Which is better as a daily. I'm already unlocked and rooted on Oreo... Runs perfect but I've read multiple comments about Pie being better...
Is it true? Opinions please and why...
Thanks. Hope everyone is safe at home
If you're happy with oreo. Don't upgrade to pie.
Oreo FTW. I'm still running it on 5 of our family's phones.
jafferkhan said:
Which is better as a daily. I'm already unlocked and rooted on Oreo... Runs perfect but I've read multiple comments about Pie being better...
Is it true? Opinions please and why...
Thanks. Hope everyone is safe at home
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Especially for US998, nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods. US998 Pie is wonky and lots of trouble. LG never released the Open Market US998 Pie but only the U.S. Cellular US998 Pie. For people using other carriers like Verizon, some functionality is lost vs the Open Market US998 Oreo. For other Pie KDZ, it's a mixed bag.
However, if you decide to check it out and don't like it, then downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs (who works on a stock-based Pie ROM) made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run AOSP/LOS-17 based ROMs you do need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods. Our AOSP custom ROM devs work very hard and we appreciate the developments -- but with my current job I need my phone to work at all times of the day and night. Best for me personally to run rooted stock.
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From Aeron Li, the dev for AIX (stock based Pie ROM) and AIS (stock based Oreo ROM):
The pros and cons of Stock 9 Pie for LG v30:
CONS:
- lowered the processor frequencies at 518/800 MHz instead of 300 MHz and the Adreno graphics core at 257 MHz instead of 180 MHz in the Governor Interactive scheduler, which always works out of the box by default. Changing the scheduler requires a root and specialized programs for editing CPU / GPU parameters.
The result is twofold, on the one hand, an increase in speed (vaunted smoothness of the UI, which, in principle, is achievable by slightly different, MUCH MORE HUMAN METHODS) on the other hand, is a decrease in the battery life of the device, but since Android 9 has additional means of optimizing the battery, this is not so noticeable. Consider, the life time remained almost the same, but as a result we were simply deceived, because Google promises with the transition from Oreo to Pie an improvement in battery time, but in fact we do not have this.
- Lightweight sound driver. Stock Oreo calmly supports 384kHz / 32bit sound, and if you have certain tools, you can reconfigure it to output sound with improved quality by recounting with Aqstic and QuadDAC Saber. The 9 Pie driver does not have such an opportunity.
-LG removed FULLY ANT + support from 9 Pie. These are widely used (in Europe, the USA, Korea for sure) medical and sports devices - scales, sports trackers, bicycle microcomputers, etc. Why so is a mystery to me. It's a shame.
- device performance profiles + Thermal Engine profiles. They are awful. Not only that, in conjunction with the overestimated frequencies of the scheduler, by default the phone quickly “warms up”, thanks to them it starts to throttle faster to cool off. therefore, User Expirience is getting worse.
- depending on the region, the camera is trimmed in functionality. The same CinemaMode can write video either in FHD maximum or in UHD.
- Depending on the region, the WiFi settings functionality is cut. For example, for America, settings for displaying WiFi networks by signal level are available, the ability to select the carrier frequency for connecting to dual-frequency routers (auto / 2.49 / 5GHz), it is possible to choose the priority and the WiFi zone depending on the location (home / work / street ), there is an automatic connection to specialized WiFi XT networks.
- at some regions there is no way to transfer the access point to the 5GHz band. Only 2.4 GHz mode is available.
- Gestures (yes, neutered) are implemented using the launcher and not at the level of the system framework. Of course, I don’t know whether it was Google who originally did 9 Pie this way, or whether LG tried it. But for me, this is a minus of the system.
- no AR emoticons in the selfie camera. Minus for an amateur, but still.
- There is no DTS-X implementation for speakers. Moreover, the hardware is supported by us, and the mode can even be turned on, however, due to the cut-off audio path, it simply will not work.
-No equalizer as in older models, the same G7. At the same time, if you just install the application from the older device into the system (and add some string into build.prop), it will appear in the settings and work!
-A controversial point, but for me this is a huge minus. Again, I don’t know, maybe it’s because of Android 9 Pie, or LG is to blame, there is no choice to determine the geolocation in an expanded form (GPS + A-GPS + for mobile networks / GPS / For mobile networks). In addition, VERY increased battery consumption by the item "Help search for WiFi networks to improve geolocation". The fad consumes up to 2% of the battery in 8 hours. Someone does not care, but someone cherishes literally every milliampere-hour of the battery.
- degraded HEVC decoder. Cannot normally decode HFR (High Frame Rate) videos - videos with FPS over 60 - 120/240 fps. All your slow-mo recorded in HEVC will appear with overcontrast and hue.
PROS:
- fluent UI
- more CPU/GPU performance
- Newer API, support for newer games, apps, Vulkan API
- newer security patches (last was from december' 2019 at South Korean v300 device firmware)
- better CPU utilizing for idle mode and DOZE mode
In principle, these are the main disadvantages of the drain of LG Android 9 Pie. At least what I remembered now.
ChazzMatt said:
Nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods.
However downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run LOS-17 based ROMs you need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods.
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Thank you for the detailed reply. I understand... Even I've read countless complains regarding Pie for the v30 ... I too am rooted on stock Oreo and it's been fantastic for me. However... I have a G6 that's on Pie but it's not usable, it's way too slow and being a Verizon phone, it's bootloader is locked... I thought moving to Pie would help with the v30 but I feel that is not the case.
Looks like I'll be sticking to Oreo.
Thanks again. Hope y'all are safe at home
tech_infinity said:
If you're happy with oreo. Don't upgrade to pie.
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Thanks man
schwinn8 said:
Oreo FTW. I'm still running it on 5 of our family's phones.
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Understood. Thanks for replying
Is the battery better on pie? Is there a difference in this case?
EXTREMPOWER said:
Is the battery better on pie? Is there a difference in this case?
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No difference on battery usage itself, but charging is slower.
Oreo, ESPECIALLY if you have a US998.
Using Ting on T-Mobile's network, I upgraded both me and my wife's US998 models to pie after purchasing them about a year ago. I knew going in that Pie doesn't support VOLTE or WIFI Calling for T-Mobile (at least not with the US998 model) but I didn't expect it to be that big of a deal, considering I really don't care much about those features.
Now, keep in mind we don't do a lot of voice calling but the last couple of months we noticed that we had phone calls going straight to voicemail, and noticing some SMS messages took FOREVER to get, however clicking Airplane Mode on and off again would make them appear instantly. I never could figure it out until TING told me it was because the traditional 2G networks were being de-prioritized. Basically, without VOLTE if the towers are busy older tech gets put on the back burner - so calls and some SMS text messages won't go through.
Now with my wife working from home she had constant struggles getting calls to connect, and she was missing a lot of calls and texts from her work. A few days ago I reverted both phones to Oreo and everything is working perfectly.
MasterTec said:
Oreo, ESPECIALLY if you have a US998.
Using Ting on T-Mobile's network, I upgraded both me and my wife's US998 models to pie after purchasing them about a year ago. I knew going in that Pie doesn't support VOLTE or WIFI Calling for T-Mobile (at least not with the US998 model) but I didn't expect it to be that big of a deal, considering I really don't care much about those features.
Now, keep in mind we don't do a lot of voice calling but the last couple of months we noticed that we had phone calls going straight to voicemail, and noticing some SMS messages took FOREVER to get, however clicking Airplane Mode on and off again would make them appear instantly. I never could figure it out until TING told me it was because the traditional 2G networks were being de-prioritized. Basically, without VOLTE if the towers are busy older tech gets put on the back burner - so calls and some SMS text messages won't go through.
Now with my wife working from home she had constant struggles getting calls to connect, and she was missing a lot of calls and texts from her work. A few days ago I reverted both phones to Oreo and everything is working perfectly.
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I understand, looks like I'll be staying on Oreo, and downgrading my old G6 to Oreo as well. It felt much smoother. On Pie it feels terrible
ChazzMatt said:
Especially for US998, nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods. US998 Pie is wonky and lots of trouble. LG never released the Open Market US998 Pie but only the U.S. Cellular US998 Pie. For people using other carriers like Verizon, some functionality is lost vs the Open Market US998 Oreo. For other Pie KDZ, it's a mixed bag.
However, if you decide to check it out and don't like it, then downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs (who works on a stock-based Pie ROM) made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run AOSP/LOS-17 based ROMs you do need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods. Our AOSP custom ROM devs work very hard and we appreciate the developments -- but with my current job I need my phone to work at all times of the day and night. Best for me personally to run rooted stock.
________
From Aeron Li, the dev for AIX (stock based Pie ROM) and AIS (stock based Oreo ROM):
The pros and cons of Stock 9 Pie for LG v30:
CONS:
- lowered the processor frequencies at 518/800 MHz instead of 300 MHz and the Adreno graphics core at 257 MHz instead of 180 MHz in the Governor Interactive scheduler, which always works out of the box by default. Changing the scheduler requires a root and specialized programs for editing CPU / GPU parameters.
The result is twofold, on the one hand, an increase in speed (vaunted smoothness of the UI, which, in principle, is achievable by slightly different, MUCH MORE HUMAN METHODS) on the other hand, is a decrease in the battery life of the device, but since Android 9 has additional means of optimizing the battery, this is not so noticeable. Consider, the life time remained almost the same, but as a result we were simply deceived, because Google promises with the transition from Oreo to Pie an improvement in battery time, but in fact we do not have this.
- Lightweight sound driver. Stock Oreo calmly supports 384kHz / 32bit sound, and if you have certain tools, you can reconfigure it to output sound with improved quality by recounting with Aqstic and QuadDAC Saber. The 9 Pie driver does not have such an opportunity.
-LG removed FULLY ANT + support from 9 Pie. These are widely used (in Europe, the USA, Korea for sure) medical and sports devices - scales, sports trackers, bicycle microcomputers, etc. Why so is a mystery to me. It's a shame.
- device performance profiles + Thermal Engine profiles. They are awful. Not only that, in conjunction with the overestimated frequencies of the scheduler, by default the phone quickly “warms up”, thanks to them it starts to throttle faster to cool off. therefore, User Expirience is getting worse.
- depending on the region, the camera is trimmed in functionality. The same CinemaMode can write video either in FHD maximum or in UHD.
- Depending on the region, the WiFi settings functionality is cut. For example, for America, settings for displaying WiFi networks by signal level are available, the ability to select the carrier frequency for connecting to dual-frequency routers (auto / 2.49 / 5GHz), it is possible to choose the priority and the WiFi zone depending on the location (home / work / street ), there is an automatic connection to specialized WiFi XT networks.
- at some regions there is no way to transfer the access point to the 5GHz band. Only 2.4 GHz mode is available.
- Gestures (yes, neutered) are implemented using the launcher and not at the level of the system framework. Of course, I don’t know whether it was Google who originally did 9 Pie this way, or whether LG tried it. But for me, this is a minus of the system.
- no AR emoticons in the selfie camera. Minus for an amateur, but still.
- There is no DTS-X implementation for speakers. Moreover, the hardware is supported by us, and the mode can even be turned on, however, due to the cut-off audio path, it simply will not work.
-No equalizer as in older models, the same G7. At the same time, if you just install the application from the older device into the system (and add some string into build.prop), it will appear in the settings and work!
-A controversial point, but for me this is a huge minus. Again, I don’t know, maybe it’s because of Android 9 Pie, or LG is to blame, there is no choice to determine the geolocation in an expanded form (GPS + A-GPS + for mobile networks / GPS / For mobile networks). In addition, VERY increased battery consumption by the item "Help search for WiFi networks to improve geolocation". The fad consumes up to 2% of the battery in 8 hours. Someone does not care, but someone cherishes literally every milliampere-hour of the battery.
- degraded HEVC decoder. Cannot normally decode HFR (High Frame Rate) videos - videos with FPS over 60 - 120/240 fps. All your slow-mo recorded in HEVC will appear with overcontrast and hue.
PROS:
- fluent UI
- more CPU/GPU performance
- Newer API, support for newer games, apps, Vulkan API
- newer security patches (last was from december' 2019 at South Korean v300 device firmware)
- better CPU utilizing for idle mode and DOZE mode
In principle, these are the main disadvantages of the drain of LG Android 9 Pie. At least what I remembered now.
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Hi..I am using stock Oreo (V20F-IND-XX) without rooted on H930DS Indian variant. I am interested to root and downloaded all necessary files from WTF. Can you suggest what mods can be installed after rooting in oreo. ?Its not like i m lazy to search on forums. Since you are very much active in using V30 i thought you might have an clear idea.
nokia_16 said:
Hi..I am using stock Oreo (V20F-IND-XX) without rooted on H930DS Indian variant. I am interested to root and downloaded all necessary files from WTF. Can you suggest what mods can be installed after rooting in oreo. ?Its not like i m lazy to search on forums. Since you are very much active in using V30 i thought you might have an clear idea.
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First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
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Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
Main features
- QuickSettings tile management with additional tiles
- Pie Controls
- Expanded desktop with semi-immersive and immersive modes
- Lockscreen tweaks
- Statusbar tweaks
- Navigation bar tweaks
- Power tweaks
- Display tweaks
- Media tweaks
- Phone tweaks
- Hardware key actions
- Launcher tweaks
- Screen recording
- Smart radio
- Notification control (per-app notification LED/sounds/vibrations)
- Fingerprint Launcher
- Advanced tuning of Framework and System UI parameters
... and many more
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I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
See attached Screenshots for the mods I have installed. This is just my choice and you may want others.
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Third, with this V30 phone you need root to enable the DTS 3D SURROUND stereo framework which LG delivered with latter Oreo builds. This is also why you need to update to latest Oreo after initial bootloader unlock on early Oreo. The TWRP flashable zips have it already configured, and you just flash Magisk -- or if you flash full image KDZ you can change build prop yourself.
ChazzMatt said:
First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
________
Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
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Thanks for the heads up... About to root my phone
ChazzMatt said:
First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
________
Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
See attached Screenshots for the mods I have installed. This is just my choice and you may want others.
_____
Third, with this V30 phone you need root to enable the DTS 3D SURROUND stereo framework LG delivered with latter Oreo.
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I am curious about xposed, wasn't edxposed a requirement to get those modules running?
Could you please link the relevant forum where you've written about installing it without edxposed?
jafferkhan said:
I am curious about xposed, wasn't edxposed a requirement to get those modules running?
Could you please link the relevant forum where you've written about installing it without edxposed?
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edXPosed is only a requirement to have xposed modules running AND pass Safety Net.
"Regular" xposed doesn't pass Safety Net. But I don't care about Safety Net. I carry my wallet with me when I go out, my banking app doesn't rely on Safety Net to let me use it -- it relies on password or fingerprint. I don't play games which require Safety Net. If/when I ever do care about Safety Net I'll go back and install the edxposed version of xposed.
To just install xposed you install the "xposed framework" magisk module. See my screenshots a couple of posts up for Magisk modules. One of them is xposed framework. Then once that is installed and you reboot, you can install whatever xposed modules you want. I installed Oreo Gravity Box and a couple of others. In that post with the screenshots I also gave link to the Oreo Gravity Box.
jafferkhan said:
I understand, looks like I'll be staying on Oreo, and downgrading my old G6 to Oreo as well. It felt much smoother. On Pie it feels terrible
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Actually it's a shame because my phone worked so much better with PIE. Battery life was way better and everything just seemed smoother and more reliable. Not that there are really any specific problems with OREO but I did notice my battery life took a hit and the phone is a bit less butter, but really I have no complaints.
Until someone figures out how to port the VOLTE functions to PIE on the US998 (without bricking the phone) my options are pretty limited, and I'm too cheap to buy a new phone when the old one works just fine.
I'm using Pie (JF zip), and it looks like volte and wifi calling are working. These are screenshots from two diff phones, because one phone has a t-mobile sim - which allows wifi calling (no doubt it works, I've used it), and the other phone has a mint mobile sim (using t-mo networks) and it shows the HD icon which I believe indicates using volte? The mint sim doesn't allow wifi calling, they indicate as much on website, the only v30 they allow wifi calling have t-mo imei.
I'm very happy with Pie, works great imo
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I'm using Pie (JF zip), and it looks like volte and wifi calling are working. These are screenshots from two diff phones, because one phone has a t-mobile sim - which allows wifi calling (no doubt it works, I've used it), and the other phone has a mint mobile sim (using t-mo networks) and it shows the HD icon which I believe indicates using volte? The mint sim doesn't allow wifi calling, they indicate as much on website, the only v30 they allow wifi calling have t-mo imei.
I'm very happy with Pie, works great imo
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On 2nd screenshot i see "4G LTE". That's just the LTE icon in U.S. Whereas in U.S., stupidly "4G" icon is really HSPA.
Where is this HD icon you are talking about?
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Where is this HD icon you are talking about?
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I assume @AsItLies is referring to the green "HD" dial button. That's how I remember it looking when I had my H932 on T-Mo.
I'm right now trying to get VoLTE (HD Voice) working on my US998 with Red Pocket GSMA, after they enabled it on all networks: GSMT (T-Mo), GSMA (AT&T), CDMA (Verizon) and CDMAS (Sprint, select phones only). They used to only have it on GSMT.
https://help.redpocket.com/hc/en-us...-and-can-I-use-it-with-my-Red-Pocket-service-
So far I haven't been able to make it work on US998, but I've only just begun. I have one on Oreo 20h and one on Pie 30b.
Both these phones came with 30b (from YYWireless on eBay) and in my case Pie worked flawlessly on both. I rolled back to Oreo on one of the phones because I had an app that doesn't work on Pie, and probably never will. Pie is undeniably a bit slower, more lagging. Disabling SRTC and LDB/MLT helps a lot, and after also disabling animation it's fine. But no doubt Oreo is faster. OTOH, I have LTE issues on Oreo (phone only reluctantly connects to LTE, prefers HSPA, spends long time searching for network after every boot) whereas on Pie it was perfect (and still is on the other Pie phone). Also, the "Adaptive battery" feature on Pie is brilliant.
I've considered upgrading the Oreo phone back to Pie to see if the LTE problem goes away, or whether it's a persistent modem issue. But I would roll back to Oreo anyway, and right now it is not a high priority in my life.
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Hey guys! I've been using LG G3 VS985 on 4.4.4 for quite a long time and i didn't like stock rom at all. I am considering to flash custom rom but i don't know which one to choose as i am new to this custom rom stuff.Here's a list of what i want in a custom rom:-
1-It should be stable because i want to use it on my daily driver
2-Performance is my main concern.Stock rom was choppy in animations
3-Battery Life
4-Camera should be usable as i've heard you've to compromise camera for nice custom rom.OR just suggest an alternative camera app.
I wanted to flash CAF AOSP[6.0.1] but the reviews were not good as it had number of issues. Also i am OK with older version of androids.Don't want the Android N.
Why not just stay with stock but update to 6.0 ? I've kept mine stock for over 2 years (taking the OTAs as they come). AFAIK an update to 7 is not availabe yet, and given the age of the phone it may never be.
To address your points:
1. It's STABLE. I can't remember the last time I had to reboot.
2. Performance is fine to me. Granted I don't do any gaming (that's what tablets are for!), but I haven't run into any issues with streaming video, email, photos, or reading.
3. Battery life is so-so, and always has been. I haven't really measured it because I have a wireless charging back. When I come home or to the office, I just place the phone on the Qi pad. A collateral benefit is that I always remember where the phone is!
4. Get Open Camera from the Play store. It lets you set things like ISO, color balance, focus type, scene mode, etc. Works fine with the G3 on 6.0
The only real problem I've had is that the battery died after about 18 months (same thing happened to my wife's G3). That may well be a result of heat generated by the wireless charging, but since the battery on the G3 is replaceable, the fix was a $20 battery from LG.
I don't particularly like the stock interface, but Nova Launcher took care of that.
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Why not just stay with stock but update to 6.0 ? I've kept mine stock for over 2 years (taking the OTAs as they come). AFAIK an update to 7 is not availabe yet, and given the age of the phone it may never be.
To address your points:
1. It's STABLE. I can't remember the last time I had to reboot.
2. Performance is fine to me. Granted I don't do any gaming (that's what tablets are for!), but I haven't run into any issues with streaming video, email, photos, or reading.
3. Battery life is so-so, and always has been. I haven't really measured it because I have a wireless charging back. When I come home or to the office, I just place the phone on the Qi pad. A collateral benefit is that I always remember where the phone is!
4. Get Open Camera from the Play store. It lets you set things like ISO, color balance, focus type, scene mode, etc. Works fine with the G3 on 6.0
The only real problem I've had is that the battery died after about 18 months (same thing happened to my wife's G3). That may well be a result of heat generated by the wireless charging, but since the battery on the G3 is replaceable, the fix was a $20 battery from LG.
I don't particularly like the stock interface, but Nova Launcher took care of that.
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As for why I'm looking. Magisk framework and MagiskSU can't modify the stock ROM boot.img and verify even when bumped. For why that matters, no netflix now or very soon if rooted. Custom ROM can use a script to bump the boot.img after flashing seSuperUser and avoid the SafetyNet DRM checks.
For why that matters, no netflix now or very soon if rooted.
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Ok, but the OP didn't say he needed to be rooted. In fact, since the G3 is my "daily driver', I prefer to keep it stock unrooted (with Nova /launcher to take the rough edges off the LG UI.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against rooting per se; I have three tablets (Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and Samsung S2 8.0) that are all rooted. Unlike the G3, however, they are not "mission critical" for me. When I break something (and believe mei, I have! ) I can afford to take the time to figure out a fix.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Overclocking it makes everything even more considerable keeping up with newer phones but still so beautiful
IP certification would be perfect
I'm gonna post this here; I sent this originally as a private message since someone was asking about buying a Z2 Pro, and I figured a "here's kinda how it is as of September 2017" roundup might be useful for others looking at buying one, or trying to decide between the Pro and Plus.
So I own a Z2 Pro, and after several months of trying various options for custom and factory ROMs for it, and then getting a regular Z2 Plus for my wife, and setting THAT up...
Frankly, if I were going to get one now, I'd get the Z2 Plus Z2132 instead. Bigger battery, MUCH better custom ROM community with more stable & official builds, official TWRP, better-supported camera... to me, the extra $150 for the Pro has only meant more headaches trying to get something stable to work as a daily driver with regular security updates - and the AMOLED screen, UFS vs eMMC internal storage speed, and supposedly better camera haven't really ended up being as much of a difference as I thought. Yeah there's more storage & RAM, but... for daily use, at least on Nougat, 4GB RAM / 64GB storage is still plenty.
ZUI (factory firmware) issues:
Long story short, the official ZUI is an annoying mess for me, even with root (I use Magisk so I can have root utilities like Titanium Backup but still keep playing Pokemon Go with my wife)... the dialer and settings and built-in calendar app and lots of things still have Chinese showing up around the edges even when the system is set to English. Trying to disable built-in apps and use Google Dialer & Contacts doesn't quite work right, you can't actually install something like OpenGapps but have to piecemeal it together with packages from apkmirror or similar, and Google contact sync stops every week or two without warning - since I need contact, calendar, and email sync to work for business purposes, that's a show-stopper for me.
Seems like the Plus gets updates to ZUI before the Pro does, by a couple weeks.
Custom ROM issues:
The Pro camera really only looks & performs great under ZUI. It's not Camera2 HAL compatible and, unless Lenovo decides to pursue that with their own sources, never will support fancy HDR+ modes or zero shutter lag with Google Camera apps. AEX recent builds are starting to get really close to stock ZUI quality, since they imported & shimmed the ZUI camera blobs somehow, but some others like Mokee might still accidentally mechanically jam your camera trying to enable OIS. Ouch.
The U-Health app on stock ZUI is the only thing that can talk to the heart rate/blood-oxygen sensor on the back of the phone under the flash. Nobody has got U-Health working under a custom ROM since it requires the ZUI framework and integration with Lenovo's user login ecosystem. But the step sensor is apparently generic and supported by Google Fit, so if you just want to see if you're hitting 10K steps per day, you're all set. All the other sensors (gyro, orientation, proximity, magnetic, GPS/GLONASS, pressure, gravity, etc.) seem to work fine in custom ROMs.
You'll hear a lot about the "blue LED of death" - that's a hard freeze, the screen goes blank and the notification LED goes blue (with a 50% duty cycle, which looks different than just being "on"). You can restart from there by holding the power button for 8-10 seconds, so don't panic. Unfortunately, it seems to be reeeeeally easy to hard freeze the phone by doing some things with Bluetooth, or entering/exiting deep sleep (like if I have a clock alarm and a calendar reminder or two that would all go off simultaneously, and it's plugged in to charge, trying to wake itself up and play all those notifications at the same time has actually made it freeze instead and I've slept through an alarm that never went off) or other stuff that involves switching CPU states too much... I don't know. It seems like, at the end of the day, the stock (ZUI) thermal-engine.conf might have something to do with it... it sets super-low limits for temperatures, and the CPU ends up throttling, and it'll try to crash out perhaps as a safety measure instead of getting too hot... or maybe the constant state-switching leads to instability. Anyway, it's not too hot. They're just being super-conservative. Not sure. You can pull a different thermal config that'll ease up a lot, get you better benchmarks, and still isn't actually putting the hardware at risk.
Custom ROMs:
LineageOS 14 - there isn't a current build. I mean, there IS, and theoretically work is still being done on it, by a couple different people (long story and some drama involved there...) but there's no daily driver with working sound and no progress reports being made in XDA forums.
Mokee 7 - continues to be a thing (based on LineageOS sources), but... I don't know, it's all nightlies in terms of stability (at least when I tried it). Everything mostly works, it's just crashy. Wouldn't recommend. However, the maintainer is a guy whose name you'll see a lot: SY/Siyang. He's basically THE guy on the Lenovo Chinese forums responsible for building Z2 Pro ports of various custom/aftermarket ROMs like Resurrection Remix, AICP, Flyme, MIUI, HydrogenOS, etc. Apparently being a kernel developer means you know how to play around. But that's all it really is; playing around - he doesn't actively maintain any of them, just kinda builds them & throws them out there, but isn't in it to do active bug fixes. He also includes 3-4 packages of Chinese bloatware that involve some kind of adware/affiliate marketing to try and make some money - I don't begrudge him that, and you can disable/freeze them, but it's still not "clean".
MIUI/Flyme/HydrogenOS - I think they're all Android 6 (MM) based, so I haven't looked into them. Built by Siyang.
AICP - Built by Siyang. This was actually pretty good, but it crashed out on me with an alarm set twice and I was late for work. Ditched.
Resurrection Remix - Built by Siyang. This was also pretty good, but the 5.8.4 builds have problems. 5.8.3 was best, but got blue LED a couple times and ditched it too, not interested in moving backward in security patches.
...which brings us to AEX (AOSP Extended) - this is the only working Nougat ROM being actively developed & maintained for the Z2 Pro as of this writing that's stable for daily driver use, but it's REALLY good. @davidevinavil has done a fantastic job and is very responsive on the XDA forums. Since he's just using the same thermal-engine.conf as ZUI it doesn't score as high as possible on benchmarks, but you can grab the one from void23's kernel and use that (void hasn't updated his kernel for AEX 4.6 yet and doesn't seem to plan to with the release of Oreo "real soon now", so I don't recommend actually using his kernel anymore).
Works well with Magisk (for root, root hiding, and making Google Play Store like your weird-ass Chinese OEM phone, etc.), supports OMS/substratum themes, has current security patches, generally non-crashy, and camera quality is pretty good (both the built-in camera app, and with Open Camera and CameraNextModV7). F2FS support for /data & /cache might work, but the dev doesn't use those (even though, in theory, it makes a notable difference since the Pro has UFS instead of eMMC 5.2 storage) so plan on using ext4 for everything. Haven't tried device encryption yet, but if I were going to, it would be on this one.
Custom Kernels:
Void kernel - Void23 did some nice work based on AEX 4.5, and some people successfully use it with other ROMs as well. It works best with most current AEX 4.5, but from the reading I've done I wouldn't use it with 4.6. However, you can grab his thermal-engine.conf file from his installer package, and put it into /system/etc/ of a clean AEX 4.6 install and that'll give you a little more headroom before CPU/GPU/chipset throttling occurs.
TWRP:
There's a few, but @davidevinavil has the only 3.1.1 release, and it works the best as far as I can tell. There's a 3.1.0 release on the zukfans.eu German language forum (reasons...) that mostly works well but sometimes can't install some ROMs, and a Chinese release of 3.1.0 by wzsx150 that seems to work best for installing all the Lenovo forum ports by Siyang plus has a few extra goodies (like rebooting directly to EDL/port 9008 mode for QPST/QFIL flashing). As much as I'd love to have my /data partition encrypted, I haven't bothered testing lately. I'm guessing best compatibility would be using AEX and @davidevinavil's TWRP, but haven't actually tested. Again, F2FS is hit or miss.
But you know what's even better about @davidevinavil and AEX for the Z2 Pro? It's essentially a port of his work on AEX for the Z2 Plus! And on the Z2 Plus, it's only one of many actively supported and maintained custom ROMs! And there's an unofficial EAS-enabled version of AEX on that phone, so that bigger battery will go even farther!
So yeah. I like being able to quickly run a nandroid backup & restore and all, and have more room for video files & music, but as far as actual daily driver quality of life... not sure if the extra $150+ is worth it for the Pro, especially when you have the same CPU/GPU and bigger battery on the Plus. The every-so-slightly nicer camera seems to actually be a problem that delays getting working custom ROMs, and the other differences don't translate into noticeable daily quality of life improvements for me - I mean it's not like the plus is SLOW by any stretch. But it's got more RAM & storage, and USB 3 transfer speed, so if you use it as a glorified thumb drive a lot, or tend to load up lots of movies/music, then maybe it's worth it. And the AMOLED screen is pretty.
Oh, and there's a LOT more protective cases for the Z2 (plus) than the Z2 Pro.
So there you go. If you have any other questions about daily life with a Z2 Pro, feel free to ask me!
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It's fast, and it's working pretty well for me, but it took a LOT to get to where it's actually a reliable daily driver for work.
I have owned mine for 15 months and paid $400. If I broke it right now I would buy another one for the $260 it is selling at.
Got it 25 months so far, since October '17, bought 215€. In my eyes, it is like a the OnePlus 3 6/128 of its time, except the silly multilanguage chinese "stock" rom in which I have stucked yet (a modified MM version). I was about buying a new phone and change battery, root-rom-kernel etc at this one, and just change battery, root-rom-kernel etc this one. Decided to stay because even at 50€ more , it's impossible to find anything else equipped with just OIS, 6 GB ram, amoled, UFS, though I'd expected to be able to buy much more, such as >=8 ram, cooling, macro & wide, as we are two years after.
Sooo no. One more year will be good enough with it. That's the only (main) device I have kept for more than 10 months What more could I want? :angel: :highfive: :victory:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Nougat is too old. Better go with rooted oreo and use kernel like Ceres and mods like Anxious v30 mod.
With oreo rooted you can even use DTS
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Afaik, nougat seem to have better battery but not much feature as Oreo. Both nougat aand Oreo are stable
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Oreo has lots of fixes and camera improvements, especially post -January 2019. With root you can enable DTS framework. Even pre-January 2019 Oreo is not recommended for daily use.
That's one reason why we say to immediately update to latest Oreo firmware after bootloader unlock and root.
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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To further the discussion, this below
was ONE change log to Oreo in late 2018. One. There have been many others. Thus, I don't understand why anyone would want to run earlier pre-2019 firmware, especially Nougat?
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US99820f_00_1121.kdz
change log:
- DTS: X 3D stereo effect function has been added.
- New Always On Display options
- Selfie camera portrait mode
- Improved accessibility.
- Improved keyboard performance
- Improved the delay of keyboard input when installing multiple market apps at once.
- Photo display error in some apps since Google's latest security patch has been improved.
- Improved to keep app aspect ratio settings after app updates.
- Improved the phenomenon that fine lines are displayed on some screens when power saving mode is executed.
- Google Security Update has enhanced your phone's security.
Most of the list is found here in the link below -- plus the AOD and selfie camera portrait feature are from public reports. The AOD I verified myself, but the selfie thing seems to be subtle.
https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/contents/mobile/swUpgradeDetail.do?swSeq=621
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niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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That's going to be the plan for now thanks!
I run stock Oreo 22j in my H930, it's perfectly stable, fast and great battery life. For aesthetic you just need to play with it a little bit, try to find some launcher, icon pack and widgets to your liking.
Hello everyone!
I have a question regarding Pie (official) on the LG V30, I understand there is a US998 version of Pie, I already frankensteined (?) an H931 to US998, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I was about to update to Pie but was wondering if its worth it? I bought this phone recently with Oreo on it and the AT&T rom. Downgraded to Nougat as per Frankenstein method instructions and went back up to Oreo, this time US998, was able to unlock bootloader and root. For the little while I was on Nougat, could definitely tell the battery did not drain as quick as on Oreo (as I had read before buying the phone) and I read some users started getting battery life back with Pie, among a few Pie features. But I also heard, updating to Pie actually changes the partition structure and thus making it harder to install custom roms in the future? is that true? I'm wondering mostly because I would like to extend the life of the device eventually and going the Android 10 route (LOS or whatever) or similar. I did this with the LG G3 back in the day, using crDroid Nougat which made it faster than ever, had all nougat features, no bloatware, lots of stable features of the rom itself, and made the battery better than ever. My original idea was to update to Pie then do a factory reset to make sure everything works as it should.
TLDR: Should I update to Pie? or stay in Oreo?
Thanks.
You can always upgrade to pie at any point right? So why give it a go when you gone through Oreo custom ROMs too
I came from Oreo don't see much night and day difference just a few e.g pill navigation , LG's dual apps(works with a selective few)
Also right now custom Roms for Oreo are better compared to Android 10 ROMs for this device ,go for a AOSP pie (e.g havoc 9) give it a try
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techyrock said:
You can always upgrade to pie at any point right? So why give it a go when you gone through Oreo custom ROMs too
I came from Oreo don't see much night and day difference just a few e.g pill navigation , LG's dual apps(works with a selective few)
Also right now custom Roms for Oreo are better compared to Android 10 ROMs for this device ,go for a AOSP pie (e.g havoc 9) give it a try
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Thanks for the quick reply! Are there custom roms that have, eg: better battery life and quad dac working normally? I mean, the battery is not bad, but I can tell there is a certain drain compared to the stock Nougat the phone comes with (again though, I bought this refurbished with Oreo already on it).
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Thanks for the quick reply! Are there custom roms that have, eg: better battery life and quad dac working normally? I mean, the battery is not bad, but I can tell there is a certain drain compared to the stock Nougat the phone comes with (again though, I bought this refurbished with Oreo already on it).
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I didn't notice that much of a battery differences in between Pie and Oreo,
both being rooted in similar apps Pie might be slightly better? Or maybe same, like there wasn't dramatic drain on Oreo for me to be forced to come back to Pie,
Hmm among custom ROM I haven't had much of luck meaning I have Havoc a try and since I was coming from pie to Oreo to havoc couldn't get it working without permissive kernel and then didn't bother and flashed PIE zip I have lots of data 6gb WhatsApp alone so I avoid swapping ROMs I'll thought when I get the V40 or V30+ or smth with 845~855
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Moonfrost said:
Hello everyone!
I have a question regarding Pie (official) on the LG V30, I understand there is a US998 version of Pie, I already frankensteined (?) an H931 to US998, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I was about to update to Pie but was wondering if its worth it? I bought this phone recently with Oreo on it and the AT&T rom. Downgraded to Nougat as per Frankenstein method instructions and went back up to Oreo, this time US998, was able to unlock bootloader and root. For the little while I was on Nougat, could definitely tell the battery did not drain as quick as on Oreo (as I had read before buying the phone) and I read some users started getting battery life back with Pie, among a few Pie features. But I also heard, updating to Pie actually changes the partition structure and thus making it harder to install custom roms in the future? is that true? I'm wondering mostly because I would like to extend the life of the device eventually and going the Android 10 route (LOS or whatever) or similar. I did this with the LG G3 back in the day, using crDroid Nougat which made it faster than ever, had all nougat features, no bloatware, lots of stable features of the rom itself, and made the battery better than ever. My original idea was to update to Pie then do a factory reset to make sure everything works as it should.
TLDR: Should I update to Pie? or stay in Oreo?
Thanks.
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Just make sure you update to latest Oreo, not the early Oreo needed for Bootloader Unlock. You need latest Oreo for DTS 3D Stereo and the many camera improvements.
I'm still on rooted stock US998 20h Oreo.
For using android 10 ROMs you'd need to have stock pie
But to use pie aosp it'd be best if you stay with stock oreo as Android 10 ROMs have a few bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/detailed-guide-aosp-roms-issues-solution-t4002535
Yep, seen that, I was doing some research. I think I will just stick to newest Oreo for now and try some custom pie roms, such as Havoc OS. Eventually, if I see any stable Android 10 roms appear, I'll move to that. Thanks for your help!
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Just make sure you update to latest Oreo, not the early Oreo needed for Bootloader Unlock. You need latest Oreo for DTS 3D Stereo and the many camera improvements.
I'm still on rooted stock US998 20h Oreo.
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Hi Chazz,
I still have LG V30 h931 US998 20h rooted (stock) following your instructions. It has been solid as a rock, and I can do anything I need to with it. Recently picked up a One Plus 9 pro and I am seriously considering returning it before the 14 days run out. Battery life on my V30 is measured in days, not hours.
Just not seeing all that much increased performance to justify the 1k price. If I return it, I will get a Nord 10 and save a lot of cash.
Thanks for your hard work on this device. I hope there is a decent mod or update around the bend for this great phone someday soon.
hammeru said:
Hi Chazz,
I still have LG V30 h931 US998 20h rooted (stock) following your instructions. It has been solid as a rock, and I can do anything I need to with it. Recently picked up a One Plus 9 pro and I am seriously considering returning it before the 14 days run out. Battery life on my V30 is measured in days, not hours.
Just not seeing all that much increased performance to justify the 1k price. If I return it, I will get a Nord 10 and save a lot of cash.
Thanks for your hard work on this device. I hope there is a decent mod or update around the bend for this great phone someday soon.
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Hi Chazz,
I just installed DTS 3D Stereo and it appears to be working with the eq add-on installed as well.
In your opinion, Which are the better camera mods and what do I need to be careful about if installing one?
Since the DTS 3D installed without issue am I good to go? (I should know this already right?)
Thank you so much for your help and support to all of the V30 fans for so long. I now have a Pixel 4A 5G as a tester and I am still not overly impressed with it over my rooted 2017 LG V30. A camera upgrade via software would likely keep me happy with this phone for several more years.
hammeru said:
Hi Chazz,
I just installed DTS 3D Stereo and it appears to be working with the eq add-on installed as well.
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You're welcome.
hammeru said:
In your opinion, Which are the better camera mods and what do I need to be careful about if installing one?
Since the DTS 3D installed without issue am I good to go? (I should know this already right?)
Thank you so much for your help and support to all of the V30 fans for so long. I now have a Pixel 4A 5G as a tester and I am still not overly impressed with it over my rooted 2017 LG V30. A camera upgrade via software would likely keep me happy with this phone for several more years.
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There are plenty of GCam versions out there but I admit I have lost track of which ones are better. In the first year of development, there was always something wrong with them and most people ended up using two different versions for various scenarios. i.e. one for wide angle, one for regular lens, etc. Maybe that all got fixed, but I am not sure. Then TotallyAnxious developed her omnibus module which included camera from the V35/V40, but her module is no longer available.
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You're welcome.
There are plenty of GCam versions out there but I admit I have lost track of which ones are better. In the first year of development, there was always something wrong with them and most people ended up using two different versions for various scenarios. i.e. one for wide angle, one for regular lens, etc. Maybe that all got fixed, but I am not sure. Then TotallyAnxious developed her omnibus module which included camera from the V35/V40, but her module is no longer available.
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Thank you for the reply, I will let you know what I end up doing and if it ended up being an improvement.
Frankly the V30 camera is decent enough for most of what what I need it for.
FWIW, I am still on Oreo and I use Arnova's mod for GCam 6.1 (the latest version usable on Oreo... newer revs require Pie or higher). I found that the recommendations at this link worked best for me, in general: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-suggested/
I use the stock cam as well as this one as needed... this one does crash sometimes, but it works great for night-sight pictures, which is all I use it for.
Hi,
I know it is very subjective, but given that the phone has been around for 5-6 years, I think there are already some ROMs are obsolete, unusable, whereas there might be others which already proved their worth so to speak.
I had almost all V models (except V60) and came back recently to HK version of V30+dualSIM. I think it best suits my needs.
I noticed that only Android 7,8 and 9 are officially available, but I don't mind trying LOS ROM with younger Android (10,11 or 12).
What i absolutely want is to have autocall recording, so I need boot. Done that following the guide - thank you @
ChazzMatt et other who made this happen and also took time to explain to others how to do this.
Therefore I am now with pre July 2018 Oreo. TRWP 3.2.7? and Magisk 18.
Now, in order to keep root (the autocalrecord option) what is the latest Android one can use please?
Also, in Android 8 which I have now I can use external monitor by connecting a usb-c docking station. I read somewhere that either from Android 10 (or after 10) Google KILLED THAT FEATURE.
I need this also to work, so if you know that from Android 10 I will will not have the external monitor feature, I will stop at latest 9...
I know that all info is somewhere here, but the most breakthrough with this phone on this forum was during 2018-19, and 4-5 years on this inof might be obsolete, hence my thread today.
Many USA carriers are forcing VOLTE (and VOWIFI of course) when making calls. Only stock ROMs have this capability, so if you need VOLTE, then you have to stick to stock-based ROMs...
From what I heard, Verizon's Pie implementation was not great initially, so I wouldn't recommend that if you're on VZ towers, which leaves you on Oreo. I have heard that US998 Pie is better, so you could consider that if you're not on VZ.
If you're outside the US, then things could be different, of course.
apetrov1x5 said:
Hi,
I know it is very subjective, but given that the phone has been around for 5-6 years, I think there are already some ROMs are obsolete, unusable, whereas there might be others which already proved their worth so to speak.
I had almost all V models (except V60) and came back recently to HK version of V30+dualSIM. I think it best suits my needs.
I noticed that only Android 7,8 and 9 are officially available, but I don't mind trying LOS ROM with younger Android (10,11 or 12).
What i absolutely want is to have autocall recording, so I need boot. Done that following the guide - thank you @
ChazzMatt et other who made this happen and also took time to explain to others how to do this.
Therefore I am now with pre July 2018 Oreo. TRWP 3.2.7? and Magisk 18.
Now, in order to keep root (the autocalrecord option) what is the latest Android one can use baldi's basics please?
Also, in Android 8 which I have now I can use external monitor by connecting a usb-c docking station. I read somewhere that either from Android 10 (or after 10) Google KILLED THAT FEATURE.
I need this also to work, so if you know that from Android 10 I will will not have the external monitor feature, I will stop at latest 9...
I know that all info is somewhere here, but the most breakthrough with this phone on this forum was during 2018-19, and 4-5 years on this inof might be obsolete, hence my thread today.
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I think using stock ROM is still the best option