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I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
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I just got the redmi 3. Size is great. Prior to this, I used a oneplus one which was too large, and a first gen moto x, which was perfect size wise. Battery life on the 3 is amazing so far. Camera is good but not great. OS is lollipop with no indication that it'll be upgraded to marshmallow through official channels. If that is a hard requirement, then you should probably look at something else. The Mi5 would give you a better camera, marshmallow, and similar size at a more expensive price point.
If I were you, I'd buy Galaxy S7 or S8 in the end of year. 5" to 5.2" is nothing
you won't find a phone under 5" with very good battery life and all phones with good camera are above 5".
So take Redmi/Pro or Huawei Honor Holly 2 Plus
Why do you want marshmallow? I made the mistake of allowing the upgrade to take place on a 5.1.1 2GB Moto G2015. Google have completely messed up the memory management in their attempts to consolidate the microSD card into main storage. Fortunately I was able to restore it back to 5.1.1 and regain proper control of storage location.
And there is nothing else other than claimed battery life improvement in marshmallow, which isn't necessary on the Redmi 3/3 Pro, since it's excellent anyway... It's the mtk chipsets that have awful battery life, this is Qualcomm.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi...ni-Mi-5-with-Snapdragon-820-SoC.167319.0.html
Pray for a good camera?
I had the same problem mean small phone for woman's hands. Redmi 3 is probably the best sub 5" phone you can buy today. The battery life is crazy. With light use you may get 7 ( SEVEN ) days of work.
You may also consider Samsung Galaxy A3(2016) but I do not think is it any better
if u say "camera so-so" for mi5, redmi 3 is not for you.
It makes just sufficient pics, no more.
From my searching for over a week the is no even one smartphone under 5" produced in the world with decent camera.
You want good photos ? Buy DSLR.
There is no possibility that smartphone will ever make photos comparable to quality made by average compact camera. This is the matter of size of the lens. These are physics and optics rules.
I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam
To me Le Max 2 is best cost-benefit smartphone for now.
I'm waiting for my x820 be delivered (delayed).
Le Pro 3 Elite (SD820 ver.) is an good option too.
Meizu m6 note is getting up to 65.000 on Antutu.
Any SD820 gets up to 120.000 points easily.
This matters to me, and to you?
Heyyo, of those three? It's hard to tell tbh... The LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite and Le Max 2 are great and of course the Le Max 2 uses the Sony IMX230 camera sensor which is really darn good and the Le Pro 3 uses the IMX298 which is also pretty darn good... So it's a hard toss up.
The Le Pro 3 Elite does have a slightly faster system on a chip with the SnapDragon 821 (OnePlus 3T and Google Pixle use them as well) compared to the SD 820 (OnePlus 3 and Samsung Galaxy S7 SD variant use them as well)
The Le Max 2 does use a QHD display so if you're big into VR headsets for phones it is better in that regard, otherwise the Le Pro 3 does have better battery life due to the FHD screen.
I think the major downside to the Meizu M6 Note is custom ROM community... If you look here on the XDA forum section it's quite bare... So I wouldn't advise buying it unless you're ready to helm the development for the device... That is, if there's even source code available for the kernel...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/meizu-m6-note
Do you think should I buy Le max 2 (4/32) for 144 euro or (6/64) for 190 euro?
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The Le Pro 3 Elite does have a slightly faster system on a chip with the SnapDragon 821 (OnePlus 3T and Google Pixle use them as well) compared to the SD 820 (OnePlus 3 and Samsung Galaxy S7 SD variant use them as well)
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Le Eco 3 Pro ELITE has Snapdragon 820
LE Eco 3 Pro has Snapdragon 821.
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/4192b31ed
The Elite is pretty snappy, and one can still buy them,
OTOH the 3 Pro is nearly impossible to buy now, and if so, then the price is rather steep ~ $300+
BTW, I have both, I do prefer the 2K screen on Max 2, but the battery is smaller about 3100 mAh, the Pro 3 ELITE has 4070 mAh.
The camera is OK on both and Google Cam SW works on both of them, the details which version you will need research on this forum.
For the money, I think both are great values. There are many reviews out here, seek and you shall find....
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I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam
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Definitely buy the Le Max 2. I bought one recently (the 6gb, 64gb model) for apprx 170 pounds UK and am amazed at how good it is. The screen is beautiful, and the camera and sound are amazing - I've owned loads of different smarphones for years and this is by far the best one. I've always rooted previous phones and installed extra sound mods like viper, etc, but this Is the first I've owned that I can find nothing to improve upon. Its runs any application incredibly quickly and frankly it's a steal at the price. I looked up the stats of Le Pro3 and it looks like a big step down as screen size is smaller and resolution only goes to 1080 so you'll miss out on the brilliant 2160 resolution (which is also very handy for VR).
Go ahead and live the dream
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Le Eco 3 Pro ELITE has Snapdragon 820
LE Eco 3 Pro has Snapdragon 821.
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/4192b31ed
The Elite is pretty snappy, and one can still buy them,
OTOH the 3 Pro is nearly impossible to buy now, and if so, then the price is rather steep ~ $300+
BTW, I have both, I do prefer the 2K screen on Max 2, but the battery is smaller about 3100 mAh, the Pro 3 ELITE has 4070 mAh.
The camera is OK on both and Google Cam SW works on both of them, the details which version you will need research on this forum.
For the money, I think both are great values. There are many reviews out here, seek and you shall find....
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oh i see and I stand corrected.
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Do you think should I buy Le max 2 (4/32) for 144 euro or (6/64) for 190 euro?
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Buyer: "How much is it?"
Seller: "How much money you got?"
More flash (storage) is of course better, more RAM - over 4 GB is a diminishing return, you pay for it, but OS/apps seldom benefits from it.
Besides the price, I think you should expand your selection matrix.
Do you plan to use custom rom? What are your choices?
The way as the phone comes out from the box, either X722 (Pro 3 Elite) or X820 (Le Max 2), you gonna look at EUI 5.8 (or 5.9).:crying:
If you can live with it, fine. I could not.
It is not the Android 6.0.1 as much, as the #$%^&* user interface!
So before I bought either phone, I'd explored what to replace EUI with.
Then you begin facing the problems of the cameras and fingerprint sensor (and maybe more).
The choice between X722 and X820 then might shift.
I prefer functioning phone, anything above it - is a bonus (bigger screen, or battery).
If I got working camera, battery charging, low draining and finger print sensor (obviously with working connectivity), then I am set.
On X820 I went through 3 custom roms until I got to the point, not nirvana, but satisfaction.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones , read the user comments; whatever phone you choose.
Good luck with your choices.
chourdis said:
I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam
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If your concerned about speed on the Le Max 2, don't on the stock ROM speed is good enough for a heavy user, although if you want to ramp things up abit there are OC kernels (especially for SLIM7 ROM) which provide the same and even better performance than a snapdragon 821 , my friends stock Pixel XL could not keep up on any benchmark with the OC kernel.
The camera is one of the highlights of the phone, the sensor is very big with 21MP and a nice pixel size, if your looking purely at a hardware perspective the Le Max 2 has got the best camera, fact. Although on stock EUI Rom Leeco post processing degrades the image quality, the average user wont really notice this but if you are into taking pictures flash a Nougat or Oreo 8.1 ROM and download a modded Gcam 5.1 apk turn on HDR to get absolutely superb images, they are better then a Pixel XL no doubt, the detail is unrivalled (even my XZ premium cant hold that quality), if you want just ask me if you want some sample pictures, in my opinion this mixture between pixel size and mega pixels is perfect as it brings in a very healthy balance between the pixel size and megapixels, what I like most with the new BSG Google Cams is that you can tone down the noise to nothing and still attain pictures with the same detail as a Pixel XL as the Le Max 2 has much more MP to play with so the Pixel XL images have so much more noise while the Le Max 2 looks sharp and clean. So overall this camera sensor can take brilliant photos. Video I would say is just above average, the OIS is there but is not as good as the Pixel XL's EIS, although if you download the EUI 6 ROM and slap a modded Gcam on it the stabilization is the same as the one found on the Pixel XL, in terms on FPS, slo motion is not very good as the shutter speed has to go down alot and the resolution is not sharp enough, this is about average and the same goes for 1080p as it is caped at 30fps annoyingly (even though hardware wise it can achieve 60fps), 4K video actually looks pretty good but in low light there is alittle bit more noise rather than in a Pixel XL which isnt that bad. The front camera is 8MP with a giant pixel size although dont expect masterpieces on low light, in good light it looks impressive although the fixed focal point is not in the best place so some pictures may be abit blurry, but again slap HDR on the front camera and low light pictures look pretty good but the dynamic range does not really increase too much, overall the front and back cameras are very good.
The 1440p screen looks very nice with a nice contrast and colour accuracy on custom ROM's ( don't stay on EUI for its screen colours), although as it is an LCD panel in low light those blacks turn into a ugly grey colour and the contrast range does decrease abit, although this is on all LCD panels including the Le Pro 3. Overall the screen is brilliant in most conditions and to top that if you somehow break the screen it is so easy to fix and the screen and digitiser itself only costs around $19!
Battery life is a hard one, a heavy user like me gets around 3-4 hours SOT which is pretty good although I am on the SLIM7 optimised ROM, on stock EUI the battery life is horrible I was getting max 2.5 hours SOT, I am pretty sure while on custom ROMs the battery life is alright the Le pro 3 is much better. Although the fast charging is super fast and charges fully under an hour and thats with the stock charger and cables ( still got them and they are built very well ).
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If your concerned about speed on the Le Max 2, don't on the stock ROM speed is good enough for a heavy user, although if you want to ramp things up abit there are OC kernels (especially for SLIM7 ROM) which provide the same and even better performance than a snapdragon 821 , my friends stock Pixel XL could not keep up on any benchmark with the OC kernel.
The camera is one of the highlights of the phone, the sensor is very big with 21MP and a nice pixel size, if your looking purely at a hardware perspective the Le Max 2 has got the best camera, fact. Although on stock EUI Rom Leeco post processing degrades the image quality, the average user wont really notice this but if you are into taking pictures flash a Nougat or Oreo 8.1 ROM and download a modded Gcam 5.1 apk turn on HDR to get absolutely superb images, they are better then a Pixel XL no doubt, the detail is unrivalled (even my XZ premium cant hold that quality), if you want just ask me if you want some sample pictures, in my opinion this mixture between pixel size and mega pixels is perfect as it brings in a very healthy balance between the pixel size and megapixels, what I like most with the new BSG Google Cams is that you can tone down the noise to nothing and still attain pictures with the same detail as a Pixel XL as the Le Max 2 has much more MP to play with so the Pixel XL images have so much more noise while the Le Max 2 looks sharp and clean. So overall this camera sensor can take brilliant photos. Video I would say is just above average, the OIS is there but is not as good as the Pixel XL's EIS, although if you download the EUI 6 ROM and slap a modded Gcam on it the stabilization is the same as the one found on the Pixel XL, in terms on FPS, slo motion is not very good as the shutter speed has to go down alot and the resolution is not sharp enough, this is about average and the same goes for 1080p as it is caped at 30fps annoyingly (even though hardware wise it can achieve 60fps), 4K video actually looks pretty good but in low light there is alittle bit more noise rather than in a Pixel XL which isnt that bad. The front camera is 8MP with a giant pixel size although dont expect masterpieces on low light, in good light it looks impressive although the fixed focal point is not in the best place so some pictures may be abit blurry, but again slap HDR on the front camera and low light pictures look pretty good but the dynamic range does not really increase too much, overall the front and back cameras are very good.
The 1440p screen looks very nice with a nice contrast and colour accuracy on custom ROM's ( don't stay on EUI for its screen colours), although as it is an LCD panel in low light those blacks turn into a ugly grey colour and the contrast range does decrease abit, although this is on all LCD panels including the Le Pro 3. Overall the screen is brilliant in most conditions and to top that if you somehow break the screen it is so easy to fix and the screen and digitiser itself only costs around $19!
Battery life is a hard one, a heavy user like me gets around 3-4 hours SOT which is pretty good although I am on the SLIM7 optimised ROM, on stock EUI the battery life is horrible I was getting max 2.5 hours SOT, I am pretty sure while on custom ROMs the battery life is alright the Le pro 3 is much better. Although the fast charging is super fast and charges fully under an hour and thats with the stock charger and cables ( still got them and they are built very well ).
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I will probably buy the Le Max 2 (6/64 version), do you know which custom rom is better for battery life (I dont play games). Also is the selfie camera good/decent compared to other phones?
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oh i see and I stand corrected.
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After all, programmers have a tendency to being off by one.
Cheers!
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I will probably buy the Le Max 2 (6/64 version), do you know which custom rom is better for battery life (I dont play games). Also is the selfie camera good/decent compared to other phones?
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Definitely the Slim7 ROM, there is a new battery saving kernel ( BlackScreen 3.6.2 ) which you can separately download and flash, this gave me 5+ SOT which is very impressive taking in the size of the battery and screen. The front camera is pretty good in good lighting conditions it fully utilizes all of its 8MP with a hefty 1.4 μm pixel size the images look crisp and clean and fully comparable to flagships, although in bad lighting the image will suffer more than a typical flagship phone, although can be sorted through the Google HDR algorithm which brings back most of the detail and lowers the noise, the angle of view is average for a front camera, so overall the front camera is above average, I have seen much worse but I have seen some much better.
Hello. This is for those who are still on N6P but are ready to move on, and contemplating either OnePlus 6T or Pixel 3 XL, for obvious reasons, both phones are similar size, with impressive dev activity w/ freedom to root/unlock and develop without hassle from OEM.
- I had great fun porting roms to 6P and customizing popular kernels just to make them unique, LeanKernel w/ EX features for example.
I bought the 6T midnight w/ 8gb of ram and 128 GB direct from OnePlus. A co-worker got a Pixel 3 XL from Verizon. I've played with both.
My sentiment with Pixel 3 XL
- After playing with the Pixel 3 XL, I've come to the conclusion and agreement with some others. Pixel 3 XL was not meant for us. Pixel 3 XL was not made for Nexus 6P fans. It was not made for Nexus fans. Pixel 3 XL feels more like Apple iPhone than ANY Android phone I've ever used or touched. Pixel 3 XL for me is an odd experience, because as I used it, I became aware and realized what Google tried to do with the Pixel 3 XL and why they partnered with Verizon. Verizon partnership clearly gives Pixel 3 XL the greatest opportunity and chance to convert Apple fans to Google Pixel 3 XL. I think many of your Nexus 6P owners after playing with Pixel 3 XL would come to the same conclusion. Pixel 3 XL oddly felt very simple, and LIMITED, just like an iPhone. While Pixel 3 XL fans will be able to customize to their heart's content with custom roms, mods and addons, but this stock experience left a bad taste in my mouth realizing who this phone was meant for. It was meant for the simple iPhone user who wastes their life on instagram posting selfies.
Value
- That's what the 6P was about. We all knew we would get cutting edge hardware with some sacrifices on the 6P, SD810, decent battery size, impressive EIS on the camera, latest updates, the first phone that exemplified how great fingerprint reader can be. Sacrifices to the camera and headphone output for example. But it was worth it to have an affordable, reasonably priced phone with the freedom to do with as we liked. We owned this phone, in it's entirety.
- 6T embodies that same philosophy as 6P. Cutting edge hardware with SD 845 and 8GB of ram, and blazing fast face unlock and decent on-screen fingerprint.
- The camera. 6T camera, not a debate, huge improvement over 6P. No question. Coming from 6P to 6T, you're gonna LOVE the camera. Yes it's not as good as Samsung Note 9, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, Pixel 3 XL cameras, but compared to 6P, 6T camera is excellent improvement. On top of that, Pixel 3 Camera software works on 6P, takes great night pictures.
- Consider the value of the 6P and the freedom OnePlus allows, I believe the average current 6P owners will be like me, it's worth sacrificing the camera for those other gains. Als
- Pixel 3 XL has gone a different road. It's expensive. It's gimped on hardware that matters, battery, ram, no face recognition, and just an awful design, the worst designed flagship phone of 2018.
- Pixel 3 XL is NOT worth $900. It's not. You can get a Galaxy S9 Plus for less and it's a superior phone, in nearly every way. Pixel 3 XL does not deserve to be in the $900-1000 budget with Samsung, Huawei and Apple, it's just doesn't deserve to be there. Pixel 3 XL is the opposite of what Nexus was about. It's on the opposite spectrum of value.
Feel, 6T wins.
- Both 6T and Pixel 3 XL improved on feel over the 6P. They both hold in your well more comfortably than 6P. But the frosted glass on the 6T I prefer it. And it's narrower than Pixel 3 XL, it's more comfortable in my hands. Will admit the Pixel 3 XL rear is more grippy, but it's still slippery.
Hardware. 6T easily wins.
- 8GB of ram vs 4GB. Using the Pixel 3 XL, can clearly tell 4GB is not enough, even with the software updates. Baffled how Google can charge $900 for a phone w/ 4gb, baffling.
- The design. Wow, that notch, is horrifying, and so is the massive chin. Google definitely could have provided stereo speakers with almost no bezel design. Pixel 3 XL is 2018 design fail of the year. Comparing Pixel 3 XL's notch to iPhone, and other competitors, it's horrifying how bad it is. The 6T has a drop notch, and it's unwanted as well. But the 6T gets rid of the notch thanks to the OLED display, but still uses that empty space for status bar. The Pixel 3 XL does not. It's just really bad, Google clearly didn't care at launch or still.
- Pixel 3 XL microphone. Wow... The microphone on Pixel 3 XL is garbage. I don't know if it's the hardware or digital processing, either way, it is garbage. Especially recording, it's garbage.
- 6T stereo microphone recording, great. The opposite of Pixel 3 XL's garbage.
- IP68 rating. Well done some research. The OnePlus 6T undergoes gruesome QA/QI testing, including a 100 hour rain test, temperature ranging from -40 to 90 C. Watching tear down videos provide clear evidence OnePlus design includes ALL necessary details and components to achieve IP68 rating. This should be a non-issue. Also consider, none of the OEM guarantee water resistance or honor warranty for liquid damage. Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google all use liquid damage sensors in their phones. Anyone who risks liquid damage and trusts the IP68 rating is an idiot.
- The caseback. Yeah, that's a no contest. The frosted black on 6T looks better than Pixel 3 XL IMO, and it doesn't scratch like the Pixel 3 XL. And that oddity around the camera on Pixel 3 XL looks terrible, it really does.
- Pixel 3 XL does have wireless charging. But... The 6T Dash Charge charges faster than Pixel 3 XL, and... the 3700 mah battery is AWESOME. I've never run out of juice, including hours of gaming, youtube, browsing, reading etc. I never worry about the display brightness etc. For reasons I can't think of, if wireless charging is more important than Dash fast charge and 3700 mah battery, well we clearly have different needs. Battery life vs wireless charging? Really? Is that even worth discussing or debating?
- Pixel 3 XL has quad display. Yes, but it also has a blue haze, it's VERY evident. The color profiles also suck, with idiotic names like warm, what is warm and natural? Is this phone for iPhone simpletons or tech nerds? 6T display does not shift color or blue haze, and it has understandable color profiles like sRGB, DCI-3P, makes sense, call it what it is. The Pixel 3 display honestly is better than Pixel 3 XL, pay more for worse screen, what a joke.
- DisplayMate awarding top award to Pixel 3 XL is a farce. What a joke. The blue haze shift still exists on the Pixel 3 XL LG display, how that can win any award is a joke.
- Pixel 3 XL has better stereo speakers. Stock 6T has mono single speaker. I'm rocking the 6T stereo speaker mod w/ EX's kernel that allows me to adjust volume of either speaker to have level even sound from both, with true stereo sound. Still not as good as Pixel 3 XL, but is it better than 6P? I think it is, I think it has fuller sound than 6P with this mod.
- Neither phones have headphone jack. But... But... With the USB-C dongle, BOTH phones on my headphones sound much better than 6P's headphone jack output. So... consider that, both 6T and Pixel 3 XL sound is better than 6Ps.
- Pixel 3 XL without doubt has the better camera. It does. I'm not a camera fanatic. But the porting of Gcam to 6T is going well. I'm using a port that works with all features, except it shoots 4mp for front camera, and oddly is still better than stock camera's front camera, weird. I had a lot of fun taking some impressive night pics with Pixel Cam on 6T enjoying the holiday festivities.
- Pixel 3 XL front camera CRUSHES the 6T. How often do I do a selfie? NEVER. Zero f***s from me.
- 6T has hardware options to toggle alarm settings, ring, vibrate, and silent. It is as amazing as everyone says, I use it daily. Pixel 3 XL does not, nope.
Software, 6T easily wins
OxygenOS... Yes, after using OxygenOS and then using Pixel 3 XL, well Pixel 3 XL felt the way I feel when I use Apple, angry. Why are you limiting me? Why can't I do this? Why can't I do that? Pixel 3 XL experience made me angry to use, after using OxygenOS and custom roms on 6P.
- OxygenOS has 3 navigation options. ALL three I prefer to Pixel 3 XL's. Amazing right? The one navigation option on Pixel 3 XL is inferior to any of the three provided on OxygenOS.
- I always change the batter to circle w/ %, yup, OxygenOS has that covered.
- Double tape to wake with face recognition? Hell yeah, faster and more convenient to use than fingerprint on 6P.
- No LED notifications on 6T and since I don't like ambient display, oh well.
- Gaming mode, reading mode, sort of gimicky, but I do use them, a lot. They are useful. Pixel 3 XL does not.
- Unsurprising, any app features on Pixel 3 XL I use on 6T. Had no issues replacing stock apps with Google apps. There are ZERO software features from Pixel 3 XL that I desire not on 6T. None, there are absolute no reason for me to desire a Pixel 3 XL over 6T in any way.
- Do I believe OxygenOS will be preferred by any 6P user who used custom roms? Most definitely. I would even go as far as, I believe majority of 6P owners using custom roms will be satisfied with OxygenOS and not use a custom rom.
- The 6T is a smoother experience and enjoyable experience than Pixel 3 XL. I really don't think that's up for debate. 8gb ram is overkill, but you can feel the difference compared to Pixel 3 XL 4gb.
Longevity
- I'm not interested in getting a new phone every year. 6T wins for this reason alone. The 8gb of ram with the 3700 mah batter future proofs this phone more than Pixel 3 XL. And you don't have to suffer the the worst designed phone of 2018 with the 6T. A year from now, I have little doubt, that massive notch and chin will be even more annoying and aggravating as 2019 and 2020 introduces completely bezel free phones that still have stereo speakers with superior cameras and sensors. Overall I 6T is the better option for long term use. Any software advancement on Pixel 3 XL will be available on the 6T and will perform better on the 6T.
I honestly believe Google failed miserably with the Pixel 3 XL. There are so many better phones than Pixel 3 XL this year. Oppo Find X, Samsung Note 9/Galaxy S9 Plus, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, and OnePlus 6T to me are all preferable to what Google offered Apple fans with Pixel 3 XL.
If camera is the reason to pay an extra $300? I think you're insane. Much better off paying for a $300 camera and a OnePlus 6T.
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
BelzIgoh said:
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
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Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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juan_carlos__007 said:
Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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Oh, guess I was wrong about that. Might be getting me one at some point.
I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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Humans can't see pixels at 300 PPI at safe distances to use. 6T is 402 PPI, it's well beyond retina or beyond capability of human eyesight. To see pixels, would have to use at distance that is damaging to your eyes. I have 20/20 without glasses and definitely cannot see pixels. If you can see pixels in normal use, I can only conclude you're a cyborg with beyond human eyesight.
Only time I see pixels is using VR and currently Google Daydream well... sucks. It's fun and promising, but it has a LONG ways to go.
For me, I'm dissappointed with OnePlus is the headphone jack and the early adoption of fingerprint. Since I believe OnePlus says headphone jack would not have prevented use of 3700 mah battery, it was the fingerprint reader. Oh well, every company makes blunders and mistakes, luckily these mistakes are easy to live with.
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
gorman42 said:
If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
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That's a good point. Thanks for the clarification. But:
14,16 x 7,12 x 0,78 (6P) vs.
15,75 x 7,48 x 0,82 (6T)
The entire size is still my main concern.
gorman42 said:
If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
zymphad said:
Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
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What's the actual mod called?
Hi,
who of you upgraded from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 6?
I got my Pixel 6 yesterday and compared the two phones.
I mean the display of the Pixel 2 XL is better than that of the Pixel 6, what do you think?
I find the color white on the Pixel 6 does not have such a good luminosity and therefore you can read the fonts better on the Pixel 2 XL in dark mode. Do you think so too?
In general, even when comparing apps, I find the dark colors of the Pixel 2XL darker and the light colors much brighter than the Pixel 6, which I like better and increases readability. Pixel 2 XL just looks more like luminosity OLED and Pixel 6 somehow a bit pale like an LCD. Also the 2 XL looks sharper.
Apart from that, I don't like the fingerprint scanner that much... It's a bit slow and I miss pulling down the notification bar on the back with it.
But in everything else I have to say a great upgrade. What is your opinion on Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel 6?
I noticed the same thing about the display. The pixel 2 xl has a nicer display with truer blacks. Another thing I noticed is the screen is almost exactly the same size as the 2xl. I'm happy with the pixel 6 device overall but the display is where they saved money to get that price point. I compared the same 1080p video on YouTube on both devices side by side and its very clear that skin tones and colors look more accurate to reality on the pixel 2 xl than the pixel 6. The pixel 6 colors seem dull in comparison.
I will miss the rear fingerprint sensor too but it's not as big of a deal for me as the display. Also be careful when using the new fingerprint sensor at night because the light it uses is very bright.
I upgraded from the 2XL. My question for the displays would be do you have the color setting the same on both displays so that you aren't comparing boosted on the 2xl compared to natural on the 6.
Yes, both set naturally. But it is also so, when Pixel 2 XL is set so naturally and Pixel 6 to adaptiv.
It is very hard to make a picture of that.
On Pixel 6 the white text is light grey and not clear white and the background on 2 XL is darker, so it is easyer to read text.
Maybe it is because Pixel 2 XL has QHD instead of FHD display and more pixels lighten up?
Just upgraded my 2XL to a 6. Couple of things I find annoying:
When I connect my BT headset, the phone still rings audibly. That caused embarrassment as I was presenting in a meeting today.
How do I get to my full list of apps quickly? On the 2XL, you swiped up from the bottom, but that's the home gesture, and even on the home screen, it doesn't pull up the apps.
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How do I get to my full list of apps quickly? On the 2XL, you swiped up from the bottom, but that's the home gesture, and even on the home screen, it doesn't pull up the apps.
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Just discovered this one: if you tap on the fingerprint sensor and swipe up, it pulls up the apps list.
I don't like the HUGE pull-down controls. I'm used to having 6 controls at the first pull-down. Now we only get 4. Any way to go to smaller buttons/icons?
I'm in the process of evaluating moving to the Pixel 6 Pro or Pixel 6. I'm sadley leaning toward the Pixel 6 so I don't have to deal with curved display. The Pixel 6 came in today. Currently rooted, but having issues getting the OS to update. :/
Cydras said:
Hi,
who of you upgraded from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 6?
I got my Pixel 6 yesterday and compared the two phones.
I mean the display of the Pixel 2 XL is better than that of the Pixel 6, what do you think?
<etc.> ...
But in everything else I have to say a great upgrade. What is your opinion on Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel 6?
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Yes, the display is not as high resolution as the 2XL. Fortunately, I made my choice knowing this because I compared specs. Remember, the 2XL was a $900 phone when it came out. Pixel 6 is $600 - considerably cheaper, and arguably much better. The Pro on the other hand, has a vastly superior display and is still cheaper than the 2XL was - and that is not factoring inflation!
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I don't like the HUGE pull-down controls. I'm used to having 6 controls at the first pull-down. Now we only get 4. Any way to go to smaller buttons/icons?
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The controls are the OS, not the phone. I'd wager there are configurations for the Pixel Launcher to modify that. I don't know because I switched to Nova (Prime) years ago, and it looks great on the new phone. everything is adjustable.
ddfault said:
I'm in the process of evaluating moving to the Pixel 6 Pro or Pixel 6. I'm sadley leaning toward the Pixel 6 so I don't have to deal with curved display. The Pixel 6 came in today. Currently rooted, but having issues getting the OS to update. :/
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I hoped that rooting and flashing would be easier on the 6, but sadly, that is not the case. There are other threads here that describe the root/update process. I was lucky since I got my phone right at the beginning of November, and the update came to my phone during initial setup.
Updates need to be side loaded due to verity re-enable on vbmeta, or you'll have a wipe with each update. There are instructions elsewhere around here.
I liked my 2XL, and will hold on to it as a backup/play phone as long as I can, but it is getting flakey. The camera stopped working in August, I have various apps that just refuse to launch, and worst of all, the charge port no longer consistently maintains a connection. Only a few select cables are usable. I hate when that happens.
I considered going for repairs, but for the camera alone it's around $170 with labor. Since I insist on rooting my phones, the Pixel 6 or Pro was pretty much my only reasonable option. So far, I'm happy with it.
I am a new owner of Pixel 6 Pro, previously with Pixel 2 XL. I will keep the 2xl for backup and international SIMs
I upgraded from the Pixel 2XL to a Pixel 4XL but ended up returning it as I did not want to deal with Face Unlock in the middle of the pandemic where I needed to wear a mask so i ended up getting a OnePlus 7 Pro instead. So far there are some things that is actually a downgrade from the Oneplus but overall I am happy with the Pixel 6. So far I dont think anything is wrong with it that cannot be fixed with a software update in the future. And we all know how quick Pixels get updates.
I'm in the mix to possibly buy a P6 , but I'm curious what phone you're leaving behind. Plus, how has the new phone compared or not?
Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu differences (coming from Android 10) and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI.
Pixel 3a XL. Nearly identical overall size, but the P6 screen is much bigger (smaller bezels) and nicer. Overall the camera performance is slightly better, but having the wide angle lens is really nice. I also believe that Google will continue to tweak the software for the new camera chip and make the performance better over time. The fact that they were able to match the performance of the older camera chip (that they have been tweaking on for 3+ years) on release day is pretty amazing.
I've always purchased mid-price phones. I simply cannot bring myself to spend $1000 or more on a phone that regardless of how good it is, will need to be replaced in a few years. The price difference between the Pixel "A" series phone and the P6 was small enough and the extra features of the P6 were good enough that I decided it was worth the extra money to buy the P6. I would not however spend the extra $$ on a P6P over a P6.
I'm 100% satisfied with my upgrade and would make the same decision again after using the P6 since release day.
PS - I have zero issues with the finger print reader. I'm not running a screen protector at this time (but would like to). I have only saved each finger once as well as there has been no need to save it multiple times. I probably have a 95% first scan success rate.
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Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu difference coming from Android 10 (and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI).
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Cool, you won't miss the bloatware
Lg Wing. Only because my hand was forced due to no more support. The phone itself was great. I hate Samsung and Apple. Motorola is basically garbage. One plus is too expensive for what I'm willing to pay, after a year on TMobile the 9pro was still above 1000. This left me with this phone as the only other reasonable choice. I am not the biggest fan so far.
Galaxy S20+.
OP8
Pixel 3... and I had a Nexus 6 before that. I love the carry size of the 3, but miss the screen of the Orca. The Pixel 6 is still narrower than the Nexus 6 was.
OP5
OP6T
Pixel 3a
OP6T
OP6T and OP8T. Great hardware. I was tired of waiting for updates.
P30 Pro. great phone but I'd broken screen, fprint reader and main mic. not economical to fix
From a OnePlus 6.
OP8
OP7T
Been rocking a Moto Z2 Force for quite awhile before this. One thing I find myself doing after owning Moto phones the past decade or so is the "chop-chop" flashlight activation. Was very convenient. Miss that feature. Oh, and it's uncrackable screen. It took a beating, got scared up...but never a crack.
pixel 5
Pixel 2.
I'll miss the size of the P2 and overall it was a solid 4 yrs of trouble free service. We'll see about the P6.