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The only reason I want to upgrade from an S3 right now, to either the S4 or the G2, is due to the larger screen size. The N3 is a little big so it seems these two are the only logical options.
I upgraded from the Galaxy nexus to the S3 purely due to the fact that it did not WASTE screen real-estate on black and white static icons. Frankly that is the absolute stupidest use of the screen there is. Samsung has it right by continuing to keep the buttons off screen.
So, the only way the G2 fits the bill (for probably many people) is if one of the following two solutions can exist:
1. The nav bar is totally transparent. The buttons still register when you tap there, but when browsing or watching video, the frame or text completely spills behind the buttons as if they don't actually take up space. Still not ideal.
2. The buttons are taken off screen fully and remapped to the rear HW keys. One volume key can be the back button, and the other can be the home button, etc. To change the volume, you gotta drag the software slider. Not a problem. I believe there are many button remapping apps in the market. Anyone tried this?
Is there an app to do these things? Can this feature be built into a ROM? For solution number 1, the nav bar can be hidden using a feature like PA has, and an app can just have a virtual transparent button floating where the original ones were. This app might also just exist in the android market.
Can we work on getting the entire screen area useful on this large phone?
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The only reason I want to upgrade from an S3 right now, to either the S4 or the G2, is due to the larger screen size. The N3 is a little big so it seems these two are the only logical options.
I upgraded from the Galaxy nexus to the S3 purely due to the fact that it did not WASTE screen real-estate on black and white static icons. Frankly that is the absolute stupidest use of the screen there is. Samsung has it right by continuing to keep the buttons off screen.
So, the only way the G2 fits the bill (for probably many people) is if one of the following two solutions can exist:
1. The nav bar is totally transparent. The buttons still register when you tap there, but when browsing or watching video, the frame or text completely spills behind the buttons as if they don't actually take up space. Still not ideal.
2. The buttons are taken off screen fully and remapped to the rear HW keys. One volume key can be the back button, and the other can be the home button, etc. To change the volume, you gotta drag the software slider. Not a problem. I believe there are many button remapping apps in the market. Anyone tried this?
Is there an app to do these things? Can this feature be built into a ROM? For solution number 1, the nav bar can be hidden using a feature like PA has, and an app can just have a virtual transparent button floating where the original ones were. This app might also just exist in the android market.
Can we work on getting the entire screen area useful on this large phone?
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I had the same mentality as you before deciding on the G2. There is a solution.
You will have to ROOT first.
GMD Auto hide app. This app will completely hide the software keys. They only appear when you swipe up from the very bottom of the screen.. or just tap the very bottom of the screen. You chose that in settings. The software keys can be made transparent as well.
Im currently using the app and love it. Works perfectly.
Without root... i dont think there is a solution.
I just use the navbar mod that shrinks the navbar down to either half or a third of the size. That way they take up hardly any screen at all.
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I had the same mentality as you before deciding on the G2. There is a solution.
You will have to ROOT first.
GMD Auto hide app. This app will completely hide the software keys. They only appear when you swipe up from the very bottom of the screen.. or just tap the very bottom of the screen. You chose that in settings. The software keys can be made transparent as well.
Im currently using the app and love it. Works perfectly.
Without root... i dont think there is a solution.
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I've used the Xposed Module - Ultimate Dynamic Navbar (available on play store). Looked to have more customization options than GMD (can have up to 7 buttons on the nav bar, for example, and more options for configuring long press of the buttons). But anyway, overall concept is the same as GMD.
And so far, i am loving it. Nice to have the full screen real estate at all times.
And root is so damn easy on this phone.
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I've used the Xposed Module - Ultimate Dynamic Navbar (available on play store). Looked to have more customization options than GMD (can have up to 7 buttons on the nav bar, for example, and more options for configuring long press of the buttons). But anyway, overall concept is the same as GMD.
And so far, i am loving it. Nice to have the full screen real estate at all times.
And root is so damn easy on this phone.
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I considered Xposed as well... but i thought that method just let you adjust/resize and theme the soft buttons.. but i wanted to completley hide them and have them reappear with a touch/swipe of my finger and then go away again. Xposed can do that as well? I just took a quick glance at the thread and figured it couldnt.
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I considered Xposed as well... but i thought that method just let you adjust/resize and theme the soft buttons.. but i wanted to completley hide them and have them reappear with a touch/swipe of my finger and then go away again. Xposed can do that as well? I just took a quick glance at the thread and figured it couldnt.
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The xposed module Ultimate Dynamic Navbar can do all that.
it's on play store, but i just found it here on XDA. Note to self - remember to ALWAYS check xda first before you pay! although, i like the app so far, so it's worth the money.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270198
EDIT : One note - on the G2, I've found you have to use another Xposed module (like g2 xposed or gravity box) to hide the stock nav bar first. At least right now.
I'm already using G2 xposed to remove the volume slider in drop-down, and for transparent status bar, so I already had it to make this change.
I love the software buttons because you can customize them and have various animations and actions. I agree with the wasted space but I root and download "tex_Droider" from the Play Store and change the DPI down from 480 to 400. This will make everything smaller and more roomier... including the Nav Bar.
Then I downloaded Flashify and TWRP Custom recovery. Flashed with Flashify.
I downloaded a Smaller Nav Mod. I used the "Medium" size since I already lowered the DPI. You can use the small size too if you want it really small. Boom.
I've played with hiding the navbar and using gestures and also that PA mod. I dunno just doesn't work for me. I use those buttons a lot and adding a swipe each time is a pain. Personally I wouldn't mind just having a transparent bar across ALL apps.
With ya player911, wound just using small nav bar. Wish I could add a couple more apps to the stock home swipe out.
With the G nexus I've tried making the nav bar about half. It worked except for the occasional mis-tap. Still it was annoying to have it cover up screen - on top of all of these options, can the nav bar be made transparent? I figure apps would have a hard time realizing what's going on so a solution would go something along the lines of first removing the nav bar to make every app draw full screen, and then adding a module that would create false transparent buttons simply overlaying the screen content at all times, rather than having a swipe or some other gesture pull the nav bar up or down. The false buttons could be in the very corners of the screen so as to not likely cover anything up.
The thing I like about the S3/4 is in dark conditions where you are being more tactile with the phone/case (I turn my softkey backlight off totally) your thumb rests on the edge of the case and rolls over to tap the softkey. It wouldn't be an issue to get used to the position of this virtual softkey by adopting the same behavior, it's just a matter of whether an app exists that will draw repositionable virtual transparent mappable "area" on the screen that would correspond to a button.
Don't think you're going to find one. Every app/game is different, so who is to say that where you place your "always there" transparent buttons won't interfere with an actual area you need to tap inside an app, game, etc. Even in the corners.
I would again suggest trying the auto-hide mods mentioned above. They do exactly what you are describing with the overlay, except you have to swipe or tap to bring it up.
Swiping is really not that big a deal. Ultimate dynamic navbar gives you the ability to swipe right to a button, so your finger never has to come off the screen. It's very fluid.
You could also try PIE. But what I like about the auto hide nav bar mods is that you can set the nav bar to toggle, so it stays up if you need to press nav bar buttons a bunch of times in a row. With PIE (at least when I last used it), you have to swipe for every button press.
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I don't even know what to say...
The Navigation Drawer has got to be one of the best UI designs in Android... and now the youtube app has removed it.
"Slide, Scroll, Tap" has now turned into
"Tap, Tap, Tap, Back, Tap, Tap Tap, Back, Tap" .....
Why... why on this good green earth would they ruin the application like this?
Is Google going to drop the Navigation Drawer? In all seriousness if this is true (And I didn't know about it) then I am just done with Android... I just cannot put up with another "Change for the sake of change" that ruins the innovation.
Anyone have more information on their official stance with the Navigation Drawer Ui element?
I am at a loss for words... this is as bad as removing the start button from Windows... just... why? Why would you remove the best UI navigation tool?
I cannot understand.
It is indeed a little perplexing why they changed that due to the nav drawer being such an integral part of almost every one of their other apps. We will have to wait and see how this plays out, and whether its a single app thing or not. That said, the new control over notifications from specific channels is much better.
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It is indeed a little perplexing why they changed that due to the nav drawer being such an integral part of almost every one of their other apps. We will have to wait and see how this plays out, and whether its a single app thing or not. That said, the new control over notifications from specific channels is much better.
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Right but why not improve things and keep the Navigation Drawer? I keep reinstalling an old version because this "new UI" keeps auto updating even without updating the application.
Ugh. I am in a point where I am needing to get a different device to replace a failing one...and if Google is dropping their advanced layouts and UI navigation for "Apple simple" ones, then I am done with android. I just cannot handle any more stupidity.
I get this randomly. It seems to happen the most when I have SwiftKey open and it always happens when I search within the app drawer. I switched launchers (tried lawn chair and rootless pixel) and I see the same thing.
The buttons are there, I can click them but they just vanish and it looks horrible.
Pic attached.
I guess I should also say that enabling full screen gestures works around this but that has its own set of problems for me, namely that I keep missing the space bar when using the keyboard and that the back gesture doesn't scale up from the keyboard so I keep going back when swiping.
Edit: I've confirmed that the problem is Swiftkey. The default Google keyboard doesn't have this problem but it isn't nearly as good. It'll do for now I guess...
I have the same issue. I tried installing navbar apps, but it doesn't work. Is there any way to set gboard to add a space automatically after a period or a comma? One of the many tine differences I prefer SwiftKey over Gboard, but this navbar bug is making me make the switch.
Is it possible to change the diagonal gesture from Google assistant to something else?
I really like gesture navigation, especially because of screen space, and there's no minimize function in the 3 button navigation which isn't great.
Anyway, would be great to modify the gesture or somehow add the minimize functionality to the 3 button navigation.
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Is it possible to change the diagonal gesture from Google assistant to something else?
I really like gesture navigation, especially because of screen space, and there's no minimize function in the 3 button navigation which isn't great.
Anyway, would be great to modify the gesture or somehow add the minimize functionality to the 3 button navigation.
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I have been using a Magisk module to hide the swipe gesture bar entirely on mine, and had previously used 3 buttons as well (using the gesture because then floating Gboard has more room and no forced space on the side for 3-buttons even when hidden) via "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S), have it set to fully hide the gesture bar, and have been relying on "Xposed Edge Pro" for my actual gesture navigation and customizing of it, since I've changed my Moto G Power 2021 into a Watch (modified build prop to force landscape even by system apps and more ). So have Riru and Lsposed naturally via Magisk as well. Just some ways to pull that off.
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I have been using a Magisk module to hide the swipe gesture bar entirely on mine, and had previously used 3 buttons as well (using the gesture because then floating Gboard has more room and no forced space on the side for 3-buttons even when hidden) via "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S), have it set to fully hide the gesture bar, and have been relying on "Xposed Edge Pro" for my actual gesture navigation and customizing of it, since I've changed my Moto G Power 2021 into a Watch (modified build prop to force landscape even by system apps and more ). So have Riru and Lsposed naturally via Magisk as well. Just some ways to pull that off.
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Awesome!
Which version of riru works with edxposed?
I've tried a few and can't get edxposed to find any of them when installing.
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I just noticed you said you installed Lsposed, got it installed successfully and i'm going to be checking out xposed edge pro, thanks a lot!
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For those wanting a step by step to accomplish this. Not sure exactly how you got yours setup @Onoitsu2, but this way works for me.
First enable 3 button navigation (search navigation in settings)
Install "Xposed Edge" from here, enable it in Lsposed, reboot.
Xposed edge | Xposed Module Repository
repo.xposed.info
Enable the gestures in Xposed Edge, definitely at least a home gesture, a back gesture, and maybe a recent apps gesture. If you do not do this before the next step, you may have to restore a backup.
Note that gestures from the bottom of the screen will not work when the keyboard is open, so I created a back gesture from the side of the screen like the stock one. Then you can tap back to close the keyboard, other things could be used too, like a toggle soft keyboard among others I'm sure.
Then follow this guide.
[MOD][Magisk] Disable Navbar For 3rd-Party Navigation Gestures
If you're like me, you like using a 3rd party navigation gesture app with the navbar hidden. In Android 11, google disabled wm overscan which makes it difficult to hide the navbar. Luckily, it's possible with Magisk and a little bit of...
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Now your relying only on the Xposed Edge module, and it's awesome!
Thanks @Onoitsu2
For some reason, my system UI keeps restarting, usually after I unlock my phone. Does that happen for you using Xposed Edge?
It only seems to happen when I use my fingerprint to unlock.
MyNameIsEarlB said:
First enable 3 button navigation (search navigation in settings)
For some reason, my system UI keeps restarting, usually after I unlock my phone. Does that happen for you using Xposed Edge?
It only seems to happen when I use my fingerprint to unlock.
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I would recommend enabling the gesture nav actually, as with the 3 buttons enabled, you actually lose screen real estate from invisible sections it keeps there in gboard and other keyboards as well, if you use the Android gesture nav it opens up that space as it seems to read that state in the gboard app and honors it, even if hidden or not it still gives the room. But then that "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S)" Magisk module, run through the console it has you answer questions. Once you have Xposed Edge set up right, you can use that to fully hide the Android gesture nav, and get full screen space overall.
As for your crashing system UI, it sounds like you may have the double tap gesture enabled still for your power button. When I rooted, I think that is the only thing that I lost access to, just stopped working, but reader itself worked fine. I did have some issues when I left that option on in Settings, with System UI being dumb at times as I think it tried to trigger it but would not work properly. Just a thought, since I've come to use Xposed Edge and the shortcut panel instead, much more feature rich than the stock panel.
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I would recommend enabling the gesture nav actually, as with the 3 buttons enabled, you actually lose screen real estate from invisible sections it keeps there in gboard and other keyboards as well, if you use the Android gesture nav it opens up that space as it seems to read that state in the gboard app and honors it, even if hidden or not it still gives the room. But then that "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S)" Magisk module, run through the console it has you answer questions. Once you have Xposed Edge set up right, you can use that to fully hide the Android gesture nav, and get full screen space overall.
As for your crashing system UI, it sounds like you may have the double tap gesture enabled still for your power button. When I rooted, I think that is the only thing that I lost access to, just stopped working, but reader itself worked fine. I did have some issues when I left that option on in Settings, with System UI being dumb at times as I think it tried to trigger it but would not work properly. Just a thought, since I've come to use Xposed Edge and the shortcut panel instead, much more feature rich than the stock panel.
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Awesome thanks for the tips.
I tried installing the full screen gestures module but I couldn't figure out how to disable the assistant gesture. I don't remember exactly, but I thought it only asked to disable the back button gestures, however I wouldn't doubt that I'm wrong ther on that. I'll have to reinstall it and try it the way your describing here.
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Awesome thanks for the tips.
I tried installing the full screen gestures module but I couldn't figure out how to disable the assistant gesture. I don't remember exactly, but I thought it only asked to disable the back button gestures, however I wouldn't doubt that I'm wrong ther on that. I'll have to reinstall it and try it the way your describing here.
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I used that module to not only alter the gestures, but turn that gesture nav fully off, hiding it entirely relying only on Xposed Edge Pro for navigations on my device actually. No System UI crashes here, nor other quirks that way like keyboard going dumb and not permitting swiping from bottom (be sure you look at Xposed Edge's settings and tweak them, it's worth it messing versus defaults)
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I used that module to not only alter the gestures, but turn that gesture nav fully off, hiding it entirely relying only on Xposed Edge Pro for navigations on my device actually. No System UI crashes here, nor other quirks that way like keyboard going dumb and not permitting swiping from bottom (be sure you look at Xposed Edge's settings and tweak them, it's worth it messing versus defaults)
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I just reinstalled it a bunch of times and you do get a lot more options if you choose immersive instead of Fullscreen.
It seems that no matter which options I choose and regardless of whether or not you use the 3 button or gesture system navigation, there's still a tiny black bar on the bottom of the screen.
The black bar is in exactly the same place as it is during boot. When compared to the top of the screen which goes all the way to the top, the bottom bar still has a little part of unused space.
Did you manage to extend the screen all the way to the bottom, as it does with the top of the screen?
It's definitely extended more, but it would be awesome to get the entire screen space.
On a side note, do you know if there's a way to force all apps to be completely fullscreen and go all the way to the very top with the status bar hidden?
When I hide the status bar and turn it into landscape mode with the status bar hidden, I do get to use the full space in the app readera for example, but when using it in portrait mode, the space just goes unused despite checking off all apps to go around the camera whole in settings. For example, Firefox doesn't use the full space at the top of the screen, even with the status bar hidden.
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On a side note, do you know if there's a way to force all apps to be completely fullscreen and go all the way to the very top with the status bar hidden?
When I hide the status bar and turn it into landscape mode with the status bar hidden, I do get to use the full space in the app readera for example, but when using it in portrait mode, the space just goes unused despite checking off all apps to go around the camera whole in settings. For example, Firefox doesn't use the full space at the top of the screen, even with the status bar hidden.
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Have you tried in multitasking list, tap on app's icon, it has a pullout of options that show like Full screen and if enabled split screen as another. That is the only thing I've used to make it fill up that upper notch area the camera is housed in. Mine is set to (Developer Options > Display Cutout) Device default. You want yours set to Hide to use the full space as often as possible I believe.
If you're on A11, When you go to Settings > Display and tap Advanced to expand the menu, do you have an option labeled "Full Screen" ? From there you can choose the apps you'd like to run full screen, of course this assumes the app is compatible and capable to do so.
Hi there, I hope this is the right place where to post this.
I'm not an expert at coding and I am struggling a lot with this issue I have.
I have an autistic child and since they have sensory issues he likes to set the brightness to its maximum level on his tablet,
he does the same with the sound but let's face the brightness issue now.
I'd like to have the chance to remove the brightness slider from the notification shade so that he cannot change it too easily.
On his previous tablet, unfortunately it has died, I managed to install a CyanogenMod Rom which had this option,
his new tablet is a HONOR Pad 8, I couldn't find any CyanogenMod Rom and since it's new I'd really like not to mess around with it for now.
I cannot really undestand how it is possible that such a useful and easy option is missing on stock roms,
the number of disabled people and children that could benefit from this kind of settings option is huge and they are completely neglected.
Is there any way to hide the brightness slider from the notification shade or lock its value?
Thank you in advance.
Alex
n3551 said:
Hi there, I hope this is the right place where to post this.
I'm not an expert at coding and I am struggling a lot with this issue I have.
I have an autistic child and since they have sensory issues he likes to set the brightness to its maximum level on his tablet,
he does the same with the sound but let's face the brightness issue now.
I'd like to have the chance to remove the brightness slider from the notification shade so that he cannot it change too easily.
On his previous tablet, unfortunately it has died, I managed to install a CyanogenMod Rom which had this option,
his new tablet is a HONOR Pad 8, I couldn't find any CyanogenMod Rom and since it's new I'd really like not to mess around with it for now.
I cannot really undestand how it is possible that such a useful and easy option is missing on the stock roms,
the number of disabled people and children that could benefit from this kind of settings option is huge and they are completely neglected.
Is there any way to hide the brightness slider from the notification shade or lock its value?
Thank you in advance.
Alex
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Your options may be grim.
First off - you cannot remove the brightness slider without using a custom rom.
However there might be a fix for the volume controls - which will disable the volume controls, using Button Mapper. It's on the Google Play Store, however not sure if it'll work though.
webhook said:
Your options may be grim.
First off - you cannot remove the brightness slider without using a custom rom.
However there might be a fix for the volume controls - which will disable the volume controls, using Button Mapper. It's on the Google Play Store, however not sure if it'll work though.
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Thank you for your reply.
I have found out how to change volume or brightness levels via ADB commands but I couldn't find a command to lock those values, maybe it's not possible I don't know.
I can assure you that there are lot of people who need to lock volume and brightness, disable the uninstall shortcut by long pressing apps icons, lock phone's settings via the app lock option...
All of this is missing on the stock ROMs and it's really unbelievable.
I think every parent would be willing to pay to benefit of such features.
There are many useless accessibility options available but these obvious ones are missing, I would like to know how to raise awareness about this issues with the official Android developers.
In the meanwhile I hope someone else could suggest me a workaround.
Thank you again
Alex