera department has been shrunk to contain the production costs. It also lacks OIS, which I want this time around
As for the Lite versions... they were all in my radar. But none has OIS, and their photos always show artifacts from lot of Post-Processing (PP) to enhance the details. Sure, every phone does PP, but there's a reason if the more expensive devices don't need as much PP as the midrangers.
Camera wise, the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 is something! It's also modern and doesn't cost me a fortune
What I'm not thrilled about are the panel's rounded edges. Will get used to 'em, but I don't dig the change.
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Spoiler: 33 Hours Later (a true story)...
I'll just edit this in, hoping it's not against forum rules.
This afternoon I went to buy the smartphone. I could hardly believe to have found it so close to home (6 km) and at such a low price (349 €). And it was not from some minuscule shop nobody heard of, but in a Shopping Center and from none other than... um, I'm not sure I can name them.
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But I can reveal that it's a 2-words name, each word starting with M and each 5 characters long.
In their ads a capital red M character is also the omnipresent 3D object appearing in place of whatever the advertized product is.
Funny how they use their original name in all Europe, but in my Country alone they operate under a different name (always starting with M. Also, the ads copy the same graphics as the german originals).
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Anyway...
When I go at the counter, the surprises begin. They have 6 units total available and each box is NOT sealed, each phone has a protective film applied ALREADY, and there's a hidden EXTRA cost of 24 € for the "service", in addition to the price stated online.
I couldn't believe my ears as the clerk explained this stuff.
I asked if the phones were returned products or even refurbished, for none of this was explained or hinted at, online.
Heed his words: he didn't say they were "new" or "not refurbished", he said they were "not damaged products"!
Yeah, right...
I said this to him: "You can't prove your claim since the boxes are open. Keep your pre-applied protective films. For 350 euros I buy a sealed box covered by full warranty. You have one ready now, or I go away".
He mumbled: "I'm sorry" while turning at his monitor -- couldn't sustain my stare.
I didn't buy online to reserve the merchandise.
I could do so up until midnight yesterday, but waited too much and lost the opportunity (for reason unknown the merchandise went Unavailable for the time being).
Lady Luck herself made me miss the deal -- thank you thank you thank you!
Had I bought online, now it'd be trouble because... 1) I wouldn't get my money back (they'd give me a time-limited voucher valid in their shops only, but they got nothing I want) and... 2) to retrieve my merchandise at the counter I'd be charged the hidden 24 € -- else I wouldn't walk away with my property. Believe, it's all true!
I wonder what would have been sent me if I purchased online and chose to have it delivered home, and shudder at the idea of receiving a refurbished unit sold for pristine.
This thought is further strengthened by the customer reviews found on the website. Two reviews only, the last one from December 2020 saying that he "likes the Mi Note 10 but is disappointed by the lame touch display and fingerprint sensor".
From all accounts the Mi Note 10 doesn't mount lame hardware. I believe that this guy was sold a refurbished unit and he doesn't suspect it. He also praised the low price of the Mi Note 10. Sounds like he got a device from the lot I was presented today.
This is plain Commercial Misbehavior
[SMALL UPDATE]
In the end I bought the smartphone, at another shop, for another price.
I opted to have it delivered at the very shop, because it's near home and I'd go retrieve it myself.
Why use a courier when the shop is a mere 3 km from home -- right?
The package will arrive in two days from now, that is: the coming Monday... however I won't be able to retrieve it because starting with Monday we're in Lockdown and all shops will be closed. Until March 29th.
Covid sucks in every way