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Hey guys, I'm returning from a recent trip to iPhoneland and I'm looking for the camera app that's closest to keeping up with the iPhone's camera.
I'm running cm11 and so far the best I've found is this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030
This one takes a lot better pictures than the stock cm or the google camera from the play store, but it still lags behind the iPhone.
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Alright that's what I was kind of afraid of. I know that there is a limit to how good the camera is going to be but I was hoping I hadn't found it yet. There is a significant variation between the different camera apps I have tried. It's too bad we can't use the camera to its full potential on aosp based roms.
I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
If you want some examples of what the G2's camera is capable of, look here:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/
You can find more info about Mi2raw (available on the Google Play Market, it's free) in the main thread for it and yes there's more pics too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/app-mi2raw-enables-capturing-real-raw-t2837089
Again, we're not dealing with the best image sensor ever made but I've been damned happy with the results I've been getting with my G2 because of Mi2raw (I just got this G2 like 3 weeks ago).
As far as other apps, I use Aviary (it was free a few days ago, with every single filter they had for free too so I grabbed it all and backed it up safely), PerfectlyClear which gave away their Android app for free last week (it's not too bad, actually), and Photoshop Express (which can load the DNG files directly on the G2 directly from Mi2raw for quick viewing).
There's also XCam LG which adds a lot of functionality to the G2 including giving it 4K video recording capability (just make sure to read the details in the thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
XCam LG has a settings app to tweak it further located on the Play Market as well, it's worth the price if you need it.
For me personally I just use Mi2raw for most every picture I snap these days then do editing/PP work when I get back home, it's what works best for me at this time.
Hope this helps...
Try Cymera. It's free and has good editing tools. Drawbacks are that it takes a bit to load and is not too stable. It's the only camera app that focuses correctly and has a proper white balance!!!! The resolution is small 1 Megapixel?, but the image is sharper and better than any 13megapixel shot from other camera apps or stock.
Otherwise just take the stock LG camera app as a daily driver.
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I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
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why would you disagree if its known that iPhone and Nokia use way better sensor and lenses? (and i'm not an iphone fanboy, far from that )
i didn't say that LG hardware is crap - i'm just saying that it's no match to those two... or to say it better - "close but no cigar"
Nokia & iPhone give much better low light images than LG (partly due to better sensor, partly due to smaller f-stop lens number which lets more light onto the sensor)
for comparison
LG G2 has F/2.4 lens < iphone/nokia use F/2.2 lens (smaller the f-stop, more light comes in)
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
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i didn't mention mi2raw app on purpose because it's not for everyone... and since i'm a photo hobbyist and DSLR owner, it gives me a bit of real camera world in a mobile device...
and what i like about mi2raw (besides its raw capability) is that the photos taken with that app don't look "painted" or "blurred" because of too much noise reduction that other camera apps produce
mi2raw would be too complicated to use for an average user... but hey - it's free, and everyone can try it and see
everything else you wrote - i second...
+ Snapseed is an image app worth mentioning especially with its ambiance setting that gives an image a nice "bump" in every way if it's used correctly...
personally i'm currently "stuck" with mi2raw, xdabbeb's XCam (because of those extra options you mentioned) and google camera (because it's the best for panorama/sphere images)
cheers...
In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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I did not know that thanks
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"a Better Camera" app is what I use on non stock Roms and it's very good. LG camera hardware is not that good? You make me laugh... Can IPhone camera record 4k?Does it have ois?
The only thing that iPhone is better at is the image processing. That's it. (period).
I use the G2's stock camera app on AICP. It's okay, but the images look washed out compared to my Optimus G.
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60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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again. it takes normal pics at full resolution, then there is a night mode which takes very very nice pics in dark situations at full resolution (better than almost any other phone out there) and then there is a special night mode that reduces pic resolution to 2 megapixels, but boy those night pics are the best I have ever seen.... Check this for example. and no worries about zenfone 5 camera being 8 megapixels. the zenfone 6 has 13 and same software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TPqwDYStI
so you still live in a world where more megapixels mean better images?
i.e. see why HTC went for lower mpx in its flagship devices...
about my "bullsh*t of the year"... do some reading and know some basics of the digital photography...
i never said that LG G2 camera is bad, read my post again & read hardware tech specs of the other devices...
i like the mi2raw app very much (see my posts there in the app thread) - it's the best thing that happened to this device considering the camera/photo...
and i think LG G2 camera hardware can do much more - especially on the strange "painted like" image compression effect which i hate so much...
i'd say - LG G2 is close, but no cigar
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
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Because of RAW the G2 is one of the top android cameras, that is true. However, the flagship Lumia devices also shoot RAW.
Yes I know, iphone can shoot RAW too, so android is behind somehow...
60nine: Ive read everything you've written, thats why I had to react. I know a lot about photography, HW a more, so Im OK. Thanks. And about pixels, even 8Mpx iphone camera is worse than 16Mpx SGN4 camera so give me a break...HTCs cameras are the worst from the biggest flagship manufacturers. HTCs cameras lags of detail and lost every shootout with competition. And I will tell you something, you will need at least 2160p for viewing on upcoming 4K display devices...so now the pixels matters. I know that more pixels suffers from dynamic range and more noise, but it will be hidden in more Mpx photo with good postprocess. So if you find comparison between IP6 and LG G2 in RAW at same settings and same scene and IP6 will be better, youll have my respect and appologies.
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i won't bother answering to a person who thinks more mpx means better images (on a same sized sensor), so cheers...
raw is not for an average users anyway
Has anyone been able to port Google's HDR+ algorithm on other phones, i.e. the G5?
In the end it's only a software processing and on my wife's Nexus 5X it works damn good, mostly putting my G5 to shame...
Did anyone successfully reverse-engineered it to port it on more camera hardwares??
Thanks.
This is the closest you will get
http://chromloop.com/
Unfortunately the zero shutter lag requires Android 7.1 and HDR+ is also disabled
lolmensch said:
This is the closest you will get
http://chromloop.com/
Unfortunately the zero shutter lag requires Android 7.1 and HDR+ is also disabled
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Thank you for the tip.
Is there a particular reason why HDR+ shouldn't be working for other cameras too? Isn't it just a software algorithm based on taking multiple pictures in rapid succession?
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Thank you for the tip.
Is there a particular reason why HDR+ shouldn't be working for other cameras too? Isn't it just a software algorithm based on taking multiple pictures in rapid succession?
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np mate.
it is actually rather complicated. you should probably be able to do hdr on our phones by idk maybe change build prop or similiar stuff. maybe even some libs are needed. it seems though that the 5x and 6p hdr+ isnt the real deal.
if you are more interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/57ukba/psa_google_camera_42_mod_on_5x6p_literary_bring/
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even hw accelerated hdr+ should work on our phones but we are missing people wanting/being able to port it I'd say (as well as 7.1.1 for all features)
lolmensch said:
np mate.
it is actually rather complicated. you should probably be able to do hdr on our phones by idk maybe change build prop or similiar stuff. maybe even some libs are needed. it seems though that the 5x and 6p hdr+ isnt the real deal.
if you are more interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/57ukba/psa_google_camera_42_mod_on_5x6p_literary_bring/
tl;dr:
even hw accelerated hdr+ should work on our phones but we are missing people wanting/being able to port it I'd say (as well as 7.1.1 for all features)
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Interesting one. In fact I tried this Camera NX both on my G5 and on the Nexus 5X of my wife and already uninstalled in both...
On the G5 it does absolutely nothing.
On the 5X it is supposed to use HDR+ with ZSL, but actually doesn't. The photos come out much worse than with the stock camera. I don't understand why people claim it works...
I wish someone could make the Pixel's HDR+ work on the Snapdragon 820 and make it available for all smartphones using that chipset, which are quite many and nice ones.
The current HDR mode on the G5 is good for an alternative
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The current HDR mode on the G5 is good for an alternative
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It's crap, if you're not directly in perfectly lit room or area you'll get lag while it takes the three shots
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It's crap, if you're not directly in perfectly lit room or area you'll get lag while it takes the three shots
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... and everything blurry.
This camera may even be very good hardware, but the software makes it unusable in most situations where everything isn't very still. A bit disappointing.
Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
elosito said:
Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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This sounds great. Would be very appreciative if you posted it.
elosito said:
Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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sounds great. wait for your good news
elosito said:
Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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Please post!! Much appreciated
Apologies for the delay -- I'm working up to my total of 10 posts so that I can share the file with you all. Give me just a few minutes (and forgive this short post that is helping me reach 10!)...
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Okay, just worked myself up past ten posts so that I can share a link with you all: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I hope that this works as well for enabling HDR+ on the G5 as it does on my Moto Z! Please let me know how it goes when you try it.
I had install the apps and it had HDR+ option in it
but once I take the photo with HDR+ auto or HDR+ on , the photo come out like it blur and just 1.XX MB
and if i take the photo with HDR+ Off , the photo will just back to normal
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Apologies for the delay -- I'm working up to my total of 10 posts so that I can share the file with you all. Give me just a few minutes (and forgive this short post that is helping me reach 10!)...
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Okay, just worked myself up past ten posts so that I can share a link with you all: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I hope that this works as well for enabling HDR+ on the G5 as it does on my Moto Z! Please let me know how it goes when you try it.
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This is what I got all on default settings (HDR + with highest res)
Seems low res and blurry. Thanks for attempting this! Hope you get it
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This is what I got all on default settings (HDR + with highest res)
Seems low res and blurry. Thanks for attempting this! Hope you get it
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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I have the same results. H830 T-Mobile G5 on 7.0.
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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Hey bud, I'm in on H831 on 7.0. Hopefully you can work some magic and get it working. Best of luck !
H850 with 7.0 stock rooted same results. It is odd as it is basically the same hardware besides the imaging sensor. I have the impression that it refocuses after the first picture for HDR leaving it blurry after stitching together
Huh. I tried it out on the V20 and same blurry result. The 6p uses an IMX377 while the Pixel uses an IMX 378. The G5 uses an IMX234 and the V20 uses an IMX298. I wonder if the sensors in use have anything to do with it, too?
Hello everyone,
I consider buying Mate 10 pro and I am torn by many of the posts here about the phone / live review results.
After reading many good reviews I have now few doubts and would like to make a post that will gather your (those who own Mate 10 / pro) experience with the phone.
I am obvisouly aware there are already reports on such topics in the live review section but I believe (and hope) that stuff have changed due to the AI learning the user
daily uses and Huawei updates.
Few key features / questions I personally would love to hear from you about are:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
yotam2010 said:
Hello everyone,
I consider buying Mate 10 pro and I am torn by many of the posts here about the phone / live review results.
After reading many good reviews I have now few doubts and would like to make a post that will gather your (those who own Mate 10 / pro) experience with the phone.
I am obvisouly aware there are already reports on such topics in the live review section but I believe (and hope) that stuff have changed due to the AI learning the user
daily uses and Huawei updates.
Few key features / questions I personally would love to hear from you about are:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
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1) Yes, so far only works with Huawei apps
2)Yes
3)Never encountered these issues, no lag or overheating here, not even when charging.
4)Never had this problem
5)All working fine here (5Ghz wifi too). GPS is fast and accurate. I don't use Bluetooth very often, but i did some tests with file transfer and headset, no problem here.
I could answer from the 3rd point
No overheat at all and performance is really good only some minor stutter every now and then like every Android phone
GPS and wifi and Bluetooth are always working correctly for me
I don't encounter YouTube problem at all.
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I want to update that I just received firmware 128 from a couple of hours ago and till now even any small stutter is gone :laugh::good:
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1) Yes, so far only works with Huawei apps
2)Yes
3)Never encountered these issues, no lag or overheating here, not even when charging.
4)Never had this problem
5)All working fine here (5Ghz wifi too). GPS is fast and accurate. I don't use Bluetooth very often, but i did some tests with file transfer and headset, no problem here.
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I could answer from the 3rd point
No overheat at all and performance is really good only some minor stutter every now and then like every Android phone
GPS and wifi and Bluetooth are always working correctly for me
I don't encounter YouTube problem at all.
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I want to update that I just received firmware 128 from a couple of hours ago and till now even any small stutter is gone :laugh::good:
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Thank you both for your answers, gives me some comfort!
Sadly, I believe there is no current "perfect" phone in the market and I am having real trouble deciding if to go for the Galaxy S8, htc u11+ or Huawei mate 10 pro.
Is there any bugs / cons on Huawei mate 10 pro software that should be highlighted in your opinion?
Honestly I understand your question and in the same time, I'm bored about these questions...
Phone is very great... Best phone I have ever had...
Not overheating incredible battery life and marvelous experience... For me.
Of course, it isn't perfect. As any phone..
Read reviews and decide...
Cheers
I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
Sammae7 said:
I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
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Yes it does, to scroll in the gallerie, and open and close notification/shorcuts tray
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Not an AMOLED fan.
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WTF !!!! Oo I've always been in love with amoled
yotam2010 said:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
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It's my first Huawei, and I've read a lot also before buying it, and I've been happily surprised:
3- I never got it hot (netflix for hours ....). I got it "warm" and I insist on warm because it really wasn't hot (especially compared to my previous phones) once when I was doing google Duo + fast charging. And about the lags, nope.
4- Never got this issue.
5- Bluetooth, wifi (5ghz, 2,4ghz, hotspot...). For the GPS I only used it in Hong-Kong atm, and with the ****ing density of buildings, it was not really accurate, but not worse than the other phones. Once outside the city it was working very well.
For the other things :
- The rear camera is very good ! I will need a tripod for night shoots, because in night mode (or manual) you can increase the shutter time.
- I really like EMUI (usually I always flash cyanogen/lineage)
- The infrared : I noticed that I use it all the time to control my AC and TV ^^
- The sound could be better : you easily block it with your hands, and what they call "stereo" ... is quite bad because the other speaker is not as loud as the one at the bottom.
yotam2010 said:
Thank you both for your answers, gives me some comfort!
Sadly, I believe there is no current "perfect" phone in the market and I am having real trouble deciding if to go for the Galaxy S8, htc u11+ or Huawei mate 10 pro.
Is there any bugs / cons on Huawei mate 10 pro software that should be highlighted in your opinion?
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If you like snappy smooth phones don't go for the Sammy from my opinion
I was always a Samsung user for many years till the s7edge and then switched to Mate 9 then now mate 10 pro
While Samsung phones are great but they can't be compared to Huawei in 2 things mainly the battery life and speed/smoothness of operation and animations ect..
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I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
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No the fingerprint scanner does not do all the functions as the normal mate 10 but we have something called navigation dock and it's floating anywhere you like on screen and it do the same exactly so you can hide the keys and make use of all this great 18:9 screen :laugh:
Mohamad Gahed said:
No the fingerprint scanner does not do all the functions as the normal mate 10 but we have something called navigation dock and it's floating anywhere you like on screen and it do the same exactly so you can hide the keys and make use of all this great 18:9 screen :laugh:
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You're right, I forgot to mention it : the navigation dock is a GREAT idea ! no screen surface wasted ! I love it.
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
I love the phone. I compared it to top of the line Samsungs at the store and I like the way it looks/feels better. Also Samsungs have ridiculously long shape and have much smaller battery.
Overall impression:
-- Very appealing to look at and hold. It is a bit slippery without a case because both sides are glass, but it comes with a very thin transparent soft plastic case which gives it a much better grip.
-- Camera blows my previous phone out of the water but not as good as a consumer grade DSLR. Low light pictures are sharp and crisp.
-- No headphone jack but comes with a pair of USB-C phones in the box.
This is my second HUAWEI device (first one was Honor Note 8 and it got stolen). I keep coming back to Huawei because of excellent build quality and very long battery life.
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
- Mine does not have an always-on display.
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
I have not seen such notification. I touch the fingerprint circle on the back side and it immediately shows icon screen or whatever app was open last.
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Mine is always cool to the touch. I would not know what happens during intense videogames as I don't play em.
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Will try it and update.
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
Bluetooth and GPS do. For me Wifi does not work well with 2.4 Ghz routers, although I get 120 Mbps on the 5 Ghz band. It looks like no one else has this issue so I will try to return and replace the phone with identical one. Also it appears to be a software glitch so might be fixed with an update.
Sorry if I'm posting this to the wrong place, but I just found out that the A8 can actually shoot video at the same resolution as pictures. I don't know if this has any side effects, but so far it does work!
OpenCamera actually removes resolutions above a certain level because a bug on the Nexus 6, but I built a custom version for the A8 (and other devices as well) that disables this feature.
I also enabled using the flash while using manual ISO and exposure, since it's also disabled because of a bug that doesn't exist on the A8.
Open Camera is not created by me, the official website for it is here!
I just modified it to do the stuff above.
So, steps to record in over 4k resolution:
Download and install the modified Open Camera attached (delete old one if installed)
Start the app and go to settings.
Enable Camera 2 API
Set the video resolution to whatever you want!
Voilla, you have a 4k capable phone camera!
Tested on AOSPExtended 6.5 on pie vendor, and HavocOS 2.7 on oreo vendor.
If for some reason this was already known then sorry, I didn't find anything regarding this.
Note: The apk is an unsigned, debug apk.
Source included in zip (because of license). It's pretty much just a few lines commented out, so I didn't bother using git.
EDIT:
IMPORTANT
As I found out (thanks tho Athaxis and Samsungoogle for bringing it up!) this "mod" doesn't properly work on OneUI based roms!
It does do something to an extent, but anything above 3264x2448 doesn't work. This is the highest you can go on OneUI.
Also (thanks to Samsungoogle for noticing this, again!) apparently the OneUI Samsung Gallery/Video viewer can't play videos created this way! You can use other video players though!
I don't know if it works on older Samsung ROMs or not, but it did work on treble, specifically AOSPExtended 6.5.
There I was able to use the full 16MP (4608x3456) resolution for videos!
Please let me know what ROM this mod works on!
Only one word: FENOMENALE (A8 2018)
Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
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Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
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Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
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Thanks, and now that I tried it with an OneUI based ROM, I realized, it doesn't work with it, only the 7.99mp one. If you want even higher resolution recordings, it works better with treble gsis (at least I was able to record at the full resolution of the camera on AOSPExtended 6.5 GSI).
Thanks for the feedback tho, I wouldn't have realized this without you!
I'm adding this to the main thing.
What about 1080p 60fps?
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What about 1080p 60fps?
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I think it's locked at 30fps from the system or something as we don't have slo mo (which uses like 240fps) while other devices with same camera module and worse CPU (A40, A30) have it. It would be cool if there is a way to enable 60+FPS video thoush
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well behind the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
EverLost123 said:
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well above the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
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Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
For another example the ancient and slow iPhone 6 with 1gb ram can do 1080p 60 and 720 at 240fps. That is on the level of budget phone CPU power now, and yet it can do this?
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Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
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Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step behind the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
EverLost123 said:
Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step above the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
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Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
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Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
Trying to save the Galaxy a8 2018
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Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
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Hi bro, and guys, anyone got any solution for our A8 camera? I think a very good smartphone, but the camera could be better, I miss 60fps, is there any possible solution to this? I saw some posts here on xda about other devices that did not have 60fps and use Exynos, but I do not understand anything to develop.
Please, let's try saving this smartphone.
Here is the link from some of the posts I found.
sorry for my bad english.
let's try to save this device
links: https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-4k60fps-video-exynos-samsung-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-s8/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/galaxy-s8-exynos-4kfps-root-tested-t3846415
Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
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Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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But it has an SD card slot.
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But it has an SD card slot.
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Yeah true but Samsung uses every excuse they have to destroy this phone they hate so much for no reason whatsoever
maybe im just missing it, but i can't download the file,could anybody help me?
where is the download link ??
Hi
I purchased the LGV40 a month ago, and I'm looking to install gcam
Where can I find the best link on this website?
Is it compatible with the pixel 3 camera app?
I send me whats app mag i provide u gcam link
What?
I get an unintelligible and dodgy looking response that I think asks for my WhatsApp which also means phone number which is unnecessary
I'm getting pissed off now
sandeepkhatri said:
I send me whats app mag i provide u gcam link
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Try this 6.2.030. v2.2https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
Or
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-xtrme/
Xbeta10 not 11
Thanks a lot I'll try it out
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Try this 6.2.030. v2.2 https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
Or
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-xtrme/
Xbeta10 not 11
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Well second link didn't quite work for me gonna try the first
Edit: First Link for the win
Go with arnova's port. Seems to work best. Use the 6.1 version though as the 6.2 seems to be missing the option to switch from standard to wide cam (no tele option so far afaik). You will want to enable buffer fix and night sight 8.1 alternate mode to get rid of laggy viewfinder though. Ignore the load config thing as it doesn't work or just causes the app to fc.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/#apk1023
edit: 6.1 version does switch to tele lens. use the long press switch option. Switch to tele by long pressing the gallery / thumb circle instead of the cam switch (which long press switches to wide). the cam switch changes colors - blue : standard, purple : wide, red : tele
Hello,
i'm very interested to buy the LG V40, but i need that at least one version of Gcam works well.
So, the Arnova's 6.1 works well on both cameras ( rear and front ) with HDR+ enabled ?
No lags or other problems ?
Gcam is better then stock Camera ?
Thanks to all !!
Ram666ram said:
Hello,
i'm very interested to buy the LG V40, but i need that at least one version of Gcam works well.
So, the Arnova's 6.1 works well on both cameras ( rear and front ) with HDR+ enabled ?
No lags or other problems ?
Gcam is better then stock Camera ?
Thanks to all !!
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Yes, there are some quirks here n there but it generally works as it should. It does lag but the fixes in the app will sort those out. Alternatively you can use the cstark version. Also works but I find the arnova build switches lenses quicker.
Is it better? If you need to print them pix in humongous sizes, then yes. gCam has better detail retention than stock. If it's just for keeps and regular human sized prints, the LG one does the job fine. It's way faster and more responsive than a ported app. Only plus I can give the gCam over the LG one is NightSight. It's just simply better but also slower.
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Yes, there are some quirks here n there but it generally works as it should. It does lag but the fixes in the app will sort those out. Alternatively you can use the cstark version. Also works but I find the arnova build switches lenses quicker.
Is it better? If you need to print them pix in humongous sizes, then yes. gCam has better detail retention than stock. If it's just for keeps and regular human sized prints, the LG one does the job fine. It's way faster and more responsive than a ported app. Only plus I can give the gCam over the LG one is NightSight. It's just simply better but also slower.
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Thank you !
I've not found a Gcam Developer LG V40 owner, maybe a problem about solving lags, freezes and many other app problems .......
My wife use Gcam port on a Nokia 7 Plus ( Snapdragon 660 ), but is fast and stable.
I'd like to have a fast Gcam also on LG V40, i need a phone with wide angle camera and Microsd, and LG V40 seems perfect for me..... LG V30 has a good Gcam porting, but is older and with smallest camera sensors ...
What do you think about battery ? Is good enough to cover one day ?
Ram666ram said:
Thank you !
I've not found a Gcam Developer LG V40 owner, maybe a problem about solving lags, freezes and many other app problems .......
My wife use Gcam port on a Nokia 7 Plus ( Snapdragon 660 ), but is fast and stable.
I'd like to have a fast Gcam also on LG V40, i need a phone with wide angle camera and Microsd, and LG V40 seems perfect for me..... LG V30 has a good Gcam porting, but is older and with smallest camera sensors ...
What do you think about battery ? Is good enough to cover one day ?
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I've using gCam ports for a while on multiple phones and now with the V40, I finally get the feeling that I don't need gCam that much anymore. With good light, the LG stock cam produces better pictures than a gCam port. They're better exposed and have more pleasing colors. Detail retention isn't a problem since I don't need to see every single Only reason it's still installed is for NighSight. Simply because the black magic google uses for it can't be beat.
Battery life isn't as good as the V30 but decent. Survives an entire day but with very little to spare at the end.
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Go with arnova's port. Seems to work best. Use the 6.1 version though as the 6.2 seems to be missing the option to switch from standard to wide cam (no tele option so far afaik). You will want to enable buffer fix and night sight 8.1 alternate mode to get rid of laggy viewfinder though. Ignore the load config thing as it doesn't work or just causes the app to fc.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/#apk1023
edit: 6.1 version does switch to tele lens. use the long press switch option. Switch to tele by long pressing the gallery / thumb circle instead of the cam switch (which long press switches to wide). the cam switch changes colors - blue : standard, purple : wide, red : tele
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neocyke said:
Yes, there are some quirks here n there but it generally works as it should. It does lag but the fixes in the app will sort those out. Alternatively you can use the cstark version. Also works but I find the arnova build switches lenses quicker.
Is it better? If you need to print them pix in humongous sizes, then yes. gCam has better detail retention than stock. If it's just for keeps and regular human sized prints, the LG one does the job fine. It's way faster and more responsive than a ported app. Only plus I can give the gCam over the LG one is NightSight. It's just simply better but also slower.
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Hi Neocyke thanks for the reply
I'm not sure exactly which APK your referring to on the list (I'm assuming it's a 2019 one)
I'm in Peru ATM but live in Sydney, so I'm going to post lots of photo comparisons on here
Some in Iquitos and Cusco in Peru and also in Sydney
I'm going to compare 4 apps - the lgv30 with cstark pixel 2 gcam, LGV40 stock, and two other gcam mods for the LGV40
Again thanks for your help
Hi again Neocyke
I found another APK last month and it seems to be a really good one
LGN_MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v4F-san1ty-final.apk
Your a lot more knowledgeable than me on these things it would be good if you could look into it and try it out and give me your feedback back, I'd really appreciate that
Formless said:
Hi again Neocyke
I found another APK last month and it seems to be a really good one
LGN_MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v4F-san1ty-final.apk
Your a lot more knowledgeable than me on these things it would be good if you could look into it and try it out and give me your feedback back, I'd really appreciate that
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Find the telegram channel by searching "LG v40 thinq" . There is an apk and config messaged there which works best for me (with stable nightshot etc.)
Has anybody tried installing 7.0.009 ports by Urnyx05 or Parrot043?
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Has anybody tried installing 7.0.009 ports by Urnyx05 or Parrot043?
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I think these ports are for Android 10 only
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I think these ports are for Android 10 only
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7.1.009, 7.2.011, and 7.2.014 are Android 10 only. 7.0.009 can be used both on Pie and Android 10.
I've been trying out different builds, running Havoc 3.0. I haven't had any luck on any 7.0-7.2 build at all. All crash on start.
6.1.021 version worked for me correctly . google playground and avengers stickers also working
neocyke said:
Go with arnova's port. Seems to work best. Use the 6.1 version though as the 6.2 seems to be missing the option to switch from standard to wide cam (no tele option so far afaik). You will want to enable buffer fix and night sight 8.1 alternate mode to get rid of laggy viewfinder though. Ignore the load config thing as it doesn't work or just causes the app to fc.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/#apk1023
edit: 6.1 version does switch to tele lens. use the long press switch option. Switch to tele by long pressing the gallery / thumb circle instead of the cam switch (which long press switches to wide). the cam switch changes colors - blue : standard, purple : wide, red : tele
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Thank you for this info! This and learning to install the config file makes this an awesome port. EDIT: Is there a similar trick to choosing which front facing camera to use? I tried the same and it just changes it between front and back. Thanks!