Seems like an obvious idea that Samsung missed but I thought it would be cool if when using the camera with the main screen, the front screen could also be on showing the person you're taking a photo of a live preview.
If Samsung is lurking here maybe we could see it an update.
Anyone else think this is a good idea?
I had a similar idea when I used my phone for vlogging, if I could open the fold and still use the front screen for the framing of the shot, it could be great... but I doubt Samsung would do it...
its a small screen for anyone to see from a proper distance away, but yes it would be an added benefit regardless.
but i agree with the previous user. i doubt samsung would do it.
i think there is too much concentration on the S11 and Fold 2 at the moment, i don't think they will add very many "quality of life" updates to the fold.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/themes/view-resolution-camera-unfolded-galaxy-t4110369
I have switch to use front screen with latest update and Camera app ver
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I see something there, but no way to access it. Just curious if it's really there and if we might see some functionality for it in the future at some point.
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I see something there, but no way to access it. Just curious if it's really there and if we might see some functionality for it in the future at some point.
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what are you talking about? if you mean the clear light in the speaker on the front, its just and lcd light i havent seen it do anything yet
1. No, it does not have a front facing camera. On some GSM models, the front facing camera is in the upper right corner. See attached pic.
2. I believe the clear plastic bit you are referring to may be the light sensor that triggers the screen to blank when you hold the phone up to your ear during a call.
The versions of this phone that were manufactured for use in the United States will not have the forward facing VGA camera.
I would assume that the reason for this is that camera is marketed as a video conferencing camera not only for taking those lovely MYSPACE self portraits (you know who you are). Since it would have to maintain a video call, I beleive this would constitute streaming which I beleive all of the carriers are dead set against us doing unless we are payng for their services to do it.
Just my opinion.
Yeah, I kind of figured it out after playing with it for a while. I had seen specs that said the VzW TP had the camera. AAMOF, I believe one of the places I looked was on the Wiki:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1547&view=1 - From the Raphael Variants specs link.
So I thought I'd ask.
The spot metering function on my camera seems to have stopped working. When you choose spot metering mode in the camera and use your finger to point at a bright object on the edge of the screen, the exposure does nothing. Samsung tech support confirmed that the exposure is supposed to be adjusted to that spot that you touched but it doesn't do it on my S3. It used to work but just stopped a couple of weeks ago. What's even stranger that some S3's seem to work fine but others also don't work - I tried whole bunch of them today in various stores and some work just fine but others don't work at all.Is yours broken?
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The spot metering function on my camera seems to have stopped working. When you choose spot metering mode in the camera and use your finger to point at a bright object on the edge of the screen, the exposure does nothing. Samsung tech support confirmed that the exposure is supposed to be adjusted to that spot that you touched but it doesn't do it on my S3. It used to work but just stopped a couple of weeks ago. What's even stranger that some S3's seem to work fine but others also don't work - I tried whole bunch of them today in various stores and some work just fine but others don't work at all.Is yours broken?
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Mine is broken as well, it only focuses. That's probably related to the fact that my manual exposure controls also don't work though.
It never occurred to me that spot metering should work according to the area you touch. I had always assumed that spot metering takes the reading from the centrer spot on the camera like a DSLR.
Mine only focuses, it does not meter the point that I touch.
Actually, this functionality has been there from the Galaxy S so it's nothing new or revolutionary!
I think that most people don't use the camera as anything more than a simple point and shoot, which is a pity because its easily as good as the iPhone 4S camera and perhaps even a bit better, and we all know the fuss people make about that.
There are a lot of users wandering around with broken cameras but no one seems to care, as you can tell from the number of responses to the original post!
I was always wondering why my S3 only does spot metering at the center spot. Is this a bug or a feature? I think my spot metering is broken but if it should work only at the center then it's fine. Can somebody clear this up?
I'm so glad someone else has this problem - not in a mean way. It's just infuriating me at the moment - was trying to take a sunset picture today and realised it wasn't working when I tapped on the different areas. Infuriating, but not sure how to fix!
same issue here... my Galaxy S does it wonderfully right with spot metering on the spot I touch... my S3 which has a far better cam miserably fails at spot metering and only takes the center average... so spot metering is just broken
Galaxy Note 2 has same camera hardware and software as the S3. My spot metering worked in the past while on the stock rom. I'm on a custom rom, Jedi rom, and it no longer works. This is a TW based rom so I'm surprised it doesn't work. But from what I'm hearing, users on stock firmware are having problems as well.
Thanks to those who stuck it out diagnosing and raising the level of awareness around this problem. Almost every thread I find has some long-winded helpful genius in it explaining to us how we don't understand what spot metering is and that there is no problem. Sometimes you have to be extremely persistent on the net or your problem will be buried by the highly motivated know nothings.
I hope this problem is figured out. I, for one, would NOT trade a faster camera against one with spot metering. These cameras have tiny sensors and will never be great (I have aps-c and full frames). The ability to expose a particular point properly with no regard for the rest of the frame is the only saving grace for these cameras with so narrow a dynamic range due to the small sensor.
I'm learning in this search that this is a big reason most people take poor pictures with camera phones. They don't know how to use the spot metering to mitigate (somewhat) the limitations of the small sensor. I'll report back when/if I find a solution.
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Galaxy Note 2 has same camera hardware and software as the S3...
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And guess what... SGS4 has the exact same issue with their cam!!! Can you believe it? I could for one not... When I was testing out the SGS4 in the phone store with stock firmware... it had no touch spot meter that would measure where I push... but the same dumb center weighted spot meter it has in SGS3 and NOTE2. I am disappointed Samsung... it has the best camera but without a proper spot meter. :crying::crying::crying:
I am starting to think this has been done intentionally to dumb things down a bit... or they have some patent issue with apple or someone else with their "touch to spot meter" tech... sigh... patents...
Sigh... I tried asking about this when I first got my GS3 back in October. Same thing.. I don't get how this hasn't been addressed. You can see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963959
I even contacted Samsung France where I am, Samsung USA, and even my mobile carrier and nobody could answer. The shameful thing was that Samsung's TECH SUPPORT didn't even know what I was talking about. I kind of gave up.
A trick for you guys which seems to have worked for me...
Ironically, before getting the GS3, the spot meter worked brilliantly on my HTC myTouch4G. You would touch a spot, wait for it to register with a beep and then wherever you moved, it locked in that exposure. Try this...
- point the screen to the place you want the exposure to be set for
- tap the screen there to focus
- only when you've seen it focus (green square) and heard it beep signaling exposure and focus lock, press and HOLD the shutter button and move to the framing you actually want
- let go of the shutter to take the picture
I have found that it takes one or two tries but it DOES work. You will see that the moment you let go of the shutter, it will go back to what the exposure would have been where you framed.
Feel free to ask questions if this doesn't make sense.
I can't get that to work. But I may not be following the instructions correctly. The beginning steps aren't clear for me.
Center the desired focal point on the screen then touch and lock that point. Then press and hold shutter. Then recompose picture. Then release shutter.
This doesn't work for me. Holding the shutter button doesn't lock the exposure.
Also wondering if this problem is hardware or software. I installed ProCapture app which is supposed to have spot metering which didn't work on my Galaxy Note 2. Just FYI.
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Hi guys! It's a pleasure for me to notice that other people are struggling for this problem!!!:high five:
I remember that my Samsung Wave 2 , with Bada 1.2, gave me amazing shots: the exposition were linked to the focus point. Then with Bada 2.0 all has changed and, independently from the metering method the exposure is alway always weighted at the centre of the image.
Ok one can make recomposition, but it takes minutes and a the results are not so brilliant.
Now I have a Lumia 620: same problem, i'm getting crazy!!
Does anybody knows the reason of this stupid choice??
i select spot-metering mode, point at my brightly sunlight desk, i click different areas of the screen and while focusing the colours seem to change saturation and "fill".. does this mean my metering is working?
Yeah! If the colors of the photo change on the basis of your taps on the screen, then you have the exposure that follows the AF point. You are very lucky!!
Notice that in many devices even if you choose spot metering, the spot is linked to a central point of the image!
But does it happen only with spot or also with other metering modes?
yep mine's broken too not sure if it worked before it fell on the floor but i highly doubt that it worked in the first place it's damn sad that the S3 is such a great phone but has a partly broken cam on 90% of the S3's and still they didn't fix it in the S4
Thank you so much for the quick fix
ive tried over 20 apps
messed around with 100's of setting..... no dice
tinpanalley, your tip is the only way yo make this work
this is by far THE WORST camera a phone could ever had, i feel very sorry for people who purchased the S3 for it's incapable camera.
and the funniest thing is that they screwed up the s4 camera as well, L O L
Coming from the Note 2, when I hit the button, it snapped right away. The S4 has a slight delay when you hit the button. Also I noticed the images look amazingly clear on the screen, yet comes out a bit blurry when you go to look at it. Anyone else have this issue....mainly the button delay.??
That's do to I believe the higher tech Auto-Focus
I notice the delay and also the worse image quality and yes I come from a note 2 as well. I notice if you get really close to something like a paper dollar and try and focus it can't. Where it could on the note 2.
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This camera is said to be far better than the Note 2. Grrrr!!
It takes good pics though....check this.!
I saw this too
This is an annoyance of mine as well. But coming from a photography background, I know why the pic is coming out blurry after the delayed shutter... Most times when people hit the button (and the phone is supposed to snap right away...) they have a tendency to move the phone or because of how hard they hit the screen to snap a pic, you are getting camera shake. Trust me, take a pic with the phone on the table and be as still as possible... You will get a crisp shot. And the camera is nice. Although I think the S3 is still tops. Has better noise cancellation in low light than this phone, because at ISO2000 its going to get pretty noisy!
It blows... I completely agree... and hope to god there is an update that fixes this, but after toying with it a bit, I've gotten used to the half sec delay and I am more conscious of being still when taking shots. Even when you have the phone sitting on a table or object, its still important to be as still as possible. Unfortunately the developers are tailoring after the burst shot as everyone's goto "mode" because they want you to use their features thinking "meh just take 10 shots and pic the best" which is STUPID. But unfortunately for any of us who just want to snap 1 good shot, you have to make the adjustment and deal with it until or if they release a fix. Maybe there is something in the source code that a dev can hack through and change the delay to 0. Until then, I feel your pain.
Am I the only person who is bothered by the amount of lens distortion you get on the Z2?
I sold the Z1 for that reason, and just when about to take a picture of my Note 3, when I wanted to put it up for sale, it shows the Z2 has just the same amount of distortion.
I'm attaching a picture taken with the Z2. Just check out the horizontal straight lines, in the Windows box and the monitor frame. It all bulges in and outwards.
I imagine my camera isn't the only one.
Why is nobody else bothered by this? Any fix for this?
It might be an optical illusion. If there is a lens problem why the phone's line are straight? Open in a photo editor and draw a line between the top and bottom corners of the box and see if there is an illusion or not.
The fix is lightroom or Photoshop hehe
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I'm no expert in photography, but I guess it's because you took a close shot. If you take pictures from more far away this won't be an issue anymore. If I remember correctly, this is an issue related to the small optical sensor.
I don't know if all phones nowadays suffer from this, but I'm sure the HTC One M7 did.
Usually the phone corrects this using software methods.
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I'm no expert in photography, but I guess it's because you took a close shot. If you take pictures from more far away this won't be an issue anymore. If I remember correctly, this is an issue related to the small optical sensor.
I don't know if all phones nowadays suffer from this, but I'm sure the HTC One M7 did.
Usually the phone corrects this using software methods.
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It's definitely no optical illusion, and Photoshop is also not quite the answer, as the distortion is quite irregular. I tried applying the lens distortion filter, but it won't come out right.
Straight lines at the left and right also slant towards the middle.
Small lens problem, yes. But that Galaxy Note 3 also has a small lens, and the problem there is far less pronounced. On top of that you get the blurriness in all the Z2 pictures.
I'm really quite disappointed. I sold the Z1 shortly after getting it for the same problems, I was optimistic that Sony had sorted the problem, but sadly that is not the case.
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It's definitely no optical illusion, and Photoshop is also not quite the answer, as the distortion is quite irregular. I tried applying the lens distortion filter, but it won't come out right.
Straight lines at the left and right also slant towards the middle.
Small lens problem, yes. But that Galaxy Note 3 also has a small lens, and the problem there is far less pronounced. On top of that you get the blurriness in all the Z2 pictures.
I'm really quite disappointed. I sold the Z1 shortly after getting it for the same problems, I was optimistic that Sony had sorted the problem, but sadly that is not the case.
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I have this problem too when shooting video as well as taking pictures. My Z1 and Z did not have this problem. It should be something that is corrected when the shot is taken but it seems it's not. I'll contact Sony as it seems only you and I here have this problem...
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I have this problem too when shooting video as well as taking pictures. My Z1 and Z did not have this problem. It should be something that is corrected when the shot is taken but it seems it's not. I'll contact Sony as it seems only you and I here have this problem...
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Mine seems ok but the corners are quite blurry which was also reported by some reviewers. Especially the left lower corner. A bit dissapointing compared to my previous phone the Galaxy S4. But I usually crop the photos anyway.
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Mine seems ok but the corners are quite blurry which was also reported by some reviewers. Especially the left lower corner. A bit dissapointing compared to my previous phone the Galaxy S4. But I usually crop the photos anyway.
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Go here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Help/Distortion.aspx and choose "WAVE DISTORSION", check if it looks like this when you are shooting something 40-50 cm or closer... you really should see it. I have the blurry corners too. Again Z and Z1 did NOT suffer from this problem. Hope to hear back from Sony but my complaint was their first but a friend of mine has the exact same problem.
Here's my test picture I've taken.
Looks like a typical case of pin cushion distortion.
I think it's pretty bad. What should I do?
I have two discussions to be made. Those are as follows:
1. The fragile display. Though the Moto E comes with a gorilla glass but it feels really fragile. Let me tell you how. Have you ever touched an LCD screen of a laptop or any non-touchscreen? Did you notice that when you touch it, you see "waves" emanating from the point where you touch. It feels like touching some liquid. This happens upon touching all LCD screens (which arent touchscreens). So the problem is, even the slightest of touch on the Moto E's display creates these waves especially at the center of the display and at the edges. Is this problem there with all moto e units or is it the problem of only my handset?
2. Well, everybody knows Moto E's camera is quite terrible. Is it possible to take sharp close up shots ? I often use my phone's camera for taking pics of pages from books and read them on the phone later. I took a pic of a page and the photo was blurred as hell. Could read nothing. So is there any hope with close up sharp shots?
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I have two discussions to be made. Those are as follows:
1. The fragile display. Though the Moto E comes with a gorilla glass but it feels really fragile. Let me tell you how. Have you ever touched an LCD screen of a laptop or any non-touchscreen? Did you notice that when you touch it, you see "waves" emanating from the point where you touch. It feels like touching some liquid. This happens upon touching all LCD screens (which arent touchscreens). So the problem is, even the slightest of touch on the Moto E's display creates these waves especially at the center of the display and at the edges. Is this problem there with all moto e units or is it the problem of only my handset?
2. Well, everybody knows Moto E's camera is quite terrible. Is it possible to take sharp close up shots ? I often use my phone's camera for taking pics of pages from books and read them on the phone later. I took a pic of a page and the photo was blurred as hell. Could read nothing. So is there any hope with close up sharp shots?
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Well for 1st question - The screen of my moto e is very solid didn't saw any waves
2- moto e camera is fixed focus so it can't focus on text sorry but taking pics of text pages will do you no good as it will lack focus.
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Well for 1st question - The screen of my moto e is very solid didn't saw any waves
2- moto e camera is fixed focus so it can't focus on text sorry but taking pics of text pages will do you no good as it will lack focus.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
1. So this means it's the problem with only my handset?! What the hell! Even the slightest touch creates those LCD display-like waves! What to do now?
2. Alas, I use the phone camera for only one purpose and I cant even perform that. Feels like I wasted my money. They said its "touch to focus" so I thought I wud need to touch the display and it'll focus automatically and take a pic.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
1. So this means it's the problem with only my handset?! What the hell! Even the slightest touch creates those LCD display-like waves! What to do now?
2. Alas, I use the phone camera for only one purpose and I cant even perform that. Feels like I wasted my money. They said its "touch to focus" so I thought I wud need to touch the display and it'll focus automatically and take a pic.
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1- I am confused how you are getting these waves its gorilla glass not some plastic, You can check with other members if they have some problem like this but I am sure no one will have that kind of problem so best is to get you moto e screen checked.
2- For camera, it's bad real bad for focusing on text (I know it I tried ) Its not touch to focus its touch to set exposure. I am sorry I am not able to help in camera department.
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1- I am confused how you are getting these waves its gorilla glass not some plastic, You can check with other members if they have some problem like this but I am sure no one will have that kind of problem so best is to get you moto e screen checked.
2- For camera, it's bad real bad for focusing on text (I know it I tried ) Its not touch to focus its touch to set exposure. I am sorry I am not able to help in camera department.
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1. I dunno whats the problem. I only get the waves at the center and at the edges of the display no matter wherever I touch it. As if the gorilla glass is somehow touching the main display inside! :/
2. Too bad I was mislead. This is a major setback for me.
Take it to service center
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2. Too bad I was mislead. This is a major setback for me.
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Umm, you bought the absolute cheapest smartphone and now you're surprised the camera sucks? Seriously?
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Umm, you bought the absolute cheapest smartphone and now you're surprised the camera sucks? Seriously?
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I never knew that a "fixed focus" camera existed. Every phone provides an auto focus cam (even cheap ones). I never knew there were cams which couldnt take close up shots and wasnt aware that Moto E's cam was one of them.
I'm thinking of buying a new phone. My budget is 10,500 INR. I want a tier-1 branded phone. Any suggestions?
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I never knew that a "fixed focus" camera existed. Every phone provides an auto focus cam (even cheap ones). I never knew there were cams which couldnt take close up shots and wasnt aware that Moto E's cam was one of them.
I'm thinking of buying a new phone. My budget is 10,500 INR. I want a tier-1 branded phone. Any suggestions?
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Go with Galaxy S Duos 2 S7582.....
As for the screen problem, I can vouch that my E doesn't have this problem neither any of my friends have this defect with E...
Ask FK for a replacement as soon as you can... FK provides a 30 days replacement warranty....
Even my phone creates waves on a small touch
not much at the edges, but at the center, the slightest touch creates waves. pressing it hard makes a whole lot of it
wonder what happens when its pressed hard while removing back cover
@parineeti Yeah, thinking of that one only. But RAM and GPU are a problem. Which is better? Adreno 302 or Broadcom Videocore IV?
@anil Exactly. Its mostly at the center n very less at the edges. i think this problem is there with most Moto E units, but most people dont notice it actually. Thank God I'm not the only one.
Not sure if I'm allowed to post on an old thread. But, I just got a white Moto E a few days ago and I have the exact same problem! When I first booted up my device and got onto the home screen, THE SLIGHTEST TOUCH cause a rainbow ripple on the center of the screen. It feels like I'm touching a hallowed piece of plastic device. Not sure if I'm going to send it back to Motorola for a "like-new" one or just live with it.
I have same issue with my screen also, I guess we have to live with it. [emoji29]
Sometimes it's so annoying.