As the title says I can't disable that service I'm using Package Disabler Pro to deactivated every bloatware in my V30 H-931 but every time I try to disable my phone restarts is there a way to disable without having to root my phone?
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As the title says I can't disable that service I'm using Package Disabler Pro to deactivated every bloatware in my V30 H-931 but every time I try to disable my phone restarts is there a way to disable without having to root my phone?
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Using Package Disabler Pro on V30 will probably cause lag in your system. You must be coming from an older phone and you don't yet know how newer LG firmware works? You will end up removing stuff the system looks for, which causes lag.
LG has a lot of firmware intertwined. You yank something out, it's not in an isolated silo like the old days. It's like a spiderweb.
Using Titanium Backup to freeze "unwanted" apps/services is better. If you see lag, then you can UNfreeze. Yes, that requires root.
If you mess things up too badly with Package Disabler, then you'll be factory resetting to bring everything back. Lots of people have had to do that. We've had this phone since 2017, so we know how it all works.
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So i have my tmobile edge for a couple of days now and im not really impressed with the battery life so i installed greenify however its not showing me all the bloatware that came preinstalled, anyone else having these issues?
peste19 said:
So i have my tmobile edge for a couple of days now and im not really impressed with the battery life so i installed greenify however its not showing me all the bloatware that came preinstalled, anyone else having these issues?
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Do you have experimental mode enabled? I think you need the donation pack as well as root to greenify system apps.
didnt know about that, i tried going to experimental features and you are right donation package is needed however it says xposed is needed also, is xposed compatible with s6 edge? afraid of installing stuff to brick my device. I was trying to avoid rooting it for now since i see alot of people are bricking their devices, waiting for a fix.
Has anyone noticed some improvements using greenify with s6?
peste19 said:
didnt know about that, i tried going to experimental features and you are right donation package is needed however it says xposed is needed also, is xposed compatible with s6 edge? afraid of installing stuff to brick my device. I was trying to avoid rooting it for now since i see alot of people are bricking their devices, waiting for a fix.
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You don't need Xposed to greenify system apps. There are some other features in the experimental section that it enables, but you don't need them. (And you are right that xposed is not compatible with the edge).
However, if you are not rooted the System freezing doesn't work very well in my experience. It freezes them but they often start running again on their own. Thus you wind up with it trying to close them all down each time you turn off the phone. You might be better off disabling what apps you can manually instead.
Overall I didn't find Greenify to be great when not rooted - sometimes it gets stuck pressing the keys to force close the apps. The best way I found was to use tasker to trigger the hibernation when the phone has been idle for ~10minutes, but it was still a bit iffy.
It will probably be good enough to get you by for now if you think you will root later, but I am not sure I would bother if you probably won't ever root.
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You don't need Xposed to greenify system apps. There are some other features in the experimental section that it enables, but you don't need them. (And you are right that xposed is not compatible with the edge).
However, if you are not rooted the System freezing doesn't work very well in my experience. It freezes them but they often start running again on their own. Thus you wind up with it trying to close them all down each time you turn off the phone. You might be better off disabling what apps you can manually instead.
Overall I didn't find Greenify to be great when not rooted - sometimes it gets stuck pressing the keys to force close the apps. The best way I found was to use tasker to trigger the hibernation when the phone has been idle for ~10minutes, but it was still a bit iffy.
It will probably be good enough to get you by for now if you think you will root later, but I am not sure I would bother if you probably won't ever root.
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how did you use tasker to enable the hibernation? i am a bit new at this
peste19 said:
how did you use tasker to enable the hibernation? i am a bit new at this
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I just had a look but unfortunately I don't have the profile anymore to export it for you.
Doing it from scratch would be a bit daunting if you have never used Tasker before.
You basically need to:
1. Set a variable for the display state (ie, on, off and unlocked). %DisplayState
2. Have a task for the screen unlock which sets a variable %NeedToGreenify or similar.
3. Have a task for the when screen off event triggers and %NeedToGreenify is set. This task waits 10 minutes. Then check if the screen is still off - this is what %DisplayState is for (Stop if it is not). Clear %NeedToGreenify. Trigger Hibernate (Greenify is a 3rd Party Plugin). Wait 30 seconds. Turn the screen off "SecureSettings - LockDevice".
I think I may have also used SecureSettings to keep the screen on while the process is running. You will also need to set the task options to "abort existing task" if it is already running.
I think this is how it worked, but it was a while ago :/
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S6 earlier and I'm getting this constant notification every 5-10 minutes reading something along the lines of “unauthorized actions have been detected” and “restart your device to undo any unauthorized changes” which does nothing. I've tried a complete wipe, updating my phone to the latest software, etc.
I'm almost certain it has something to do with Samsung's stupid "security" application KNOX. It is a hidden app that has no option to remove or disable.
Returning my handset isn't an option, I have the Iron Man Edition, so finding a replacement isn't exactly easy to do.
Currently I've paid the $2 and downloaded Package Disabler for the Play Store. 20 minutes in and that seems to be a temporary fix. I'm not willing to root my phone.
I'm on the same boat and I ****ing hate it.
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy S6 earlier and I'm getting this constant notification every 5-10 minutes reading something along the lines of “unauthorized actions have been detected” and “restart your device to undo any unauthorized changes” which does nothing. I've tried a complete wipe, updating my phone to the latest software, etc.
I'm almost certain it has something to do with Samsung's stupid "security" application KNOX. It is a hidden app that has no option to remove or disable.
Returning my handset isn't an option, I have the Iron Man Edition, so finding a replacement isn't exactly easy to do.
Currently I've paid the $2 and downloaded Package Disabler for the Play Store. 20 minutes in and that seems to be a temporary fix. I'm not willing to root my phone.
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Download Package Disabler from the Play Store. It completely stops those messages. Then we've got to wait for Samsung to fix the problem they've already acknowledged a month ago. Awesome.
From "flagship" to "beautiful Titanic"
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Download Package Disabler from the Play Store. It completely stops those messages. Then we've got to wait for Samsung to fix the problem they've already acknowledged a month ago. Awesome.
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Disable Knox is "shoot the messenger", but does not solve the problem of Samsung S6 Edge. I'm in Spain, Orange has changed me 3 times the S6 Edege for the same problem and now only allowed to send it to repair it in unused condition!. Samsung in Spain does not ensure that launch an update can solve the problem.
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy S6 earlier and I'm getting this constant notification every 5-10 minutes reading something along the lines of “unauthorized actions have been detected” and “restart your device to undo any unauthorized changes” which does nothing. I've tried a complete wipe, updating my phone to the latest software, etc.
I'm almost certain it has something to do with Samsung's stupid "security" application KNOX. It is a hidden app that has no option to remove or disable.
Returning my handset isn't an option, I have the Iron Man Edition, so finding a replacement isn't exactly easy to do.
Currently I've paid the $2 and downloaded Package Disabler for the Play Store. 20 minutes in and that seems to be a temporary fix. I'm not willing to root my phone.
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the problem buged me for a month and the whole month i wasn't even using it but going back and ford to sc and left ny phone there. Now, the only possible fix is update to 5.1.1 as update has been released and that solved my problem. say goodbye to 5.0.2 and update
What I did was to install and app call package disabler and turn off some aplicarían called security log agent and that was all, I don't receive more notifications and I'm not a root user
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Anyone figure out exactly what service causes the second screen to stop working? Since I've got root on MM now I have been tweaking my startup programs.
In lollipop there seems to be a service that if you disable it will stop the second screen from working; re-enabling the services does not restore function of the second screen.
Has anyone identified the specific program on these phones that cause it? I need to know so I dont disable it on accident. Right now I have not touched system services for fear I'll end up with a non-functioning screen again.
So far, I don't know of specific apps. I've been trying to find out for a while before giving up and reset the V10 to get the second screen back in full operation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/screen-t3256541
I just end up removing apps that aren't related to LG. Some AT&T, if not all, were disabled. Didn't have time to just figure out one by one disabling and figuring out which app can kill the second screen.
Do you have xposed installed some people say that it is from xposed
I don't have xposed installed, it was definitely one of the system apps that causes it, the problem is once you disable the app that causes it re-enabling doesn't fix it you have to factory wipe which is why I want to avoid this.
This was when I was under lollipop so I am not 100 positive this behavior happens under rooted marshmallow or not. I'm considering doing a titanium backup and then finding it out myself, was just hoping someone knew.
I've disabled quite a few services and have lucked out and haven't disabled the second screen. I don't intend on freezing or disabling any more apps until someone can identify the app that will do this.
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Anyone figure out exactly what service causes the second screen to stop working? Since I've got root on MM now I have been tweaking my startup programs.
In lollipop there seems to be a service that if you disable it will stop the second screen from working; re-enabling the services does not restore function of the second screen.
Has anyone identified the specific program on these phones that cause it? I need to know so I dont disable it on accident. Right now I have not touched system services for fear I'll end up with a non-functioning screen again.
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I haven't tried, but I would guess the "Second Screen" app would probably be responsible for it. It's in Titanium Backup.
Got a new Galaxy S9+ on ATT.
Went through the normal disabling and unsinstalling apps that I don't think I need, via the stock app manager. Bixby seems to suck, so I don't want that. I basically just want to clean things up, free up RAM, etc... Make it as close to a pure android experience as is realistically possible.
Now I have seen the threads listing all the stuff you can disable through ADB, and I have done that with older phones over the years... The problem that I recall, is when you disable some apps, the phone works fine... then when you want to take an OTA update, it usually fails when it tries to upgrade things that are no longer there, causing more headaches as you have to wipe the phone and restore to stock and then take the update and then set up your phone again, etc...
Is that a concern here? Do we yet know what apps we can disable without causing update issues?
I notice that this phone with 6gb of RAM, has less free RAM than my Essential with 4GB did...
Ok, I found the app on the app store that does most of the debloating for you, for like $3.49 so I got that, seems to work great... so nevermind, I guess? haha
Which app?
Package Disabler Pro,Samsung version. In the play store. It disables like 74 apps and packages rather than deleting them, so you won’t have trouble taking an OTA.
Yeah, Package Disabler Pro is a good job. Worth the money.
Yeah, makes it real simple, and if something breaks or stops working it is really simple and quick to go back and start re-enabling apps or services, one at a time... Takes the risk of breaking something, out of the mix...
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Since your the guru on most things. Wondering if you an direct me/tell me, to a best practice on how to debloat H932. Since there really is no debloated stock rom available. Really need wifi calling so can't go to any of the aosp roms.
Also I moved over to Nova Launcher as you suggested in one of my posts.
Thanks for the help.
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Well, I'm not a guru on most things. But I do try to help. I'm not a dev, so people like @runningnak3d or @seadersn know lots more than me.
Before I answer your question about debloating, for Nova launcher I found an icon pack I like on Google Play. I applied it to "convert" all my icons to that look. I also use the "cube" screen turn, and the reverse parallax view where my background image moves with the screen turns. I also put shadows under my icon labels to give them more a 3D look.
For "debloating", Titanium Backup is best or even Greenify (hear me out) -- depending on your goal. Yes, you can force uninstall any app, even system app. Simply change system app to user app, then uninstall. There's even a "bloatware melter" (or something like that) you can invoke in Titanium Backup. Of course, make very good backup(s) with TWRP.
1) I'm not sure what all "bloatware" (added apps) comes with H932, as the carrier unlocked US998 doesn't have much. Look for social media apps you don't use, maybe media streaming services you don't use. On my US998, I DO use Pandora, I DO use Facebook. I've kept Twitter, but I've never used Instagram and probably never will. However, since it's a system app, removing won't really help me free up space (unless I am misunderstanding that LG uses protected system space). Freezing via Titanium Backup might be better.
But first let's discuss bloatware... Somebody said this in another thread:
Things like Hangouts, Keep, Play Games, Play Books, Play Newstand, Google+, Maps, and a handful of other things I consider bloatware. Just because it's from Google doesn't mean it's wanted and doesn't mean it should be pre-loaded.
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I don't agree with him. I use Hangouts every day. It's my SMS app, as I have Google Voice. I use Maps every day, my wife uses Keep everyday. So, bloatware to everyone is different.
2) What is the goal? Reclaiming RAM or reclaiming space on the phone? "User apps" can be uninstalled to reclaim space, and while you CAN uninstall system apps, (to my knowledge) it doesn't help you reclaim user space. With few exceptions when you install something else, it's going to user space, not protected system space. Emptying out protected system space is decluttering the tool shed when you really want more space in your kitchen.
If you simply want stuff to stop running in the background, it's often better to freeze it in Titanium Backup or "hibernate" it with Greenify. If you freeze it and find out it's NEEDED, you can unfreeze it. Hibernate with Greenify means it won't run unless opened, and when closed will be hibernated again.
In one of the "package disabler" threads, somebody published a list of stuff you can remove from LG V30 and it was horrendously stupid. "Can" does not mean "should" -- unless you want to break basic functionality of the phone or want to remove a lot of the premium features.
This below is a conversation from that "package disabler" thread:
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***WARNING*** Some of these apps are ABSOLUTELY necessary. It would be very useful to go through this list and define what absolutely every one of those items are, as I have already found one that is absolutely essential to the basic functionality of the phone.
After having gone through a LOT of other things trying to determine why my SD card was not working with non-google apps, though google apps had no problems with it, and editing the contents with the computer was not an issue, it finally caught my attention that I had done this debloat process around the time that I started having problems (a few days before - hadn't tried to use the SD card other than to read the files, which has always worked).
After several days of searching different things, uninstalling and reinstalling apps (before I checked the debloat process), and finally going one by one with each debloated app, I finally found the culprit. "External Storage" or "com.android.externalstorage" which lists by the LG app as bloatware. But after I turned it back on, the write access was returned to non-google apps.
*edit* I'm also looking for the culprit causing Android Pay to stop working (specifically, when I go to settings, General, Tap & Pay, settings crashes). I've already reenabled "Android Pay" "com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel" but Settings still crashes when I click on Tap & Pay, so there's some other dependency. And Android Pay is a google service, not related to LG bloatware, so *shouldn't* be just disabled "because" especially when it causes apps to crash just by clicking the wrong button - such as SETTINGS.
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No disrespect to the op who was trying to share something that seems useful (he didn't write this app), BUT...
There's some things in those screenshots that should NOT be disabled. I do question the person who wrote this app. *
In your case for Android Pay, check the NFC stuff. Android Pay depends on NFC working. THAT (NFC) should never never never be disabled. "NFC" is is not an "LG" bloatware -- that is Android system stuff. I made fun of OnePlus for shipping a phone without NFC, and we're disabling it on OUR phones? NFC settings (page 7 of the screenshots in the op). By the way, NFC isn't just for Android Pay, it does other things too.
Some more that seems important...
Hidden Menu (helps you enable more LTE bands, check your OLED display for uniformity, and other things)
Print Spooler (Android service, not LG at all). My wife and I print from our smartphones to our wireless printer all the time. Even if you don't right now, in the future you may and will you really remember you DISABLED this very handy feature?
FM radio. There are some carriers who will NOT allow you to have this (Verizon, cough), and people are forced to SIDELOAD it to get it on their phones and the dev wants you to disable it?
"Qualcomm location" is useful, is related to GPS.
Wi-Fi calling and "W-Fi calling settings". Intertwined with VoLTE. All major carriers have that feature and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
VPN stuff (two different settings in that list). I've used VPN many times, for work and personal reasons. Besides, many non-root ad blockers use VPN to redirect ad requests.
NFC settings (already mentioned, page 7 of the screenshots in the op)
And of course the External Storage service you mentioned which controls functionality of the microSD card storage.
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I am running into a little issue though. I disable everything in in the open and I lose hd calling.
Anyone know which I need to re enable to get volte back [or hd calling)
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Probably the two Wi-Fi calling settings. I know with at least one major U.S. carrier, the VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling are very intertwined.
There's stuff in here that should NOT be disabled if you want your phone to work right.
* Whoever wrote this (now banned) app seems to have very limited world experience with carriers and smartphones.
Disabling external storage? What, you want a flip phone? Then buy a flip phone.
Disabling Wi-Fi calling? Crazy. Most major carriers are offering this, and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
Same thing with print spooler and even VPN above. It's like they are trying to turn an LG phone into a OnePlus phone or worse, where users PRETEND they have a top tier Android but really don't.
Yes, some other things in the 11 page list should be hibernated with Greenify, but not totally disabled. It should not be in a disable list.
And you should definitely NOT remove them with ADB. Be very careful!
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3) There's stuff you do NOT want to touch
In Titanium Backup, all the "system" stuff is in red letters. BE VERY CAREFUL! "360 Image Wallpaper" and "360 Video"? I'll never use that, but on the other hand removing it doesn't really help me get more user space back (unless I'm wrong about protected system space). However, you could freeze it in Titanium Backup if you suspected it was using RAM...
I see "SprintService 8.0.0.0" listed in red on my original US998 V30+ -- which is ironic since Sprint doesn't allow the US998 to be activated on their network. Maybe I could remove that, but again is it really hurting me and is it possibly helping me in some way? There's a lot of stuff interconnected that when you remove you find you haven't made the phone faster, but now have lag (since the phone looks for that stuff instead of moving on).
So, freeze or hibernate. Actually uninstall with caution. Make good TWRP backups.
Anybody else can chime in -- but PLEASE do not recommend any of the package disabler apps. We are discussing debloating ROOTED firmware.
I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
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I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
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you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
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you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
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Yeah, I need to be able to re-enable it if I want to change an LG theme or go back to the default one. Completely removing it probably wouldn't be smart