Delete Covid 19 Service - OPPO Reno 10x Zoom Questions & Answers

Hello, does anyone know how to delete this surveillance service? I don't want total surveillance.
if there is no way to delete it, I will buy an Apple iPhone. Because on iPhone you must update it to ios 13.5. But in Android this ****ing service has already been installed without asking.

zzman31 said:
Hello, does anyone know how to delete this surveillance service? I don't want total surveillance.
if there is no way to delete it, I will buy an Apple iPhone. Because on iPhone you must update it to ios 13.5. But in Android this ****ing service has already been installed without asking.
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Where is this? Never seen it

moozer said:
Where is this? Never seen it
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You must go to Settings and then to Google

zzman31 said:
You must go to Settings and then to Google
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It's a service set up for any track and trace app that you use to help your country battle Covid 19.
Nothing suggests it's spying or extracting data unless you have the app and giving your device permissions to communicate with the app's servers. Once you do, that data will be collated to assist with the global fight against the disease.

zzman31 said:
You must go to Settings and then to Google
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This part states what I've written above, so it's nothing sinister and you can relax

moozer said:
This part states what I've written above
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i know what you mean, but i don't think apple and google work on an app just to install it for those who want it. maybe in the beginning but they'll force the app on us just like this service. I have also read reports on where this service runs in the background even without an app installed

I mean this that Google an Apple says that the warnings should also be displayed if a user has not installed a Corona app at all.

zzman31 said:
I mean this that Google an Apple says that the warnings should also be displayed if a user has not installed a Corona app at all.
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Okay...2 things that are important to set your mind at rest. I'm not sure what you have been reading but be cautious of false information:

moozer said:
Okay...2 things that are important to set your mind at rest. I'm not sure what you have been reading but be cautious of false information:
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As you have no app to trigger the service... there's no issue. This is a global pandemic and the two companies are right to help in the containment. Your data is not at risk. Your privacy is not at risk. The app and service are controlled by you. Opt in if you want...otherwise, it's as you were

moozer said:
Your data is not at risk. Your privacy is not at risk.
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And for that i have what confirmation? Googles word? Googles trackrecord in regard to privacy and data proterction is nothing that would put me at rest.
Also company that has just shown that it can even install **** on my rooted Androidphone with customrom without asking permission.
So, has anyone already found out how to remove it?

Schwarzie2k said:
And for that i have what confirmation? Googles word? Googles trackrecord in regard to privacy and data proterction is nothing that would put me at rest.
Also company that has just shown that it can even install **** on my rooted Androidphone with customrom without asking permission.
So, has anyone already found out how to remove it?
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You have Google and Apple assurances that YOU have control SHOULD YOU decide to install the COVID 19 track and trace app.
Note: this is a global response and as such Google AND Apple have rolled out this service. Do you need permission from coronavirus to infect your immune system? No. It takes over regardless. Same here. The fight against this disease will go on with or without your permission. As I've said a few times, this is a service to respond to a global threat and a containment response. YOU DO NOT have to install anything to trigger the service unless YOU want to. It will remain dormant until activated by any Covid 19 tracking app that YOU CHOOSE to install.
Simple.
It's all about your own choice
If you're that paranoid about security...reach out to Google AND Apple and ask them.

moozer said:
You have Google and Apple assurances that YOU have control SHOULD YOU decide to install the COVID 19 track and trace app..
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The assurance of a known liar has no worth. The only currency here is trust. And both Google and my (the german) government have a horrible trackrecord in regards to trust., especially when it concerns privacy or the assurance that they wont creep in more functionality once the basics are installed.
And im still shocked that google can simply install whatever they want on my phone. More control about my hardware was a major decision point for a customrom with root on my end.

Schwarzie2k said:
The assurance of a known liar has no worth. The only currency here is trust. And both Google and my (the german) government have a horrible trackrecord in regards to trust., especially when it concerns privacy or the assurance that they wont creep in more functionality once the basics are installed.
And im still shocked that google can simply install whatever they want on my phone. More control about my hardware was a major decision point for a customrom with root on my end.
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Imagine having a trackable and identifiable footprint in your phone.
Oh....wait.
Anyway...as I said...reach out to Google as it seems reasoning with you is out of the question now. I tried being diplomatic but it just keeps becoming a contention.
On a separate note...
How did you root your phone?

zzman31 said:
Hello, does anyone know how to delete this surveillance service? I don't want total surveillance.
if there is no way to delete it, I will buy an Apple iPhone. Because on iPhone you must update it to ios 13.5. But in Android this ****ing service has already been installed without asking.
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You must uninstall the Play Services complete or only the update, then the interface will be deleted. So you just have to reset the Play Services under Apps.

Schwarzie2k said:
The assurance of a known liar has no worth. The only currency here is trust. And both Google and my (the german) government have a horrible trackrecord in regards to trust., especially when it concerns privacy or the assurance that they wont creep in more functionality once the basics are installed.
And im still shocked that google can simply install whatever they want on my phone. More control about my hardware was a major decision point for a customrom with root on my end.
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Hey, look at this
and you must change in PlayStore in the settings, that it doesn't make updates automatically.

Go buy an iPhone and please don't come back to the XDA forums

zzman31 said:
Hello, does anyone know how to delete this surveillance service? I don't want total surveillance.
if there is no way to delete it, I will buy an Apple iPhone. Because on iPhone you must update it to ios 13.5. But in Android this ****ing service has already been installed without asking.
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I've found this little how to and I can confirm, it works!
Easy STEPS to TURN OFF COVID-19 Exposure Notifications on Android
STEP 1:
• Check if the “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications” Tracking service has been installed on your smartphone.
o Go to the Android Settings
o Search and click “Google”
o If listed services the item “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications”, it means the service has been installed.
• If you want to remove the service then follow STEP 2.
STEP 2:
• Go to Android Play Store
• Click on the three horizontal lines at the top left
• Click “Settings”
• Click on “Automatic app update”
• Select “Do not automatically update apps and confirm by pressing End”
• Open Android Settings
• Click on “Security” or “Security and Locations”
• Click on “Advanced”
• Disable “Find My Device” if active
• Go back to Android Settings
• Look for the item “Apps and notifications” or “Applications”
• Click on “Show all app”
• Click on “Google Play Services”
• Click on the 3 vertical dots at the top right
• Click on “Uninstall updates”
• Press “OK” at the confirmation request
Some steps might be different depending on the Android device that you have!
Done!!!
Now check STEP 1 again and make sure the “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications” item has disappeared.
source: youtube LEVEL IT UP (08.07.2020)
Just to clarify where the line was crossed. It doesn't matter if anything was "on" or "off", I totally agree that this
test service for this test pandemic will do "nothing" if it is turned "off". The crossed line is, that Hydra installed a service,
without any further notice nor user confirmation. This move violates by definition any international privacy laws, regulations and guide lines. In fact, they have proven they can install what ever they want, all these permissions regulations for us users and app developers, for nothing, just bogus, they don't need it at all.
At least Apple acts like they would respect those formalities, but as soon as they force the user to update because
other apps won't run without this update, which includes the harmless service, they throw this hypocrite respect overboard. It is a bit like selling it to you as rain while it is actually melded yellow snow.
So what's next?
Cheers
NewBit

newbit said:
So what's next?
Cheers
NewBit
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From NPR: (10 April 2020)
"In the coming months, they (Google & Apple) will update their Operating Systems so phones can share information without having to install an app..."
Source:
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...oogle-build-smartphone-tool-to-track-covid-19
Covid-19 articles on XDA worth checking out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/tag/covid19/

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newbit said:
I've found this little how to and I can confirm, it works!
Easy STEPS to TURN OFF COVID-19 Exposure Notifications on Android
STEP 1:
• Check if the “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications” Tracking service has been installed on your smartphone.
o Go to the Android Settings
o Search and click “Google”
o If listed services the item “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications”, it means the service has been installed.
• If you want to remove the service then follow STEP 2.
STEP 2:
• Go to Android Play Store
• Click on the three horizontal lines at the top left
• Click “Settings”
• Click on “Automatic app update”
• Select “Do not automatically update apps and confirm by pressing End”
• Open Android Settings
• Click on “Security” or “Security and Locations”
• Click on “Advanced”
• Disable “Find My Device” if active
• Go back to Android Settings
• Look for the item “Apps and notifications” or “Applications”
• Click on “Show all app”
• Click on “Google Play Services”
• Click on the 3 vertical dots at the top right
• Click on “Uninstall updates”
• Press “OK” at the confirmation request
Some steps might be different depending on the Android device that you have!
Done!!!
Now check STEP 1 again and make sure the “COVID-19 Exposure Notifications” item has disappeared.
source: youtube LEVEL IT UP (08.07.2020)
Just to clarify where the line was crossed. It doesn't matter if anything was "on" or "off", I totally agree that this
test service for this test pandemic will do "nothing" if it is turned "off". The crossed line is, that Hydra installed a service,
without any further notice nor user confirmation. This move violates by definition any international privacy laws, regulations and guide lines. In fact, they have proven they can install what ever they want, all these permissions regulations for us users and app developers, for nothing, just bogus, they don't need it at all.
At least Apple acts like they would respect those formalities, but as soon as they force the user to update because
other apps won't run without this update, which includes the harmless service, they throw this hypocrite respect overboard. It is a bit like selling it to you as rain while it is actually melded yellow snow.
So what's next?
Cheers
NewBit
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jsusang said:
From NPR: (10 April 2020)
"In the coming months, they (Google & Apple) will update their Operating Systems so phones can share information without having to install an app..."
Source:
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...oogle-build-smartphone-tool-to-track-covid-19
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Thanks!! Yeah that is creepy as well!
According to this Paper GAEN Due Diligence: Verifying The Google/AppleCovid Exposure Notification API the whole pseudo open-source code architecture, just leads to unreliability like false-positives etc.
However, silently shipped changes to closed-source proprietary GAEN implementations can affect the performance of public health contact tracing apps based on the GAEN API, e.g. affecting the rate of expo-sure detection false positives and false negatives. The lack of transparency around this raises obvious concerns and reduces the value of health authorities and other app implementers making their client code publicly available.
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jsusang said:
Covid-19 articles on XDA worth checking out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/tag/covid19/
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I think there is a typo in Aamir Siddiqui's Article: This contact tracing API, which Google and Apple call the Exposure Notification API, is designed to DISrespect user privacy and security.
dhonzik said:
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Can you please be more specific? Another XDA Member in Removal of new sneaky COVID menu and feature, is it possible?
had an issue too, but fixed it.
gabriolinari said:
Now open settings and search for device administrator (device admin apps) and disable find my device and google pay and all the other apps listed.
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Is your app spying on you?

Most of the app now require acces to the phone calls..even a news app requires it, sms app such as go sms also requires it. So I want to know after knowing that an app will be able to acces your phone call you still download it? And does anyone in what way the developers use such info?
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Excellent topic, I'm really troubled by this. The business world makes a whole lot of money based on the average persons inertia - their lack of information or willingness when it comes to the products and services they use and the money they use to pay for them. Particular mobile phone network providers come to mind, who are happy to charge the most expensive prices because people don't know or don't care.
This lazy attitude is seeping into the Android app world. It will be a small per centage of us who will realize this threat and do something about it - exactly like cookies and public wifi privacy etc.
For those of us already interested, are there websites or apps which can guide us on this?
I had thought about it before but it seemed to be all apps out there at least need to access your internet, calls, phonebook and etc.. Not sure really if some of these nasty apps has the evil purpose to steal our vital informations in the phone... say if we're checking our bank account or something similar..
What I practice:
1) Installed AVG pro and do scan regularly, and set to scan every newly installed apps.
2) Use both cache cleaner and history eraser to clean up all traces once a day.
3) Hope they don't see me as a target.
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
Deehee3 said:
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
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What about data? When you install an app in most cases you allow data access to it.
Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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Deehee3 said:
Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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What if not? What if app you´ve installed is spying on you and sending info to hackers. How would you know?
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
On other systems, apps usually have an user/administrator scheme, where the 'user' has access to some things and 'administrator' has access to everything.
There is no such thing on Android (except if you have a rooted phone and some app asks for superuser access, but you get a requester asking for permissions as well).
Each app has to specifically ask for permissions or the system will deny it. A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
Some permission requests to look out for:
- "Call phone"
can be used by the application to silently dial some "premium" numbers
- "Send SMS"
can be used to send SMS to special "premium" numbers
- "Record phone calls"
can be harmful if associated with "internet access" permission
- "Access fine location"/"access coarse location" and "internet access"
can be used for tracking purposes
Many apps ask for:
- "Phone identity" / "internet access"
they use it for "statistics purposes" (flurry.com mostly) but it is bad. The developer should always inform the user about those.
BTW, that an app is open source makes no difference. Someone can always (willingly or not) tamper with the final build. And not everyone reviews open source apps.
zapek666 said:
A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
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Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
ppirate said:
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
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Don´t tell me that you evaluate the source code of each application you load from the market. And even so, how would you know the difference between what is shown to you and the final build, available on the market?
vlissine said:
Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
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Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
Android apps are all sandboxed into their own homes.
A good example of a suspicious application is HTML5 Reference.
"This HTML5 reference lists all tags supported in the HTML5 specification.", fine. Let's look at the permissions:
Network communication: full Internet access
Phone calls: read phone state and identity
While the first 2 could be produced as a side effect of the developer implementing some "statistics library" (flurry.com or so), the next 2:
Your location: fine (GPS) location
Your personal information: read sensitive log data
Are a giveaway that this app does a bit more than just listing HTML reference tags
zapek666 said:
Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
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Ok, how about a picture viewer, which usually picks pictures from each and every
directory, no matter if you want it (and not only from memory card).
Hey vlissine and zapek666. You both have a point.
One individual cannot review every code he or she uses. And also one does not only uses his or her own builds of the projects. But every now and then, I have to go into a project, mostly to add functionality. During that time, I usually have to go over a lot of code to understand the program. It is no guarantee, but you can imagine that some strange code will stand out.
I'm surely not the only person. So while one individual is not capable of such an endeavor. A lot are.
Your other point is as valid as can be. But here again, builds are comparable.
Surely, one does not have to find himself or herself obliged to use certain kind of projects. But to me, when I have the change, I use and support the open source project. One important reason is because of the concern raised by the original poster!
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/03/update-on-android-market-security.html
Apparently we were not that paranoid, thinking of spying apps
Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
farsight73 said:
Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
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One more option - stop giving stupid advises when you have nothing to say.
maybe apps need to call functions or need it to run?
write them your self if your that bothered?
...
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[Source Code Posted] Nokia App Updates by HERG-A-FIED

Microsoft has denied my app from being published yet there are other apps like mine still in the store. I have asked what I did wrong and all I get is a snob response of:
Hello Robert,
The app was removed because it allows users to install apps on their device that bypass security measures on the Windows Phone Store. The app will not be restored, so you may not submit updates. This is our final communication regarding this issue.
Thank you,
Windows Phone Store Team
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So instead of trying to fight Microsoft I am posting my SOURCE CODE and I am jumping from Windows Phone Development and moving to Android. Yes I was a Windows Fan but now I am finished forever with Microsoft.
My source code if you want to use it is found here on my skydrive - http://sdrv.ms/16hCWRz
Thanks!!
Version 2 Submitted for Cetification
I have submitted V2 update on both apps (NOKIA APP UPDATES & SAMSUNG APP UPDATES)
Samsung V2 change log is:
Update 2.0.1.0
In light theme the background was not displayed correctly. This update fixes that issue.
____________________
In Nokia V2 change log is:
Update 2.0.0.0
I would like to thank my friend RAM for helping me with this upgrade.
Redesigned app from the App Studio Beta into C# Language.
When you click on link IE will not open, instead it goes directly to the store download.
Added AppBar at the bottom.
In AppBar, rate link goes directly to the rate app review, now able to share link, added e-mail link direct to me if any issues or letting me know about an app that needs adding, link to my other apps for download.
________________________________________________________________
Again these versions have just been submitted and both are in the certification stage. It will take a bit before the new version will show up so please be patient with me.
Thanks HERG62123 :fingers-crossed:
The pictures below are from V2 which is being certified.
Nokia App Updates V2 now posted in the link in Post #1.
Samsung App Updates V2 is also posted.
Ok I have updated both apps and are in the process of being certified.
As of right now V2 is up and posted but in the up coming V2.0.1.0 the changes are as follows:
Nokia App Updates V2.0.1.0 - added Connectivity Pro+ and Unit Converter Pro+
Samsung App Updates V2.0.1.0 - In the light theme background was not set correctly so this update fixes that issue.
V2.0.1.5 - Samsung App Updates being certified as we speak/
Added a donate link if user wants to donate but not in away to upset user
Made buttons smaller due to accidental opening while flipping
I am using it in my nokia 920 and it has scrolling issue. means it does not scroll at all. instead it opens the app that i do not want to when trying to scroll. so actually instead of scrolling up or down it pushes the spot where i want to scroll up or down and the app that is in there opens.
[email protected] said:
I am using it in my nokia 920 and it has scrolling issue. means it does not scroll at all. instead it opens the app that i do not want to when trying to scroll. so actually instead of scrolling up or down it pushes the spot where i want to scroll up or down and the app that is in there opens.
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Microsoft pulled my app - here is their response to me
"The app was removed because it allows users to install apps on their device that bypass security measures on the Windows Phone Store. The app will not be restored, so you may not submit updates. This is our final communication regarding this issue.
Thank you,
Windows Phone Store Team"
As you can see Microsoft has no bed side manners.
Planning on uploading the xap then?
herg62123 said:
Microsoft pulled my app - here is their response to me
"The app was removed because it allows users to install apps on their device that bypass security measures on the Windows Phone Store. The app will not be restored, so you may not submit updates. This is our final communication regarding this issue.
Thank you,
Windows Phone Store Team"
As you can see Microsoft has no bed side manners.
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I think about security issues for Windows phone is too much.
1. I cannot use any other keyboard directly writing in SMS or anything. I have to copy paste.
2. Call recorder is not supported as well in WP 8 as this is also security issue.
3. What else is security issue I wonder ?
4. No video transfer in Viber. I think at least this should not be security issue.
Everything is security issue in WP 8. Why Microsoft does not think that people will abandon the OS ? there are too much security issues, I did not know about it before buying my Nokia Lumia 920 developer edition. To tell the truth i keep my phone because it is Nokia not because of OS at all but soon most likely my WP will be second device and I will go back to Android and buy HTC again, great UI and fast and now they update more frequantely.
New Version being CERTIFIED NOW
Link to new version is in the code box in post one, but beware it is still being certified still
Microsoft has denied my app from being published yet there are other apps like mine still in the store. I have asked what I did wrong and all I get is a snob response of:
Hello Robert,
The app was removed because it allows users to install apps on their device that bypass security measures on the Windows Phone Store. The app will not be restored, so you may not submit updates. This is our final communication regarding this issue.
Thank you,
Windows Phone Store Team
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So instead of trying to fight Microsoft I am posting my SOURCE CODE and I am jumping from Windows Phone Development and moving to Android. Yes I was a Windows Fan but now I am finished forever with Microsoft.
SOURCE CODE POSTED IN POST #1
herg62123 said:
Microsoft has denied my app from being published yet there are other apps like mine still in the store. I have asked what I did wrong and all I get is a snob response of:
So instead of trying to fight Microsoft I am posting my SOURCE CODE and I am jumping from Windows Phone Development and moving to Android. Yes I was a Windows Fan but now I am finished forever with Microsoft.
SOURCE CODE POSTED IN POST #1
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But they say Windows phone is the future how come you go to Android ? Also if windows phone has security measures, what is that security measures that you do not want to except before you app is published ? I hear about WP lot of things related to security, this is very strange for me. Even phone call recorder is security related, then keyboard app other than Microsoft to type directly in the SMS is not implemented too. And many other that keep developer away somehow. How come ? GDR 3 is coming soon and maybe some changes will be there with their policy too ?
[email protected] said:
But they say Windows phone is the future how come you go to Android ? Also if windows phone has security measures, what is that security measures that you do not want to except before you app is published ? I hear about WP lot of things related to security, this is very strange for me. Even phone call recorder is security related, then keyboard app other than Microsoft to type directly in the SMS is not implemented too. And many other that keep developer away somehow. How come ? GDR 3 is coming soon and maybe some changes will be there with their policy too ?
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If you look at the swype keyboard for android it actually stores what you type and sends info back to the manufacturer.
A third party KBD on the phone would mean that KBD app could harvest your passwords and send them on to a destination of choice.
Similar issues exist with the call recorder. Who should have access to those recordings? You? Google? Rovio? NSA?
So yes, your app got booted because you don't grok the security implications of what you're trying to do, and in stead of trying to understand why you just blame the OS.
Please, go develop for Android, and I hope you make tons of money in the process. Just quit being a whining little girl about it.
herg62123 said:
Microsoft has denied my app from being published yet there are other apps like mine still in the store. I have asked what I did wrong and all I get is a snob response.
So instead of trying to fight Microsoft, I am posting my SOURCE CODE and I am jumping from Windows Phone Development and moving to Android.
My source code, if you want to use it, is found here on my skydrive - http://sdrv.ms/16hCWRz
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Hey, the source of your app has disappeared. Can you put it back up? I could really use it for my next version of my app for carrier apps.

[Q] How can I tell which things are running?/How to know if an app is trustworthy?

Hey,
When I turned on my phone the RAM it was taking was 300 MB, after a days use it is now 500MB (even after pressing 'clear RAM' button).
I've entered Settings->apps->running and it shows only two small things (the keyboard and some weather widget) which combined take only 20 MB.
So what is the rest of the memory is beign allocated for?
Thank you.
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
pc103 said:
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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No, the closest I have is "Task Manager".
lenovoOwner said:
Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
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Thank you, indeed I see some more RAM guzzlers, but It seems like they make up most of the addition but not all of it ... plus funny thing, when I try to close everything (in 'running' and 'cache) and I reenter- here it is there again...
1) Can I see all of the elements that take up my ram (the system as well)?
2) Can I close them properly?
Thank you very much.
PS. Is there some comfortable way to jump between apps? Like in the Iphone where by pressing the 'Home' button will show you a bar with a row of icons of the currently active processes....
For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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LOL {hit myself on the head}, didn't occur me to try...
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The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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I was hoping there is a way to avoid using apps...
Ok, I suppose it opens another question which I thought about creating a new thread for, but if the opportunity already arose...
How do you actually know if you can trust an app?
I'm kinda new to android and I'm much more used to the opennes of windows, also I'm pretty paranoid (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
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How do you actually know if you can trust an app?. . . (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
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Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
pc103 said:
Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
thx.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
I forgot to mention. 4.3 I'm running is on the 4.1.2 bootloader, completely avoiding lopsided knox security. I hope I didn't appear to recommend the OTA update. That's a personal choice.
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Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
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Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
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Oh. Got it.
Anyway, Thank you!!!
oy-ster said:
Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
...Anyway, Thank you!!!
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You're welcome. To be fair, most times I've seen postings by people who background checked code it was in rom threads, or over root exploits or security apps. In most other cases due diligence is our best defense.

Overwriting existing apps, a high level business dilemma

Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to do this but i've got a question i hope i can get clarified here with you experts
I am a PM that is in charge of a managing the delivery and development of a business's mobile application. Recently the company is looking to get rid of the incumbent developer due to unprofessional-ism and exorbitant fees. The other technology partner i am directly engaging with is a newly appointed development house and is tasked to clone the app and add additional features the incumbent refuses to add on.
Come launch date, the business requires the new app to replace the old app. To the existing customer base, the goal is to ensure that the transition is as seamless as possible. They are hoping that when existing users open the app, they will be prompted to install an update where the old one is then replaced with the old one. As such, is it possible for the new technology partners to this? What are the necessary steps required? I am trying to ensure that all necessary precautions and dependencies are covered to ensure any potential backlash / fallout. Is it as simple as obtaining the app certificate and ensuring the apk is named exactly the same? Any advice would be helpful.
The worst case scenario here would be to get the users to reinstall the app entirely or treat it as a completely separate app. :crying:
You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
androFRUST said:
Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
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I don't have enough experience with iOS to comment on that.
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
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While you can upload a new version of the same app the users would still have to manually (or automatically if their device is configured that way) download it. Google released a "forced update" API a while ago. If that is included in your old app that might help. Otherwise you would have to add it manually which would require access to the source code. But then the users would have to manually update too so it would be quite useless.
So one way to force them to update is to disable all APIs the app might use but that might alienate the users as they have no clue why it stopped working. So as long as you have no notification system that is working right now you have to depend on your users updating.

Question Multiple User Accounts

Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
spart0n said:
You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'll check it out.
blackhawk said:
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
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My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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Shelter is your friend.
Multiple Users was supposed to be included in OneUI 5.0 and was available in their beta. But for some unknown reasons, they removed this stock Android feature from the stable build.
[email protected] said:
My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
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Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons. Or simply only use/carry the work phone when at work. If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
blackhawk said:
If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
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Agree.
blackhawk said:
Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons.
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Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
TheMystic said:
Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
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Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
blackhawk said:
Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
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That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
TheMystic said:
That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
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It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
blackhawk said:
It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
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I haven't seen any performance drop. You can turn OFF work profile when required, and that will disable access completely.
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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How? Is it the US version?
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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I'm having issues enabling the work profile. How did you do it?
I was able to get it to work by using Island instead of Shelter
[email protected] said:
How? Is it the US version?
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I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
Google Play Link
King-ish said:
I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
Google Play Link
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Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
[email protected] said:
Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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Their app was updated February of last year. My understanding is since these apps (Shelter/Island) are only making the work profile more accessible, there isn't a lot of development unless there is a major underlying change to the OS or Work Profile framework like with Android 13. The Android 13 beta was released February 10, 2022 and the last Island update was February 22, 2022.
My
[email protected] said:
Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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My preferred app for this is Shelter and I thought they abandoned it, but it looks like they update their app on F-Droid.
Shelter | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Isolate and run multiple instances of apps using Work Profiles
f-droid.org
@King-ish Thanks! Went with the FOSS implementation of Island at Insular.
Have the work profile setup.

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