Still no always on display then? - OnePlus 7T Pro (Regular & McLaren) Q & A

Oneplus said they were working on one months ago but here we have the 7t/7t pro and still no sign.
I am pretty sure given how capable the Oneplus devs appear to be that if they really were working on it we’d have it by now. So I am now assuming that really are not bothered. Personally it’s a feature I like a lot (LG even managed it with an LCD!) I’d just appreciate some honesty from Oneplus.
Sorry a bit of a rant but I’d so like to buy a OP 7t pro but this (plus maybe wireless charging too) are important features for me that so many other OEMs offer.
YMMV, thoughts?
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If it comes, I would image it would come with Oxygen 10.5 or whatever with OP8

They have been "working" on it since the oneplus 5. I had the five and also thought it was months from releasing it.

TheGripper said:
They have been "working" on it since the oneplus 5. I had the five and also thought it was months from releasing it.
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No way they have been working on it IMO.
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I'm out - quitting on OnePlus #NeverSettle

I was an early adopter of the OnePlus One and strongly supported the company.
I was patient and waited to get my OnePlus Two invite, but I was not pleased that OnePlus was repeating the invite system. Still, I stuck with it.
This past Sunday, OnePlus sent me an invite (a holiday weekend)! But they sent it to my old email address (the address that I was using at the time I got the OnePlus One). I had changed my contact email on the OnePlus site a few weeks ago.
I didn't discover this invite until AFTER the 24 hour period had passed, so my invite was invalid.
I was bummed but nicely contacted customer service and the rep was very nice and helpful, and filled out out a service ticket. I was assured I'd hear back within 24-48 hours, but I heard nothing.
After the two days passed, I contacted customer service again, and another rep helped me by saying they will respond to my issue within 24 hours. Again, I heard nothing.
I've had it. I just ordered my Moto X Pure Edition. I went to Amazon, selected my item, and completed the purchase like a regular person.
It's so refreshing to just order a phone and expect to get it in a few days. It's not funny anymore.
#NeverSettle. I took OnePlus's advice and didn't settle.
Bummed about it, but psyched to get my Moto X.
Sucks. Got my OPT and loving it!
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Just buy one on swappa.com. There are a **** ton so you will only pay barely over Retail.
Yeah I got an invite on holiday weekend I just bought right away. I got the phone on Thursday is a nice upgrade but you shouldn't feel to bad is not a crazy upgrade it feels like a oneplus oneS lol.
I have currently my Oneplus Two send in for replacement, but since the Two isn't as fascinating as I thought and the Moto X Style is in my opinion better at all than the two, I will sell the Two when it arrives at home.
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Sucks. Got my OPT and loving it!
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What's your user experience been like? I received mine, buy have not unboxed it.
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alex1301 said:
I have currently my Oneplus Two send in for replacement, but since the Two isn't as fascinating as I thought and the Moto X Style is in my opinion better at all than the two, I will sell the Two when it arrives at home.
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Lol and what's so fascinating about the moto x style?
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Lol and what's so fascinating about the moto x style?
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Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Not weird, it's in English and it's from a chinese oneplus board. Working as intended.
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Not weird, it's in English and it's from a chinese oneplus board. Working as intended.
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And that's my problem. Most of the ROM's are from the chinese forum, so I don't know what is working or not. With the Style I have the chance that more English speaking people will work on it.
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Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Better screen? No, it has a higher resolution display and people are reporting horrible battery life like 2h SOT bad because of that screen so think again. SD-Card is not very necessary when you have 64gb of storage. Better support? Moto was one of the slowest OEMs to update their phones with last year's Moto X that was one of the biggest complaints. Less heat? OPT doesn't get hot? Ive had it for 2 weeks and not once it did it get even remotely hot, all the reviewers said the exact same thing. Better firmware? Refer to what I said above about updates and their software is less feature packed than Oxygen, even though Oxygen is still rough around the edges. And better community support? you got to be ****ting me on this. OnePlus phones always had the largest community/developer support compared to any phones. They are up there with Nexus devices.
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Better screen? No, it has a higher resolution display and people are reporting horrible battery life like 2h SOT bad because of that screen so think again. SD-Card is not very necessary when you have 64gb of storage. Better support? Moto was one of the slowest OEMs to update their phones with last year's Moto X that was one of the biggest complaints. Less heat? OPT doesn't get hot? Ive had it for 2 weeks and not once it did it get even remotely hot, all the reviewers said the exact same thing. Better firmware? Refer to what I said above about updates and their software is less feature packed than Oxygen, even though Oxygen is still rough around the edges. And better community support? you got to be ****ting me on this. OnePlus phones always had the largest community/developer support compared to any phones. They are up there with Nexus devices.
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The SOT thing is bull****. 4hrs are minimum. It is also reported in the Style forums here. With support I mean the customer support. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mine got during playing really hot at the metal edges.
For the software I can only refer to the semi working fingerprint scanner and homebutton. The only one thing I like about Oxygen is the dark theme, that's it.
The community/dev support was big when the Oneplus One came out. But now, it's ver slow. Nobody can get a good ROM with all functions working, because Oneplus doesn't release the drivers for the fingerprint scanner. Yes, they don't have to, but what does the releaxed attitude towards unlocking the bootloader help when you only have barely working ROM's?
I don't want to start a rough discussion. Everybody can decide for themeselves which phone they like more. Oneplus changed my attitude towards them when they took nearly three weeks to send me a correct RMA ticket! I will test the Style. I don't really need the fingerprint scanner, but regarding Android Pay, NFC would be more interesting than the fingerprint scanner.
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The SOT thing is bull****. 4hrs are minimum. It is also reported in the Style forums here. With support I mean the customer support. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mine got during playing really hot at the metal edges.
For the software I can only refer to the semi working fingerprint scanner and homebutton. The only one thing I like about Oxygen is the dark theme, that's it.
The community/dev support was big when the Oneplus One came out. But now, it's ver slow. Nobody can get a good ROM with all functions working, because Oneplus doesn't release the drivers for the fingerprint scanner. Yes, they don't have to, but what does the releaxed attitude towards unlocking the bootloader help when you only have barely working ROM's?
I don't want to start a rough discussion. Everybody can decide for themeselves which phone they like more. Oneplus changed my attitude towards them when they took nearly three weeks to send me a correct RMA ticket! I will test the Style. I don't really need the fingerprint scanner, but regarding Android Pay, NFC would be more interesting than the fingerprint scanner.
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The Style had me interested until I saw the battery life results. While some people are able to get 4 hours SOT, I've seen a ton of reports of people struggling to get much better than 3 hours, which is what I was expecting. Development for the OP2 will pick up once more developers are able to get their hands on one. Mine got warm when I restored my apps and once in awhile when I play games but it's not unbearable. I'll take a fingerprint reader over NFC too. I'd be more interested in LGs next Nexus device over the Style, but that's just me!
But seriously, for those people with OPT that have somewhat unresponsive fingerprint scanner/home button. I didn't have that issue, and 1 of my friend didn't have that issue. But to me 64bit processor are still better(minus the downclocking), if you are still stay at SD80x it's still okay. Since they already predicted next year SD820 will be released. Still it is up to you
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And that's my problem. Most of the ROM's are from the chinese forum, so I don't know what is working or not. With the Style I have the chance that more English speaking people will work on it.
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I was referring to TWRP.
PS: If you haven't looked at XDA's portal about motorola's post, you better do. Motorola is a lenovo company and lenovo is a Chinese company period

Planning to buy opt

Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
its a good phone for the price. Development and updates are gonna come soon now, so you almost picked the perfect time. My fingerprint and homebutton has always been working fine and all I did was unlock, root and install some kernels for now. I think the problems are hardware related though. To be honest. If you can affort it, definitely go for a nexus 6p.
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im planning also to get this device, im confused if the 1+2 or the Redmi Note 3 pro.
It depends if you want a clean stock Android interface go for opt, if you want miui then go for mi note pro 3.
I personally would go for opt.
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Avoid it. I sold my OPT after 6 months. Fingerprint doesn't work as soon as any moisture touches it. No real developer interest - looks at the threads to see all the devs who left. The price used to be a great draw until the Nexus price drops. And at the end of the day, nothing will fix the SD 810 which is an overheating mess. It just doesn't work.
If price matters, get the N5X. If you want the best phone right now, get the S7 Edge.
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Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
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unless you get a used one on swappa or ebay for a deal, don't get it. I sold mine, Oxygen OS is terrible and even though there are custom roms where FP and LAF work, they are buggy. Wait for the Oneplus 3 or settle back for the original Oneplus One.
Love my OPT bought it in october and dont understand all the hate. Great overall experience. I ise exodus rom no bugs at all. But again all user choice. ?
Nexus 5 over heats way more than this device. fp and laf works perfect for me (only tested cm13 and exodus, though)
It's a great device, just buy it and dont think about it. The fingerprint Sensor is working awesome, much faster than the iPhone one. With the 3.0 update everything runs buttery smooth
I'd say it's really a gamble if you're buying the OPT since their tech support is flaky at best. The hardware specs are reasonable for the price and there are some good devs out there like Lord Boeffla and his kernel, however you will also have huge issues if your phone develops hardware problems. For example - some owners have setup a twitter account recently to badger Oneplus as they can't get any response from the local and official support channels after encountering hardware issues. I'd suggest taking the Nexus 5x instead as it is around the Oneplus price range and LG is a much larger and established company which will take RMA and support issues seriously.
my oneplus2 just arrived
I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Won't suggest, better to go for a lower powered phone instead for the price.
Spec sheets are not everything
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Go for it.
I too am going to be getting myself a opt next week. I've been pretty loyal to samsung in general owned a nexus 6 but still came back. I'm selling the note 4 so effectively getting opt free.
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I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Exactly my expreience as well. With the OOS 3.0 beta it's like a completely new phone. It doesn't get warm at all, the performance is actually what you would expect from a Snapdragon 810 and the battery life is what you would expect from 3300mAh. It was always kind of held back by the ****ty software but with the 3.0 beta working really well and official cyanogenmod on the way, I can't think of a better phone at this price.
I've had my OP2 since they were first released, and have to say I'm still really happy with it. As mentioned by others, OOS3 (and the recent CM13 builds) have made performance 10 times better, and have no major complaints. Never had any problems with the home button or anything else. It's a steal at the price, imo
Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Based on?
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Based on?
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Based on mine failing as well as a crap ton of others on this forum and oneplus community forum in the past month. I've raised this with OnePlus and they brushed it off, however they are RMA'ing my phone.
Trust me, I tried all the software tricks none of them worked for me.

It's time to say goodbye - farewell OP rant

As a former huge OnePlus fan, it's time to say goodbye. I never upgraded after the 2, the phones got more expensive and the upgraded features didn't justify the additional cost. I've been running my OnePlus 2 on DU 11.5 for months now, the ROM development just never got to where we all hoped it to be. I blame OnePlus for this not giving the developers the tools needed and really hindering their success opportunities.
A huge thanks to all the devs who have and still put work into keeping this phone development alive. Until we meet again.
As for where I'm going. I'm a 2 phone guy, one for work and one for personal. I'll be switching my personal over to the Samsung A5(2017) which is an incredible phone. And my corporate phone will be an iPhone 7...
Farewell. I'm personally not buying OnePlus again.
Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
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Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
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That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
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That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
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The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
Murbert said:
The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
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Lg g6
Farewell!!
Yeah, I have enjoyed my one plus 2 also but the lack of decent support from the company has turned me off from them. Around the beginning or middle of next month I will be switching to something else. Farewell OP2
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
Kirahvi said:
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
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This sums up my thoughts too. I'm happy with my OP2 for now but when it comes time to change I won't buy another OP.
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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I would say yey new ROM !
There seems to be some good devs working on the phone still so would be surprised if they where all missing something.
I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
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Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
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OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017
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Come on, stop. OnePlus 2 was not a good phone, is not a good phone and would never be a good phone.
How can you say it's a good phone when you see User Experience is so bad with the Snapdragon 810, when there is so much thermal throttling every time you are doing something on the phone ? (don't talk about underclock / overclock / custom kernel / etc, those are elements which are flashed after by the user, and are not relevant for every users).
When you can see that you can buy a OnePlus 3T for 350E on Ebay (what I did, phone is in perfect condition), you should not even consider buying the OnePlus 2.
Never had those problems, but I am not using it for games. Phone works just fine - not saying it is (or ever was) a great phone, just a reasonably good one. Mostly let down by software and company which became greedy, and yes, while being the latest thing at the time Snapdragon 810 wasn't that good. Still it works for all basic needs, even after 2 years specs are almost impressive and user experience can be ok. *Not* a power-user experience.
Not comparing it to flagships because it never really was in that category, and you also should put it in it's price bracket, you bought used 3T for 350€ while OP2 when new was 300€. So there's that. After having it for a year and a half I am surely not considering buying another one or recommending someone to get OP2 or any OP actually. For that user experience and satisfaction should be on higher level.
Actually i will buy oneplus again. Why, because it's cheaper then the rivals much cheaper. And i really like my oneplus 2, spent 100 euros for it, really cheap and good phone.
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I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
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Me too on that one...
Bought a Nexus 4 towards the end of them selling out for like £150 or something, was a brilliant phone even though I replaced god knows how many screens and back's on it but was a great great phone
Efforts will be put in getting Oreo up for the OP2, specifically halogenOS 8.0
Any help is appreciated, if you want to submit patches, do so via review.halogenos.org, otherwise, if you have a device tree, let us know.
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What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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Hi CertifiedBlyndGuy, if I am not wrong then you're the AOSPA maintainer for OnePlus X. Are you building AOSPA for OnePlus 2 as well ?

Love this phone but getting a bit old now, What to replace with?

Ive had the nexus 6p for a while now and had to replace the battery numerous times (mostly due to my using wireless charging that seems to eat batteries). i recently updated it with lineage 15.1 which seems to be working fine but having replaced the battery yet again im thinking it might be about time to look for a replacement phone. i did fancy a honor but found that the bootloader unlocking is now a problem so thats out the equation. question is what should i consider for my next phone? it needs a decent size screen, rootable / flashable, and most of all it needs to be affordable. any suggestions?
OnePlus 6T which should be announced in a couple of weeks?
It's been 3 months since I changed my nexus 6P for a Oneplus 6, and I'm really happy, I had a little hesitation because of the notch, but as she is small she does not bother.
The optimization of OxygenOs (Android Pie ) is really great, 0 lags in apps and games.
You can root it with magisk
For me it's definitely going to be the oneplus 6t end of November or December I am buying it for sure.
I'm going to replace mine with a Pixel 3 XL. I don't care if it's ugly as hell, I'd rather stick with a Google device. I'd like to avoid making the mistake of switching to another manufacturer again, even if they have a good reputation like OnePlus. It's never as good as having a Nexus/Pixel device straight from Google.
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I'm going to replace mine with a Pixel 3 XL. I don't care if it's ugly as hell, I'd rather stick with a Google device. I'd like to avoid making the mistake of switching to another manufacturer again, even if they have a good reputation like OnePlus. It's never as good as having a Nexus/Pixel device straight from Google.
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im leaning the same way too, i did have a go with a honor that looked fine until i found there is no more bootloader unlocks so that went back. i do quite like the look of oneplus but im not that rich sadly so im thinking a second hand pixel might be the way forward. ive just replaced the battery in the 6p again so that should be ok for now but in the end i do need to start looking at an update / upgrade. thanks for the replies :good:
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I'm going to replace mine with a Pixel 3 XL. I don't care if it's ugly as hell, I'd rather stick with a Google device. I'd like to avoid making the mistake of switching to another manufacturer again, even if they have a good reputation like OnePlus. It's never as good as having a Nexus/Pixel device straight from Google.
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I'm doing a similar thing. I bought the Nexus 6p just before the OG Pixel came out. In fact I received it in the mail on launch day.
If I don't see any deals soon from Google, I'm just going to pick up a Pixel 2 XL in New/mint condition on Swappa. They're already dropping pretty low in price.
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Ive had the nexus 6p for a while now and had to replace the battery numerous times (mostly due to my using wireless charging that seems to eat batteries). i recently updated it with lineage 15.1 which seems to be working fine but having replaced the battery yet again im thinking it might be about time to look for a replacement phone. i did fancy a honor but found that the bootloader unlocking is now a problem so thats out the equation. question is what should i consider for my next phone? it needs a decent size screen, rootable / flashable, and most of all it needs to be affordable. any suggestions?
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One plus doesn't work with Verizon.
I am waiting for a 7nm chip from Qualcomm and Supervooc to be implemented in Oneplus. Maybe Oneplus 7t . Replaced my battery 3 months back and it works fine for now. I cannot live without HDR+ though. Google has really spoiled us.
I also keep wondering what to replace my 6p with.... But I just went ahead and put a second new battery in today... There's life in this 3 year old yet!
If someone came out with a flat screened phone as to have tempered glass screen protectors properly functional again, I might go for that...
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I also keep wondering what to replace my 6p with.... But I just went ahead and put a second new battery in today... There's life in this 3 year old yet!
If someone came out with a flat screened phone as to have tempered glass screen protectors properly functional again, I might go for that...
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i too have just replaced my battery so hope to get another year out of this, i even managed to buy another 6p thats used but in good condition and has 64gb so i should be all set for a while yet i hope. If all else fails im only 20 miles from Lincoln so i can come 'borrow' yours
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The 6t does
Xiaomi Mi A2
alerton said:
Ive had the nexus 6p for a while now and had to replace the battery numerous times (mostly due to my using wireless charging that seems to eat batteries). i recently updated it with lineage 15.1 which seems to be working fine but having replaced the battery yet again im thinking it might be about time to look for a replacement phone. i did fancy a honor but found that the bootloader unlocking is now a problem so thats out the equation. question is what should i consider for my next phone? it needs a decent size screen, rootable / flashable, and most of all it needs to be affordable. any suggestions?
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I sold my Nexus 6P and buy a Xiaomi Mi A2, I'm so happy with this new phone and now I got Android 9 Pie (Beta)
This is an affordable phone, nice specs and takes fine photos and I love the stabilization of the videos.
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I sold my Nexus 6P and buy a Xiaomi Mi A2, I'm so happy with this new phone and now I got Android 9 Pie (Beta)
This is an affordable phone, nice specs and takes fine photos and I love the stabilization of the videos.
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the most important thing for me are updates!!! is xiaomi good with this? any others than Pixels? (not for that price!)
baxxter106 said:
the most important thing for me are updates!!! is xiaomi good with this? any others than Pixels? (not for that price!)
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For me too, but Pixel are very expensive and the current desing is not good (in my opinion), because the normal is small and the XL is very ugly with this notch.
The Xiaomi Mi A2 is an Android One mobile, in this month I got the november patch the same day that Pixel and Nexus. For security patch is faster.
At this moment I get Android 9 Pie (beta) and in the end of this month the stable version will be released. I know, Pie is on Pixel some months ago, but for affordable phone only wait 3 months to get Pie and is not too bad, other expensive phones take same or much more time to get it.
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I was looking at the OnePlus 6t as well, as on of our IT techs just got it, however it doesn't work on the Sprint network either
I am looking at the Poco F1. The development on it is thriving. More active than N6P.
I just ordered my OnePlus 6T. Should arrive on Monday
It was a pleasure to flash ROMs alongside you gentlemen. I'll see some of you on the 6T forums ?
Ended up with OP 6T too. At a certain point I got fed up with constantly comparing specs and went with good overall performance and reasonably standard Android. Not happy at all with losing 3.5mm jack but there's the adapter and so be it.
I frankly fail to see why nobody offers a flagship phone with Android One.
Currently in the same boat. Im about to jump ship from Verizon to Total Wireless (I know, same network but at least its much cheaper)
The OnePlus 6T can apparently work on Verizon as long as you contact Verizon and make sure they set it as a "CDMA Less device".
Not sure how i could make that happen if Im on Total Wireless. Backup plan is a 2XL or 3XL. 2XL only because the main dev on ABC ROM just got a 2XL so its guaranteed to be ported. 3XL development not sure how long that will take.

Mate 20 Pro alternatives in 2019

I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
charliebigpot said:
I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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Fair point, but it's just that if I think like that I'll have to stick to the mate20pro for another half year or so, most other "flagship" android phones have already been released for this year.. I reckon that the S10 or S10+ are the only ones that come close to the mate20pro in terms of camera versatility, battery, size, and I'd also get the headphone jack, which is nice.
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
tobias14 said:
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
I have the same problem. Only phone what can change is P30 Pro but good one model, without reed, orange color problem in camera.
S10 Plus is finr but still no even close to Mate 20 Pro.
Im still on my Mate 20 Pro and I cant change it, because P30 Pro is still expensive for me. But the price is falling day by day for my Mate 20 Pro.
charliebigpot said:
Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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Yep, thinking exactly the same. Sadly for me there is no proper alternative right now.
OP7 camera is dissapointing (according to feedbacks on OP forums), it has ghost touch issues (probably SW related, so fixable)..
S10+ on the other hand has desperately slow charging, camera is good but still a no match for Mate's in poor light conditions
Well, probably will sell my Mate soon and anyway take one of the above devices. As you say, it may happen that in few months this phone won't be sellable
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
cisco kidd said:
people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
Got an iPhone XS Max 256 GB and i love it ! I still have my mate 20 pro. Maybe I will sell it but I got used to iOS so quick and it is really good. I got a used one from swappa less than 800 and it works great. I’ve been an Android fan for some years now but I think I might like the iPhone better also I live in USA and iMessage is a must here. Don’t be afraid of using other OS. Camera is great as well. No night mode or ultra wide but the standard pictures IMO are more flattering and taking pictures it’s instant. I took a bunch of pictures and colored side by side and surprisingly I like the iPhones better. Just wanted to tell you my experience
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
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All current devices will continue to receive security updates and access to google play, Future devices may not but as it appears Google and Huawei are working together. Of course everything published is negative is that not the way it always is? Doom and gloom first then reality. I just bought a P30 Pro on device upgrade yesterday for cheap 350 in canada and my mthly plan stayed pretty much the same as it ws prior, in fact I got more data , I am in Canada. I am not too concerned, in fact if I opt for the Mate 20 I can save another 100 but damn the 10x zoom is so appealing, yet to open box
I think this is not a really big issue, even if you can't get auto update on your Huawei.
Google can't stop you install the software
such a nice phone what a pity to throw away
I'll probably get Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL somewhere in November - December. Don't want one more Chinese phone anymore.

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