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Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
I'm in a similar situation. I'm planning to buy from eBay the international version. The sellers there are based in either France or Ireland, they say they give you a year warranty but crucially you have PayPal protection.
I've seen other sites where a minority of phones never turn up or are broken and it's incredibly hard to get the money back.
DeadOne said:
Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
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1 - I don't know for sure but it should be there !
2 - Yes L29 is the version you should look for ! You can get one from here https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NEUF-HUAWEI...234857?hash=item4b2e0e4729:g:41oAAOSwytJaE9rW that's where I got one for my uncle
3 - EMUI is very customised version of Android but with big possibilities for themes so you should be able to make it look as you want
4 - We can't be sure of anything in that domain ^^ I just left Samsung because of giving update slowly... But for sure as the flagship of the brand it should get update faster than others
5 - It'll not. Some may not agree with me but 4gb of Ram is largely enough today !
6 - As I'm not a professionnal I could not tell ^^ but for sure Mate 10 camera is amazing and will only improve with software update improving AI
7 - As I answered on 2, you can get it from dwi on ebay, I've took 2 phones from them (S7 dual sim and Huawei Mate 10)
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
Thanks
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Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
Thanks
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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What for this hicloud?
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What for this hicloud?
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It's backup software
Leechoonhwee said:
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
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Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
Regards,
Safe
Safe0716 said:
Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
Regards,
Safe
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Thanks for the link. I'm not referring to the stock Google camera but the exact one on the pixel phone.
https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www...gle-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/amp/
It is the HDR+ that makes all the difference but sadly Google only enables it for the Pixel phone.
Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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id like to know this too, also:
so which Huawei Mate 10 Pro 128gb version are you supposed to buy? there's L29 on ebay, L09 on clove uk website. handtec uk HM10P128TG, what's the difference between all of these? dual sim on amazon uk 128gb. L29 on wondamobile international version.
eglobal uk CN version. eglobal prices vary for 128gb version, why is that?
sorry so many questions!
essentially i'd want to root and custom rom, is there really dev support for this, I'm coming from samsung and devs have been a lot etc. im over samsung note series lol...
thx
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
Cotinho said:
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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Jay794 said:
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
Jay794 said:
I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
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what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
entwicklun said:
what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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Regarding the model number, no idea maybe use the live chat and ask them lol.
Yes you can change the positions of the on screen buttons
Which one should i get? They're roughly the same price in my country. I need a phone for at least 2-3years.
Well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the OP6.
The SD845 overall performance seems to be better than the Kirin 970, you have the option of 255GB for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the Mate has better cameras, it's a Android Enterprise Recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major OS update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and USB 3.0.
That said OnePlus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go OnePlus.
oneplus updating is spectacular.
I have the 3T and The 5T and both are still updated at least twice a month.
If battery life is the main concern, then the Mate 10 Pro may well be the better bet. I can get consistent 6+ hours of Screen on Time and mostly a full day of hard usage. It's about the only thing keeping me from staying with my M10P though. I got a deal that means I will pay significantly less for it than an upfront OP6 too. It may well be that the Mate 10 Pro will drop further as we get towards the Mate 20 launch in October.
The camera is good, but tends to over do the processing when in auto mode. It does have one of the best Pro modes though if you like to fiddle.
If you do get a Mate 10 Pro, make sure its a C432 model or one of the ones that are regularly updated - my C782 model is still on March 1st security update and I have no confidence that will improve once the Mate 20 is out.
If you have any interest in custom ROMS after that 2 years when you still have perfectly functioning hardware, then OnePlus is almost certainly the way to go - it seems to be one of the few flagships left that has a very active ROM development and Huawei have now shot down any claim to interest in that by withdrawing bootloader unlock.
I 'upgraded' from a OnePlus One running an 8.1 custom ROM that had worked perfectly except for the poor battery life - until it fell in the toilet! (Actually a replacement speaker later and it's still working fine and on a later version of Android that my M10P). There will certainly be options to run the latest software on a OnePlus 6 in 3 years, whereas you will likely be out of luck with the Mate 10 Pro. The camera sucked on the OPO, but I gather it is at least acceptable on the OP6
Software may not be a key concern - actually I can live with EMUI and it has some nice extra 'assistance' touches, but it also has flaky bluetooth in my experience and the over eager power management drives me crazy trying to use things like Tasker.
tl;dr - If you need the battery, go with Mate 10 Pro - if you don't care about the best camera possible, or ever want to go the custom rom route, go with OP6.
One plus 6 hands down, save your self the head ache of Huawei
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
Lilholt1962 said:
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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Mate 10 pro atw
Lilholt1962 said:
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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For a price difference like that Mate 10 pro
didnt use OPO but did use xiaomi mi note 2 phone and now bought mate 10 pro, I also didnt know and have second thoughts about buying OPO 6 or M10pro. so at the end bought M10pro and so far can say the phone is ok but considering rooting installing TWRP and custom roms seems to be little complicated because, after reading xda, bunch of people have bricked they device. now I like to have rooted phone and installed custom rom, lineage os or Aosp extended, but that is not gona happen on this phone so if you like to have rooted phone and have custom roms buy OPO6 definitely, its not everyting in camera. PS emui is quite lagy some times and still needs improvement.
if it matters... the op5t has bluetooth issues with fitbit, not sure if op6 changed but likely issues remain
not sure if fitbit would make a difference, but who knows what other devices may or may not work well. op5t also has issues with car bluetooth, mate10 has none of the issues with the two devices.
luinwethion said:
well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the op6.
The sd845 overall performance seems to be better than the kirin 970, you have the option of 255gb for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the mate has better cameras, it's a android enterprise recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major os update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and usb 3.0.
That said oneplus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go oneplus.
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usb3.1 iirc
I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
I wouldnt go with Huawei if you rely on mods. No real custom rom beside openkirin. No real custom kernel. V4A not working, Dolby Atmos works only on oreo based custom roms. You dont get unlock code from Huawei anymore. You can grab your unlock code via paid services. Alone, when the partition oeminfo gets damaged and your bootloader is locked, your unlock code will not work, erecovery will not work etc DC could fix such bricks but now after the .b145 c432 firmware, they patched it. After B146 you cant downgrade. No real/outdated kernel sources. I recommend this device only for normal conusmers, who dont intend to root this phone. I left Samsung because of adding the knox warranty void string, now leaving Huawei because of the reason I told above.
Oneplus phones have very high SAR values... Be careful
Mate 10 (non-pro) would really last you 2-3yrs because amoled burn (it really is an issue) wouldn't affect you.
I have a mate 10 (non pro) I am trying to sell. Mint condition with the fancy smart flip case. I have a note 9 now so don't need it. Currently has an armorsuit clear skin on it.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/233114506347
mirandam said:
I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
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are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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flow349 said:
are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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Some years later, a reply. YES, I went to OP6 (I still have it working) and later to OP7pro (also still working) and now I'm on OP8 with AICP17.1 (android 12) fully loaded, rooted all working perfectly. Never regretted the change to OnePlus, excellent value for money and excellent support community, very recommendable for custom roms etc. If ever you brick it (happend a few times to me) you get your MSMtool out and bring it back to life in no time.
btw, my mate10pro was still within guarantee, so I sent it back to the seller, took a few months because they tried to recover it, didn't work and I got a full refund.
Ok. I am confused here. I bought a Mi 8 Explorer from eBay, it looked to me like the Mi 8 Explorer does - with the transparent back. I have been looking at ways to root this thing and have not found many guides for the ursa model, I guess as it is quite rare right now. I just ran DevCheck on my phone to see some of the details in preparation for rooting and it tells me that my model is the 'Mi 8 Pro equuleus'.
I saw that the next thread down in this fgorum is someone asking if they can flash one rom to another device. I am wondering, if this had been done to my device would it now show me the name to be equuleus? Could this be what is on my device but it is actually Explorer hardware. Or is it that there is also a transparent version of the Mi 8 Pro.
I went with a Xiaomi phone to try something new but there is way too much confusion for my liking with the similar/region specific devices.
Ursa and Equuleus (and even Dipper) share almost the same hardware with just a few differences.
I never tried to cross flash my Equuleus, but my guess is the Rom is not capable of telling you what the underlying hardware is.
And yes, Ursa and Equuleus probably look exact the same, so you may (or may not, IDK) have got an Equuleus instead of an Ursa.
Try to find out if your device has been bootloader unlocked. If it was not (means it is in locked state), then it has a stock Rom and was never flashed into something else.
I purchased Xiaomi Mi 8 EE which is Chinese version of Xiaomi Mi 8 pro, its simply perfect high performance phone, google installed via gapps apk
I purchased this from Argos, (in UK ) and it is the Equules variant.
Hope that helps
I also purchased mine in the U.K and it looks like it is actually the Explorer edition, the mi 8 transparent edition only comes with a Li-polymer battery, the transparent edition only uses the li-ion battery, they are both 3000ma. The explorer edition comes in 8gb ram and the transparent mi 8 pro is also 8gb ram. I think it's actually the same phone just the explorer is for the Chinese market.
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I purchased this from Argos, (in UK ) and it is the Equules variant.
Hope that helps
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I'm pretty sure though it's actually the explorer edition, if you search gearbest it comes under mi 8 pro explorer edition, uses a Li-poly battery which the mi8 pro transparent titanium doesn't, if you download the phone information app from the play store you will see, I also purchased mine from Argos in the U.K. The transparent titanium mi 8 pro uses a li-ion battery which our does not, they have maybe supplied these as the pro to meet network band specs in Europe.
Hello, I got rid of my MI 8 and got a mi mix 3
So I thought I would give a quick run down of what I've done with my Mi Mix 3 to get it feeling, looking and working just the way I like.
Phone:
- Mi Mix 128GB/8GB RAM CN version beginning of January 2019.
- Flashed Xiaomi EU Rom on (Stable 10.2 - still waiting for stable system dark mode...) - Google Pay working :highfive:
- Nova Launcher and misc. theme/icon stuff
Protection:
- This case in grey.
The jeans/cotton texture on the back doesn't just look great, it leads to MUCH better grip.
- This screen protector
Best application I have ever done, thanks to a clever 4 step peeling process. It's basically invisible.
Accessories (any colour, as long as it's black):
- Samsung Gear S2
- Samsung Galaxy Buds
The Samsung Wear app has matured quite a lot and thanks to it, both devices work like a charm. The Fitness tracking aspects I still need to play with, but not a high prio for me right now.
- Fatboy/Nokia Wireless Charger
If anyone would like screenshots or photos of any of the above, let me know.
Just bought the case on your recommendation that fabric texture looks lovely!
Now to find a good screen protector...
Congrats, i am on latest Xiaomi EU stable and cant use GPay.
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Congrats, i am on latest Xiaomi EU stable and cant use GPay.
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I've found that the steps here with magisk allows google pay to work on the Xiaomi EU rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950
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I've found that the steps here with magisk allows google pay to work on the Xiaomi EU rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950
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This also works and is a bit more automated:
https://github.com/davidramiro/gpay-gms-patch
does that case slide?
Howdy! I'm torn between buying a Poco F1, Mi 9 Lite or Mi 8 Pro, and was checking here to see which of the phones has more support from the community. It seems like the Poco F1 is the winner, BUT... I'm worried in that in two or three ROM threads I checked, it's suggested "you flash the nano Google Apps". Why is that? I mean, in past phones of mine, like the HTC Desire or the OnePlus One, and if I remember correctly, you could repartition your storage to get more space for the system partition. This way you could flash normal-sized Google Apps. Is the Poco F1 - and other phones by Xiaomi - stuck at a specific size, with only the nano version flashable?
And if yes, doesn't that mean that in, say, six months or one year, when those apps will have grown even larger, not even the nano version will fit and you'll have to go even smaller?
I don't want to buy a phone for which new ROMs will feel too restricted, or you'll have to jump through major hoops to flash, one year down the road.
ducklord said:
Howdy! I'm torn between buying a Poco F1, Mi 9 Lite or Mi 8 Pro, and was checking here to see which of the phones has more support from the community. It seems like the Poco F1 is the winner, BUT... I'm worried in that in two or three ROM threads I checked, it's suggested "you flash the nano Google Apps". Why is that? I mean, in past phones of mine, like the HTC Desire or the OnePlus One, and if I remember correctly, you could repartition your storage to get more space for the system partition. This way you could flash normal-sized Google Apps. Is the Poco F1 - and other phones by Xiaomi - stuck at a specific size, with only the nano version flashable?
And if yes, doesn't that mean that in, say, six months or one year, when those apps will have grown even larger, not even the nano version will fit and you'll have to go even smaller?
I don't want to buy a phone for which new ROMs will feel too restricted, or you'll have to jump through major hoops to flash, one year down the road.
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There's no system space restriction whatsoever, neither do you need to repartition the storage.
Nano gapps are suggested mostly because there are some ROMs that encounter bugs with richer gapps
and because opengapps support only up to nano-gapps for Android 10 for now
Ah,I see! Thanks for the clarification! If it's not too much, or against the rules, which one of those phones would you believe would be better in the long run? I've already bought a Mi 9 Lite for my wife, and I love its display, but the Poco (and, up to a point, the Mi 8 Pro) have better CPU/GPU and support here. For some reason, I don't see the Mi 9 Lite "catching up over here" - its forums seem baren compared to the other ones. But, damn, that screen...
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Ah,I see! Thanks for the clarification! If it's not too much, or against the rules, which one of those phones would you believe would be better in the long run? I've already bought a Mi 9 Lite for my wife, and I love its display, but the Poco (and, up to a point, the Mi 8 Pro) have better CPU/GPU and support here. For some reason, I don't see the Mi 9 Lite "catching up over here" - its forums seem baren compared to the other ones. But, damn, that screen...
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I own the poco for about a year and i have bought mi 9T for my wife (same as the lite, but with submersible camera).
Screen difference is great.
The notch is a large disadvantage for the poco and many good ROMs break the deal for me, with how they use the space it leaves.
Sound is a bit better on mi9t
I don't think photos (with gcam) have much difference between the two, except telephoto.
I am very satisfied with the poco but i have to let you know that:
1. If you're not gaming i'd suggest mi9 lite/t
2. I get 7-8 hours SOT without performance restrictions, so if you choose the mi8, i guess that you'll get ~5-6h SOT with the smaller battery and the led (if that helps)
Thanks for the quick and extensive reply!
Although I fancy myself a gamer, I find that, at over 40, I end up mostly using my phone in other ways - notes, calendar, task management, GPS...
I really-really like my emulators, that's why the Poco F1 and Mi 8 Pro look better, on paper, compared to the Mi 9 Lite. But if I'm to be a realist, the Mi 9 Lite's screen will end up being better in the long run for ogling text, that will end up being 90% of what I use the phone for. And I'll be damned if its lower specs aren't enough to run some SNES or Genesis - era games
I only hope there's a hack or something for doubling the size of displayed text. My eyesight's started failing, and the text on its ultra-HD screen, on my wife's phone, is also ultra-small for me. I've read that you can't overdo the DPI settings in the dev options 'cause the whole UI might break.
ducklord said:
I only hope there's a hack or something for doubling the size of displayed text. My eyesight's started failing, and the text on its ultra-HD screen, on my wife's phone, is also ultra-small for me. I've read that you can't overdo the DPI settings in the dev options 'cause the whole UI might break.
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Android 10 has text size reduce/enlarge inbuilt.
Idk if it's there in miui though.
My wife's Mi 9 Lite has an option in MIUI, but I found all the three settings it offered small. That's why I enabled the dev options and directly changed the DPI value. But, AFAIK, I can't overdo that - and don't know what the limits are.
By the way, Mi 9 Lite incoming. Thanks for helping me choose.